Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Gilland
hi.

To the best of my knowledge, yes, you should be able to. Obviously, I can't 
guarantee this, things could change down the road, but I see no reason why you 
couldn't.

Chris.




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> On May 29, 2014, at 12:14, Orin  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if those people on that free program will be able to test the next 
> major OS. I’m signed up, but that is really all I can say about it if we are.
> 
> Orin
> orin8...@gmail.com
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
> Skype: orin1112
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No, but Apple does! now have a program which allows you to test OSX for free.
>> 
>> Google it, and you'll see what I mean.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
>> 
>> 
>> Nor can you test OS X with the free Developer account.
>> 
>> Kindest regards
>> 
>> <--- Gordon Smith --->
>> 
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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-29 Thread Orin
I wonder if those people on that free program will be able to test the next 
major OS. I’m signed up, but that is really all I can say about it if we are.

Orin
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On May 29, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

> No, but Apple does! now have a program which allows you to test OSX for free.
> 
> Google it, and you'll see what I mean.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
> 
> 
> Nor can you test OS X with the free Developer account.
> 
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> 
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> On 26 May 2014, at 20:55, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> You can get a  free dev account but you cannot test ios builds. For that you 
> have to pay. I can how ever submit bug reports using the bug tracker on the 
> builds the public has for both ios and osx. The bug tracker does need work 
> how ever, a lot of work. It was fine before apple broke it. bleh!
> On May 26, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Wait.
>> 
>> OK, first you say you're not a dev.  Then, you say you have a free dev 
>> account.  First of all, I'm not even gonna ask! how you managed to pull 
>> getting it free.  Second of all, are you a dev with an account? or not. I'm 
>> now totally lost.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
>> 
>> 
>> Lol. Not yet. It will be released to the devs on keynote day. as it has been 
>> for the past 4 or mor years. Keynote btw is on june 2 2014 and I can't wait! 
>> I will be listenign to that video if streaming is  done again this year on 
>> someone's audio  server, or I might do it myself if my internet decides to 
>> behave.
>> 
>> I'm not a dev, how ever I do follow twitter accounts that let me know when 
>> things are availiable way ahead of time, sometimes weeks in advanced such as 
>> seed builds and stuff. Of corse I can't dl them but it's good to know what 
>> apple's up to.
>> 
>> I do have a  free dev account so I can submit those professional looking bug 
>> reports.
>> On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that. I 
>>> didn't know.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
>>> discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature 
>>> of the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust me. 
>>> I don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I am! a 
>>> dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet. I again 
>>> don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a yes or a 
>>> no answer.  NO more, no less.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>>> Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it for 
>>> some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so was

Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No, but Apple does! now have a program which allows you to test OSX for 
free.


Google it, and you'll see what I mean.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gordon Smith" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Nor can you test OS X with the free Developer account.

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On 26 May 2014, at 20:55, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

You can get a  free dev account but you cannot test ios builds. For that you 
have to pay. I can how ever submit bug reports using the bug tracker on the 
builds the public has for both ios and osx. The bug tracker does need work 
how ever, a lot of work. It was fine before apple broke it. bleh!
On May 26, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:



Wait.

OK, first you say you're not a dev.  Then, you say you have a free dev 
account.  First of all, I'm not even gonna ask! how you managed to pull 
getting it free.  Second of all, are you a dev with an account? or not. 
I'm now totally lost.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Lol. Not yet. It will be released to the devs on keynote day. as it has 
been for the past 4 or mor years. Keynote btw is on june 2 2014 and I 
can't wait! I will be listenign to that video if streaming is  done again 
this year on someone's audio  server, or I might do it myself if my 
internet decides to behave.


I'm not a dev, how ever I do follow twitter accounts that let me know when 
things are availiable way ahead of time, sometimes weeks in advanced such 
as seed builds and stuff. Of corse I can't dl them but it's good to know 
what apple's up to.


I do have a  free dev account so I can submit those professional looking 
bug reports.
On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that. 
I didn't know.



Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature 
of the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust 
me. I don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I 
am! a dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet. 
I again don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a 
yes or a no answer.  NO more, no less.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Chris

In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it 
for some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of 
it being released.  But that’s good.


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On 26 May 2014, at 14:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


10.9.3 has been released to non devs, so I see no reason why it would be 
nonpublic.


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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-29 Thread Gordon Smith
Nor can you test OS X with the free Developer account.

