Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and VoiceoverwithMountain Lion

2013-07-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Basically hit cmd down arrow on the dmg to open it. This mounts the virtual 
disk in the computers list. YOu can then if nothing happens hit cmd shift c to 
open the list then cmd down arrow to open the now mounted virtual volume When 
you copy the app from that to the apps folder, getting there with cmd shift a 
then hitting cmd v to paste, after hitting cmd c to copy the file from the 
virtual disk you then go back to the computer's list with cmd shift c to eject 
the virtual volume with cmd e. It sounds like a lot but trust me it is not

1. mount the image with cmd down arrow.

2. hit cmd shift c and then down arrow  on the folder on of the virtual disk.
3. find the .app file then cmd c to copy,

4. hit cmd shift a and cmd v.

5. hit cmd c and cmd e on the disk.

Tc.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "ANDY COLLINS"  wrote:

> Sarah - Don't know what you mean by "mount the dmg" -
> 
> Andy
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and 
> VoiceoverwithMountain Lion
> 
> 
>> You have the right one. Now mount the dmg and copy the app file to your apps 
>> folder.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:04 PM, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sarah - Thanks for this confirmation. I've now downloaded Chrome [not 
>>> Lightening yet] and it is showing up in my downloads folder as Googlechrome 
>>> dmg disk image. Have I got the right download do you think? -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
>>> withMountain Lion
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> You will have the choice of 2 browsers. You cannot last time I checked 
>>>> import your book marks and passwords from safari, but the web browser is 
>>>> quite good.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Being a Mac ewby, I don't want to screw up before I know enough to fix 
>>>>> things. so If I get the Lightning browser from the Mac store, will it 
>>>>> install over Safari, or will I have the choice of two browsers available? 
>>>>> -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:27, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I love the lightning browser. I actually forgot i had it until you 
>>>>>> mentioned it, but it is way faster then safari and rarely if ever brings 
>>>>>> up the safari busy message and last I got the app it was free, but how 
>>>>>> ever much it is now it is worth it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tc all.
>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Paul Hopewell  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
>>>>>>> allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
>>>>>>> whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App 
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul Hopewell
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Listers:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain such a one?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>> 
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>>

Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and VoiceoverwithMountain Lion

2013-07-09 Thread ANDY COLLINS

Sarah - Don't know what you mean by "mount the dmg" -

Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and 
VoiceoverwithMountain Lion



You have the right one. Now mount the dmg and copy the app file to your 
apps folder.


Take care.
On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:04 PM, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:

Sarah - Thanks for this confirmation. I've now downloaded Chrome [not 
Lightening yet] and it is showing up in my downloads folder as 
Googlechrome dmg disk image. Have I got the right download do you 
think? -


Andy
- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
withMountain Lion



You will have the choice of 2 browsers. You cannot last time I checked 
import your book marks and passwords from safari, but the web browser is 
quite good.


Take care.
On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Andy Collins  
wrote:


Being a Mac ewby, I don't want to screw up before I know enough to fix 
things. so If I get the Lightning browser from the Mac store, will it 
install over Safari, or will I have the choice of two browsers 
available? -


Andy
On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:27, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

I love the lightning browser. I actually forgot i had it until you 
mentioned it, but it is way faster then safari and rarely if ever 
brings up the safari busy message and last I got the app it was free, 
but how ever much it is now it is worth it.


Tc all.
On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Paul Hopewell  
wrote:



Hello,
I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App 
store.


Paul Hopewell

On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Listers:



I heard that there are other options for browsers which are 
compatible with

Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain such a one?



Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.



Andrew

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Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and VoiceoverwithMountain Lion

2013-07-08 Thread Chris H

Andy, not sure then, I thought Bbc used Flash throughout.

On 08/07/2013 15:25, ANDY COLLINS wrote:

Chris - Perhaps I'm not understanding the use of Flash, but why can I
listen to live streams from the BBC, just not old programmes with the
iPlayer -

Andy
- Original Message - From: "Chris H" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and
VoiceoverwithMountain Lion



Hi all it's not the Bbc's fault it's Adobe's for not making their
Flash Player accessible on the mac. There's no fix any time soon either.

