Re: radium was Re: dropbox

2011-08-29 Thread william lomas
oh ok so it only works with subscription based stations?

On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Joe,
 
 The preferences menu of Radium has three tabs: General, Controls, and 
 Subscriptions.  If you want to access subscriptions, after bringing up the 
 preferences menu either by using Command+comma, which is the general shortcut 
 for accessing preferences in any application, or by navigating to the 
 preferences menu button (VO-Right arrow or Right Flick, if you brought up 
 access to the Radium menu through double tapping the Radium icon in the dock 
 with Trackpad Commander in the dock, or by using the Shift-Command-E shortcut 
 after you enabled it by checking the box in Controls pane of the Preferences 
 menu during a previous session),  then on the Subscriptions tab there is a 
 message To listen to a subscription-only station with Radium, select the 
 desired station and click Edit Subscription.  Navigate to the table listing 
 subscriptions and interact.  Then, after you have chosen the subscription 
 service you want to set up, such as Sirius XM radio, Sirius Internet Radio 
 (Canada),
  X
 M Radio Online (Canada), Last.fm Autoscrobbler, or one of the other services, 
 stop interacting with the table and navigate to the Edit Subscription 
 button. Press the button (e.g. VO-Space, or double tap if you are using 
 Trackpad Commander), then enter your E-mail and password into the text fields 
 in the dialog window, then press the save  button to record your 
 subscription service information.
 
 You can explore the other Preference menu settings for options on how you 
 want to configure the app. For example, you could choose to have it 
 automatically tune in to the last-played channel, or to launch when you login 
 to your account.  
 
 Plus, there are other buttons and shortcuts for the equalizer menu 
 (Command+E), or listening history (Command+I), as well as social networking 
 options that I haven't tried at all.  You can custom add other internet 
 streams, and also request streams to be added. I've only played with the 
 trial version.  I'm really intrigued by the way they managed to get around 
 the accessibility problems of using the status menu bar icon. Apparently the 
 icon is still in the status menu bar, but you don't have to try to navigate 
 to it to get the menu to show up.  The keyboard shortcuts for starting and 
 stopping radium, or the double tap on the radium icon in the dock if you have 
 Trackpad Commander turned on will automatically bring VoiceOver focus to the 
 menu.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 16:57, joe quinn wrote:
 
 how do you access the xm raiod stuff? all i see upon etnering it, is a 
 serach editbox.
 - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: dropbox
 
 
 Hi,
 According to the Dropbox forums, the latest beta (released two days ago), 
 is version 1.2.28, and the Mac version can be downloaded from:
 http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.2.28.dmg
 I believe you have to relaunch Finder after installing a new version of 
 Dropbox.  Either open Terminal (Command-Shift-U, then press t e, and 
 Command-Down arrow to launch), and type:
 killall Finder
 followed by pressing return, or you should be able to do this from the GUI 
 with Command-Option-Escape to bring up the Force Quit window, and select 
 Finder.  If you use the command line in Terminal, I believe that Finder 
 needs to be typed with a capital F, since the unix shell is case 
 sensitive.
 
 Incidentally, on the issue of accessibility of menus from the status bar 
 icon, I was really surprised to find that the Radium program seems to 
 have come up with a solution.  Radium is an internet radio listening 
 program for the Mac that was inaccessible up until the latest version. But 
 the version they released in mid-July announced full support for Universal 
 Access and VoiceOver in the What's New description for version 2.8.1.  
 And the way they set it up, you can either turn on TrackPad Commander and 
 double tap on the Radium icon in the Dock, or if you prefer to use keyboard 
 shortcuts, you can press Command+Comma to bring up the preferences menu 
 when the app is running, and then go to the Controls tab, and check boxes 
 in the table for any of the shortcut keys for controlling the program.  For 
 example, if you check the box for Open/Close Radium, and accept the 
 default shortcut of Shift-Command-E (as in echo), you can afterwards 
 access the control menu by pressin
 g
  S
 hift-Command-E instead of double tapping the Radium icon in the dock with 
 Trackpad Commander turned on.  Basically, either of these methods gives you 
 access to the menu that you would otherwise require navigating to the icon 
 in the status menu bar, that VoiceOver doesn't see, and clicking with 
 mouse or trackpad.  There are a whole slew of shortcuts to control 
 

Re: radium was Re: dropbox

2011-08-29 Thread william lomas
how do we import from iTunes?

