MacGroup: Re: macgroup-digest V2 #1098

[R. D. Preston]

On Feb 22, 2006, at 6:38 PM, NPfield at aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/22/06 4:15:25 PM, R.D. Preston wrote:
>
>
>> I think I jumped the gun in previous msg.;
>>   what OS are you using where the problem occured?
>>
>
> OS 10.2.8.  (Soon to be OS 10.4.3.   I hope . . .)
>
> NP
>
Nolan,

When you said "ancient OS", it passed over my head; I thought maybe  
the first msg.
  was premature, since it referenced Mac help, as I had system X in  
mind.  And so then,
  in case you missed it...

"Root" user is different from "Admin." user.
In Mac Help, search on "root" and find "Enabling the root user", as  
well as
  a supporting article on the same subject.
Take notice of expressed cautions before you decide to proceed.
  Again, use extreme CAUTION if you try it.

  I accomplished something similar with no problems, as long as I did  
what I needed
   (enable and login as 'root', then empty the trash), got out of  
'root', then logged back
  in as my normal user name, with no detours.

Regards,
Russ Preston
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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[mikewatk]

Jerry,
I checked Safari, and sure enough... the Open "safe" files item was 
checked. I unchecked it. Thanks for warning us, against I'm not sure 
what. I just know you are smarter than I am about these things!
Mike


On Feb 21, 2006, at 10:56 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> If you are a Safari user, open your Preferences and click on the 
> General tab. There is an option to allow you to Open "safe" files 
> after downloading. A while back it was recommended that you leave this 
> unchecked, but there have been several upgrades to Safari and it may 
> have inadvertently gotten turned back on.
>
> IF it is checked 'on', turn it back off for a while (uncheck it).
>
> There is a new way of web-sites taking advantage of your visit to 
> download a type of shell file that can compromise your system. Apple 
> should be releasing a fix soon, like they did before (the new exploit 
> is a version of the previous one -- just taking advantage of a slight 
> error that Apple did not catch last time).
>
> For more info:
> http://secunia.com/mac_os_x_command_execution_vulnerability_test/
>
>
> Note: this is more of an OS-X issue than a Safari issue. Make sure 
> that if you use FireFox or Camino or whatnot you take similar 
> precautions.
> Extra note: This is still NOT a virus! But it is something to be aware 
> of.
> Extra extra note: I apologize for ending the previous sentence that 
> way :^)
>
>   Jerry
>
> ---
> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if 
> I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. In the mean time 
> this next one will have to do:
>
> 
> 'W' Is for wiretap and a little more...
>
>
>
>



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MacGroup: Browsers

[George H.Yankey]

Bernie,
  We were finally successful in sending  our eFile to IRS.  What we did 
was call BellSouth,  had them disable their firewall block,  we  filed, 
  then  had BellSouth  reinstall their firewall .  It worked out OK.
George
On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Bernard Griffis wrote:

> George H.Yankey wrote:
>
>> Bernie, I hope you have better luck this year than we have had. We 
>> are still trying to find our problem.
>> George
>>
>> George, I made a fresh start, through the IRS efile site, still using 
>> TurboTax and I was successfull. I used a different ID and PIN number. 
>> It took about 4 days to receive an all clear approval from Kentucky. 
>> I was given an opportunity to print through Adobe and this worked 
>> very well.  Good luck, Bernie
>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
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MacGroup: Re: macgroup-digest V2 #1098

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

In a message dated 2/22/06 4:15:25 PM, R.D. Preston wrote:


> I think I jumped the gun in previous msg.;
> ? what OS are you using where the problem occured?
> 
> 
OS 10.2.8.   (Soon to be OS 10.4.3.I hope . . .)

NP 

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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[Jerry Yeager]

On Feb 22, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Lee Larson wrote:

> On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:52 AM, RobK wrote:
>
>> If you need some frustrating entertainment, go to Google News and  
>> follow the OSX virus link. There are 45 related stories (as of  
>> this morning) relating the doom and gloom for Apple now that it's  
>> inundated with viruses.
>
> The most disheartening thing about all this press is that perhaps  
> the most dangerous Windows flaw ever discovered appeared during  
> January: the Windows Meta File exploit [1]. It got almost no press,  
> even though it was apparently put into Windows on purpose by  
> Microsoft as a hack to make up for some design limitations with  
> printer drivers. People are so used to devastating worms under  
> Windows that they just view them as another cost of doing business.
>
> [1] <http://news.com.com/Windows+flaw+spawns+dozens+of+attacks/ 
> 2100-7349_3-6016140.html>
>

It gets worse ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4713018.stm


>
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---
Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure  
if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. In the mean  
time this next one will have to do:

U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,  
papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,  
shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable  
cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing  
the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.



