Re: Protools 10

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Hi Chris,

No you misunderstand: I’ve been trawling the web and from my reading it seemed 
that the best setup for Protools 10 was under Lion. It was nothing you had 
intimated in your mail.

Dónal
On 12 Aug 2013, at 01:02, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> Firstly, I don't know where you got the impression that PT 10 wouldn't work 
> on Mountain Lion.  It works, but just has some accessibility issues.  I'm a 
> very regular ProTools user, as I use it every day practically with me being a 
> local professional musician.  You're correct that there are issues with some 
> of the PT 11 plugins, although I don't exactly know in what way, being I've 
> not updated.  I'm still running ProTools 10 and am perfectly happy with it.  
> Granted, my main production machine is running Snowleopard, as Lion had a 
> few, though not many, accessibility issues, but then once we got to Mountain 
> Lion, believe me, in many ways, certain things became an baunified mess!  For 
> one thing, none of the counters read any longer, a lot of your configuration 
> values don't read any more such as obtaining your session's tempo, etc.  For 
> someone like me who's a die hard audio engineer, these are things I cannot 
> live without.  I guess it really depends on your workflow. If you don't think 
> you're going to need access to those things, then ok, but for me, that's 
> enough of a deal breaker, where until Avid gets their stuff more together, 
> and I truely see a change, I'm not taking the plunge to V11, case closed.  
> But ultimately, just to clarify, I didn't say PT 10 nor 11 worked well on 
> Mountain Lion, but yes, they will work in general, and... lquite well... if 
> you're either sighted, or low vision and can use screen magnification.  With 
> Voiceover alone though, it's very cut and dry touch and go.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Protools 10
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I was under the impression that PT10 couldn't run under Mountain lion.  Is 
> this the case?  Also I thought that many of the PT11 plugins weren't 
> accessible.
> 
> Thanks for the info,
> 
> Dónal
> On 11 Aug 2013, at 16:30, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
> 
>> You can run ProTools on Mountain Lion, don't get me wrong.  It's just that 
>> there are many accessibility issues that you'll probably encounter along the 
>> way.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: Protools 10
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers for that Chris.  Next step now is to try and go back from Mountain 
>> Lion to Lion on one of my machines just to run this damn thing.  i have an 
>> iMac with two HDs so I think I'll try and duel boot for now.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 11 Aug 2013, at 12:47, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
>> 
>>> For now, if you buy PT 11, it will come with PT 10 as well.  The simple 
>>> reason is because there are some plugins which are not yet compatible with 
>>> ProTools 11.  Yes, you can run version 10 and 11 along side each other. 
>>> Quite honestly, I think that Avid is doing a very sloppy job of 
>>> development, especially doing it this way, but whatever.  It's obvious my 
>>> voice isn't being heard, and though Slau Haliton has spoken with them many 
>>> times about accessibility, etc. and they promise things to get better, 
>>> don't get me started on this rant rave or we'll be here all day, but 
>>> frankly, I kind of wonder about them... them being Avid... at times.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:02 AM
>>> Subject: Protools 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Morning folks,
>>> 
>>> Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase a 
>>> copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link on 
>>> the product website.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Dónal
>>> Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
>>> School of Computing,
>>> Dublin City University,
>>> Glasnevin,
>>> Dublin 9, Ireland
>>> Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929
>>

Re: Protools 10

[Gordon Smith]

Another thing I notice is, at least for overseas users, it does not seem 
possible to buy the product digitally.  By that, I mean that we have to have a 
boxed version shipped which is a total pain.

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On 11 Aug 2013, at 12:47, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> For now, if you buy PT 11, it will come with PT 10 as well.  The simple 
> reason is because there are some plugins which are not yet compatible with 
> ProTools 11.  Yes, you can run version 10 and 11 along side each other. Quite 
> honestly, I think that Avid is doing a very sloppy job of development, 
> especially doing it this way, but whatever.  It's obvious my voice isn't 
> being heard, and though Slau Haliton has spoken with them many times about 
> accessibility, etc. and they promise things to get better, don't get me 
> started on this rant rave or we'll be here all day, but frankly, I kind of 
> wonder about them... them being Avid... at times.

