Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Sarah k Alawami]

I put alisus on my desk top personally. I find things quicker then~/google 
drive/uploads/file anme. I just hit cmd shift d, then up then cmd O. and I"m 
there. I do clean out my desk top and have all of my old stuff in a folder 
called ~/documents/desktoday/folder date

Take care. 
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> It’s best to use the Dock for aliases. Personally, I don’t bother with them 
> as it’s so easy to locate any files or folders I want by using the first 
> letter or two of the name. I’m really pretty organised when it comes to 
> storing files.
> 
> Also, don’t forget that it’s easy to reorganise the Dock so that your items 
> are in alphabetical order. Just use Cmd-Option-Right or Left Arrow and you’ll 
> hear where you’re putting the item you’re moving.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Eleanor Martha Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Final question here then, would I be wrong to make Aliases on the desktop? 
>> is it best to put them on the dock or just leave in the documents folder?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I appreciated that Ann but then one would not have files on the dark rather one 
might have folders.



> On 4 Nov 2014, at 12:15, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> It’s best to use the Dock for aliases. Personally, I don’t bother with them 
> as it’s so easy to locate any files or folders I want by using the first 
> letter or two of the name. I’m really pretty organised when it comes to 
> storing files.
> 
> Also, don’t forget that it’s easy to reorganise the Dock so that your items 
> are in alphabetical order. Just use Cmd-Option-Right or Left Arrow and you’ll 
> hear where you’re putting the item you’re moving.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Eleanor Martha Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Final question here then, would I be wrong to make Aliases on the desktop? 
>> is it best to put them on the dock or just leave in the documents folder?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Anne Robertson]

It’s best to use the Dock for aliases. Personally, I don’t bother with them as 
it’s so easy to locate any files or folders I want by using the first letter or 
two of the name. I’m really pretty organised when it comes to storing files.

Also, don’t forget that it’s easy to reorganise the Dock so that your items are 
in alphabetical order. Just use Cmd-Option-Right or Left Arrow and you’ll hear 
where you’re putting the item you’re moving.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 4 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Eleanor Martha Burke  
> wrote:
> 
>  Final question here then, would I be wrong to make Aliases on the desktop? 
> is it best to put them on the dock or just leave in the documents folder?

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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Ah thanks Ann, then I was getting desktop and finder mixed up.  Final 
question here then, would I be wrong to make Aliases on the desktop? is it 
best to put them on the dock or just leave in the documents folder?


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?



Hello Eleanor,

The Finder is the application that manages the storage of files and 
folders whatever the application that created them.


On a Mac, it is a bad idea to put lots of icons on the desktop as they all 
get loaded into memory when the computer is booted and can therefore slow 
down the machine.


The Dock contains aliases to applications which are in fact in the 
Applications folder. It can also contain pointers to folders stored 
anywhere on the Mac.


Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Nov 2014, at 10:24, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


I was under the impression as a Mac newbee that people did not fill up 
the Finder with icons but went to the Doc or to the Documents folder. 
Now am I missing out on something?  Maybe you are referring to the 
Documents folders as Finder folders, please enlighten me!


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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eleanor,

The Finder is the application that manages the storage of files and folders 
whatever the application that created them.

On a Mac, it is a bad idea to put lots of icons on the desktop as they all get 
loaded into memory when the computer is booted and can therefore slow down the 
machine.

The Dock contains aliases to applications which are in fact in the Applications 
folder. It can also contain pointers to folders stored anywhere on the Mac.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 4 Nov 2014, at 10:24, Eleanor Martha Burke  
> wrote:
> 
> I was under the impression as a Mac newbee that people did not fill up the 
> Finder with icons but went to the Doc or to the Documents folder.  Now am I 
> missing out on something?  Maybe you are referring to the Documents folders 
> as Finder folders, please enlighten me!

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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I am finding this thread interesting.  I was under the impression as a Mac 
newbee that people did not fill up the Finder with icons but went to the Doc 
or to the Documents folder.  Now am I missing out on something?  Maybe you 
are referring to the Documents folders as Finder folders, please enlighten 
me!


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?


Oh wonderful! Been looking for a similar solution myself as can't 
understand why Finder by default shows everything in alphabetical order 
with folders showing in spurious places. Hope I'm making sense.


On 03/11/2014 19:09, David Griffith wrote:

I am not sure  I agree  with this.
I find that if I am in column view
   then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and 
sort by kind pretty much delivers this result.
For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the 
window are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all 
grouped together alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list 
of the single files in the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats 
the folder alias as a folder anyway this makes some sense.


So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android 
or Linux arrangement

David Griffith
On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:


No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years 
I have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have 
put many of my suggestions there and most of them made it.


