loss of focus in the UI-picker view - was was Re: Tickers: Enough to drive, me, intoxicated!
I can confirm Chris's observation while attempting to peruse Magazines via the BARD mobile app, however believe this is more of a function of how the UIPickerViewController in question was coded. For example, I was trying to bring the international audience into this discussion by locating a scenario that anyone could test. I first attempted to use the MegaBus mobile app while still on IOS6, and the picker loss of focus issue rendered the search and buy process unusable. I can confirm that this has not changed in IOS 7.02. I launched Safari, and went to the MegaBus USA site, and observed that the picker worked flawlessly; I.E. flicking up or down never results in the loss of focus. So, perhaps the question is whether there is indeed a VO bug, or did the Developers of the BARD and MegaBus IOS apps fail to code their UIPicker view controllers correctly. If the latter (which I suspect is most likely), it would be great if we knew what specific modifications we could suggest that affected developers might consider implementing in their ViewControllers so as to fully exploit accessibility features such as VoiceOver. Best regards, and its a wonderful day in the neighborhood since the RedSox lost!! Geoff - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:35 PM Subject: Tickers: Enough to drive, me, intoxicated! Has anyone noticed in I O S 7.02 that Apple in combination with Voiceover, broke the ticker items? Now, when there is one, you can't touch the bottom half of the screen any longer to get to it... you gotta flick to it. It's the only way, case closed. Second of all, once focussed, if you then one finger flick up to the next item, you then will completely! lose focus, then you gotta flick all? the freaking way back down the screen, find? the damn ticker again, then flick again, lose focus, flick down to the ticker again, flick, lose focus, etc. etc? You can't just find the thing, and one finger shook shook shook shook? This is the most aggervating thing I've seen. Good luck with tickers that have over a hundred items in them! Yes they exist. Don't believe me? Go look at the Bard mobile app under magazines by title. Yeah, try navigating that for a while losing focus every time, then tell me you're not fed up after about 2 minutes. LOL! Oh, and by the way, there is no way from the bard web site to add magazines to your wish list, so good luck going there on the pc or mac and just putting it there for later download. I might have a work around, but I need to test it before I say what it is. Still though, is anyone else seeing this? This isn't just Bard Mobile either. That was only an example. This is happenning globally across the whole I O S platform regardless the app. Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: loss of focus in the UI-picker view - was was Re: Tickers: Enough to drive, me, intoxicated!
Lol! Love the foot ball reference. I hand no idea megabus had an ios app! Yeah! Cool! this will make a trip I'm planning easier to plan. lol! Anyway back to the subject. I also suspect that it is a UI thing rather then an all out voice over bug that's global. If some can find out what control is the item picker, then we can perhaps email them the apple vis guide on accessibility and tell them which control is giving the fits. Take care. On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I can confirm Chris's observation while attempting to peruse Magazines via the BARD mobile app, however believe this is more of a function of how the UIPickerViewController in question was coded. For example, I was trying to bring the international audience into this discussion by locating a scenario that anyone could test. I first attempted to use the MegaBus mobile app while still on IOS6, and the picker loss of focus issue rendered the search and buy process unusable. I can confirm that this has not changed in IOS 7.02. I launched Safari, and went to the MegaBus USA site, and observed that the picker worked flawlessly; I.E. flicking up or down never results in the loss of focus. So, perhaps the question is whether there is indeed a VO bug, or did the Developers of the BARD and MegaBus IOS apps fail to code their UIPicker view controllers correctly. If the latter (which I suspect is most likely), it would be great if we knew what specific modifications we could suggest that affected developers might consider implementing in their ViewControllers so as to fully exploit accessibility features such as VoiceOver. Best regards, and its a wonderful day in the neighborhood since the RedSox lost!! Geoff - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:35 PM Subject: Tickers: Enough to drive, me, intoxicated! Has anyone noticed in I O S 7.02 that Apple in combination with Voiceover, broke the ticker items? Now, when there is one, you can't touch the bottom half of the screen any longer to get to it... you gotta flick to it. It's the only way, case closed. Second of all, once focussed, if you then one finger flick up to the next item, you then will completely! lose focus, then you gotta flick all? the freaking way back down the screen, find? the damn ticker again, then flick again, lose focus, flick down to the ticker again, flick, lose focus, etc. etc? You can't just find the thing, and one finger shook shook shook shook? This is the most aggervating thing I've seen. Good luck with tickers that have over a hundred items in them! Yes they exist. Don't believe me? Go look at the Bard mobile app under magazines by title. Yeah, try navigating that for a while losing focus every time, then tell me you're not fed up after about 2 minutes. LOL! Oh, and by the way, there is no way from the bard web site to add magazines to your wish list, so good luck going there on the pc or mac and just putting it there for later download. I might have a work around, but I need to test it before I say what it is. Still though, is anyone else seeing this? This isn't just Bard Mobile either. That was only an example. This is happenning globally across the whole I O S platform regardless the app. Chris. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access
