Re: Hiding message contents table in Lion?
Actually, this appears to have been fixed in Mountain Lion, as I was able to perform the software double click to hide the preview pain. On 01/10/2012 00:56, Esther wrote: Hi Gary, Sarah's correct: in Lion you need to do a physical mouse click after routing your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor on the horizontal splitter. VoiceOver's software equivalent of a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space) doesn't work here. Since you're using a MacBook you can press your trackpad twice quickly in succession to do the double click. I perform a hardware double-click by placing my right hand on the flat area beside the trackpad, and then using a thumb or forefinger to double click. I prefer to do the double clicks on my keyboard, so I have set up my Mac so I can toggle mouse keys on or off by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly. With this setting, which you can enable in System Preferences Universal Access under the Mouse Trackpad tab by checking the box for Press the Option key five times to turn Mouse Keys on or off, you can simply double tap the i key when focused on the horizontal splitter to double click and close the Preview pane in mail. Then press the Option key again 5 times to turn mouse keys off again, so that you'll be able to use your keyboard normally. Mouse keys is normally turned on so that you can move your cursor on the screen up, down, left, right, or diagonally, by pressing the keys above, below, to the left, to the right, or diagonally positioned around the 5 key of a numeric keypad. On laptops that position is occupied by the i key (where the embedded numeric keyboard 5 key used to be). You can also click a t the current mouse position by tapping the i key, and set up Verbosity under VoiceOver Utility so that VO announces announces what is under the mouse cursor with no delay. This helps in some accessibility situations, because you you can move your mouse cursor across the screen with a sequence of key presses (1 pixel per press) using mouse keys when this is enabled, and have VoiceOver tell you what is under your mouse cursor. Then, when you reach a control that VoiceOver can read out, even if there are no hooks to move there with regular navigation shortcuts, you can click it by pressing the 5 key (on full-sized keyboard with a numeric keypad or on an attached USB or wireless/bluetooth numpad) or the i key (on a laptop). The only caveat is that mouse keys and Numpad commander should not both be turned on at the same time, since they have conflicting definitions for the numeric keypad actions. HTH. The software double click (with VO-Shift-Space) used to work to drop the horizontal splitter and close the mail Preview pane in earlier versions of Mac OS X, but it doesn't work for Lion and later. Using the trackpad to double click or turning mouse keys on and double tapping with the i key on your Mac laptop will work for this. Cheers, Esther On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Actually I click the mouse twice, and that's the physical mouse. not the vo shift space thing. Try that instead when you redo the steps. On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:15 PM, gary price gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. Please is there any way of hiding the message contents table in Lion? I am doing those things that someone posted to this list, and it is not working! I am navigating to the horizontal splitter after the message table, pressing VO command f5 to route the mouse, then VO shift space to perform 2 clicks. Thanks! Any help appreciated. Gary Price. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting
Thanks re: hiding message contents table in Lion.
Hello everyone. Just a quick message to say thanks to my friend Christopher Hallsworth I have managed to fix it! I have used the Mouse keys feature. Very useful! Its sorted now. Gary Price. Sent from my Macbook. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Hiding message contents table in Lion?
Actually I click the mouse twice, and that's the physical mouse. not the vo shift space thing. Try that instead when you redo the steps. On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:15 PM, gary price gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. Please is there any way of hiding the message contents table in Lion? I am doing those things that someone posted to this list, and it is not working! I am navigating to the horizontal splitter after the message table, pressing VO command f5 to route the mouse, then VO shift space to perform 2 clicks. Thanks! Any help appreciated. Gary Price. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Hiding message contents table in Lion?
Hi Gary, Sarah's correct: in Lion you need to do a physical mouse click after routing your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor on the horizontal splitter. VoiceOver's software equivalent of a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space) doesn't work here. Since you're using a MacBook you can press your trackpad twice quickly in succession to do the double click. I perform a hardware double-click by placing my right hand on the flat area beside the trackpad, and then using a thumb or forefinger to double click. I prefer to do the double clicks on my keyboard, so I have set up my Mac so I can toggle mouse keys on or off by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly. With this setting, which you can enable in System Preferences Universal Access under the Mouse Trackpad tab by checking the box for Press the Option key five times to turn Mouse Keys on or off, you can simply double tap the i key when focused on the horizontal splitter to double click and close the Preview pane in mail. Then press the Option key again 5 times to turn mouse keys off again, so that you'll be able to use your keyboard normally. Mouse keys is normally turned on so that you can move your cursor on the screen up, down, left, right, or diagonally, by pressing the keys above, below, to the left, to the right, or diagonally positioned around the 5 key of a numeric keypad. On laptops that position is occupied by the i key (where the embedded numeric keyboard 5 key used to be). You can also click a t the current mouse position by tapping the i key, and set up Verbosity under VoiceOver Utility so that VO announces announces what is under the mouse cursor with no delay. This helps in some accessibility situations, because you you can move your mouse cursor across the screen with a sequence of key presses (1 pixel per press) using mouse keys when this is enabled, and have VoiceOver tell you what is under your mouse cursor. Then, when you reach a control that VoiceOver can read out, even if there are no hooks to move there with regular navigation shortcuts, you can click it by pressing the 5 key (on full-sized keyboard with a numeric keypad or on an attached USB or wireless/bluetooth numpad) or the i key (on a laptop). The only caveat is that mouse keys and Numpad commander should not both be turned on at the same time, since they have conflicting definitions for the numeric keypad actions. HTH. The software double click (with VO-Shift-Space) used to work to drop the horizontal splitter and close the mail Preview pane in earlier versions of Mac OS X, but it doesn't work for Lion and later. Using the trackpad to double click or turning mouse keys on and double tapping with the i key on your Mac laptop will work for this. Cheers, Esther On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Actually I click the mouse twice, and that's the physical mouse. not the vo shift space thing. Try that instead when you redo the steps. On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:15 PM, gary price gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. Please is there any way of hiding the message contents table in Lion? I am doing those things that someone posted to this list, and it is not working! I am navigating to the horizontal splitter after the message table, pressing VO command f5 to route the mouse, then VO shift space to perform 2 clicks. Thanks! Any help appreciated. Gary Price. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