On Aug 29, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Will,
 
 Radium is a general internet radio player that also will support 
 subscription-based stations.  Joe was asking how to access the Sirius XM 
 subscription playing.  You can input a specific radio station in the search 
 field, or type in a category to use as a filter.  You can also import 
 stations from iTunes, or from a URL, or contact the developer to add a 
 station if it doesn't show up in your search.  If you find stations that you 
 like, you can mark them as favorites.  You're also supposed to be able to 
 share your songs with Twitter and Facebook, though I haven't used these 
 functions. The ability to also stream subscription radio is an additional 
 feature.
 
 It's a very simple interface -- no library to manage, and just accessed from 
 the menu bar.  And it's all accessible with VoiceOver.  The price at the Mac 
 App store is $25, but if you go to the developer's site, or access it through 
 the Macupdate site, you can download a 30-day free trial version of the 
 program to check out.
 
 For more details, you can read a review about the app at MacStories from 
 April:
 http://www.macstories.net/reviews/radium/
 
 I'll excerpt bits of the review (snipped sections):
 begin quote
 Radium, A Fantastic Internet Radio Application
 
 Radium is one of those apps I fell instantly in love with. So much in fact, 
 it’s gotten me interested in Internet radio again… Sitting in your menubar as 
 an old portable radio, Radium is accessed with either a keyboard shortcut, or 
 by a simple mouse click. I opt for a generous mouse click, which then 
 displays a spotlight-esque menu of available stations. But what you see isn’t 
 necessarily what you get, as there’s so much to be discovered. Typing in a 
 station’s name, or a category like “Jazz” or “Alternative” will filter the 
 results, where you can then use the arrow keys (then the enter key) to make 
 your selection. Everything is incredibly fast and snappy… For station that 
 you’ll fall in love with, you can star it as a favorite…It’s incredibly 
 convenient to have a list of good stations in a single place, instead of 
 scrolling back through previous lists.… Radium’s features go deeper than just 
 your list of Radio stations though. In the preferences, you can establish a 
 myriad of keyboard shortcuts for just about anything, as well as being able 
 to open Radium at login (I suggest you do)…Lastly, I should talk about some 
 advanced features. If you have an XM Radio account, Radium can use your 
 credentials to stream XM Radio right to your desktop. Talk about awesome! For 
 those who have the bandwidth available, you can also have Radium play you 
 higher quality audio. 
 end quote
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 20:47, william lomas wrote:
 
 oh ok so it only works with subscription based stations?
 
 On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Joe,
 
 The preferences menu of Radium has three tabs: General, Controls, and 
 Subscriptions.  If you want to access subscriptions, after bringing up the 
 preferences menu either by using Command+comma, which is the general 
 shortcut for accessing preferences in any application, or by navigating to 
 the preferences menu button (VO-Right arrow or Right Flick, if you 
 brought up access to the Radium menu through double tapping the Radium icon 
 in the dock with Trackpad Commander in the dock, or by using the 
 Shift-Command-E shortcut after you enabled it by checking the box in 
 Controls pane of the Preferences menu during a previous session),  then on 
 the Subscriptions tab there is a message To listen to a 
 subscription-only station with Radium, select the desired station and click 
 Edit Subscription.  Navigate to the table listing subscriptions and 
 interact.  Then, after you have chosen the subscription service you want to 
 set up, such as Sirius XM radio, Sirius Internet Radio (Canada),
 X
 M Radio Online (Canada), Last.fm Autoscrobbler, or one of the other 
 services, stop interacting with the table and navigate to the Edit 
 Subscription button. Press the button (e.g. VO-Space, or double tap if you 
 are using Trackpad Commander), then enter your E-mail and password into the 
 text fields in the dialog window, then press the save  button to record 
 your subscription service information.
 
 You can explore the other Preference menu settings for options on how you 
 want to configure the app. For example, you could choose to have it 
 automatically tune in to the last-played channel, or to launch when you 
 login to your account.  
 
