Photos public beta - GUI mistakes

2015-03-03 Thread Jacob Danilchik
Photos PUBLIC beta 

They removed drag and drop functionality and a finder like side bar.  These 
omissions make this the most un-Mac like application Apple has ever created.  

They use TWO identical and very closely situated " + " buttons to replace the 
above functionality.  I believe this is likely the greatest GUI design mistake 
of all time, regardless of the platform.

Not to mention if you lucky enough to pick the appropriate " + " button for the 
task you desire , it requires many "mousing" clicks to do something that 
previously was simple and intuitive with "drag and drop" AND totally consistent 
with the Mac OS X finder sidebar for organizing items. 

Oh, and If you make a mistake and choose the wrong " + " button you lose your 
selections and have to start over.

Jake Danilchik

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Re: Photos public beta - GUI mistakes

2015-03-03 Thread William Ehrich

On 2015-3-3 11:33 AM, Jacob Danilchik wrote:

They removed drag and drop functionality and a finder like side bar.
These omissions make this the most un-Mac like application Apple has
ever created.


Neither one is really appropriate on the iPhone.
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Re: Photos public beta - GUI mistakes

2015-03-03 Thread @lbutlr

> On Mar 3, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Jacob Danilchik  wrote:
> 
> Photos PUBLIC beta 
> 
> They removed drag and drop functionality and a finder like side bar.  These 
> omissions make this the most un-Mac like application Apple has ever created.  

There is a sidebar. It does not display by default on my MacBook Pro, but does 
on my 27” iMac; either way ⌘⌥S toggles it. Not sure about Drag-and-drop as I 
can’t remember the last Time I used that.

> They use TWO identical and very closely situated " + " buttons to replace the 
> above functionality.

What? I only see one ‘+’ button, it’s on top on the right, to the left of the 
share and search.

> I believe this is likely the greatest GUI design mistake of all time, 
> regardless of the platform.

Hyperbole much?

> Not to mention if you lucky enough to pick the appropriate " + " button for 
> the task you desire , it requires many "mousing" clicks to do something that 
> previously was simple and intuitive with "drag and drop" AND totally 
> consistent with the Mac OS X finder sidebar for organizing items. 

No idea what you are talking about. I just drug a photo into Photos and had no 
issue at all.

> Oh, and If you make a mistake and choose the wrong " + " button you lose your 
> selections and have to start over.

I think you need to describe much better what you are doing.

-- 
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It would be a mistake to think that they weren't also dangerous, just
because reading them didn't make fireworks go off in the sky. Reading
them sometimes did the more dangerous trick of making fireworks go off
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Re: Photos public beta - GUI mistakes

2015-03-03 Thread Kevin Callahan

> On Mar 3, 2015, at 7:31 PM, @lbutlr  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Jacob Danilchik  wrote:
>> 
>> Photos PUBLIC beta 
>> 
>> They removed drag and drop functionality and a finder like side bar.  These 
>> omissions make this the most un-Mac like application Apple has ever created. 
>>  
> 
> There is a sidebar. It does not display by default on my MacBook Pro, but 
> does on my 27” iMac; either way ⌘⌥S toggles it. Not sure about Drag-and-drop 
> as I can’t remember the last Time I used that.

I don’t have it installed yet - waiting to hear what beta testers are saying.

So, are you able to view your ALBUMS in the sidebar (as in the current iPhoto) 
while looking at contents of a particular album in the main window allowing you 
to select photos from the main window and drag them into an album in the 
sidebar?

Or do you have to view contents of some album or camera roll, select the ones 
you want to be contained in some other album, click the action button, scroll 
to find the album you want, then drop them in somehow?
Is that the process now?
Or is drag and drop supported from content in the main viewing panel to albums 
in the sidebar?

I’ve been holding out switching to the Photos app because at some point, I need 
to merge 3 libraries to create one uber library sans duplicates.  I hope there 
is a reliable tool to do that.  Then I’ll likely push them to iCloud /Photos 
app. 

How is performance?  Loading photos on iOS devices?  Editing?

-K

> 
>> They use TWO identical and very closely situated " + " buttons to replace 
>> the above functionality.
> 
> What? I only see one ‘+’ button, it’s on top on the right, to the left of the 
> share and search.
> 
>> I believe this is likely the greatest GUI design mistake of all time, 
>> regardless of the platform.
> 
> Hyperbole much?
> 
>> Not to mention if you lucky enough to pick the appropriate " + " button for 
>> the task you desire , it requires many "mousing" clicks to do something that 
>> previously was simple and intuitive with "drag and drop" AND totally 
>> consistent with the Mac OS X finder sidebar for organizing items. 
> 
> No idea what you are talking about. I just drug a photo into Photos and had 
> no issue at all.
> 
>> Oh, and If you make a mistake and choose the wrong " + " button you lose 
>> your selections and have to start over.
> 
> I think you need to describe much better what you are doing.
> 
> -- 
> perfectly ordinary books, printed on commonplace paper in mundane ink.
> It would be a mistake to think that they weren't also dangerous, just
> because reading them didn't make fireworks go off in the sky. Reading
> them sometimes did the more dangerous trick of making fireworks go off
> in the privacy of the reader's brain. --Soul Music
> 
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