Re: Swap file tracking
on 2013-12-05 22:09 LuKreme wrote On 05 Dec 2013, at 13:32 , steve harley st...@paper-ape.com wrote: ls -l /var/vm/swapfile* | awk '{ foo+= $5 } END { printf swap is %2.1f MB, foo/1024^3 }' 1024^3 is GB. yup - i think a few years ago i did a hasty edit; it was originally 1024^2, but i wanted fewer digits what puzzles me is why the awk loop doesn't work when i issue the above command directly in the shell - works fine as a script file ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
Could it be a sleepimage ? On my Mini mid 2011 (running 10.6.8), there are two rather small swapfiles (67 MB each), and a huge sleepimage of 8.52 GB in private:var:vm Rudolf Am 04.12.2013 um 18.46 schrieb Neil Laubenthal: On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:41 PM, list boy i.am.list@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know if there's a way (via the console/Terminal) to track swap file size, over time? You can ls /private/var/vm of course…but I don’t think the actual size of the swap files in there goes down unless you reboot in which case they get deleted. I routinely have 4 or 5 of them in there. I thought I understood this stuff…but Activity Monitor shows 8.11 GB of VM currently while I only have a 67MB and a 1GB actual swap file. Where does the over almost 7GB of VM reside? ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
on 2013-12-04 10:46 Neil Laubenthal wrote On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:41 PM, list boy i.am.list@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know if there's a way (via the console/Terminal) to track swap file size, over time? i used to have this shell script assigned to a keyboard shortcut: #!/bin/bash ls -l /var/vm/swapfile* | awk '{ foo+= $5 } END { printf swap is %2.1f MB, foo/1024^3 }' | growlnotify you can get growlnotify from here: http://growl.info/downloads you could re-purpose this to send output to a log file You can ls /private/var/vm of course…but I don’t think the actual size of the swap files in there goes down unless you reboot in which case they get deleted. they do go down, but not exactly proportion to memory you free up, and not immediately I thought I understood this stuff…but Activity Monitor shows 8.11 GB of VM currently while I only have a 67MB and a 1GB actual swap file. Where does the over almost 7GB of VM reside? most of that VM is probably mapped to files on disk (other than the swap files) or to memory shared with other processes (whether on disk or in RAM) i believe it's also possible to allocate memory but never reference it and thus have it exist as an address that is neither in RAM nor on disk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
On 04 Dec 2013, at 10:46 , Neil Laubenthal n...@laubenthal.net wrote: I thought I understood this stuff…but Activity Monitor shows 8.11 GB of VM currently while I only have a 67MB and a 1GB actual swap file. NB: You will *always* have at least 1GB swapfile under 10.9. (actually, I think you will have a 64MB file and a 1GB file at minimum). Where does the over almost 7GB of VM reside? It doesn't, it's virtual. -- Love is like oxygen / You get too much / you get too high / Not enough and you're gonna die ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
On 05 Dec 2013, at 13:32 , steve harley st...@paper-ape.com wrote: ls -l /var/vm/swapfile* | awk '{ foo+= $5 } END { printf swap is %2.1f MB, foo/1024^3 }' 1024^3 is GB. -- I have NOT lost my mind! I've got a backup around here somewhere. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Swap file tracking
Anyone know if there's a way (via the console/Terminal) to track swap file size, over time? (I think data will help my cause) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:41 PM, list boy i.am.list@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know if there's a way (via the console/Terminal) to track swap file size, over time? You can ls /private/var/vm of course…but I don’t think the actual size of the swap files in there goes down unless you reboot in which case they get deleted. I routinely have 4 or 5 of them in there. I thought I understood this stuff…but Activity Monitor shows 8.11 GB of VM currently while I only have a 67MB and a 1GB actual swap file. Where does the over almost 7GB of VM reside? --- There are only three kinds of stress; your basic nuclear stress, cooking stress, and A$$hole stress. The key to their relationship is Jello. neil ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
Neil Laubenthal n...@laubenthal.net writes: I thought I understood this stuff…but Activity Monitor shows 8.11 GB of VM currently while I only have a 67MB and a 1GB actual swap file. Where does the over almost 7GB of VM reside? In imaginary land... Most of this probably is memory mapped/reserved by some processes that never was used, so it's basically more imaginary than even virtual. I think these days the only sane way to deal with this is to stuff all the memory sticks into your machine that it can take and then never think about it again. Jochem -- A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away. - Antoine de Saint-Exupery ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Neil Laubenthal n...@laubenthal.net wrote: […] but I don’t think the actual size of the swap files in there goes down unless you reboot in which case they get deleted. I've definitely seen the number of swap files decrease. Rarely, but I've seen it a handful of times. -- arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
There's a lot to be said for that. neil The three kinds of stress…nuclear, cooking and ahole. Jello is the key to the relationship. On Dec 4, 2013, at 13:19, Jochem Huhmann j...@gmx.net wrote: stuff all the memory sticks into your machine that it can take ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
Agreed, except I'm at 4 GB (which I believe was the max for a MacBook Air 4,2) And it seems like most people gasp when I tell them my swap file size(s). So maybe (?) my particular case has something especially wrong with it... (like, say, a Sandforce SSD) On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Jochem Huhmann j...@gmx.net wrote: I think these days the only sane way to deal with this is to stuff all the memory sticks into your machine that it can take and then never think about it again. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Swap file tracking
10.7.5 definitely will reduce swapfile size when programs free up memory. Today, for example, I was at 8 GB of swap file, and now I'm down to 4 GB. Earlier versions would not; at least as recently as 10.4, and I think 10.5 on the PPC, swapfile space would only be reclaimed if everything after point X was free. It would not compress the swapfile, but instead relied on everything going away. Naturally, that didn't happen often. I consistently find that if I log out, and log back in, swap used is down to around 250 MB, yet for whatever reason, the swap files (there are more than 1) will never go below 1 GB of disk space. I agree, more memory is the answer. The better question is why; why not run happily in 16 MB inside a pizza box?___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk