Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

2015-03-29 Thread @lbutlr
On 29 Mar 2015, at 13:05 , Matt Penna matthew.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a need to mount the sparse image at all? If the contents within the 
 image have not changed, then the image file should (I think) remain 
 unchanged, as well, and thus Time Machine will not back it up unless/until it 
 changes. It will be backed up initially, but will always be ignored for each 
 subsequent backup. Is this not adequate for what you need?

Or simply lock the dmg file.


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Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

2015-03-29 Thread Michael

On 2015-03-28, at 12:36 AM, @lbutlr krem...@kreme.com wrote:

 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 21:33, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?
 
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
 mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
 mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 
 
 Unmount the image first, then
 
 hdiutil attach -readonly /path/to/image.dmg
 
 (I think that’s right, double check the man page, it’s been a while since I 
 used hdiutil_

So what works is simply

disk=0s5; diskutil umount disk$disk ; diskutil mount readOnly disk$disk

Then, changing that first bit (with ^5^6, or ^0s5^2s2) lets you apply that 
read-only to any partition that you don't want updated.

Good? No.

Every read-only partition gets a deep scan on every backup.

I even made sure it was read-write, backup could complete successfully, and 
then read-only. Still gets deep scans.

The good news: Now I know how to force a deep scan.
The bad news: I don't know how to have a read-only archive that does not need 
to be updated (I don't want it to be updated) and still just backup is a no-op 
because it is read-only and not changing.

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Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

2015-03-29 Thread Macs R We
Maybe I’m misunderstanding the big picture here, but Time Machine allows you to 
specify files and volumes that are not to be backed up; and, although I’ve 
never tried it, I would try setting discretionary read-only permissions on the 
bundle and/or the interior volume to prevent any accidental modification of the 
contents.

On Mar 29, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On 2015-03-28, at 12:36 AM, @lbutlr krem...@kreme.com wrote:
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 21:33, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?
 
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
 mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
 mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 
 
 Unmount the image first, then
 
 hdiutil attach -readonly /path/to/image.dmg
 
 (I think that’s right, double check the man page, it’s been a while since I 
 used hdiutil_
 
 So what works is simply
 
 disk=0s5; diskutil umount disk$disk ; diskutil mount readOnly disk$disk
 
 Then, changing that first bit (with ^5^6, or ^0s5^2s2) lets you apply that 
 read-only to any partition that you don't want updated.
 
 Good? No.
 
 Every read-only partition gets a deep scan on every backup.
 
 I even made sure it was read-write, backup could complete successfully, and 
 then read-only. Still gets deep scans.
 
 The good news: Now I know how to force a deep scan.
 The bad news: I don't know how to have a read-only archive that does not need 
 to be updated (I don't want it to be updated) and still just backup is a 
 no-op because it is read-only and not changing.
 
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Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

2015-03-29 Thread Michael

On 2015-03-29, at 7:07 AM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:

 Maybe I’m misunderstanding the big picture here, but Time Machine allows you 
 to specify files and volumes that are not to be backed up; and, although I’ve 
 never tried it, I would try setting discretionary read-only permissions on 
 the bundle and/or the interior volume to prevent any accidental modification 
 of the contents.

The big picture, roughly:
I have some partitions that are historical data. I don't want them to ever 
change. But I do want them in the backup.

Attempting to mount those partitions as read only, to prevent them from 
changing, messes up Time Machine's ability to just say these have not changed.


 
 On Mar 29, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On 2015-03-28, at 12:36 AM, @lbutlr krem...@kreme.com wrote:
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 21:33, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?
 
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
 mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
 mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 
 
 Unmount the image first, then
 
 hdiutil attach -readonly /path/to/image.dmg
 
 (I think that’s right, double check the man page, it’s been a while since I 
 used hdiutil_
 
 So what works is simply
 
 disk=0s5; diskutil umount disk$disk ; diskutil mount readOnly disk$disk
 
 Then, changing that first bit (with ^5^6, or ^0s5^2s2) lets you apply that 
 read-only to any partition that you don't want updated.
 
 Good? No.
 
 Every read-only partition gets a deep scan on every backup.
 
 I even made sure it was read-write, backup could complete successfully, and 
 then read-only. Still gets deep scans.
 
 The good news: Now I know how to force a deep scan.
 The bad news: I don't know how to have a read-only archive that does not 
 need to be updated (I don't want it to be updated) and still just backup is 
 a no-op because it is read-only and not changing.
 
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Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

2015-03-29 Thread Matt Penna
On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2015-03-29, at 7:07 AM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:
 
 Maybe I’m misunderstanding the big picture here, but Time Machine allows you 
 to specify files and volumes that are not to be backed up; and, although 
 I’ve never tried it, I would try setting discretionary read-only permissions 
 on the bundle and/or the interior volume to prevent any accidental 
 modification of the contents.
 
 The big picture, roughly:
 I have some partitions that are historical data. I don't want them to ever 
 change. But I do want them in the backup.
 
 Attempting to mount those partitions as read only, to prevent them from 
 changing, messes up Time Machine's ability to just say these have not 
 changed.

Is there a need to mount the sparse image at all? If the contents within the 
image have not changed, then the image file should (I think) remain unchanged, 
as well, and thus Time Machine will not back it up unless/until it changes. It 
will be backed up initially, but will always be ignored for each subsequent 
backup. Is this not adequate for what you need?

Matt
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Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

2015-03-28 Thread @lbutlr

 On Mar 27, 2015, at 21:33, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?
 
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
 mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
 mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 

Unmount the image first, then

hdiutil attach -readonly /path/to/image.dmg

(I think that’s right, double check the man page, it’s been a while since I 
used hdiutil_

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Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

2015-03-27 Thread Michael
Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?

keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 


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