 Plus, there are other buttons and shortcuts for the equalizer menu 
 (Command+E), or listening history (Command+I), as well as social networking 
 options that I haven't tried at all.  You can custom add other internet 
 streams, and also request streams to be added. I've only played with the 
 trial version.  I'm really intrigued by the way they managed to 

radium was Re: dropbox

2011-08-28 Thread joe quinn
how do you access the xm raiod stuff? all i see upon etnering it, is a 
serach editbox.
- Original Message - 
From: Esther mori...@mac.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: dropbox



Hi,
According to the Dropbox forums, the latest beta (released two days ago), 
is version 1.2.28, and the Mac version can be downloaded from:

http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.2.28.dmg
I believe you have to relaunch Finder after installing a new version of 
Dropbox.  Either open Terminal (Command-Shift-U, then press t e, and 
Command-Down arrow to launch), and type:

killall Finder
followed by pressing return, or you should be able to do this from the GUI 
with Command-Option-Escape to bring up the Force Quit window, and select 
Finder.  If you use the command line in Terminal, I believe that Finder 
needs to be typed with a capital F, since the unix shell is case 
sensitive.


Incidentally, on the issue of accessibility of menus from the status bar 
icon, I was really surprised to find that the Radium program seems to 
have come up with a solution.  Radium is an internet radio listening 
program for the Mac that was inaccessible up until the latest version. 
But the version they released in mid-July announced full support for 
Universal Access and VoiceOver in the What's New description for version 
2.8.1.  And the way they set it up, you can either turn on TrackPad 
Commander and double tap on the Radium icon in the Dock, or if you prefer 
to use keyboard shortcuts, you can press Command+Comma to bring up the 
preferences menu when the app is running, and then go to the Controls 
tab, and check boxes in the table for any of the shortcut keys for 
controlling the program.  For example, if you check the box for 
Open/Close Radium, and accept the default shortcut of Shift-Command-E 
(as in echo), you can afterwards access the control menu by pressing S
hift-Command-E instead of double tapping the Radium icon in the dock with 
Trackpad Commander turned on.  Basically, either of these methods gives 
you access to the menu that you would otherwise require navigating to the 
icon in the status menu bar, that VoiceOver doesn't see, and clicking 
with mouse or trackpad.  There are a whole slew of shortcuts to control 
playback, copy information, or links, and you can additionally use the 
media function keys (F7, F8, and F9 to reverse, play/pause, and fast 
forward), or use an Apple Remote, if you check the boxes for these 
functions.  And if you want to change the shortcuts for any of these to 
something more to your own liking, just VO-Space on the shortcut you've 
checked in the table, and type in your new shortcut key combination.


This is really rather slick.  I'm still wondering how they implemented 
this fix, and whether the method can be used by other applications.  If 
you want to try Radium, there's a free trial download you can access at 
the macupdate site that is Lion compatible:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/30468/radium
It's also available from the Mac App store for $25, but no trial download 
through that route.  When you launch the app don't be worried if VoiceOver 
says there are no windows.  Either bring up the app's preferences with 
Command+Comma, then enable the shortcuts in the Control tab so you can 
access the menu with Shift-Command-E (or your own preferred shortcut), or 
else, you can double tap on the Radium icon in the dock with Trackpad 
Commander turned on, which will also open the menu window and switch 
VoiceOver focus there. You're placed in a text field for searching for 
radio stations. You can mark these as favorites, control output speaker 
volume in other locations (if you use an Airport Express), access 
equalizer settings, etc.  Most of the options will be found on a 
preferences menu button that also lets you access the Preferences menu. 
(This is how I actually found the preferences menu with the shortcut 
options -- then I realized that I could have brought this up directl
y without any recourse to Trackpad Commander just by pressing 
Command+Comma.)


For those of you in the U.S. or Canada, radium will also support playing 
your Sirius XM and other such subscriptions.  It also supports last.fm 
scrobbling (another one of those music listening services that I never 
tried before the iOS devices made them accessible -- this suggests other 
listening and music based on the music collections of other listeners with 
your tastes, but is only available in the U.S., U.K., and Germany, and has 
a web site with accessibility issues).


I'm mainly curious about how they put this solution into effect!

Cheers,

Esther


On Aug 28, 2011, at 10:58, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:


Is the current beta on their site?

