Re: Some Homebrew commands send data to Google Analytics vs. port mpstats
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 04:00:37AM +1100, Joshua Root wrote: > The installer isn't really conducive to this. We could definitely > advertise it better though, both in the documentation and with a > message inviting users to install the port if they haven't. I'm > thinking the latter should use the interactive bits to allow users to > say "never remind me again". I think we can make this a one-time interactive question with Yes/No/Ask Me Later options. This would be neither opt-in nor opt-out and might give us good coverage. > But first we should probably get the stats web view running on a > macports.org domain. Agreed. That should not be difficult now that we have server access. -- Clemens
Re: Some Homebrew commands send data to Google Analytics vs. port mpstats
The installer isn't really conducive to this. We could definitely advertise it better though, both in the documentation and with a message inviting users to install the port if they haven't. I'm thinking the latter should use the interactive bits to allow users to say "never remind me again". But first we should probably get the stats web view running on a macports.org domain. - Josh On 2016-12-16 02:54 , Russell Jones wrote: A tickbox in the installer wouldn't hurt, I guess? Russell On 27/11/16 05:48, Ryan Schmidt wrote: I also read that article yesterday. Because our statistics are opt in, and the user is not invited to enable them during the installation, and they are not described in the guide or anywhere that I'm aware of, the number of users who have found and enabled it are minuscule and probably not representative of MacPorts users as a whole. The lack of statistics about how many users use MacPorts and what ports they have installed is probably hurting us. -Ryan On Nov 26, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Marko Käning wrote: Hi, the other day I found an article on hacker news [1] which eventually made clear that homebrew actually sends (some) data to google analytics by default [2]! I am happy about MacPorts’ “analytics” by port mpstats being absolutely opt-in and keeping the data within MacPorts (Clemens’ server in fact) and doesn’t try anything funny! Thanks, MacPorts for caring (more) about its users privacy! Greets, Marko [1] https://tobiastom.name/notes/7a79eed0 [2] https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/blob/7f13b37b903564e2a64cea982d6b84d1aa6b800b/Library/Homebrew/utils/analytics.sh#L73-L94
Re: Some Homebrew commands send data to Google Analytics vs. port mpstats
A tickbox in the installer wouldn't hurt, I guess? Russell On 27/11/16 05:48, Ryan Schmidt wrote: I also read that article yesterday. Because our statistics are opt in, and the user is not invited to enable them during the installation, and they are not described in the guide or anywhere that I'm aware of, the number of users who have found and enabled it are minuscule and probably not representative of MacPorts users as a whole. The lack of statistics about how many users use MacPorts and what ports they have installed is probably hurting us. -Ryan On Nov 26, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Marko Käning wrote: Hi, the other day I found an article on hacker news [1] which eventually made clear that homebrew actually sends (some) data to google analytics by default [2]! I am happy about MacPorts’ “analytics” by port mpstats being absolutely opt-in and keeping the data within MacPorts (Clemens’ server in fact) and doesn’t try anything funny! Thanks, MacPorts for caring (more) about its users privacy! Greets, Marko [1] https://tobiastom.name/notes/7a79eed0 [2] https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/blob/7f13b37b903564e2a64cea982d6b84d1aa6b800b/Library/Homebrew/utils/analytics.sh#L73-L94
Re: Some Homebrew commands send data to Google Analytics vs. port mpstats
I also read that article yesterday. Because our statistics are opt in, and the user is not invited to enable them during the installation, and they are not described in the guide or anywhere that I'm aware of, the number of users who have found and enabled it are minuscule and probably not representative of MacPorts users as a whole. The lack of statistics about how many users use MacPorts and what ports they have installed is probably hurting us. -Ryan > On Nov 26, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Marko Käning wrote: > > Hi, > > the other day I found an article on hacker news [1] which eventually made > clear > that homebrew actually sends (some) data to google analytics by default [2]! > > I am happy about MacPorts’ “analytics” by port mpstats being absolutely opt-in > and keeping the data within MacPorts (Clemens’ server in fact) and doesn’t try > anything funny! > > Thanks, MacPorts for caring (more) about its users privacy! > > Greets, > Marko > > > [1] https://tobiastom.name/notes/7a79eed0 > [2] > https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/blob/7f13b37b903564e2a64cea982d6b84d1aa6b800b/Library/Homebrew/utils/analytics.sh#L73-L94 >