Re: browser compatibility (was Re: new to unix: basic help)

2002-12-15 Thread Riccardo Perotti
Thank you guys for all your suggestions.

After (not) much though, I decided that the best thing to do is was to skip
the browser detection all together, since it really just boils down to the
size of the center frame, which is not as mission critical as it was when I
wrote this page (to tell the truth, I didn't really notice a big difference
anymore!).

...and sorry for taking this list so off-topic ...

kindest regards,

Riccardo


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Re: browser compatibility (was Re: new to unix: basic help)

2002-12-15 Thread Chris Devers
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Riccardo Perotti wrote:

 ...and sorry for taking this list so off-topic ...

Nah, don't worry about it -- at least you didn't bring up Python :)

...zope zope zope zope zope... :)



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Re: browser compatibility (was Re: new to unix: basic help)

2002-12-14 Thread Rich Michaela


Riccardo Perotti wrote:

 What would be the correct Chimera detection scheeme?

Check out:

http://www.webreference.com/tools/browser/javascript.html

Nothing Chimera specific, but can detect Gecko based browsers. Can also
detect Flash plug-in and version.




Re: browser compatibility (was Re: new to unix: basic help)

2002-12-14 Thread Chris Devers
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Riccardo Perotti wrote:

 What would be the correct Chimera detection scheeme?

As part of the family of browsers using the Gecko engine (with others
being Mozilla, Netscape 6+, Phoenix, and Galeon), I would think that any
attempt to get your pages to display well on $gecko should work well for
all of them, since they all use the same core software to display pages.

Better still, go browser agnostic, and let the user visit with whatever
kind of web client she chooses -- traditional (IE, Netscape, Opera),
low-fi (lynx, links, w3m, wget, telnet $site 80), or beyond (Palm Pilot /
AvantGo, cell phone browser, braille screen reader, etc).

But that's a whole other rant, isn't it? :)


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Re: browser compatibility (was Re: new to unix: basic help)

2002-12-14 Thread Puneet Kishor
Riccardo,

Dunno what the correct Chimera detection scheme would be, but Apache 
recognizes Chimera as

Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.1) 
Gecko/20021104 Chimera/0.6

That said, others have responded with better suggestions on 
cross-browser compatibility.

In the end, it is up to you to cater to whatever browsers you want to 
cater to. Personally, I worry about IE and Netscape/Mozilla, but then, 
most of my applications are for controlled environments (that is, 
client intranets), so the users can be dictated to -- thou shalt use 
so-and-so browser or we won't give a fig about so-and-so browser. 
That does make things easy ;-).

Frankly, all this browser incompatibility is nonsense, and both M$ and 
Netscape should be taken to the backalley and #$@%.

but, that _is_ another topic, for perhaps another list.

Thanks for TierraDeLuz.mp3. Nice.

Puneet.


On Saturday, December 14, 2002, at 05:24  PM, Riccardo Perotti wrote:

On 12/14/2002 5:33 PM, Puneet Kishor wrote:


doesn't work in Chimera. I checked your source code -- you really need
to make it compatible with browsers other than

if (NN4) {
..

else if (IE4) {
..

Sooner or later Chimera is gonna become a majorly ubiquitous browser 
on
the Mac. You can easily write a server side script in perl to generate
all that stuff for different browsers.

Puneet.


Thanks. I guess I should.

What would be the correct Chimera detection scheeme?

Riccardo
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