Re: There is no release manager! There is no release manager!

2008-10-08 Thread paul beard
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Jordan K. Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Oct 7, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

  For the next release, I think we need version 1.7.0, not 1.6.1,
 because there are countless new features and a year's worth of bug
 fixes. That much work deserves more than just a bugfix version number
 increase. That means we release from trunk, not the 1.6 branch. A
 concern of mine is that the 1.6 branch contains some work that was
 done only there and not on trunk. I believe some of it was done on
 trunk in a different way, but I don't know if all changes from the
 1.6 branch got put in trunk. Someone needs to figure out whether it
 was, and if not, identify what needs to be ported from 1.6 to trunk.
 Ideally that would happen before a 1.7.0 release.


 I agree entirely.  I know that some kind folks have also been tentatively
 tossing their hat in the ring for this job, and for that I think we should
 all be thankful and also willing to both encourage and help them do so in
 any way necessary, but I also agree that we haven't had a release in some
 time and the accumulated backlog of work is likely to be a little daunting
 to anyone who isn't already intimately familiar with MacPorts.

 Ryan.  I hate to do this to you, I really do, but given the degree to which
 you've been active in this project and the fact that you clearly know your
 way around, I don't suppose YOU would be willing to do this for at least one
 release, just to get the ball rolling again, as it were?   The quoted
 paragraph clearly demonstrates an agenda of sorts, without which any RE
 cannot truly be effective, and I think the other volunteers would find you a
 more than credible candidate for the job and be willing to follow/help you
 as necessary.  Again, I am not suggesting that you volunteer (or be
 volunteered :-) for anything more than this 1.7.0 release, we just need to
 break the log jam and there are very few people I can think of who have
 demonstrated your level of commitment to this project (the svn logs speak
 for themselves!).


Sounds like an excellent solution. Breaking the log jam is an excellent
summation of what's needed here and I think once people can see the
accumulated body of work that comes with the 1.7 release,  the energy level
and enthusiasm will go up a bit.

Seconded, in other words.

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Re: There is no release manager! There is no release manager!

2008-10-08 Thread paul beard
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 I don't know which reality you have been living in, but I think the
 weight of evidence points to exactly the opposite conclusion:  There
 has not been a release manager or portmgr team for quite some time,
 which is why this and other bugs have been stuck in release limbo.


Just the daily reality of an end-user.

I didn't realize those positions were completely vacant. Maybe in future
those responsibilities, if they are important to the ongoing success of the
project, can be taken up by someone else, even on an interim or one shot
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Re: There is no release manager! There is no release manager!

2008-10-07 Thread paul beard
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Daniel J. Luke wrote:

  On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:41 PM, William Davis wrote:
  Pardon me for speaking frankly but! to solve this problem
  permanently will take an updated version of port with the bug fix in
  place. This situation has gone on for many months now and I can NOT
  understand why version 1.61 of port has not been released fixing this
  path problem.
 
 
  You volunteering to be the new release manager? ;-)

 Maybe some folks have not [there is no release manager!] gotten the
 ideal firmly in their heads [there is no release manager!] yet that
 there is, in fact, NO RELEASE MANAGER for MacPorts right now?

 Perhaps we should send out some sort of announcement calling formally
 for volunteers for the position?

 I dunno, perhaps that seems superfluous, but I'll still bet that there
 are a couple of people out there laboring under the misapprehension
 that there is, in fact, a release manager for MacPorts (there isn't!).


FAIL.
There has been a release manager and portmgr@ team for quite some time and
this bug lingers, festers even.

If this is part of a strategy of annoying users to the point where they sign
up to be release manager just so it gets done, I'm not sure it will work.
Civilians like me have no idea what the actual steps are to get a release
cut, even one so trivial as the bug fix for 1.6. If the guys who were doing
it had a hard time with it, what would make someone who isn't an active port
maintainer think they could do it?

