Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Glenn Carnagey
If the link is to an mp3, doesn't page source option just save the mp3?  I 
think it is the QT plugin, on windows QT opens the mp3 by itself in a browser 
window and then you can save it with save as source.

g./




On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote:

 
 On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:36 PM, st...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 on 2011-10-01 22:27 Kevin Callahan wrote
 
 On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:26 PM, objectwerks inc wrote:
 You can't right-click and choose save file or download file or whatever it 
 is
 called?
 
 yes, but when you do, you have 2 choices:
 
 
 Web archive
 Page source
 
 how about option-click?
 
 doesn't seem to work 
 
 could do it in Snow Leopard .. 
 but I can't recall if that had to do with QT plugin or not
 
 QTX may be the culprit
 
 
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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Kevin Callahan

On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Glenn Carnagey wrote:

 If the link is to an mp3, doesn't page source option just save the mp3?  I 
 think it is the QT plugin, on windows QT opens the mp3 by itself in a browser 
 window and then you can save it with save as source.
 
 g./

you get a failure:

The document “filename.mp3” could not be exported as “ filename.mp3”. 


 
 
 
 
 On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:36 PM, st...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 on 2011-10-01 22:27 Kevin Callahan wrote
 
 On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:26 PM, objectwerks inc wrote:
 You can't right-click and choose save file or download file or whatever 
 it is
 called?
 
 yes, but when you do, you have 2 choices:
 
 
 Web archive
 Page source
 
 how about option-click?
 
 doesn't seem to work 
 
 could do it in Snow Leopard .. 
 but I can't recall if that had to do with QT plugin or not
 
 QTX may be the culprit
 
 
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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Macs R We

On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:

 
 On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Glenn Carnagey wrote:
 
 If the link is to an mp3, doesn't page source option just save the mp3?  I 
 think it is the QT plugin, on windows QT opens the mp3 by itself in a 
 browser window and then you can save it with save as source.
 
 g./
 
 you get a failure:
 
 The document “filename.mp3” could not be exported as “ filename.mp3”. 

Once again, a specific URL that exhibits this behavior would be REALLY helpful.

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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Jared Earle
http://23x.co.uk/test/sae.mp3

Try with that.

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:


 On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:

 
  On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Glenn Carnagey wrote:
 
  If the link is to an mp3, doesn't page source option just save the
 mp3?  I think it is the QT plugin, on windows QT opens the mp3 by itself in
 a browser window and then you can save it with save as source.
 
  g./
 
  you get a failure:
 
  The document “filename.mp3” could not be exported as “ filename.mp3”. 

 Once again, a specific URL that exhibits this behavior would be REALLY
 helpful.

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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Lawrence Sica

On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Jared Earle wrote:

 http://23x.co.uk/test/sae.mp3
 
 Try with that. 

Oh interesting.  I guess it makes sense from one perspective if annoying.  This 
might be a job for an extension!   *dusts off safari extension documentation*

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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Arno Hautala
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:41, Jared Earle jea...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://23x.co.uk/test/sae.mp3

Option click didn't work, but the contextual menu option to Download
linked file was fine.

There's also the route of copy link, use curl.

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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Jared Earle
All good options, but Kevin is quite right in assuming it should simply be
easier. What if it used a JavaScript to open the page? The right-click
option is gone then. What if it used a cookie to authenticate? The curl
option is gone then, too.

It should be easier and not require a work-around.

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 On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:41, Jared Earle jea...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://23x.co.uk/test/sae.mp3

 Option click didn't work, but the contextual menu option to Download
 linked file was fine.

 There's also the route of copy link, use curl.

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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Arno Hautala
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:07, Jared Earle jea...@gmail.com wrote:

 It should be easier and not require a work-around.

Absolutely.

There are several regressions like this with Lion and they're my
biggest complaints about the new OS. The other that jumps to mind is
how the preview pane in column view no longer has the disclosure
triangle for the actual file preview. That's a huge pain with network
file systems.

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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Kevin Callahan


On Oct 2, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Lawrence Sica wrote:

 
 On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Jared Earle wrote:
 
 http://23x.co.uk/test/sae.mp3
 
 Try with that. 
 
 Oh interesting.  I guess it makes sense from one perspective if annoying.  
 This might be a job for an extension!   *dusts off safari extension 
 documentation*

Yeah, I searched for an extension to do just this but didn't find one.