If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature 
anymore. lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel 
spread sheet in my head of everything on my computer so for me finding 
thing is not hard about 80 percent of the time.
On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall 
 wrote:


hey all,
the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders 
are all thrown together.
is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the 
folders as on windows?
I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the 
folders and files to be alphabetical.

any help on this would be fantastic.

thanks

Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Michael Marshall]

cool, will give that a go
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 9:31 am, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> It is fine for me in most circumstances but sometimes it is slow if I use 
> command shift C to open up whole external drives. It is fine with my internal 
> drives though.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 03/11/2014 22:18, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> very good suggestion re column view.
>> What is column view like under yosemite? It could be quite sluggish under 
>> previous operating systems.
>>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 6:09 am, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not sure  I agree  with this.
>>> I find that if I am in column view
>>>  then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort 
>>> by kind pretty much delivers this result.
>>> For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the 
>>> window are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped 
>>> together alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the 
>>> single files in the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder 
>>> alias as a folder anyway this makes some sense.
>>> 
>>> So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
>>> Linux arrangement
>>> David Griffith
>>> On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
 No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I 
 have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
 feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put 
 many of my suggestions there and most of them made it.
 
 If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature 
 anymore. lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel 
 spread sheet in my head of everything on my computer so for me finding 
 thing is not hard about 80 percent of the time.
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders 
> are all thrown together.
> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the 
> folders as on windows?
> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the 
> folders and files to be alphabetical.
> any help on this would be fantastic.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[David Griffith]

It is fine for me in most circumstances but sometimes it is slow if I 
use command shift C to open up whole external drives. It is fine with my 
internal drives though.


David Griffith

On 03/11/2014 22:18, Michael Marshall wrote:

very good suggestion re column view.
What is column view like under yosemite? It could be quite sluggish under 
previous operating systems.

On 4 Nov 2014, at 6:09 am, David Griffith  wrote:

I am not sure  I agree  with this.
I find that if I am in column view
  then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort by 
kind pretty much delivers this result.
For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the window 
are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped together 
alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the single files in 
the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder alias as a folder 
anyway this makes some sense.

So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
Linux arrangement
David Griffith
On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I have 
had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this feature go to 
apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put many of my 
suggestions there and most of them made it.

If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet in 
my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard about 
80 percent of the time.

On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey all,
the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are all 
thrown together.
is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the folders as 
on windows?
I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the folders 
and files to be alphabetical.
any help on this would be fantastic.

thanks

Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Michael Marshall]

i just think folders on top is better. Maybe if I sought by kind and name it 
might do something.
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 4:19 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I 
> have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
> feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put 
> many of my suggestions there and most of them made it. 
> 
> If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
> lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet in 
> my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard 
> about 80 percent of the time.
>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are 
>> all thrown together.
>> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the folders 
>> as on windows?
>> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the folders 
>> and files to be alphabetical.
>> any help on this would be fantastic.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Michael Marshall]

very good suggestion re column view.
What is column view like under yosemite? It could be quite sluggish under 
previous operating systems. 
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 6:09 am, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I am not sure  I agree  with this.
> I find that if I am in column view
>  then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort by 
> kind pretty much delivers this result.
> For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the 
> window are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped 
> together alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the single 
> files in the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder alias as 
> a folder anyway this makes some sense.
> 
> So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
> Linux arrangement   
> David Griffith
> On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I 
>> have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
>> feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put 
>> many of my suggestions there and most of them made it. 
>> 
>> If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
>> lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet 
>> in my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard 
>> about 80 percent of the time.
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are 
>>> all thrown together.
>>> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the 
>>> folders as on windows?
>>> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the 
>>> folders and files to be alphabetical.
>>> any help on this would be fantastic.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Sarah k Alawami]

Think of it as a sim link.  I have several of these on my desk top  but 
sourting by  kind wont work if you have amadeus documents as they will head to 
the top then  the folders then the rest of the files.

Take care. 
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
> 
> Ah, so it doesn’t actually create a copy of the file, just a pointer to it? -
> 
> Andy
>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 20:28, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> An alias is the Mac term for a short-cut file.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> On 03/11/2014 20:01, Andy Collins wrote:
>>> David - Perhaps you can tell me what is the main purpose of an alias 
>>> folder? Isn’t it just the same as a copy? -
>>> 
>>> Andy
 On 3 Nov 2014, at 19:09, David Griffith  wrote:
 
 I am not sure  I agree  with this.
 I find that if I am in column view
 then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort 
 by kind pretty much delivers this result.
 For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the 
 window are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all 
 grouped together alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of 
 the single files in the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the 
 folder alias as a folder anyway this makes some sense.
 