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Re: Protools 10

[Chris Gilland]

Firstly, I don't know where you got the impression that PT 10 wouldn't work 
on Mountain Lion.  It works, but just has some accessibility issues.  I'm a 
very regular ProTools user, as I use it every day practically with me being 
a local professional musician.  You're correct that there are issues with 
some of the PT 11 plugins, although I don't exactly know in what way, being 
I've not updated.  I'm still running ProTools 10 and am perfectly happy with 
it.  Granted, my main production machine is running Snowleopard, as Lion had 
a few, though not many, accessibility issues, but then once we got to 
Mountain Lion, believe me, in many ways, certain things became an baunified 
mess!  For one thing, none of the counters read any longer, a lot of your 
configuration values don't read any more such as obtaining your session's 
tempo, etc.  For someone like me who's a die hard audio engineer, these are 
things I cannot live without.  I guess it really depends on your workflow. 
If you don't think you're going to need access to those things, then ok, but 
for me, that's enough of a deal breaker, where until Avid gets their stuff 
more together, and I truely see a change, I'm not taking the plunge to V11, 
case closed.  But ultimately, just to clarify, I didn't say PT 10 nor 11 
worked well on Mountain Lion, but yes, they will work in general, and... 
lquite well... if you're either sighted, or low vision and can use screen 
magnification.  With Voiceover alone though, it's very cut and dry touch and 
go.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Protools 10


Hi Chris,

I was under the impression that PT10 couldn't run under Mountain lion.  Is 
this the case?  Also I thought that many of the PT11 plugins weren't 
accessible.


Thanks for the info,

Dónal
On 11 Aug 2013, at 16:30, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

You can run ProTools on Mountain Lion, don't get me wrong.  It's just that 
there are many accessibility issues that you'll probably encounter along 
the way.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Protools 10


Cheers for that Chris.  Next step now is to try and go back from Mountain 
Lion to Lion on one of my machines just to run this damn thing.  i have an 
iMac with two HDs so I think I'll try and duel boot for now.


Dónal
On 11 Aug 2013, at 12:47, "Chris Gilland"  
wrote:


For now, if you buy PT 11, it will come with PT 10 as well.  The simple 
reason is because there are some plugins which are not yet compatible 
with ProTools 11.  Yes, you can run version 10 and 11 along side each 
other. Quite honestly, I think that Avid is doing a very sloppy job of 
development, especially doing it this way, but whatever.  It's obvious my 
voice isn't being heard, and though Slau Haliton has spoken with them 
many times about accessibility, etc. and they promise things to get 
better, don't get me started on this rant rave or we'll be here all day, 
but frankly, I kind of wonder about them... them being Avid... at times.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:02 AM
Subject: Protools 10


Morning folks,

Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase 
a copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link 
on the product website.


Cheers,

Dónal
Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
School of Computing,
Dublin City University,
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Re: Protools 10

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Hi Chris,

I was under the impression that PT10 couldn't run under Mountain lion.  Is this 
the case?  Also I thought that many of the PT11 plugins weren't accessible.

Thanks for the info,

Dónal
On 11 Aug 2013, at 16:30, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> You can run ProTools on Mountain Lion, don't get me wrong.  It's just that 
> there are many accessibility issues that you'll probably encounter along the 
> way.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Protools 10
> 
> 
> Cheers for that Chris.  Next step now is to try and go back from Mountain 
> Lion to Lion on one of my machines just to run this damn thing.  i have an 
> iMac with two HDs so I think I'll try and duel boot for now.
> 
> Dónal
> On 11 Aug 2013, at 12:47, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
> 
>> For now, if you buy PT 11, it will come with PT 10 as well.  The simple 
>> reason is because there are some plugins which are not yet compatible with 
>> ProTools 11.  Yes, you can run version 10 and 11 along side each other. 
>> Quite honestly, I think that Avid is doing a very sloppy job of development, 
>> especially doing it this way, but whatever.  It's obvious my voice isn't 
>> being heard, and though Slau Haliton has spoken with them many times about 
>> accessibility, etc. and they promise things to get better, don't get me 
>> started on this rant rave or we'll be here all day, but frankly, I kind of 
>> wonder about them... them being Avid... at times.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:02 AM
>> Subject: Protools 10
>> 
>> 
>> Morning folks,
>> 
>> Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase a 
>> copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link on 
>> the product website.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Dónal
>> Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
>> School of Computing,
>> Dublin City University,
>> Glasnevin,
>> Dublin 9, Ireland
>> Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929
>> fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442
>> email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie
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Re: Protools 10

[Chris Gilland]

You can run ProTools on Mountain Lion, don't get me wrong.  It's just that 
there are many accessibility issues that you'll probably encounter along the 
way.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Protools 10


Cheers for that Chris.  Next step now is to try and go back from Mountain 
Lion to Lion on one of my machines just to run this damn thing.  i have an 
iMac with two HDs so I think I'll try and duel boot for now.