Kindest regards

<--- Gordon Smith --->


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On 26 May 2014, at 20:55, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

You can get a  free dev account but you cannot test ios builds. For that you 
have to pay. I can how ever submit bug reports using the bug tracker on the 
builds the public has for both ios and osx. The bug tracker does need work how 
ever, a lot of work. It was fine before apple broke it. bleh!
On May 26, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

> Wait.
> 
> OK, first you say you're not a dev.  Then, you say you have a free dev 
> account.  First of all, I'm not even gonna ask! how you managed to pull 
> getting it free.  Second of all, are you a dev with an account? or not.  I'm 
> now totally lost.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
> 
> 
> Lol. Not yet. It will be released to the devs on keynote day. as it has been 
> for the past 4 or mor years. Keynote btw is on june 2 2014 and I can't wait! 
> I will be listenign to that video if streaming is  done again this year on 
> someone's audio  server, or I might do it myself if my internet decides to 
> behave.
> 
> I'm not a dev, how ever I do follow twitter accounts that let me know when 
> things are availiable way ahead of time, sometimes weeks in advanced such as 
> seed builds and stuff. Of corse I can't dl them but it's good to know what 
> apple's up to.
> 
> I do have a  free dev account so I can submit those professional looking bug 
> reports.
> On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that.  I 
>> didn't know.
>> 
>> 
>> Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
>> discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature of 
>> the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust me. I 
>> don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I am! a 
>> dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet.  I again 
>> don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a yes or a no 
>> answer.  NO more, no less.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>> Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it for 
>> some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of it being 
>> released.  But that’s good.
>> 
>> Kindest regards
>> 
>> <--- Gordon Smith --->
>> 
>> 
>> Information Technology Accessibility Consultant;
>> Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, 
>> Plus I.T Help & Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired 
>> Department at:
>> Sunnyside Academy
>> Manorfarm Way
>> Colby Newham
>> Middlesbrough
>> Cleveland
>> 
>> 
>> Telephone:
>> 
>> United Kingdom:  Free Phone:
>> 0800 8620538
>> 
>> United Kingdom Geographic:
>> 01133 280547
>> Mobile:
>> +44 7907 823971
>> 
>> Europe and other non-specified:
>> +44 1642 688095
>> 
>> United States Of America And Canada:
>> +1 646 9151493
>> Or:
>> +1 209 436 9443
>> 
>> Australasia:
>> +61 38 8205930
>> Or:
>> +61 39 0284505
>> 
>> Fax:
>> +44 1642 365123
>> 
>> Follow Us On Twitter:
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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Aa.  I see what you're doing.  OK.  Sorry about that confusion.  Now I'm on 
the same page.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


You can get a  free dev account but you cannot test ios builds. For that you 
have to pay. I can how ever submit bug reports using the bug tracker on the 
builds the public has for both ios and osx. The bug tracker does need work 
how ever, a lot of work. It was fine before apple broke it. bleh!
On May 26, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:



Wait.

OK, first you say you're not a dev.  Then, you say you have a free dev 
account.  First of all, I'm not even gonna ask! how you managed to pull 
getting it free.  Second of all, are you a dev with an account? or not. 
I'm now totally lost.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Lol. Not yet. It will be released to the devs on keynote day. as it has 
been for the past 4 or mor years. Keynote btw is on june 2 2014 and I 
can't wait! I will be listenign to that video if streaming is  done again 
this year on someone's audio  server, or I might do it myself if my 
internet decides to behave.


I'm not a dev, how ever I do follow twitter accounts that let me know when 
things are availiable way ahead of time, sometimes weeks in advanced such 
as seed builds and stuff. Of corse I can't dl them but it's good to know 
what apple's up to.


I do have a  free dev account so I can submit those professional looking 
bug reports.
On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that. 
I didn't know.



Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature 
of the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust 
me. I don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I 
am! a dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet. 
I again don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a 
yes or a no answer.  NO more, no less.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Chris

In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it 
for some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of 
it being released.  But that’s good.


Kindest regards

<--- Gordon Smith --->


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Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, 
Plus I.T Help & Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually 
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On 26 May 2014, at 14:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


10.9.3 has been released to non devs, so I see no reason why it would be 
nonpublic.


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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You can get a  free dev account but you cannot test ios builds. For that you 
have to pay. I can how ever submit bug reports using the bug tracker on the 
builds the public has for both ios and osx. The bug tracker does need work how 
ever, a lot of work. It was fine before apple broke it. bleh!
On May 26, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