Lynne

On 28 Aug 2011, at 20:38, Sarah Alawami wrote:

It won't be. Apple has currently taken away the access to the status bar 
icons. I just ran the app and it worked this time when I 

Re: radium was Re: dropbox

2011-08-28 Thread Esther
Hi Joe,

The preferences menu of Radium has three tabs: General, Controls, and 
Subscriptions.  If you want to access subscriptions, after bringing up the 
preferences menu either by using Command+comma, which is the general shortcut 
for accessing preferences in any application, or by navigating to the 
preferences menu button (VO-Right arrow or Right Flick, if you brought up 
access to the Radium menu through double tapping the Radium icon in the dock 
with Trackpad Commander in the dock, or by using the Shift-Command-E shortcut 
after you enabled it by checking the box in Controls pane of the Preferences 
menu during a previous session),  then on the Subscriptions tab there is a 
message To listen to a subscription-only station with Radium, select the 
desired station and click Edit Subscription.  Navigate to the table listing 
subscriptions and interact.  Then, after you have chosen the subscription 
service you want to set up, such as Sirius XM radio, Sirius Internet Radio 
(Canada), X
 M Radio Online (Canada), Last.fm Autoscrobbler, or one of the other services, 
stop interacting with the table and navigate to the Edit Subscription button. 
Press the button (e.g. VO-Space, or double tap if you are using Trackpad 
Commander), then enter your E-mail and password into the text fields in the 
dialog window, then press the save  button to record your subscription 
service information.

You can explore the other Preference menu settings for options on how you want 
to configure the app. For example, you could choose to have it automatically 
tune in to the last-played channel, or to launch when you login to your 
account.  

Plus, there are other buttons and shortcuts for the equalizer menu (Command+E), 
or listening history (Command+I), as well as social networking options that I 
haven't tried at all.  You can custom add other internet streams, and also 
request streams to be added. I've only played with the trial version.  I'm 
really intrigued by the way they managed to get around the accessibility 
problems of using the status menu bar icon. Apparently the icon is still in the 
status menu bar, but you don't have to try to navigate to it to get the menu to 
show up.  The keyboard shortcuts for starting and stopping radium, or the 
double tap on the radium icon in the dock if you have Trackpad Commander turned 
on will automatically bring VoiceOver focus to the menu.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 28, 2011, at 16:57, joe quinn wrote:

 how do you access the xm raiod stuff? all i see upon etnering it, is a serach 
 editbox.
 - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: dropbox
 
 
 Hi,
 According to the Dropbox forums, the latest beta (released two days ago), is 
 version 1.2.28, and the Mac version can be downloaded from:
 http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.2.28.dmg
 I believe you have to relaunch Finder after installing a new version of 
 Dropbox.  Either open Terminal (Command-Shift-U, then press t e, and 
 Command-Down arrow to launch), and type:
 killall Finder
 followed by pressing return, or you should be able to do this from the GUI 
 with Command-Option-Escape to bring up the Force Quit window, and select 
 Finder.  If you use the command line in Terminal, I believe that Finder 
 needs to be typed with a capital F, since the unix shell is case sensitive.
 
 Incidentally, on the issue of accessibility of menus from the status bar 
 icon, I was really surprised to find that the Radium program seems to have 
 come up with a solution.  Radium is an internet radio listening program for 
 the Mac that was inaccessible up until the latest version. But the version 
 they released in mid-July announced full support for Universal Access and 
 VoiceOver in the What's New description for version 2.8.1.  And the way 
 they set it up, you can either turn on TrackPad Commander and double tap on 
 the Radium icon in the Dock, or if you prefer to use keyboard shortcuts, you 
 can press Command+Comma to bring up the preferences menu when the app is 
 running, and then go to the Controls tab, and check boxes in the table for 
 any of the shortcut keys for controlling the program.  For example, if you 
 check the box for Open/Close Radium, and accept the default shortcut of 
 Shift-Command-E (as in echo), you can afterwards access the control menu 
 by pressing
  S
 hift-Command-E instead of double tapping the Radium icon in the dock with 
 Trackpad Commander turned on.  Basically, either of these methods gives you 
 access to the menu that you would otherwise require navigating to the icon 
 in the status menu bar, that VoiceOver doesn't see, and clicking with 
 mouse or trackpad.  There are a whole slew of shortcuts to control playback, 
 copy information, or links, and you can additionally use the media function 
 keys (F7, F8, and F9 to reverse, play/pause, and fast forward), or