K

 
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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Kevin Callahan


On Oct 2, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Arno Hautala wrote:On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:41, Jared Earle jea...@gmail.com wrote:http://23x.co.uk/test/sae.mp3Option click didn't work, but the contextual menu option to "Downloadlinked file" was fine.i just see this:nothing elsedisabling ClickToFlash doesn't helpThere's also the route of "copy link, use curl".-- arno s hautala  /-| a...@alum.wpi.edupgp b2c9d448___MacOSX-talk mailing listMacOSX-talk@omnigroup.comhttp://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk___
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Re: [SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Arno Hautala
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 13:30, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote:

 Option click didn't work, but the contextual menu option to Download
 linked file was fine.

 i just see this:

 nothing else
 disabling ClickToFlash doesn't help

Sorry, Download linked file shows up when you click a link to the
audio file, not when it's already loaded.

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Re: [SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Kevin Callahan


On Oct 2, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Arno Hautala wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 13:30, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Option click didn't work, but the contextual menu option to Download
 linked file was fine.
 
 i just see this:
 
 nothing else
 disabling ClickToFlash doesn't help
 
 Sorry, Download linked file shows up when you click a link to the
 audio file, not when it's already loaded.

which indeed works in Lion's Mail app, too

does this work on various browsers and email clients on Windows as well?  



 
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Re: [SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread Kevin Callahan


On Oct 2, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote:

 
 
 On Oct 2, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Arno Hautala wrote:
 
 On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 13:30, Kevin Callahan kc...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Option click didn't work, but the contextual menu option to Download
 linked file was fine.
 
 i just see this:
 
 nothing else
 disabling ClickToFlash doesn't help
 
 Sorry, Download linked file shows up when you click a link to the
 audio file, not when it's already loaded.
 
 which indeed works in Lion's Mail app, too
 
 does this work on various browsers and email clients on Windows as well?  

The downside to not being able to save an MP3 file that's been loaded into a 
browser is that you now have to back track a page, relocate the link, then 
bring up the contextual menu to download the file 

we used to be able to audition a file, then download from the loaded page

would be nice to have option back

K


 
 
 
 
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Re: MobileMe sending mail (LION)

2011-10-02 Thread Nathan Sims

On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:32 PM, LuKreme wrote:

 Am I foolish for trusting Google? Perhaps, but I've seen nothing to convince 
 me they are not trustworthy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/30/us-internet-security-idUSTRE78T2GY20110930

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Re: MobileMe sending mail (LION)

2011-10-02 Thread Lawrence Sica

On Oct 2, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:

 
 On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:32 PM, LuKreme wrote:
 
 Am I foolish for trusting Google? Perhaps, but I've seen nothing to convince 
 me they are not trustworthy.
 
 http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/30/us-internet-security-idUSTRE78T2GY20110930


One thing to remember with Google is your information is the product they sell 
advertisers.  Apple as a contrast sells hardware so your information is not a 
revenue stream for them.  In fact they've done a lot to prevent selling of 
information.

I'd trust Amazon before Google because Amazon sells products not information.  
It comes down to what the product is.  In Google's case their product is you 
and their customer is the advertiser or the carrier/hardware vendor.

Looking at past issues with Google I don't think full trust is warranted.   A 
list of some issues

1. Google Buzz rollout, there were serious privacy concerns there.
2. The whole wifi snooping thing.  We don't really know what they were doing 
with that data.
3. Street view in and of itself has issues since there can be personally 
identifiable images found on it in some cases.
4. The cookie that expires in 2038 for search id.

I've read it's used to tie searches to an id.  If that is true it is a big 
concern because that means your search activity is identifiable.  We know they 
keep extensive logs of searches and only anonymize the data  after 9 months, 
they used to not bother until they got some heat, dropped it to 18 months, got 
more heat and went to 9.  Not sure if it has changed since then

Each of these alone is not enough to merit concern, but in aggregate I think it 
bears watching.  Also google is becoming a storehouse of all sorts of 
information about you, that alone means it merits scrutiny.  Between mail, 
reader, goole plus, google talk, google voice, and google checkout that is a 
whole lot of data they have on you.
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Re: Safari - downloading AAC or MP3 files

2011-10-02 Thread steve

on 2011-10-02 09:41 Jared Earle wrote

http://23x.co.uk/test/sae.mp3

Try with that.


ah, i had thought Kevin meant an MP3 as a page element, not loading an MP3 in 
lieue of a page; fwiw, Safari 5.0.6 (w/o QT Pro, under 10.5.8) doesn't even 
have Save page source


i generally resort to curl in such cases

to answer Kevin's later question, in Thunderbird i can right click and Save 
link as ...



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