Absent a release manager or team, what would it take to get a release
schedule (quarterly? monthly?) and/or a roadmap? Not sure it makes a lot of
sense to fret about a release manager if we don't really know what a release
is or why we need one. A roadmap/set of benchmarks/goals would help and from
there a release calendar could be derived.

If you do really want volunteers, why not provide some insight into what's
involved and how it works? Are there tools? Is there a process? Bueller?

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Re: There is no release manager! There is no release manager!

2008-10-07 Thread paul beard
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 We don't need a roadmap at this time; we just need to release the work that
 has been done on trunk over the past year. After that, I don't think we need
 a roadmap either; we just need to make regular releases when there is new
 work on trunk to release.


absent a road map, how to decide what gets worked on, what, if any, features
get added/fixed/removed? Example: a packaging system so people on slow
hardware can stay up to date: important and useful but not to people with
newer/faster hardware. If developers/volunteers set their own priorities, is
it really a project? A community garden makeover has more organization than
that  it doesn't mean everyone gets a rake or watering can: tasks are
assigned based on what needs doing. But as we have seen with this niggly
little .profile issue, if no one owns it, no one fixes it. In a real
software development environment, developers don't always get to pick what
they want to work on: some icky stuff just has to be done. I couldn't get
arrested as a programmer, but even I know that.

To be clear, I'm not saying MacPorts as a project is a waste of time or that
the volunteers are a buncha slackers. But it is a little frustrating to see
so many people come into the community and face the same issues. How long in
actual time would it take for someone with a commit bit to add the fix to
.profile and cut a new release? An hour? Two? 24? Weighing that against the
potential users who have been turned off or frustrated by the experience of
a known issue, simple to fix, left unfixed, and I wonder if MacPorts is just
for the developers who can grope around in its guts.

Do we have any idea how many people have downloaded it? How many sync their
trees and download new portfiles?


 I would be a bit concerned about a newcomer preparing the releases. I would
 hope that the release manager would have an intimate familiarity with
 MacPorts, for which I think you need experience maintaining ports and maybe
 even contributing some patches to base as well. At least, releases would
 have to be tested by people familiar with MacPorts before the final release
 is made. Well, after a year's worth of changes we're going to need some
 release candidates before the final release anyway.


I wasn't considering volunteering ;-)



 For the next release, I think we need version 1.7.0, not 1.6.1, because
 there are countless new features and a year's worth of bug fixes. That much
 work deserves more than just a bugfix version number increase. That means we
 release from trunk, not the 1.6 branch. A concern of mine is that the 1.6
 branch contains some work that was done only there and not on trunk. I
 believe some of it was done on trunk in a different way, but I don't know if
 all changes from the 1.6 branch got put in trunk. Someone needs to figure
 out whether it was, and if not, identify what needs to be ported from 1.6 to
 trunk. Ideally that would happen before a 1.7.0 release.



No argument there. It does seem like not cutting more regular releases has
created some work there.

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Re: Getting started

2008-09-08 Thread paul beard
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sep 6, 2008, at 3:42 PM, paul beard wrote:

 Why don't send along to the list the output of port installed so we can
 see where you are. If you get a complaint that port does not exist, you will
 need to try /opt/local/bin/port installed as there as a known bug in the
 last release that has never been fixed.

 The bug has been fixed; a new version of MacPorts has just not been released
 that contains the fix. The workaround is described in the problem hotlist:

 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/ProblemHotlist#a.profilenotsetup

If it hasn't been released, it hasn't really been fixed.

Will there be another release?

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Re: macports-users Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

2008-09-06 Thread paul beard
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 7:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:



 Greetings.

 Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find out how to begin using MacPorts.

 I have a MacBook just under a year old, with a 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 processor and OS X 10.5.4.

 I installed appropriate versions of X11, Xcode  MacPorts - all
 successfully, as I understood it.

 I cannot find MacPort's icon.

 Perhaps it is not its own app.   In which case it is a bit beyond my
 ken.   ...my barbie too.

