Re: Trac emails -- how to stop getting them

2007-11-20 Thread Rainer Müller
James Berry wrote:
 I think the best behavior would be to turn off the notifiers feature.
 Then it's essentially opt-in: if you want to get updates for a ticket
 then you put yourself in the cc field, right? That seems perfect.

But reporter and assignee should be notified by default, otherwise it
would be possible for some committer to never realize there actually is
a open ticket assigned to him.

Rainer
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Re: Trac emails -- how to stop getting them

2007-11-20 Thread Juan Manuel Palacios


On Nov 20, 2007, at 11:48 AM, James Berry wrote:


Hi Juan,

On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:



On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:13 AM, N_Ox wrote:


As Ryan said, with the new configuration anyone who had  
participated in the ticket (even just to change some properties)  
gets notified afterwards.
We should only notify the reporter and the assignee by default,  
shouldn't we?



	That's Trac's notify updaters feature in action, with which  
anyone who's ever updated a ticket gets, m, notified ;-)


I think the best behavior would be to turn off the notifiers  
feature. Then it's essentially opt-in: if you want to get updates  
for a ticket then you put yourself in the cc field, right? That  
seems perfect.


James



	Good point! Will make it happen as soon as I get a hold of Bill.  
Thanks for the feedback!



-jmpp

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Re: Trac emails -- how to stop getting them

2007-11-19 Thread Randall Wood


On 18 Nov 2007, at 23:48, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

So it used to be that you would only get emails from Trac if you  
put your email address in the ticket's Cc line. This was a rather  
broken design, but was how it was. I often went thru and added  
reporter and assignee to the Cc list of all sorts of tickets.  
Didn't add myself because they weren't my ports. I also sometimes  
added small comments to tickets, such as suggesting that it was a  
duplicate of another ticket. Again, not my issue, so I didn't add  
myself to the Cc line. I didn't care to hear any further discussion  
on those issues, since I wasn't using the ports in question.  
Whenever I wanted to become part of the discussion, I added myself  
to the Cc line.


Now that Trac is fixed, it seems to be sending me mails about every  
ticket I've ever touched. I don't care about, for example, issue  
#12994, but I keep getting email about it. I'm not the reporter,  
the assignee, or on the Cc list; I just added a comment at some  
point. How do I stop getting email about that ticket, and others I  
don't care about? Is there an unsubscribe me from this ticket  
button somewhere that I'm overlooking? I had trouble keeping up  
with relevant ticket mails before; now it's become much more  
difficult as I have to sift through the irrelevant ticket mails to  
get to the relevant ones.


You may want to double check that you are not subscribed to the  
macports-tickets mailing list. Turns out I was subscribed twice to  
that list at two different email addresses...



Randall Wood
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All the

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Re: Trac emails -- how to stop getting them

2007-11-19 Thread N_Ox


Le 19 nov. 07 à 11:25, Randall Wood a écrit :



On 18 Nov 2007, at 23:48, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

So it used to be that you would only get emails from Trac if you  
put your email address in the ticket's Cc line. This was a rather  
broken design, but was how it was. I often went thru and added  
reporter and assignee to the Cc list of all sorts of tickets.  
Didn't add myself because they weren't my ports. I also sometimes  
added small comments to tickets, such as suggesting that it was a  
duplicate of another ticket. Again, not my issue, so I didn't add  
myself to the Cc line. I didn't care to hear any further  
discussion on those issues, since I wasn't using the ports in  
question. Whenever I wanted to become part of the discussion, I  
added myself to the Cc line.


Now that Trac is fixed, it seems to be sending me mails about  
every ticket I've ever touched. I don't care about, for example,  
issue #12994, but I keep getting email about it. I'm not the  
reporter, the assignee, or on the Cc list; I just added a comment  
at some point. How do I stop getting email about that ticket, and  
others I don't care about? Is there an unsubscribe me from this  
ticket button somewhere that I'm overlooking? I had trouble  
keeping up with relevant ticket mails before; now it's become much  
more difficult as I have to sift through the irrelevant ticket  
mails to get to the relevant ones.


You may want to double check that you are not subscribed to the  
macports-tickets mailing list. Turns out I was subscribed twice to  
that list at two different email addresses...



Randall Wood
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://shyramblings.blogspot.com

The rules are simple: The ball is round. The game lasts 90  
minutes. All the

rest is just philosophy.



As Ryan said, with the new configuration anyone who had participated  
in the ticket (even just to change some properties) gets notified  
afterwards.
We should only notify the reporter and the assignee by default,  
shouldn't we?


Regards,

--
Anthony Ramine, the Ports tree cleaning Maestro.
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Re: Trac emails -- how to stop getting them

2007-11-19 Thread Juan Manuel Palacios


On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:22 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:



On Nov 19, 2007, at 07:54, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:


On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:13 AM, N_Ox wrote:

As Ryan said, with the new configuration anyone who had  
participated in the ticket (even just to change some properties)  
gets notified afterwards.
We should only notify the reporter and the assignee by default,  
shouldn't we?


That's Trac's notify updaters feature in action, with which  
anyone who's ever updated a ticket gets, m, notified ;-)


I figured as much. And it can be a nice feature, and it can even be  
the expected behavior in many cases. But I think it's not the best  
behavior in all cases.


I could ask Bill to turn it off for us if it turns out to be too  
much of a nuisance and there's strong demand against it, but the  
one unfortunate thing is that all of Apple is off this entire week  
for thanksgiving! Maybe we could take this time then to poll...?


I don't suppose there's any way for this to be a per-user setting?  
Default to on so that casual MacPorts users commenting on tickets  
will get responses. Settable to off for ticket cleaners like me and  
Anthony who touch tons of tickets just to get them assigned to the  
right places but who don't want to be bombarded with tons of follow- 
ups.




	Now that's a good question, but I'm afraid to tell you that I have no  
idea. Maybe Daniel can shed some light?


	I will bring it up to Bill when I first get a chance, though I  
certainly wouldn't want to loose your efforts and energy after  
drowning in Trac emails ;-) Regards,...



-jmpp

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