Re: Other possible cures for Dónal's muted speaker issue - was My temperamental iPhone!
As I have not had this problem for a while, my memory may be incorrect. But, it seems that anything I did, connecting headphones, hitting the sleep/wake/lock button, swiping or tapping. Sometimes the headphones would work, but the phone's volume without the headphone was too low. Back when this first happened, I took it to a store in Austin, Texas, where they didn't know much about VO. It so happens that I had screen curtain on, and they thought the whole phone was broken smile. - Original Message - From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Other possible cures for Dónal's muted speaker issue - was My temperamental iPhone! Greetings Dónal, Diane and list, Another solution is to perform actions/gestures that should cause VO to emit speech and press volume up while its presumably happening. EG, pressing the power button normally causes VO to announce the time. Without VO though, I have no way of ascertaining whether I just locked my screen or unlocked it. If I use the two finger flick up gesture, and press volume up, usually by the time vo finishes announcing the time, date, notifications, and slide to unlock/take picture admonishments, its at full volume. If not, then I probably locked it, and a repeat of the sequence of pressing power, followed by the two finger flick up and volume up will do the trick. Usually when this happens, the head phone volume is unaffected, so if you're not comfortable acting on faith, you can put on the headphones, locate a volume control, and then remove the headphones before manipulating the volume slider via the flick up gesture. Lastly, there is a very intermittent issue that likely still exists with current IOS devices; I had it happen once a couple years ago on my 3GS. What happens is that a speck of dust gets into the headphone jack which causes the microswitch to remain open, fooling the hardware into believing that the headphone jack is engaged and there bye route sounds accordingly. In this scenario, the solutions suggested by Diane and me are ineffective. Instead, one can probably dislodge the item with a little canned air, or by inserting and extracting headphones into the jack several times quickly. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Diane Bomar To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: My temperamental iPhone! This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground. There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not speaking. Actually, I had not thought about this problem for a while, but have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software upgrade fixed it. Glad to know you got it working,for now. Diane - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: My temperamental iPhone! Hi all, this is very bizarre. Here are several scenarios: 1. voiceover is turned on. no sound whatsoever from the phone. No voice, no background beeps; nothing. 2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly. 3. voiceover is turned off. Phone behaves perfectly. I am confused. very very very confused! help! cheers :) Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac
Other possible cures for Dónal's muted speaker issue - was My temperamental iPhone!
Greetings Dónal, Diane and list, Another solution is to perform actions/gestures that should cause VO to emit speech and press volume up while its presumably happening. EG, pressing the power button normally causes VO to announce the time. Without VO though, I have no way of ascertaining whether I just locked my screen or unlocked it. If I use the two finger flick up gesture, and press volume up, usually by the time vo finishes announcing the time, date, notifications, and slide to unlock/take picture admonishments, its at full volume. If not, then I probably locked it, and a repeat of the sequence of pressing power, followed by the two finger flick up and volume up will do the trick. Usually when this happens, the head phone volume is unaffected, so if you're not comfortable acting on faith, you can put on the headphones, locate a volume control, and then remove the headphones before manipulating the volume slider via the flick up gesture. Lastly, there is a very intermittent issue that likely still exists with current IOS devices; I had it happen once a couple years ago on my 3GS. What happens is that a speck of dust gets into the headphone jack which causes the microswitch to remain open, fooling the hardware into believing that the headphone jack is engaged and there bye route sounds accordingly. In this scenario, the solutions suggested by Diane and me are ineffective. Instead, one can probably dislodge the item with a little canned air, or by inserting and extracting headphones into the jack several times quickly. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Diane Bomar To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: My temperamental iPhone! This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground. There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not speaking. Actually, I had not thought about this problem for a while, but have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software upgrade fixed it. Glad to know you got it working,for now. Diane - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: My temperamental iPhone! Hi all, this is very bizarre. Here are several scenarios: 1. voiceover is turned on. no sound whatsoever from the phone. No voice, no background beeps; nothing. 2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly. 3. voiceover is turned off. Phone behaves perfectly. I am confused. very very very confused! help! cheers :) Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at
Re: Other possible cures for Dónal's muted speaker issue - was My temperamental iPhone!
Hi Jeff, Love the suggestion of the two-fingered swipe. I'd tried a flick all right but to no avail which is why I posted. The headphone issue isn't one I've seen so thanks for that. Dónal On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:01, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Dónal, Diane and list, Another solution is to perform actions/gestures that should cause VO to emit speech and press volume up while its presumably happening. EG, pressing the power button normally causes VO to announce the time. Without VO though, I have no way of ascertaining whether I just locked my screen or unlocked it. If I use the two finger flick up gesture, and press volume up, usually by the time vo finishes announcing the time, date, notifications, and slide to unlock/take picture admonishments, its at full volume. If not, then I probably locked it, and a repeat of the sequence of pressing power, followed by the two finger flick up and volume up will do the trick. Usually when this happens, the head phone volume is unaffected, so if you're not comfortable acting on faith, you can put on the headphones, locate a volume control, and then remove the headphones before manipulating the volume slider via the flick up gesture. Lastly, there is a very intermittent issue that likely still exists with current IOS devices; I had it happen once a couple years ago on my 3GS. What happens is that a speck of dust gets into the headphone jack which causes the microswitch to remain open, fooling the hardware into believing that the headphone jack is engaged and there bye route sounds accordingly. In this scenario, the solutions suggested by Diane and me are ineffective. Instead, one can probably dislodge the item with a little canned air, or by inserting and extracting headphones into the jack several times quickly. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Diane Bomar To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: My temperamental iPhone! This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground. There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not speaking. Actually, I had not thought about this problem for a while, but have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software upgrade fixed it. Glad to know you got it working,for now. Diane - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: My temperamental iPhone! Hi all, this is very bizarre. Here are several scenarios: 1. voiceover is turned on. no sound whatsoever from the phone. No voice, no background beeps; nothing. 2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly. 3. voiceover is turned off. Phone behaves perfectly. I am confused. very very very confused! help! cheers :) Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