 I've checked the online guide  FAQ and it all seems to assume this
 most basic how-to-start-using-it point is self-evident and I can't
 find any mention of what I need to do to begin doing anything else
 with it.  I've given up on that route, after a couple hours of
 installing and searching.

 Began this whole process in an attempt to install GIMP.  I'll try the
 other easy(?) route listed on their site, but would still be
 interested in checking out what-all MacPorts has to offer.  It seems
 an exciting source to explore.


MacPorts is not an application so there is no icon or anything like that.
It's a framework to install and manage other open source apps (like the
Gimp). It manages dependencies and versions/variants so you can just get
what you need.

Why don't send along to the list the output of port installed so we can
see where you are. If you get a complaint that port does not exist, you will
need to try /opt/local/bin/port installed as there as a known bug in the
last release that has never been fixed.

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Re: dependencies for gnome

2008-07-05 Thread paul beard
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Randall Wood 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I maintained this port, it was designed to deliver the official
 GNOME distribution set as completely as possible. So yes, everything
 is really required unless it has been removed from GNOME upstream and
 not from the port.


Cheers to the GNOME team for completeness, but still . . .


 On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM, paul beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are all these *really* necessary?
 
  Error: The following dependencies failed to build: gnome-desktop-suite
  evince gdk-pixbuf glib1 gtk1 poppler poppler-data file-roller
  gcalctool gconf-editor gdm howl gedit gtksourceview2
  py25-pygtksourceview gnome-applets gnome-control-center
  gnome-python-desktop gnome-media gtksourceview gnuregex
  totem-pl-parser gucharmap system-tools-backends p5-net-dbus
  p5-xml-twig gnome-audio gnome-backgrounds gnome-games ggz-client-libs
  libggz guile gmp libsdl_mixer libsdl smpeg py25-gtkglext gtkglext
  py25-opengl py25-pil py25-setuptools py25-tkinter tcl tk
  gnome-keyring-manager gnome-mag gnome-session gnome-system-monitor
  gtkmm cairomm glibmm libsigcxx2 gnome-terminal vte gnome-user-docs
  gnome-utils gnopernicus libgail-gnome libgtkhtml3 seahorse avahi
  dbus-python25 gdbm libdaemon py25-gdbm gpgme pth vino yelp firefox-x11
  zip zenity
 
  seahorse *and* firefox? howl *and* avahi? Don't these do more or less
  the same thing?

 Seahorse is a GPG frontend. Firefox is a web browser. No similarity.
 I'm not sure why howl is in there, everything GNOME should depend on
 avahi (unless some clever GNOME developer is using howl only on Mac OS
 X in his project)


Gah, I was thinking of seamonkey. My mistake . .


 
  I can see needing a lot of libraries, but shouldn't full applications
  be optional? why gedit?

 gedit is part of the GNOME desktop as defined by GNOME. If you want
 the GNOME platform (which has most of the current GNOME libraries),
 install the gnome-platform-suite port.

  Maybe there's something in these variants -- Variants:graphics,
  office, universal, www -- but it's not obvious to me.
 
  It would be a worthwhile exercise for maintainers to install a complex
  meta-port from scratch, just to see if anything needs fixing. I can
  only imagine how long this will take to build.
 
 
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ccache errors, when I have it configured OFF?

2008-07-04 Thread paul beard
Anyone know what this is about?