Dónal
On 11 Aug 2013, at 12:47, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

For now, if you buy PT 11, it will come with PT 10 as well.  The simple 
reason is because there are some plugins which are not yet compatible with 
ProTools 11.  Yes, you can run version 10 and 11 along side each other. 
Quite honestly, I think that Avid is doing a very sloppy job of 
development, especially doing it this way, but whatever.  It's obvious my 
voice isn't being heard, and though Slau Haliton has spoken with them many 
times about accessibility, etc. and they promise things to get better, 
don't get me started on this rant rave or we'll be here all day, but 
frankly, I kind of wonder about them... them being Avid... at times.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:02 AM
Subject: Protools 10


Morning folks,

Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase 
a copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link 
on the product website.


Cheers,

Dónal
Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
School of Computing,
Dublin City University,
Glasnevin,
Dublin 9, Ireland
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Re: Protools 10

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Cheers for that Chris.  Next step now is to try and go back from Mountain Lion 
to Lion on one of my machines just to run this damn thing.  i have an iMac with 
two HDs so I think I'll try and duel boot for now.

Dónal
On 11 Aug 2013, at 12:47, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> For now, if you buy PT 11, it will come with PT 10 as well.  The simple 
> reason is because there are some plugins which are not yet compatible with 
> ProTools 11.  Yes, you can run version 10 and 11 along side each other. Quite 
> honestly, I think that Avid is doing a very sloppy job of development, 
> especially doing it this way, but whatever.  It's obvious my voice isn't 
> being heard, and though Slau Haliton has spoken with them many times about 
> accessibility, etc. and they promise things to get better, don't get me 
> started on this rant rave or we'll be here all day, but frankly, I kind of 
> wonder about them... them being Avid... at times.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:02 AM
> Subject: Protools 10
> 
> 
> Morning folks,
> 
> Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase a 
> copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link on 
> the product website.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dónal
> Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
> School of Computing,
> Dublin City University,
> Glasnevin,
> Dublin 9, Ireland
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Re: Protools 10

[Chris Gilland]

For now, if you buy PT 11, it will come with PT 10 as well.  The simple 
reason is because there are some plugins which are not yet compatible with 
ProTools 11.  Yes, you can run version 10 and 11 along side each other. 
Quite honestly, I think that Avid is doing a very sloppy job of development, 
especially doing it this way, but whatever.  It's obvious my voice isn't 
being heard, and though Slau Haliton has spoken with them many times about 
accessibility, etc. and they promise things to get better, don't get me 
started on this rant rave or we'll be here all day, but frankly, I kind of 
wonder about them... them being Avid... at times.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:02 AM
Subject: Protools 10


Morning folks,

Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase a 
copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link on 
the product website.


Cheers,

Dónal
Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
School of Computing,
Dublin City University,
Glasnevin,
Dublin 9, Ireland
Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929
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Re: Protools 10

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Not sure they ship internationally but thanks John.
On 10 Aug 2013, at 12:46, John Gunn  wrote:

> Go to tigerdirect.com
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
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>> Morning folks,
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>> Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase a 
>> copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link on 
>> the product website.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
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Re: Protools 10

[John Gunn]

Go to tigerdirect.com


On Aug 10, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick  
wrote:

> Morning folks,
> 
> Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase a 
> copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link on 
> the product website.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dónal
> Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
> School of Computing, 
> Dublin City University,
> Glasnevin, 
> Dublin 9, Ireland
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Protools 10

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Morning folks,

Very quick question.  Does anyone know whether it is possible to purchase a 
copy of Protools 10 now that they've gone to 11?  I'm not seeing a link on the 
product website.

Cheers,

Dónal
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