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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[Lee Larson]

On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:52 AM, RobK wrote:

> If you need some frustrating entertainment, go to Google News and  
> follow the OSX virus link. There are 45 related stories (as of this  
> morning) relating the doom and gloom for Apple now that it's  
> inundated with viruses.

The most disheartening thing about all this press is that perhaps the  
most dangerous Windows flaw ever discovered appeared during January:  
the Windows Meta File exploit [1]. It got almost no press, even  
though it was apparently put into Windows on purpose by Microsoft as  
a hack to make up for some design limitations with printer drivers.  
People are so used to devastating worms under Windows that they just  
view them as another cost of doing business.

[1] 


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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[Jerry Yeager]

On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:52 AM, RobK wrote:

> According to ZDNet:
>
> "Users of alternative browsers such as Firefox and Camino on the  
> Mac are not exposed to the Web-based attack vector, experts said."
>

I am going to be a bit cautious on this claim because the exploit is  
aimed at how OS-X handles the shell scripts that are handed off to  
it, not at Safari or Mail per-se.


> If you need some frustrating entertainment, go to Google News and  
> follow the OSX virus link. There are 45 related stories (as of this  
> morning) relating the doom and gloom for Apple now that it's  
> inundated with viruses.
>

Guess Apple will just have to move to AMD or back ti IBM for those  
processors, huh :^).

Jerry

>
> Jerry Yeager wrote:
>
>> If you are a Safari user, open your Preferences and click on the   
>> General tab. There is an option to allow you to Open "safe" files   
>> after downloading. A while back it was recommended that you leave   
>> this unchecked, but there have been several upgrades to Safari and  
>> it  may have inadvertently gotten turned back on.
>>
>> IF it is checked 'on', turn it back off for a while (uncheck it).
>>
>> There is a new way of web-sites taking advantage of your visit to   
>> download a type of shell file that can compromise your system.  
>> Apple  should be releasing a fix soon, like they did before (the  
>> new exploit  is a version of the previous one -- just taking  
>> advantage of a slight  error that Apple did not catch last time).
>>
>> For more info:
>> http://secunia.com/mac_os_x_command_execution_vulnerability_test/
>>
>>
>> Note: this is more of an OS-X issue than a Safari issue. Make  
>> sure  that if you use FireFox or Camino or whatnot you take  
>> similar  precautions.
>> Extra note: This is still NOT a virus! But it is something to be   
>> aware of.
>> Extra extra note: I apologize for ending the previous sentence  
>> that  way :^)
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> ---
>> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not  
>> sure  if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. In the  
>> mean  time this next one will have to do:
>>
>> 
>> 'W' Is for wiretap and a little more...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be February 28  at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
> | The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>

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Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure  
if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one.



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MacGroup: Browsers

[Bernard Griffis]

George H.Yankey wrote:

> Bernie, I hope you have better luck this year than we have had. We are 
> still trying to find our problem.
> George
>
> George, I made a fresh start, through the IRS efile site, still using 
> TurboTax and I was successfull. I used a different ID and PIN number. 
> It took about 4 days to receive an all clear approval from Kentucky. I 
> was given an opportunity to print through Adobe and this worked very 
> well.  Good luck, Bernie




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MacGroup: b3 Best Camcorder

[Jerry Freeman]

Scroll down [1] PMA announcements will lower the prices on 05  
inventory, keep your eyes open for deals...jf

[1] http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/CamInfo-Select-2005.htm
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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[Rex Baldazo]

Just thought I'd mention on News.com urls you don't actually need to
include the path.  Our publishing platform actually only cares about the
numbers at the end, the path is strictly for Google optimization (pages
rank slightly better on Google results when keywords appear in the path
as well as in the article itself).  So the url you gave below:

http://news.com.com/Windows+flaw+spawns+dozens+of+attacks/2100-7349_3-60
16140.html

can actually be shortened to this:

http://news.com.com/2100-7349_3-6016140.html

You could in fact insert whatever (url-encoded) string you want into the
path:

http://news.com.com/I+love+Louisville/2100-7349_3-6016140.html

--- Rex.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Lee
Larson
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:19 PM
To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:52 AM, RobK wrote:

> If you need some frustrating entertainment, go to Google News and 
> follow the OSX virus link. There are 45 related stories (as of this
> morning) relating the doom and gloom for Apple now that it's inundated

> with viruses.