 So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
 Linux arrangement
 David Griffith
 On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I 
> have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
> feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put 
> many of my suggestions there and most of them made it.
> 
> If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature 
> anymore. lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel 
> spread sheet in my head of everything on my computer so for me finding 
> thing is not hard about 80 percent of the time.
>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders 
>> are all thrown together.
>> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the 
>> folders as on windows?
>> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the 
>> folders and files to be alphabetical.
>> any help on this would be fantastic.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Andy Collins]

Ah, so it doesn’t actually create a copy of the file, just a pointer to it? -

Andy
> On 3 Nov 2014, at 20:28, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> An alias is the Mac term for a short-cut file.
> 
> David Griffith
> On 03/11/2014 20:01, Andy Collins wrote:
>> David - Perhaps you can tell me what is the main purpose of an alias folder? 
>> Isn’t it just the same as a copy? -
>> 
>> Andy
>>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 19:09, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not sure  I agree  with this.
>>> I find that if I am in column view
>>>  then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort 
>>> by kind pretty much delivers this result.
>>> For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the 
>>> window are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped 
>>> together alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the 
>>> single files in the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder 
>>> alias as a folder anyway this makes some sense.
>>> 
>>> So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
>>> Linux arrangement
>>> David Griffith
>>> On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
 No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I 
 have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
 feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put 
 many of my suggestions there and most of them made it.
 
 If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature 
 anymore. lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel 
 spread sheet in my head of everything on my computer so for me finding 
 thing is not hard about 80 percent of the time.
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders 
> are all thrown together.
> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the 
> folders as on windows?
> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the 
> folders and files to be alphabetical.
> any help on this would be fantastic.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[David Griffith]

An alias is the Mac term for a short-cut file.

David Griffith
On 03/11/2014 20:01, Andy Collins wrote:

David - Perhaps you can tell me what is the main purpose of an alias folder? 
Isn’t it just the same as a copy? -

Andy

On 3 Nov 2014, at 19:09, David Griffith  wrote:

I am not sure  I agree  with this.
I find that if I am in column view
  then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort by 
kind pretty much delivers this result.
For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the window 
are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped together 
alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the single files in 
the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder alias as a folder 
anyway this makes some sense.

So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
Linux arrangement
David Griffith
On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I have 
had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this feature go to 
apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put many of my 
suggestions there and most of them made it.

If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet in 
my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard about 
80 percent of the time.

On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey all,
the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are all 
thrown together.
is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the folders as 
on windows?
I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the folders 
and files to be alphabetical.
any help on this would be fantastic.

thanks

Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Andy Collins]

David - Perhaps you can tell me what is the main purpose of an alias folder? 
Isn’t it just the same as a copy? -

Andy
> On 3 Nov 2014, at 19:09, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I am not sure  I agree  with this.
> I find that if I am in column view
>  then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort by 
> kind pretty much delivers this result.
> For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the 
> window are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped 
> together alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the single 
> files in the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder alias as 
> a folder anyway this makes some sense.
> 
> So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
> Linux arrangement   
> David Griffith
> On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I 
>> have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
>> feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put 
>> many of my suggestions there and most of them made it. 
>> 
>> If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
>> lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet 
>> in my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard 
>> about 80 percent of the time.
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are 
>>> all thrown together.
>>> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the 
>>> folders as on windows?
>>> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the 
>>> folders and files to be alphabetical.
>>> any help on this would be fantastic.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Oh wonderful! Been looking for a similar solution myself as can't 
understand why Finder by default shows everything in alphabetical order 
with folders showing in spurious places. Hope I'm making sense.


On 03/11/2014 19:09, David Griffith wrote:

I am not sure  I agree  with this.
I find that if I am in column view
   then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort by 
kind pretty much delivers this result.
For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the window 
are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped together 
alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the single files in 
the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder alias as a folder 
anyway this makes some sense.

So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
Linux arrangement
David Griffith
On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:


No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I have 
had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this feature go to 
apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put many of my 
suggestions there and most of them made it.

If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet in 
my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard about 
80 percent of the time.

On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey all,
the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are all 
thrown together.
is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the folders as 
on windows?
I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the folders 
and files to be alphabetical.
any help on this would be fantastic.

thanks

Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[David Griffith]

I am not sure  I agree  with this.
I find that if I am in column view
  then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort by 
kind pretty much delivers this result.
For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the window 
are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped together 
alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the single files in 
the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder alias as a folder 
anyway this makes some sense.

So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
Linux arrangement   
David Griffith
On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I 
> have had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this 
> feature go to apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put 
> many of my suggestions there and most of them made it. 
> 
> If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
> lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet in 
> my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard 
> about 80 percent of the time.
>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are 
>> all thrown together.
>> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the folders 
>> as on windows?
>> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the folders 
>> and files to be alphabetical.
>> any help on this would be fantastic.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

[Sarah k Alawami]

No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I have 
had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this feature go to 
apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put many of my 
suggestions there and most of them made it. 

If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet in 
my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard about 
80 percent of the time.
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are 
> all thrown together.
> is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the folders 
> as on windows?
> I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the folders 
> and files to be alphabetical.
> any help on this would be fantastic.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Michael
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