Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-17 Thread David H. Adler 
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:07:33PM -0600, Lorin Rivers wrote:
> 
> Talking about PERL, folks.

No, that would be Perl or perl.  See perlfaq1

Although, now that I think of it, does Inline::PERL work on OS X?

;-)  <---given the length and nature of this thread PLEASE NOTE SMILEY.

dha, also thinks this has been beaten to death.

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Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-17 Thread Lorin Rivers 
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Mike Schienle wrote:
Perhaps this quote will help you understand Randal's response.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up 
because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I 
didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade 
unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. 
Then they came for Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a 
Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to 
speak up."

Protestant minister Martin Neimoller, reflecting on Germany’s fall to 
the Nazis

Maybe that will help you reconsider if the reprimand was justified.
YES! The Nazi Reference! YAY! We've now proven one of the rules of a 
flame war, please continue!

Talking about PERL, folks.

Everyone, please take a very deep breath, and try to assume that other 
people are just as lovely people as you are, and aren't trying very, 
very hard to offend you.

HUMOR, it's great. Poking gentle fun at Mighty Figures and Saints -- 
it's good for you.
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Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-17 Thread Lou Moran 
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 04:56 PM, Mike Schienle wrote:

Perhaps this quote will help you understand Randal's response.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up 
because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I 
didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they
And this thread has just stepped into the Twilight Zone.  I can't help 
but think there's a NAZI in Hell right now saying "Hey, wait a minute!"
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Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-16 Thread Charlie Root 
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 06:52 PM, Lou Moran wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 04:56 PM, Mike Schienle wrote:
Perhaps this quote will help you understand Randal's response.
"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up 
because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I 
didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they

And this thread has just stepped into the Twilight Zone.  I can't help 
but think there's a NAZI in Hell right now saying "Hey, wait a minute!"

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Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-16 Thread Mike Schienle 
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 03:11  PM, Geoffrey F. Green wrote:

On 3/16/03 4:56 PM, "Mike Schienle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Protestant minister Martin Neimoller, reflecting on Germany’s fall to
the Nazis
Maybe that will help you reconsider if the reprimand was justified.
Now I'm offended.  Jews subjugated by the Nazis.  Tim O'Reilly called 
"Tim O
Really."  Not equivalent in my mind.
The point is that Randal spoke up for Tim, who wasn't present. Puneet 
said he would only accept a reprimand from Tim. Not intended to be 
equivalent, but the reason for not excusing bad behavior ought to be 
clear.

Mike Schienle

Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-16 Thread Kay Roepke 
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 11:15  PM, Rich Morin wrote:

At 2:56 PM -0700 3/16/03, Mike Schienle wrote:
Perhaps this quote will help you understand Randal's response.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, ..."

Protestant minister Martin Neimoller, reflecting on Germany's fall
to the Nazis
IIRC, a reference to Nazis is a definitive reason for closing a thread.
Please consider Reply-To: misc.test as set.

This is getting ridiculous guys.

Kay

Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-16 Thread Rich Morin 
At 2:56 PM -0700 3/16/03, Mike Schienle wrote:
Perhaps this quote will help you understand Randal's response.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, ..."

Protestant minister Martin Neimoller, reflecting on Germany's fall
to the Nazis
IIRC, a reference to Nazis is a definitive reason for closing a thread.

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Re: OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-16 Thread Geoffrey F. Green 
On 3/16/03 4:56 PM, "Mike Schienle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn¹t speak up
> because I wasn¹t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn¹t
> speak up because I wasn¹t a Jew. Then they came for the trade
> unionists, and I didn¹t speak up because I wasn¹t a trade unionist.
> Then they came for Catholics, and I didn¹t speak up because I was a
> Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to
> speak up."
> 
> Protestant minister Martin Neimoller, reflecting on Germany¹s fall to
> the Nazis
> 
> Maybe that will help you reconsider if the reprimand was justified.

Now I'm offended.  Jews subjugated by the Nazis.  Tim O'Reilly called "Tim O
Really."  Not equivalent in my mind.

Now, if there is some history to Tim O'Reilly being called by that other
name or any other name, then please enlighten me, so I can understand the
outrage.  Is it somehow insulting, and by that I mean more insulting than
just being a not really that clever play on his name?[1]  I can certainly
understand people wanting to be called by their given names, and I don't
have any problem with people making efforts to reinforce that point.  But
otherwise, I just don't get the strong feelings this has engendered, nor why
this is being compared to standing up for the the Jews in Nazi Germany.

 - geoff 

[1] I did a search for "tim oh really" on Google, and came up with
plays/dialogues in which a character named Tim says "Oh really?"

OT: Re: please end this (Re: A .. by anyother name...)

2003-03-16 Thread Mike Schienle 
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 11:05  AM, Puneet Kishor wrote:

2. I did not mean any disrespect to Tim. Now I realize that some can 
be offended by it, however, I would feel justifiably reprimanded 
_only_ if the reprimand came from Tim. Many folks on this list had 
harsh words for me, directly or indirectly, even though I did nothing 
to besmirch their name or character. I never said any unkind words to 
any of you.
Perhaps this quote will help you understand Randal's response.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up 
because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t 
speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade 
unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. 
Then they came for Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a 
Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to 
speak up."

Protestant minister Martin Neimoller, reflecting on Germany’s fall to 
the Nazis

Maybe that will help you reconsider if the reprimand was justified.

5. I made the original posting on the list, not to any one person 
privately. All responses to that should be made to the list.
I disagree with your interpretation of netiquette, and this is not 
being sent privately solely for that reason.

Mike Schienle