The most disheartening thing about all this press is that perhaps the
most dangerous Windows flaw ever discovered appeared during January:  
the Windows Meta File exploit [1]. It got almost no press, even though
it was apparently put into Windows on purpose by Microsoft as a hack to
make up for some design limitations with printer drivers.  
People are so used to devastating worms under Windows that they just
view them as another cost of doing business.

[1] 


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MacGroup: QT Guitar Lessons

[Marta Edie]

I keep wondering whether JF has  been granted more hours in the day by 
the Lord just to give information to this group.
Maybe I should have him  research the problem i am facing with my RAZR 
phone and iBook  compatibility. I have been driving t-mobile - 
Motorola- and apple support crazy , since when bringing my Address book 
from Apple mail into the RAZR phone via bluetooth,  the alphabetical 
order in the device is according to first rather than last names. 
Everything is just dandy, the date book ( haven't tried photos) and 
updates are fine, also the addresses all appear like by magic, except 
that they are alphabetized according to first name;. not all my more 
than 200 contacts are buddies of mine whose first names I know. - If 
there is only the last name - it appears accordingly. So somewhere in 
the transfer something is taking a somersault. Is it on Apple's side, 
as Motorola will tell me, or is it on the motorola or even t-mobile as  
Apple's  did not quite tell me ( a nice gesture not to push the blame), 
but we gave up after an hour's fiddling since fatigue set in.  - There 
will be a bottle of wine for the one to figure this one out.
Marta

On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:51, Profile wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> Every so often I have to thank you for all your support of this group, 
> you are like a Genie in a bottle, coming out to grant the wish of 
> those that stroke the urn.  You are amazing and hopefully if you ever 
> do take a vacation you will take the laptop to keep your "children" at 
> peace in the Kingdom at your absence.
>
>
> John R.
>
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Jerry Freeman wrote:
>
>> iCompositions is a GarageBand site?requires registration?that has 
>> lots of free loops and some decent [1] QT guitar lessons. I bought 
>> one of those Estaban [2] guitars off the TV infomercial?excellent for 
>> the money. Gives me an alternative to sucking my thumb when I'm 
>> frustrated with Photoshop...jf
>>
>> [1] http://www.icompositions.com/site/tour/guitarlessons/
>> [2] http://www.estabanguitar.com/?gclid=CO7T4ru2rIMCFR8MGgodW0pdFg
>
>
>
>
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MacGroup: QT Guitar Lessons

[Profile]

Jerry,

Every so often I have to thank you for all your support of this  
group, you are like a Genie in a bottle, coming out to grant the wish  
of those that stroke the urn.  You are amazing and hopefully if you  
ever do take a vacation you will take the laptop to keep your  
"children" at peace in the Kingdom at your absence.


John R.



On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Jerry Freeman wrote:

> iCompositions is a GarageBand site?requires registration?that has  
> lots of free loops and some decent [1] QT guitar lessons. I bought  
> one of those Estaban [2] guitars off the TV infomercial?excellent  
> for the money. Gives me an alternative to sucking my thumb when I'm  
> frustrated with Photoshop...jf
>
> [1] http://www.icompositions.com/site/tour/guitarlessons/
> [2] http://www.estabanguitar.com/?gclid=CO7T4ru2rIMCFR8MGgodW0pdFg




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MacGroup: QT Guitar Lessons

[Jerry Freeman]

iCompositions is a GarageBand site?requires registration?that has  
lots of free loops and some decent [1] QT guitar lessons. I bought  
one of those Estaban [2] guitars off the TV infomercial?excellent for  
the money. Gives me an alternative to sucking my thumb when I'm  
frustrated with Photoshop...jf

[1] http://www.icompositions.com/site/tour/guitarlessons/
[2] http://www.estabanguitar.com/?gclid=CO7T4ru2rIMCFR8MGgodW0pdFg
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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[Jerry Freeman]

