clean out the dust! It can get expensive if you don't

2012-05-08 Thread objectwerks inc

So, I have a Mac Pro (early 2008) with an Nvidia Quadro 5600 video card.  While 
it has reasonable airflow, the Mac Pro itself is heavy, and it was behind a 
monitor on a table that was hard to easily get at it.  So I did not blow out 
the dust often and never really in the video cards (also has an ATI 2600 card).

Lately I have been having occasional glitches when the card gets pushed hard, 
and more likely when the room is warm than cold.  I've been thinking that I 
should take the computer, blow all the dust out, as well as off (out of) the 
video card.  But I've been busy -- real busy -- the last week or two and did 
not  get to it, even when I thought I should make time.

Well, yesterday I was down in my basement working on some stuff (moving tables 
from an office to the man-cave :-) ).  I came back up  and the Mac Pro was off. 
 I did not remember putting it to sleep and it is not set to go to sleep 
automatically.  (Though I do put it to sleep manually, the last few months, 
when I am away for a longer period).  The light [power led] was on like it was 
sleeping, but not pulsing.  The monitors (Apple monitors) were sleeping.   I 
tried to wake it up.  No go.  Finally I got all the cables disconnected and 
took it in to the kitchen, and opened the side.  A thin layer of dust but not 
as bad as I have seen some computers.   I took it out back on the porch and my 
cans of compressed air as well, and gave it 10 mins of blowing in every 
conceivable nook and cranny to get all the dust out.  

Still no go when trying to boot.  You could hear some sort of relay or 
something go when you plugged it in, and see the fan on the Nvidia card try to 
move, but it would not start.   I took the card out and blue out more dust from 
it.   Then I saw the internal ducts in front of the heat sink were basically 
totally clogged.   I got it all blown out.  The ATI card as well.  Put it all 
back together.  Nothing.   Replaced the MB battery (CR2032).  No go.  Finally I 
removed ALL PCI-E cards and trued, and it would start up.  (No video obviously 
so I quit the startup after showing it would start).  So I tried each card one 
at a time.   The ATI worked.  The Nvidia not.  :-(  It was the main driver of 
my 30 screens.  I've ordered an ATI 5770 Radeon overnight delivery to replace 
the Nvidia, but the cost could have been avoided if I had just dusted it out 
and cleaned out the video card once in a while.   The Nvidia 5770 should be a 
lot faster and get around an OpenGL Nvdidia bug that makes 1/2 the websites out 
there crash the WebProcess stuff in Safari, but with overnight delivery and one 
third party display-port-DVI adapter, it was almost $290 -- money I did not 
need to spend if I had done a better job keeping it clean.


Chad

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Re: clean out the dust! It can get expensive if you don't

2012-05-08 Thread Nathan Sims
On May 8, 2012, at 4:20 PM, objectwerks inc wrote:

 the cost could have been avoided if I had just dusted it out and cleaned out 
 the video card once in a while

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

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Re: clean out the dust! It can get expensive if you don't

2012-05-08 Thread Arno Hautala
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:32 PM, objectwerks inc c...@objectwerks.com wrote:

 [...] it fits the circumstances better than other possibilities.

False.
Ghosts.
Q.E.D.

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Re: clean out the dust! It can get expensive if you don't

2012-05-08 Thread objectwerks inc

On May 8, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Arno Hautala wrote:

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:32 PM, objectwerks inc c...@objectwerks.com wrote:
 
 [...] it fits the circumstances better than other possibilities.
 
 False.
 Ghosts.
 Q.E.D.

It could be Ghosts if there was any indication or evidence of such, like there 
has been of overheating.

Maybe you need to go back to lab 101 or proofs 101


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Re: clean out the dust! It can get expensive if you don't

2012-05-08 Thread objectwerks inc


Sent from my iPhone

On May 8, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Arno Hautala a...@alum.wpi.edu wrote:

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:44 PM, objectwerks inc c...@objectwerks.com wrote:
 
 It could be Ghosts if there was any indication or evidence of such, like 
 there has been of overheating.
 
 Maybe you need to go back to lab 101 or proofs 101
 
 At this point, I'm thinking Jokes 101

Now that worked. 


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