Re: Voiceover reading quotation marks at the end of paragraphs where it doesn't exist

2013-11-10 Thread Parham Doustdar

I would love to use Alex, but it is not as responsive as Nuance voices :-(
On 11/10/2013 1:06 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Ah Oh wow that long?  I thought the voices were only in ML, but I can’t 
remember at the moment.  Yeah so someone has to bring this up with nuance. I 
guess.

Take  care.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:


I find that this is an issue if you use  any of the nuance voices.  Using Alex, 
this issue is not present at all.  This has been an issue with the nuance 
voices ever since they put them in in Lion.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:


right now I would just deal with it. I don’t think apple will ever fix this and 
I’m not sure if it is apple, the synth they use, or what. If it is the synth 
they use, it is newance’s fault and they have to try and fix it.

Take care.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Sarah,

Thanks. Is there a way to work around this, or should I just bear through with 
it? It is particularly annoying when I’m reading books in iBooks.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:


sounds like dickens.

Anyway. I have that issue to when I’m putting in web page addresses in to edit 
fields. I might hear http://google.com quotation mark. or something to that 
effect or in the field where the partial web address I’ll hear http quotation 
mark even though there is not one there. I’ve been having  this issue since 
last year but never brought it up  as I thought apple would fix it.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all,

I have been getting this annoying issue that I don’t know how to solve. When 
reading by paragraph using Voiceover, I hear “quotation mark” or “double quote” 
based on what synthesizer I have enabled. For example, here is a text I have 
copied using vo+shift+c:

Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story.

However, when I read it (with punctuation level set to most)m I hear this 
instead:

Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story. Quotation 
mark

To reproduce this, go to 
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16637310-nevermore---novel-of-love-loss-edgar-allan-poe?ac=1.
 Remember to set your punctuation level to “most”.

Thanks.
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Voiceover reading quotation marks at the end of paragraphs where it doesn't exist

2013-11-09 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi all,

I have been getting this annoying issue that I don’t know how to solve. When 
reading by paragraph using Voiceover, I hear “quotation mark” or “double quote” 
based on what synthesizer I have enabled. For example, here is a text I have 
copied using vo+shift+c:

Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story.

However, when I read it (with punctuation level set to most)m I hear this 
instead:

Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story. Quotation 
mark

To reproduce this, go to 
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16637310-nevermore---novel-of-love-loss-edgar-allan-poe?ac=1.
 Remember to set your punctuation level to “most”.

Thanks.
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Re: Voiceover reading quotation marks at the end of paragraphs where it doesn't exist

2013-11-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
sounds like dickens.

Anyway. I have that issue to when I’m putting in web page addresses in to edit 
fields. I might hear http://google.com quotation mark. or something to that 
effect or in the field where the partial web address I’ll hear http quotation 
mark even though there is not one there. I’ve been having  this issue since 
last year but never brought it up  as I thought apple would fix it.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have been getting this annoying issue that I don’t know how to solve. When 
 reading by paragraph using Voiceover, I hear “quotation mark” or “double 
 quote” based on what synthesizer I have enabled. For example, here is a text 
 I have copied using vo+shift+c:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story.
 
 However, when I read it (with punctuation level set to most)m I hear this 
 instead:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story. Quotation 
 mark
 
 To reproduce this, go to 
 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16637310-nevermore---novel-of-love-loss-edgar-allan-poe?ac=1.
  Remember to set your punctuation level to “most”.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: Voiceover reading quotation marks at the end of paragraphs where it doesn't exist

2013-11-09 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi Sarah,

Thanks. Is there a way to work around this, or should I just bear through with 
it? It is particularly annoying when I’m reading books in iBooks.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 sounds like dickens.
 
 Anyway. I have that issue to when I’m putting in web page addresses in to 
 edit fields. I might hear http://google.com quotation mark. or something to 
 that effect or in the field where the partial web address I’ll hear http 
 quotation mark even though there is not one there. I’ve been having  this 
 issue since last year but never brought it up  as I thought apple would fix 
 it.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have been getting this annoying issue that I don’t know how to solve. When 
 reading by paragraph using Voiceover, I hear “quotation mark” or “double 
 quote” based on what synthesizer I have enabled. For example, here is a text 
 I have copied using vo+shift+c:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story.
 
 However, when I read it (with punctuation level set to most)m I hear this 
 instead:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story. 
 Quotation mark
 
 To reproduce this, go to 
 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16637310-nevermore---novel-of-love-loss-edgar-allan-poe?ac=1.
  Remember to set your punctuation level to “most”.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: Voiceover reading quotation marks at the end of paragraphs where it doesn't exist

2013-11-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
right now I would just deal with it. I don’t think apple will ever fix this and 
I’m not sure if it is apple, the synth they use, or what. If it is the synth 
they use, it is newance’s fault and they have to try and fix it.