It's worthwhile to check crucial settings after any Apple upgrade,  
and Safari upgrades specifically, some Preference seems to get  
broken. Why?because they are computers rather than appliances?is the  
only thought I can come up with...jf

On Feb 22, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Marta Edie wrote:

> Thanks, Jerry, mine was turned on, although it was not some time  
> ago. General question : How come so many little things all of a  
> sudden grace your computer of which you have no idea how they  
> appeared and may change the layout  or require you to do some click  
> or whatever, without  you ever doing anything, or, if you  upgrade  
> something,  you are never explained those additional changes that  
> occur on top of the ones the upgrade is made for. Marta
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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[Marta Edie]

Thanks, Jerry, mine was turned on, although it was not some time ago. 
General question : How come so many little things all of a sudden grace 
your computer of which you have no idea how they appeared and may 
change the layout  or require you to do some click or whatever, without 
  you ever doing anything, or, if you  upgrade something,  you are never 
explained those additional changes that occur on top of the ones the 
upgrade is made for.
Marta

On Feb 21, 2006, at 22:56, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> If you are a Safari user, open your Preferences and click on the 
> General tab. There is an option to allow you to Open "safe" files 
> after downloading. A while back it was recommended that you leave this 
> unchecked, but there have been several upgrades to Safari and it may 
> have inadvertently gotten turned back on.
>
> IF it is checked 'on', turn it back off for a while (uncheck it).
>
> There is a new way of web-sites taking advantage of your visit to 
> download a type of shell file that can compromise your system. Apple 
> should be releasing a fix soon, like they did before (the new exploit 
> is a version of the previous one -- just taking advantage of a slight 
> error that Apple did not catch last time).
>
> For more info:
> http://secunia.com/mac_os_x_command_execution_vulnerability_test/
>
>
> Note: this is more of an OS-X issue than a Safari issue. Make sure 
> that if you use FireFox or Camino or whatnot you take similar 
> precautions.
> Extra note: This is still NOT a virus! But it is something to be aware 
> of.
> Extra extra note: I apologize for ending the previous sentence that 
> way :^)
>
>   Jerry
>
> ---
> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if 
> I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. In the mean time 
> this next one will have to do:
>
> 
> 'W' Is for wiretap and a little more...
>
>
>
>



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MacGroup: Handy web site

[Robert Klein]

Check out this site for information about email headers:

http://www.stopspam.org/email/headers.html

Robert




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MacGroup: A Look At OS X Secuity Threats

[RobK]

Great commentary at Wired News

http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70257-0.html?tw=wn_index_5


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MacGroup: Problem for Safari Users

[RobK]

According to ZDNet:

"Users of alternative browsers such as Firefox and Camino on the Mac are 
not exposed to the Web-based attack vector, experts said."

If you need some frustrating entertainment, go to Google News and follow 
the OSX virus link. There are 45 related stories (as of this morning) 
relating the doom and gloom for Apple now that it's inundated with viruses.


Jerry Yeager wrote:

> If you are a Safari user, open your Preferences and click on the  
> General tab. There is an option to allow you to Open "safe" files  
> after downloading. A while back it was recommended that you leave  
> this unchecked, but there have been several upgrades to Safari and it  
> may have inadvertently gotten turned back on.
>
> IF it is checked 'on', turn it back off for a while (uncheck it).
>
> There is a new way of web-sites taking advantage of your visit to  
> download a type of shell file that can compromise your system. Apple  
> should be releasing a fix soon, like they did before (the new exploit  
> is a version of the previous one -- just taking advantage of a slight  
> error that Apple did not catch last time).
>
> For more info:
> http://secunia.com/mac_os_x_command_execution_vulnerability_test/
>
>
> Note: this is more of an OS-X issue than a Safari issue. Make sure  
> that if you use FireFox or Camino or whatnot you take similar  
> precautions.
> Extra note: This is still NOT a virus! But it is something to be  
> aware of.
> Extra extra note: I apologize for ending the previous sentence that  
> way :^)
>
> Jerry
>
> ---
> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure  
> if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. In the mean  
> time this next one will have to do:
>
> 
> 'W' Is for wiretap and a little more...
>
>
>
>


| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be February 28  at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
| The LCS Web page is .
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