---  Building glib1 with target all
Error: Target org.macports.build returned: shell command  cd
/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_mports_trunk_dports_devel_glib1/work/glib-1.2.10
 make all  returned error 2
Command output: make  all-recursive
Making all in .
/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link ccache /usr/bin/gcc-4.0  -O2
-I/opt/local/include -Wall  -D_REENTRANT -L/opt/local/lib -o
libglib.la -rpath /opt/local/lib -version-info 0:10:0   -release 1.2
 -export-dynamic garray.lo gcache.lo gcompletion.lo gdataset.lo
gdate.lo gerror.lo ghash.lo ghook.lo giochannel.lo giounix.lo glist.lo
gmain.lo gmem.lo gmessages.lo gmutex.lo gnode.lo gprimes.lo grel.lo
gscanner.lo gslist.lo gstrfuncs.lo gstring.lo gtimer.lo gtree.lo
gutils.lo
rm -fr .libs/libglib.la .libs/libglib.* .libs/libglib-1.2.*
ccache -dynamiclib -flat_namespace -undefined suppress -o
.libs/libglib-1.2.0.0.10.dylib  garray.lo gcache.lo gcompletion.lo
gdataset.lo gdate.lo gerror.lo ghash.lo ghook.lo giochannel.lo
giounix.lo glist.lo gmain.lo gmem.lo gmessages.lo gmutex.lo gnode.lo
gprimes.lo grel.lo gscanner.lo gslist.lo gstrfuncs.lo gstring.lo
gtimer.lo gtree.lo gutils.lo  -L/opt/local/lib -lc  -install_name
/opt/local/lib/libglib-1.2.0.dylib -compatibility_version 1
-current_version 1.10
ccache: illegal option -- d

I tried just commenting out the line, but wondered if it defaulted to
YES if there was nothing configured.

macports.conf:# Use ccache (C/C++ compiler cache) - see http://ccache.samba.org/
macports.conf:configureccache   no


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dependencies for gnome

2008-07-04 Thread paul beard
Are all these *really* necessary?

Error: The following dependencies failed to build: gnome-desktop-suite
evince gdk-pixbuf glib1 gtk1 poppler poppler-data file-roller
gcalctool gconf-editor gdm howl gedit gtksourceview2
py25-pygtksourceview gnome-applets gnome-control-center
gnome-python-desktop gnome-media gtksourceview gnuregex
totem-pl-parser gucharmap system-tools-backends p5-net-dbus
p5-xml-twig gnome-audio gnome-backgrounds gnome-games ggz-client-libs
libggz guile gmp libsdl_mixer libsdl smpeg py25-gtkglext gtkglext
py25-opengl py25-pil py25-setuptools py25-tkinter tcl tk
gnome-keyring-manager gnome-mag gnome-session gnome-system-monitor
gtkmm cairomm glibmm libsigcxx2 gnome-terminal vte gnome-user-docs
gnome-utils gnopernicus libgail-gnome libgtkhtml3 seahorse avahi
dbus-python25 gdbm libdaemon py25-gdbm gpgme pth vino yelp firefox-x11
zip zenity

seahorse *and* firefox? howl *and* avahi? Don't these do more or less
the same thing?

I can see needing a lot of libraries, but shouldn't full applications
be optional? why gedit?

Maybe there's something in these variants -- Variants:graphics,
office, universal, www -- but it's not obvious to me.

It would be a worthwhile exercise for maintainers to install a complex
meta-port from scratch, just to see if anything needs fixing. I can
only imagine how long this will take to build.


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dealing with ports that can't upgrade

2008-06-21 Thread paul beard
So I have this problem where I can't upgrade metacity until I get Leopard.
Is there a way to have MacPorts simply ignore you don't want upgraded or
that can't be upgraded? Something as simple as a .ignore file in the port
directory or an entry in a list in ports.conf . . .
In the case of metacity and other ports similarly situated, why not an OS
version test, if it's confirmed that Tiger is not suitable build platform?

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Re: dealing with ports that can't upgrade

2008-06-21 Thread paul beard
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 On Jun 21, 2008, at 3:19 PM, paul beard wrote:

  So I have this problem where I can't upgrade metacity until I get Leopard.
 Is there a way to have MacPorts simply ignore you don't want upgraded or
 that can't be upgraded? Something as simple as a .ignore file in the port
 directory or an entry in a list in ports.conf . . .


 There is no such feature at this time.


I suspected not: I'll make an RFE.



  In the case of metacity and other ports similarly situated, why not an OS
 version test, if it's confirmed that Tiger is not suitable build platform?