Take care.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,
 
 Thanks. Is there a way to work around this, or should I just bear through 
 with it? It is particularly annoying when I’m reading books in iBooks.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 sounds like dickens.
 
 Anyway. I have that issue to when I’m putting in web page addresses in to 
 edit fields. I might hear http://google.com quotation mark. or something to 
 that effect or in the field where the partial web address I’ll hear http 
 quotation mark even though there is not one there. I’ve been having  this 
 issue since last year but never brought it up  as I thought apple would fix 
 it.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have been getting this annoying issue that I don’t know how to solve. 
 When reading by paragraph using Voiceover, I hear “quotation mark” or 
 “double quote” based on what synthesizer I have enabled. For example, here 
 is a text I have copied using vo+shift+c:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story.
 
 However, when I read it (with punctuation level set to most)m I hear this 
 instead:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story. 
 Quotation mark
 
 To reproduce this, go to 
 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16637310-nevermore---novel-of-love-loss-edgar-allan-poe?ac=1.
  Remember to set your punctuation level to “most”.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: Voiceover reading quotation marks at the end of paragraphs where it doesn't exist

2013-11-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
I find that this is an issue if you use  any of the nuance voices.  Using Alex, 
this issue is not present at all.  This has been an issue with the nuance 
voices ever since they put them in in Lion.  
On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 right now I would just deal with it. I don’t think apple will ever fix this 
 and I’m not sure if it is apple, the synth they use, or what. If it is the 
 synth they use, it is newance’s fault and they have to try and fix it.
 
 Take care.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 Thanks. Is there a way to work around this, or should I just bear through 
 with it? It is particularly annoying when I’m reading books in iBooks.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 sounds like dickens.
 
 Anyway. I have that issue to when I’m putting in web page addresses in to 
 edit fields. I might hear http://google.com quotation mark. or something to 
 that effect or in the field where the partial web address I’ll hear http 
 quotation mark even though there is not one there. I’ve been having  this 
 issue since last year but never brought it up  as I thought apple would fix 
 it.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have been getting this annoying issue that I don’t know how to solve. 
 When reading by paragraph using Voiceover, I hear “quotation mark” or 
 “double quote” based on what synthesizer I have enabled. For example, here 
 is a text I have copied using vo+shift+c:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story.
 
 However, when I read it (with punctuation level set to most)m I hear this 
 instead:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story. 
 Quotation mark
 
 To reproduce this, go to 
 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16637310-nevermore---novel-of-love-loss-edgar-allan-poe?ac=1.
  Remember to set your punctuation level to “most”.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: Voiceover reading quotation marks at the end of paragraphs where it doesn't exist

2013-11-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ah Oh wow that long?  I thought the voices were only in ML, but I can’t 
remember at the moment.  Yeah so someone has to bring this up with nuance. I 
guess.

Take  care.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:

 I find that this is an issue if you use  any of the nuance voices.  Using 
 Alex, this issue is not present at all.  This has been an issue with the 
 nuance voices ever since they put them in in Lion.  
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 right now I would just deal with it. I don’t think apple will ever fix this 
 and I’m not sure if it is apple, the synth they use, or what. If it is the 
 synth they use, it is newance’s fault and they have to try and fix it.
 
 Take care.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 Thanks. Is there a way to work around this, or should I just bear through 
 with it? It is particularly annoying when I’m reading books in iBooks.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 sounds like dickens.
 
 Anyway. I have that issue to when I’m putting in web page addresses in to 
 edit fields. I might hear http://google.com quotation mark. or something 
 to that effect or in the field where the partial web address I’ll hear 
 http quotation mark even though there is not one there. I’ve been having  
 this issue since last year but never brought it up  as I thought apple 
 would fix it.
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have been getting this annoying issue that I don’t know how to solve. 
 When reading by paragraph using Voiceover, I hear “quotation mark” or 
 “double quote” based on what synthesizer I have enabled. For example, 
 here is a text I have copied using vo+shift+c:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story.
 
 However, when I read it (with punctuation level set to most)m I hear this 
 instead:
 
 Once, upon a shoreline dreary, there was a tree. This is her story. 
 Quotation mark
 
 To reproduce this, go to 
 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16637310-nevermore---novel-of-love-loss-edgar-allan-poe?ac=1.
  Remember to set your punctuation level to “most”.
 
 Thanks.
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 worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
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 unpredictable happen.
 
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 As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
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 worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your