On 08/07/2013 11:05, ANDY COLLINS wrote:

Hi all -

New to the Mac, only had my MacBook Air for 3 weeks. I'm interested in
the possibility of using a different web browser, as I want to use

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

to listen to radio/TV programmes I miss, here in the UK. I'm able to
find the programme I want to listen too, but the play button is a
graphic, and VO can't see it. JAWS under Windows was ok with this, as
the BBC was made aware of the problem, and made it accessible, but they
don't appear to have taken Mac users in to consideration. I'll contact
them about this, but in the meantime, don't want to keep missing
programmes. Of course, I could be wrong, and maybe there is a way to
have VO see the play button when in a graphic, and I just don't know how
to make it happen, so if anybody knows if VO can be made to see these
graphic buttons, I'd appreciate the knowledge -

Andy
- Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell"

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover
withMountain Lion



Hello,
I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often
allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for
whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App
store.

Paul Hopewell

On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Listers:



I heard that there are other options for browsers which are
compatible with
Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?



Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.



Andrew

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Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and VoiceoverwithMountain Lion

2013-07-08 Thread ANDY COLLINS
Chris - Perhaps I'm not understanding the use of Flash, but why can I listen 
to live streams from the BBC, just not old programmes with the iPlayer -


Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris H" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and 
VoiceoverwithMountain Lion



Hi all it's not the Bbc's fault it's Adobe's for not making their Flash 
Player accessible on the mac. There's no fix any time soon either.


On 08/07/2013 11:05, ANDY COLLINS wrote:

Hi all -

New to the Mac, only had my MacBook Air for 3 weeks. I'm interested in
the possibility of using a different web browser, as I want to use

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

to listen to radio/TV programmes I miss, here in the UK. I'm able to
find the programme I want to listen too, but the play button is a
graphic, and VO can't see it. JAWS under Windows was ok with this, as
the BBC was made aware of the problem, and made it accessible, but they
don't appear to have taken Mac users in to consideration. I'll contact
them about this, but in the meantime, don't want to keep missing
programmes. Of course, I could be wrong, and maybe there is a way to
have VO see the play button when in a graphic, and I just don't know how
to make it happen, so if anybody knows if VO can be made to see these
graphic buttons, I'd appreciate the knowledge -

Andy
- Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell"

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover
withMountain Lion



Hello,
I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often
allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for
whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App
store.

Paul Hopewell

On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Listers:



I heard that there are other options for browsers which are
compatible with
Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?



Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.



Andrew

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Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and VoiceoverwithMountain Lion

2013-07-08 Thread ANDY COLLINS

Hi Anne -

Thanks for the link. Just took a look, and it seems this is only for TV? My 
main requirement is to be able to access missed BBC radio programmes. Have I 
got it wrong, will this download give access to radio as well as TV? -


Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and 
VoiceoverwithMountain Lion




Hello Andy,

Don't despair! There's a solution.

The app you need is Get iPlayer Automator

<https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39019/get-iplayer-automator>

It works even outside the UK.

Cheers,

Anne

On 8 Jul 2013, at 12:05, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:


Hi all -

New to the Mac, only had my MacBook Air for 3 weeks. I'm interested in 
the possibility of using a different web browser, as I want to use


www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

to listen to radio/TV programmes I miss, here in the UK. I'm able to find 
the programme I want to listen too, but the play button is a graphic, and 
VO can't see it. JAWS under Windows was ok with this, as the BBC was made 
aware of the problem, and made it accessible, but they don't appear to 
have taken Mac users in to consideration. I'll contact them about this, 
but in the meantime, don't want to keep missing programmes. Of course, I 
could be wrong, and maybe there is a way to have VO see the play button 
when in a graphic, and I just don't know how to make it happen, so if 
anybody knows if VO can be made to see these graphic buttons, I'd 
appreciate the knowledge -


Andy
- Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
withMountain Lion




Hello,
I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App 
store.


Paul Hopewell

On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Listers:



I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible 
with

Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?



Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.



Andrew

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