Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-29 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hello Paul,

Try going to the purchases tab, then interact with the cell that says 
Installed. You should hear that the installed button is dimmed. Now, try 
hitting Option-Space. This overwrites the behaviour of OS X and forces the app 
to reinstall if it is not already. This also works on applications you have 
already installed and register correctly. When you have hit Option-Space, you 
can stop interacting with the cell and VO-left then right. It should then say 
that the button is now Pause.


Regards,
Nicolai
On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:

 Hello, 
 I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
 installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
 could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
 on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
 menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an An 
 App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all that I 
 can see is a dimmed install button. 
 Is this an Apple bug? 
 Best regards
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-29 Thread Gordon Smith
Sarah

If you're seeing Installed, that means it's on your system somewhere.  Or 
else, it's been on your system somewhere.

Gordon

On 28 Jul 2012, at 19:59, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Yep both of us  are seeing installed  (passed tense) which the apps are not if 
the system is cleanly installed and no migration has taken place. This is an 
odd one. Hope a solution can be found. a I looked and the apps from the app 
store I have are compatible with ml. I checked on the website where it lists 
all of them.

http://roaringapps.com/apps:table
On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Paul
 
 The reasons for that are numbered.  But most likely what you are seeing is 
 Installed, not Install.  In other words, past tense.
 
 Gordon
 
 
 On 28 Jul 2012, at 17:58, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
 installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
 could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
 on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
 menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an An 
 App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all that I 
 can see is a dimmed install button. 
 Is this an Apple bug? 
 Best regards
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello Nicolai, 
Many thanks for the tip that option+Space bar overrides the dimmed installed 
button. that did the trick and I now have successfully re-installed growl from 
the Mac App store. 
Many thanks again and best wishes...

Paul Hopewell
On 29 Jul 2012, at 16:59, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Paul,
 
 Try going to the purchases tab, then interact with the cell that says 
 Installed. You should hear that the installed button is dimmed. Now, try 
 hitting Option-Space. This overwrites the behaviour of OS X and forces the 
 app to reinstall if it is not already. This also works on applications you 
 have already installed and register correctly. When you have hit 
 Option-Space, you can stop interacting with the cell and VO-left then right. 
 It should then say that the button is now Pause.
 
 
 Regards,
 Nicolai
 On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
 installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
 could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
 on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
 menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an 
 An App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all 
 that I can see is a dimmed install button. 
 Is this an Apple bug? 
 Best regards
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-29 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Nic

Typically excellent post.  I'm sure a lot of people will find that invaluable.

Gordon

On 29 Jul 2012, at 16:59, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote:

Try going to the purchases tab, then interact with the cell that says 
Installed. You should hear that the installed button is dimmed. Now, try 
hitting Option-Space. This overwrites the behaviour of OS X and forces the app 
to reinstall if it is not already. This also works on applications you have 
already installed and register correctly. When you have hit Option-Space, you 
can stop interacting with the cell and VO-left then right. It should then say 
that the button is now Pause.

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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
Uh huh.  I am having that same problem as well. In fact most of my install 
buttons are dimmed.  and it says installed, dimmed not install as if the 
app is already installed. is this what you are seeing? I checked on a web page 
the thas a list of compatible apps for ml and the apps I use that are in the 
app store are on said list.  so they should indeed install.

Take care.
On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

 Hello, 
 I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
 installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
 could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
 on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
 menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an An 
 App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all that I 
 can see is a dimmed install button. 
 Is this an Apple bug? 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-28 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello Sarah, 
yes I am indeed seeing exactly what you describe. Looks like an Apple bug here! 
I will try to report it. 

Paul Hopewell
On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:06, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Uh huh.  I am having that same problem as well. In fact most of my install 
 buttons are dimmed.  and it says installed, dimmed not install as if the 
 app is already installed. is this what you are seeing? I checked on a web 
 page the thas a list of compatible apps for ml and the apps I use that are in 
 the app store are on said list.  so they should indeed install.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
 installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
 could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
 on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
 menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an 
 An App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all 
 that I can see is a dimmed install button. 
 Is this an Apple bug? 
 Best regards
 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yep both of us  are seeing installed  (passed tense) which the apps are not if 
the system is cleanly installed and no migration has taken place. This is an 
odd one. Hope a solution can be found. a I looked and the apps from the app 
store I have are compatible with ml. I checked on the website where it lists 
all of them.

http://roaringapps.com/apps:table
On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Paul
 
 The reasons for that are numbered.  But most likely what you are seeing is 
 Installed, not Install.  In other words, past tense.
 
 Gordon
 
 
 On 28 Jul 2012, at 17:58, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
 installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
 could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
 on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
 menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an An 
 App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all that I 
 can see is a dimmed install button. 
 Is this an Apple bug? 
 Best regards
 
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Re: Mountain Lion App store question

2012-07-28 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hi Esther, 
Pressing the dimmed Installed button does nothing. I did try the update 
option for the App store but that said that no updates were available. 

Am I correct in thinking that Lion let you re-install items previously 
purchased from the Mac Ap store? 

I could create a new App Store account as you suggest but that seems over the 
top. instead I have recovered a growl.app from my time machine backup and run 
that. It is growl 1.4 as desired but I don't think it has installed fully as 
the growl icon is not present in system preferences. Looking at the package 
contents for growl.app I found a launch growl.app which let me enter the growl 
preferences. This is all a bit of a hack but hopefully it will do the job. 
Best regards

Paul Hopewell
On 28 Jul 2012, at 21:19, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Paul,
 
 Does clicking on the dimmed button do anything? (Is it possible that the 
 announcement of dimmed doesn't reflect true status?)  What happens when you 
 choose the Updates menu instead?  I'd guess that if an app were purchased, 
 but you somehow deleted it, the Purchased menu entry would be dimmed but if 
 it were updated since it was deleted it would have an active button in the 
 Updates menu.  Since Growl had a version update just last month, this 
 should work. 
 
 Short of that, the only thing I can think of is to create another account 
 that you associate with your iTunes ID for the Mac App Store.  That should 
 count as one of your iTunes account activations, but it should treat this as 
 though you were starting up on a new computer -- everything should be 
 downloadable.  A bit weird if you have to move a downloaded app that way, 
 though.
 
 This does bring up another potential issue about the Mac App Store: like the 
 App Store for your iPhone, apps can come and go.  I believe that the new 
 version 4 of TextExpander won't be offered in the Mac App Store, because it 
 doesn't meet the requirements for sandboxing.  
 
 And I'm also wondering about differences between the version of DVDRemaster 
 Pro sold through the Mac App Store and the ones that were purchased outside 
 the App Store now that version 8 has arrived.  It sounds as though Fairmount, 
 the program that you need to deal with encryption (if you don't have the 
 relevant bit of VLC already on your system), has been spun off to the people 
 who make Mac DVDRipper Pro, so they're letting us get Mac DVDRipper Pro  at a 
 discounted price with a (paid) update to version 8 of DVDRemaster Pro (until 
 July 31).  But this must be different for the folks who bought this through 
 the Mac App Store.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously 
 installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but 
 could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that 
 on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases 
 menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an 
 An App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all 
 that I can see is a dimmed install button. 
 Is this an Apple bug? 
 Best regards
 
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