> Wait.
> 
> OK, first you say you're not a dev.  Then, you say you have a free dev 
> account.  First of all, I'm not even gonna ask! how you managed to pull 
> getting it free.  Second of all, are you a dev with an account? or not.  I'm 
> now totally lost.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
> 
> 
> Lol. Not yet. It will be released to the devs on keynote day. as it has been 
> for the past 4 or mor years. Keynote btw is on june 2 2014 and I can't wait! 
> I will be listenign to that video if streaming is  done again this year on 
> someone's audio  server, or I might do it myself if my internet decides to 
> behave.
> 
> I'm not a dev, how ever I do follow twitter accounts that let me know when 
> things are availiable way ahead of time, sometimes weeks in advanced such as 
> seed builds and stuff. Of corse I can't dl them but it's good to know what 
> apple's up to.
> 
> I do have a  free dev account so I can submit those professional looking bug 
> reports.
> On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that.  I 
>> didn't know.
>> 
>> 
>> Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
>> discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature of 
>> the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust me. I 
>> don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I am! a 
>> dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet.  I again 
>> don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a yes or a no 
>> answer.  NO more, no less.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>> Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it for 
>> some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of it being 
>> released.  But that’s good.
>> 
>> Kindest regards
>> 
>> <--- Gordon Smith --->
>> 
>> 
>> Information Technology Accessibility Consultant;
>> Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, 
>> Plus I.T Help & Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired 
>> Department at:
>> Sunnyside Academy
>> Manorfarm Way
>> Colby Newham
>> Middlesbrough
>> Cleveland
>> 
>> 
>> Telephone:
>> 
>> United Kingdom:  Free Phone:
>> 0800 8620538
>> 
>> United Kingdom Geographic:
>> 01133 280547
>> Mobile:
>> +44 7907 823971
>> 
>> Europe and other non-specified:
>> +44 1642 688095
>> 
>> United States Of America And Canada:
>> +1 646 9151493
>> Or:
>> +1 209 436 9443
>> 
>> Australasia:
>> +61 38 8205930
>> Or:
>> +61 39 0284505
>> 
>> Fax:
>> +44 1642 365123
>> 
>> Follow Us On Twitter:
>> <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess>
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>> 
>> On 26 May 2014, at 14:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 10.9.3 has been released to non devs, so I see no reason why it would be 
>> nonpublic.
>> 
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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Wait.

OK, first you say you're not a dev.  Then, you say you have a free dev 
account.  First of all, I'm not even gonna ask! how you managed to pull 
getting it free.  Second of all, are you a dev with an account? or not.  I'm 
now totally lost.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Lol. Not yet. It will be released to the devs on keynote day. as it has been 
for the past 4 or mor years. Keynote btw is on june 2 2014 and I can't wait! 
I will be listenign to that video if streaming is  done again this year on 
someone's audio  server, or I might do it myself if my internet decides to 
behave.


I'm not a dev, how ever I do follow twitter accounts that let me know when 
things are availiable way ahead of time, sometimes weeks in advanced such as 
seed builds and stuff. Of corse I can't dl them but it's good to know what 
apple's up to.


I do have a  free dev account so I can submit those professional looking bug 
reports.
On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that.  I 
didn't know.



Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature 
of the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust me. 
I don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I am! 
a dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet.  I 
again don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a yes 
or a no answer.  NO more, no less.


Chris.

- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Smith" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Chris

In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it 
for some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of it 
being released.  But that’s good.


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10.9.3 has been released to non devs, so I see no reason why it would be 
nonpublic.


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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Lol. Not yet. It will be released to the devs on keynote day. as it has been 
for the past 4 or mor years. Keynote btw is on june 2 2014 and I can't wait! I 
will be listenign to that video if streaming is  done again this year on 
someone's audio  server, or I might do it myself if my internet decides to 
behave.

I'm not a dev, how ever I do follow twitter accounts that let me know when 
things are availiable way ahead of time, sometimes weeks in advanced such as 
seed builds and stuff. Of corse I can't dl them but it's good to know what 
apple's up to.

I do have a  free dev account so I can submit those professional looking bug 
reports.
On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

> Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that.  I 
> didn't know.
> 
> 
> Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
> discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature of 
> the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust me.  I 
> don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I am! a 
> dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet.  I again 
> don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a yes or a no 
> answer.  NO more, no less.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Gordon Smith" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
> Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it for 
> some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of it being 
> released.  But that’s good.
> 
> Kindest regards
> 
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> On 26 May 2014, at 14:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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> 
> 10.9.3 has been released to non devs, so I see no reason why it would be 
> nonpublic.
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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh, are you a dev?  OK, yeah, that would explain it.  Sorry about that.  I 
didn't know.



Speaking of dev things, I totally get it would be off limits on list to 
discuss any factors about it, and please don't get confused of the nature of 
the following question.  I'm not asking anyone to breech NDA, trust me.  I 
don't wish to know any details.  I can figure that out myself, as I am! a 
dev, but I'm curious if I O S 8 has been released to us devs yet.  I again 
don't need any details.  Don't do that!  I'm simply asking for a yes or a no 
answer.  NO more, no less.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gordon Smith" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
Subject: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!


Chris

In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it for 
some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of it being 
released.  But that’s good.


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10.9.3 has been released to non devs, so I see no reason why it would be 
nonpublic.


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Re: OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It's been out since about 2 weeks ago.  I downloaded it and it runs lightning 
fast on this machine.  I follow many many twitter acocunts that let me know 
ahead of time when things are to be in the public so I knew this was coming.

Take care.
On May 26, 2014, at 8:03 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Chris
> 
> In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it for 
> some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of it being 
> released.  But that’s good.
> 
> Kindest regards
> 
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> 10.9.3 has been released to non devs, so I see no reason why it would be 
> nonpublic.
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OS X 10.9.3 Now Public!

2014-05-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Chris

In that instance, of course it’s public. :)  But having been running it for 
some time, I didn’t see a recent software update so wasn’t aware of it being 
released.  But that’s good.

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