Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

2013-11-03 Thread Bryan Jones
Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In fact, 
I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based browsers 
Chrome  Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current webkit code. It 
wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped into webkit. As I 
reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar behavior under 
Mavericks.

I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1

Bryan

On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith snuc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
 same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
 headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know there 
 are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only two 
 headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.

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Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

2013-11-03 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Brian,
Interesting. I don’t listen to web page summaries, so never noticed this 
behavior. I always just start navigating with quicknav or vo-cmd keys, and it 
works. That’s definitely a weird bug.
Best,
Zack.
On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In 
 fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based 
 browsers Chrome  Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current 
 webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped 
 into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar 
 behavior under Mavericks.
 
 I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
 installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
 find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1
 
 Bryan
 
 On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith snuc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
 same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
 headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know 
 there are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only 
 two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.
 
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Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

2013-11-03 Thread Esther
Hi All,

I'm not sure whether it's possible to downgrade from Safari 6.1 if you're 
running Mavericks, where this is Safari 7.0, but people who have been running 
Mountain Lion who want to revert to Safari 6.0.5 have been able to reinstall 
the operating system from the recovery partition by pressing Command+R on 
startup.  This boots up from the recovery partition, and replaces the stock Mac 
apps with the versions in the recovery partition, and does not affect your 
third party apps.  I don't remember how accessible this process was, since I 
made a bootable USB drive for both Lion and Mountain Lion.  Apparently, Time 
Machine backups may not easily work here, since you'd have to also fix the 
bookkeeping of your currently installed apps.  And I don't know what happens if 
you try this under Lion.

This is one of the reasons that I like to make full bootable clone backups 
periodically.

Apparently, quite a lot of people don't like Safari 6.1, since there are many 
posts in the Apple Support forums from people trying to roll back.

Cheers,

Esther

 
 On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
 
 Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In 
 fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based 
 browsers Chrome  Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current 
 webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped 
 into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing 
 similar behavior under Mavericks.
 
 I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
 installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
 find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1
 
 Bryan
 
 On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
 
 I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
 same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
 headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know 
 there are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces 
 only two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.
 
 
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Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

2013-11-03 Thread Bryan Jones
An update to my note about Webkit versions: After installing today's Webkit 
Nightly builds, the headings issues *appear* to be resolved for me on both ML  
Mavericks. With this current version I am not experiencing the following 
headings issues, though they still exist in Safari  Chrome Canary: Google 
search results were showing just a few items under headings; Comments in 
Applevis postings were displaying the comment number with no associated heading 
text; Amazon search results were displaying just a small part of each heading.

YMMV, use at your own risk, etc. Other things might be broken in these versions.

The version numbers reported are:

On ML:
Version 6.1 (8537.71, 538+)

On Mavericks:
Version 7.0 (9537.71, 538+)

HTH,
Bryan

On Nov 3, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:
 Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In 
 fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based 
 browsers Chrome  Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current 
 webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped 
 into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar 
 behavior under Mavericks.
 
 I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
 installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
 find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1

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Safari 6.1 bug?

2013-11-02 Thread Fred Smith
 I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has 
struck the same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page 
and ask for headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even 
though I know there are more. For example, a Google search results page 
now announces only two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.


After encountering this poblem, I've tested by trying Safari on another 
machine. Running the old version of Safari, headings announce fine. As 
soon as I upgraded to version 6.1, they no longer announced properly.


Anyone have any idea how to fix this problem? And if not, how easy is it 
to revert to the previous version of Safari? (I'm running OSX Lion, 10.7.5).


Thanks,
Fred
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Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

2013-11-02 Thread Brian Fischler
Yes, I am having the same exact problem, and encounter this header bug when 
using the voiceover rotor but once I exit the rotor and use quick nag I can 
navigate down through the headers. This is yet another very pathetic bug on 
Apple's part and either Voiceover gets little to no testing before any releases 
or the testers testing voiceover are morons.
On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith snuc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
 same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
 headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know there 
 are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only two 
 headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.
 
 After encountering this poblem, I've tested by trying Safari on another 
 machine. Running the old version of Safari, headings announce fine. As soon 
 as I upgraded to version 6.1, they no longer announced properly.
 
 Anyone have any idea how to fix this problem? And if not, how easy is it to 
 revert to the previous version of Safari? (I'm running OSX Lion, 10.7.5).
 
 Thanks,
 Fred
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