Re: Mac Emulators--Which?
on 28/05/2003 10:31 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be nice if it works, on VPC :) Suffered a communal fault on the drive D image, lost legacy again. :( Bummer! Anywho vpc4 is showing its colours, Vmac-dos runs at a very acceptable rate of knots. Startup looks better than booting the classic from the ram disk. You're doing well, I'm having not much luck at all. Time to RTFM I guess. So far I can get DOS-Vmac to crash VPC - I see Welcome to Macintosh (rather broken up) before it hangs. It's back to DOS Doom for me :) I'm using something called System6 and System7 .dsk files for testing. Looks like your going with a sys7.x image? No, I'm using a System 6x disk image in .hfv format - perhaps this is the problem, it's an old image I made with HFV Explorer - works great on Worm, I tried it out today on my PC. Finally read the faq's which explains why I've no mouse in vmac-dos. :) This too, could be part of my problem :) but it seems to be video that is totally screwed, I've since learnt that F10 gets me back to DOS, gracefully. Well vmac kicks worm in the dos department. Sound even (ok, bad sound) I'll try vpc2 and 3 for a speed comparsion and I'll pass you the details. OK; seems you're streaks ahead of me, here. Mike. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Emulators--Which?
on 28/05/2003, Gregg Eshelman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Michael Dawe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have Win 9x set up on VPC. I installed it onto DOS and got the error message that it can't run from DOS. Which is a bit weird, as it runs from the CLI in a DOS window on 9x. My current VPC is used for DOS and WFW 3.11 only (I got the same error message trying to run it in a DOS window from WFW). It's not a DOS program, it's a 32bit console app or a 32bit application that uses the Command Prompt to launch. I see, what a rotten little sod ;) Some 32bit apps always stay in the DOS window, especially older business software that's been ported to the Win32 environment. Still looks like old ASCII or ANSI graphics but it's Windows, baby! Yeah! ;P Won't run under Win 3.1x because that's a 16bit operating environment on top of a 16bit Operating System, DOS. Some Win32 apps will run on 3.1x if you install the 32bit extentions called Win32s. (S is for Subset.) Many Windows apps released in late 1994 though 1995 could run in both 3.1x and 95 though the magic of Win32s. They just didn't make calls to 32bit functions not included with Win32s. I have some great programs, which run happily in both Win 9x and Win 3x with Win32s installed. I was hoping that Worm may have obliged me in this department, too :) Never mind, I can live with that, Worm's not an emulator that I have much time for, other than out of curiosity. Mike -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Emulators--Which?
on 28/05/2003 1:44 PM, MUGWump at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 27/05/2003 10:34 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worm Mike? http://web.archive.org/web/20020208145419/http://www.emaculation.com/other.s ht ml Heh, I haven't looked at Worm for some time. I think I'll install a copy onto VPC for a laff. It should run at least 2x as fast as a real Plus even on VPC :) Let me know what your results are. In my present state of mind, I'll sacrifice capability for ease of installation (to a degree). :-) I think Darren is getting more [positive] results than me at this stage. But with regards to capability over ease of installation; Don't go for Worm, it's a dog's breakfast and no longer under development, - a true case of WYSIWYG. I've heard of people stacking emulator on top of emulator. Just imagine this combination for a laugh; Genuine hardware Macintosh running Real PC, which is running Basilisk II, which is running Bochs, which is running vMac, which is running Soft PC (the original), which is running Worm, on which someone is doing word processing using Microsoft Word 4 (or earlier) for the Mac. Gives me headaches just thinking about it. ROTFL! Me too :) but I have seen screengrabs of nested emulators, running up to about half of the above list. Ouch. Mike -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Emulators--Which?
on 27/05/2003 10:34 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worm Mike? http://web.archive.org/web/20020208145419/http://www.emaculation.com/other.sht ml Ok found it and a couple of others. :) Thanks for the tip. Heh, I haven't looked at Worm for some time. I think I'll install a copy onto VPC for a laff. It should run at least 2x as fast as a real Plus even on VPC :) Mike -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Emulators--Which?
Michael Dawe wrote: Heh, I haven't looked at Worm for some time. I think I'll install a copy onto VPC for a laff. It should run at least 2x as fast as a real Plus even on VPC :) Well on Realpc its workable under win95 but I think the classic runs rings around it. :) Better under vpc, still the classic would beat it. How goes your end? :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
