What are the differences in the verbosity settings? I've had the Mac a while 
now but never been able to figure that.

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On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari announcing
> text that I had selected no matter what method I used including lines and
> words selected from the Web rota.
> There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings where it is
> not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an issue not
> confined to you as others on this list appear also to have encountered this
> problem.
> Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all.
> 
> I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. As far as I am aware I have  not
> altered anything else in verbosity.
> 
> David Griffith.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
> Sent: 01 May 2013 11:01
> To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: Help selecting text on websites
> 
> Ok.
> The reason you did not have to use option is probably I think because you
> have quick nav turned on. This is fine but it limits the flexibility of the
> text you select to words. I sometimes want to select characters using the
> arrow keys, and more importantly as I am hearing impaired carefully and
> slowly review  the text.
> Quick nav is great but I think you would get even more single hand
> functionality with numpad commander which I use all the time. You need a
> keyboard with a numpad keypad for this though. I think it is possible to
> transform a laptop keyboard to emulate a numpad keyboard but I think you are
> probably better off sticking to Quick nav on laptops.
> Re sticky keys announcement have you tried adjusting Voiceover verbosity? I
> have found Voiceover far less annoying with its announcements since I
> reduced verbosity from high to medium. As far as I can see Voiceover still
> announces everything critical but stops making annoying and unnecessary
> announcements like new line doing say all read out and so on. It might be
> worth a try if you have not adjusted this setting.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
> Sent: 01 May 2013 10:14
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> Thanks for this.  I added lines to the rotor.  When I tried Shift down this
> selected the line but VO didn't announce anything so I'm not keen on that
> method.
> 
> I tried the interact with text, press VO Enter thing and this worked fine
> but I found I could select stuff with just the arrow keys and don't have to
> press Option and Command with it.
> 
> I'd really like to use theVO Shift C thing because I think that would be the
> most efficient way but I have a problem with that at the moment.  Because
> I'm using Sticky Keys, whenever I press VO Shift C the last phrase VO said
> is "sticky key x off".  I wonder if I can stop VO announcing the status of
> the sticky keys?  Their status is indicated by sounds which I'm used to so
> would like to stop VO announcing them if possible but I don't know if this
> is possible?  Any ideas?
> 
> THanks,
> Catherine
> On 4/30/13, David Griffith <d.griff...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Firstly I would, as suggested on this list a couple of weeks ago, 
>> amend your Voiceover settings in Voiceover Utility  to include lines 
>> under your web rota.
>> You will find this under Web and Web rota. Just check the lines 
>> element in the table of elements to include in the rota.
>> This will add the capacity to select lines of text in Safari.
>> As far as I recall this is announced correctly by Voiceover but I am 
>> on my windows laptop at the moment so will have to check later.
>> 
>> An alternative method of selecting words is slightly more convoluted 
>> but definitely works and is read appropriately.
>> 1,. Interact with Text.
>> 2. Press VO enter.
>> 3. Then select the words with shift option and cursor keys.
>> 4. Press VO enter again to end selection. Press Command C to copy.
>> 5.  Uninteract with Text to return to normal web page reading.
>> 
>> 
>> Also remember the standby VO Shit C to copy the last phrase spoken to 
>> the clipboard. This is a rapid and efficient way of copying a 
>> paragraph of text or other page element.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> .
>> 
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