Fwd: Re: MacPort: how to port perl?

2008-09-10 Thread Stephen M. Harris
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From: Stephen M. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: MacPort: how to port perl?


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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Vic Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: September 9, 2008 9:24:09 PM EDT
 To: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Perl MacOSX macosx@perl.org
 Subject: Re: MacPort: how to port perl?

 I'm not sure what this proves, David. I've tried your trick 3 times and
 gotten three different answers. And I don't think PERL5LIB has anything to
 do with any of them.

 ### Test 1 ###
 vic$ /usr/bin/perl -e '$,=\n;print @INC,\n;'
 /System/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /System/Library/Perl/5.8.6
 /Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /Library/Perl/5.8.6
 /Library/Perl
 /Network/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /Network/Library/Perl/5.8.6
 /Network/Library/Perl
 /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.6
 /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /Library/Perl/5.8.1
 .

 ### Test 2 ###
 vic$ /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 -e '$,=\n;print @INC,\n;'
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/darwin-2level
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/darwin-2level
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
 .

 ### Test 3 ###
 vic$ /opt/local/bin/perl -e '$,=\n;print @INC,\n;'
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/darwin-2level
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/darwin-2level
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/darwin-2level
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8
 /opt/local/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
 .

 Modules from MacPorts like Cript::SSLeay appear in the vendor_perl folder
 of /opt/local/lib/perl5.

 Regards,

 Vic

 On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:07 AM, David Cantrell wrote:

  On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 06:23:13PM -0400, Vic Norton wrote:

  As far as I can tell Perl on a Mac pays absolutely no attention the
 environmental variable PERL5LIB.


 I'm afraid that's not the case:

 cowshed-door:~ david$ /usr/bin/perl -e '$,=\n;print @INC'
 /sw/lib/perl5
 /sw/lib/perl5/darwin
 /System/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /System/Library/Perl/5.8.6
 /Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /Library/Perl/5.8.6
 /Library/Perl
 /Network/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /Network/Library/Perl/5.8.6
 /Network/Library/Perl
 /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level
 /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.6
 /Library/Perl/5.8.1






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Re: Re: Can't find Mac::Growl

2008-09-10 Thread Stephen M. Harris
*GET ME OFF THIS GODDAM LIST*!!!

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Stephen M. Harris
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 Begin forwarded message:

  From: David Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: September 9, 2008 1:57:57 PM EDT
 To: Doug McNutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: macosx@perl.org
 Subject: Re: Can't find Mac::Growl

 OK, going back to fundamental issue, what or why is this failing or me (it
 failed the same first time, which is why I tried the 'force' :-); I am using
 standard Tiger v5.8.6 of Perl:

  cpan force install Mac::Growl
 CPAN: Storable loaded ok
 Going to read /Users/dgringo/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Sun, 20 Jan 2008 02:39:47 GMT
 Running install for module Mac::Growl
 Running make for C/CN/CNANDOR/Mac-Growl-0.67.tar.gz
 CPAN: Digest::MD5 loaded ok
 CPAN: Compress::Zlib loaded ok
 Checksum for
 /Users/dgringo/.cpan/sources/authors/id/C/CN/CNANDOR/Mac-Growl-0.67.tar.gz
 ok
 Scanning cache /Users/dgringo/.cpan/build for sizes
 Mac-Growl-0.67/
 Mac-Growl-0.67/Changes
 Mac-Growl-0.67/lib/
 Mac-Growl-0.67/lib/Mac/
 Mac-Growl-0.67/lib/Mac/Glue/
 Mac-Growl-0.67/lib/Mac/Glue/glues/
 Mac-Growl-0.67/lib/Mac/Glue/glues/GrowlHelperApp
 Mac-Growl-0.67/lib/Mac/Glue/glues/GrowlHelperApp.pod
 Mac-Growl-0.67/lib/Mac/Growl.pm
 Mac-Growl-0.67/Makefile.PL
 Mac-Growl-0.67/MANIFEST
 Mac-Growl-0.67/README
 Mac-Growl-0.67/t/
 Mac-Growl-0.67/t/Mac-Growl.t
 Removing previously used /Users/dgringo/.cpan/build/Mac-Growl-0.67

  CPAN.pm: Going to build C/CN/CNANDOR/Mac-Growl-0.67.tar.gz

 Checking if your kit is complete...
 Looks good
 Writing Makefile for Mac::Growl
 make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
  /usr/bin/make  -- NOT OK
 Running make test
  Can't test without successful make
 Running make install
  make had returned bad status, install seems impossible

 cpan







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Re: GET ME OFF THIS GODDAM LIST!

2008-09-10 Thread Vic Norton
If you look at the headers of any message you've received from the  
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I suggest you try the third address and quit whining.

- Vic

On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Stephen M. Harris wrote:


-- Forwarded message --
From: Stephen M. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: MacPort: how to port perl?


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Re: MacPort: how to port perl?

2008-09-10 Thread Vic Norton
I guess you are right, Charlie. Apparently each of 3 Perls in my  
system has it's own PERLIB, but a PERL5LIB specification in  
~/.bashprofile will add directories to any of the 3 corresponding  
@INC's.


On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:32 PM, Charlie Garrison wrote:


Good afternoon,

On 9/9/08 at 9:24 PM -0400, Vic Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not sure what this proves, David. I've tried your trick 3  
times and gotten three different answers. And I don't think  
PERL5LIB has anything to do with any of them.


What is the value of your PERL5LIB? From your perl output we can  
see the defaults for @INC, but without knowing the value of  
PERL5LIB it's hard to draw any conclusions.


My experience matches David's; the PERL5LIB variable does work as  
advertised.



Charlie




Re: guilty w/explanation - GET ME OFF THIS GODDAM LIST!

2008-09-10 Thread Stephen M. Harris
Whining, cussing, whatever it is, I agree I should not have done it,  
but I have been trying to un-perl myself for four - count 'em -  
years, starting (many times) with the unsubscribe link, which I have  
just tried again.


Exasperation isn't pretty,  but I mean, you guys are code writers,  
right? What gives?



On Sep 10, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Vic Norton wrote:

If you look at the headers of any message you've received from the  
list, you will see

List-Post:  mailto:macosx@perl.org
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I suggest you try the third address and quit whining.

- Vic

On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Stephen M. Harris wrote:


-- Forwarded message --
From: Stephen M. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: MacPort: how to port perl?


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Stephen M. Harris



RE: guilty w/explanation - GET ME OFF THIS GODDAM LIST!

2008-09-10 Thread Jan Dubois
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Stephen M. Harris wrote:
 
 Whining, cussing, whatever it is, I agree I should not have done it,
 but I have been trying to un-perl myself for four - count 'em -
 years, starting (many times) with the unsubscribe link, which I have
 just tried again.

If the unsubscribe link isn't working, then maybe you are not subscribed
to the mailing list using your current email address.  I suspect you
subscribed many years ago using a different address.  When you changed
email addresses, instead of unsubscribing from mailing lists with your
old address and re-subscribing with the new one, you just set up email
forwarding from the old address and forgot about the whole thing.

To unsubscribe you will have to use this old email address again.  Try
looking at the headers again to see if you find some hint of an older
address of yours.   E.g. something like this:

  Received: from lists.develooper.com (x6.develooper.com [63.251.223.186])
by mx.activestate.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EF65150002
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The last line should show the actual subscription address.  Or look at
the return path:

  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can see that the mailing list manager has encoded the subscriber
email address in there as well (to detect bounces and email loops).

Cheers,
-Jan