Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Isaac,

It’s a very bad idea to have VoiceOver announce when a modifier key is pressed 
as it prevents the use of the command “Copy last phrase to clipboard”.

Cheers,

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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver 
Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the 
categories table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than 
guessing will stop there and let others chime in.


On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Thanks Chris.  Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity?
On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:


Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue 
box.
2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says words.
3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out of 
the window.


On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo.  Thanks.

Eleanor
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Not Isaac but thanks for that Anne as it means I need to uncheck that key 
then.


Eleanor
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From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo


Hello Isaac,

It’s a very bad idea to have VoiceOver announce when a modifier key is 
pressed as it prevents the use of the command “Copy last phrase to 
clipboard”.


Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
OK Chris, I will await other responses.  I obviously just accidentally 
changed something.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo


Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver 
Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories 
table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will 
stop there and let others chime in.


On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote:
Thanks Chris.  Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder 
Activity?
On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:



Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options 
dialogue box.
2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it 
says words.
3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you 
out of the window.



On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. 
Thanks.


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RE: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread David Griffith
Removing activities is easy.

Go to voiceover utility VO F8
Interact with the Utility Table.
Cursor down to Activities
Tab out of the Utility Table into the Activity dialogue.
Interact with the Activity Table  shown there.
Cursor through the table until you have selected the activity you want to
remove.
Tab out of that table and you will land probably on the add button.
VO Right arrow once and you will land on the remove button.
Hit that button and then close VO Utility.
Job done.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 23 July 2014 09:37
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

OK Chris, I will await other responses.  I obviously just accidentally 
changed something.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo


 Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver 
 Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories

 table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will 
 stop there and let others chime in.

 On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Thanks Chris.  Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder 
 Activity?
 On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

 Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options 
 dialogue box.
 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it 
 says words.
 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you 
 out of the window.


 On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. 
 Thanks.

 Eleanor
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread Eleanor Burke
Well I am not so sure this is what I want though I am not doubting your 
instruction.  I did not set up an activity, just that vo is saying finder 
activity and when I open Mail vo says mail activity.  This is why I thought it 
might be a verbosity issue.

Eleanor
On 23 Jul 2014, at 10:55, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Removing activities is easy.
 
 Go to voiceover utility VO F8
 Interact with the Utility Table.
 Cursor down to Activities
 Tab out of the Utility Table into the Activity dialogue.
 Interact with the Activity Table  shown there.
 Cursor through the table until you have selected the activity you want to
 remove.
 Tab out of that table and you will land probably on the add button.
 VO Right arrow once and you will land on the remove button.
 Hit that button and then close VO Utility.
 Job done.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
 Sent: 23 July 2014 09:37
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
 
 OK Chris, I will await other responses.  I obviously just accidentally 
 changed something.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:34 AM
 Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
 
 
 Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver 
 Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories
 
 table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will 
 stop there and let others chime in.
 
 On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Thanks Chris.  Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder 
 Activity?
 On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options 
 dialogue box.
 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it 
 says words.
 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you 
 out of the window.
 
 
 On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. 
 Thanks.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-22 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options 
dialogue box.
2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it 
says words.
3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you 
out of the window.



On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo.  Thanks.

Eleanor
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-22 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
The end of the message is cut off.  I did the below but this did not work 
for me.  I want to be able to type in an edit field and hear the key press 
as I press it.  Carrying out the below instructions gave me something like 
different sounds as the word was being built up, it sort of reminded me of 
the way children are taught how to read today.  I obviously did something to 
stop this key echo which is very strange.  Why would I check a modifier box 
in any case to produce key echo?
- Original Message - 
From: isaac.heb...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo



Just go to voiceover utility.
Then  press command 2 to go to verbosity.
Next vo right arrow to the announcement tab and press vo space bar on it.
Next tab to the announce when modifier key is pressed  check box and then 
press vo space bar to check it.and
On Jul 22, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. 
Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-22 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks Chris, working well now.  Cannot imagine how I did that though I was 
looking around in that area before.  
On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue 
 box.
 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says 
 words.
 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out 
 of the window.
 
 
 On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo.  Thanks.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-22 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks Chris.  Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity?
On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue 
 box.
 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says 
 words.
 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out 
 of the window.
 
 
 On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo.  Thanks.
 
 Eleanor
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