 If the current version of metacity will not be fixed to work on
 pre-Leopard, then the port should error out on pre-Leopard OS versions, and
 the last Tiger-compatible version of metacity should be resurrected from the
 repository and reinstated as a separate port.


I am actually working my way through that: looks like 2.21.2 works, where
2.22 fails.


 But if the current metacity can be fixed to work on pre-Leopard, then that
 should be done instead.


That sounds like a lot of work: something to do with X.org stuff that is
leopard-specific. Seems to me that erroring out based on OS version is the
cleanest way to go forward.


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Re: dealing with ports that can't upgrade

2008-06-21 Thread paul beard
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Jun 21, 2008, at 4:12 PM, paul beard wrote:

  On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

  On Jun 21, 2008, at 3:19 PM, paul beard wrote:

  So I have this problem where I can't upgrade metacity until I get
 Leopard. Is there a way to have MacPorts simply ignore you don't want
 upgraded or that can't be upgraded? Something as simple as a .ignore file 
 in
 the port directory or an entry in a list in ports.conf . . .


 There is no such feature at this time.



 I suspected not: I'll make an RFE.


 Do we really want people ignoring available upgrades? I don't think that's
 a good feature to add.

If the upgrade doesn't install, why waste the cycles on it? And if a port's
current version is the only one that works for a given use case, do we want
to force an unwanted upgrade or force a user to downgrade it themselves?
Assume that someone who is using MacPorts knows what they're doing: setting
the ignore flag is not something that can be done by accident and it would
be trivial to display a message listing the ignored ports, so the user could
be reminded that they had thrown that switch.

Let's not get in the habit of thinking for others.




  In the case of metacity and other ports similarly situated, why not an OS
 version test, if it's confirmed that Tiger is not suitable build platform?


 If the current version of metacity will not be fixed to work on
 pre-Leopard, then the port should error out on pre-Leopard OS versions, and
 the last Tiger-compatible version of metacity should be resurrected from the
 repository and reinstated as a separate port.



 I am actually working my way through that: looks like 2.21.2 works, where
 2.22 fails.

  But if the current metacity can be fixed to work on pre-Leopard, then
 that should be done instead.



 That sounds like a lot of work: something to do with X.org stuff that is
 leopard-specific. Seems to me that erroring out based on OS version is the
 cleanest way to go forward.


 OK. Then something like this can be added to the metacity port:


 platform darwin 7 {
pre-fetch {
return -code error ${name} requires Mac OS X 10.5 or
 newer.
}
 }
 platform darwin 8 {
pre-fetch {
return -code error ${name} requires Mac OS X 10.5 or
 newer.
}
 }


 However, this will not prevent the port from showing up in the list of
 outdated ports, and it will not enable Tiger users to install the older
 version. For that, the older version of metacity would need to be broken out
 into a new port.


I leave this decision to the port's maintainers: ideally it would no longer
show up in the list of outdated ports, because it really isn't outdated for
that release of the OS.

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Re: New wiki

2008-06-11 Thread paul beard
Hmm, is it about time for the Bike Shed link to be cited?

As a non-committer who has used MacPorts since it was DarwinPorts and used
Fink before that, here's my two shiny bits of something or other.

I wasn't aware there was large body of documentation to be migrated, so the
argument that a new syntax has to be mastered isn't all that strong.

As to whether or not this is the most important issue, that is up to each
person who uses this project. No one is suggesting that port hacking stop so
that documentation can be re-written. What I suspect will happen, if an
accessible format is chosen, is that more contributors will appear to do
that work. I considered doing some docs for DarwinPorts and FreeBSD but the
work was to be done in docbook, if memory serves, and that just didn't work
for me. I didn't want to learn a text formatting system just to document how
to use a port management system. If you want to examine prioritization,
there's an example: how much of a volunteer's scarce attention do you want
applied to productive work vs learning a toolset?

Perhaps in the review of page views/status, we could find out how many
people use the docs in place and how many use TRAC as a resource. I wasn't
aware of it as documentation repository so much as a ticket manager, and I
have not seen a lot of wiki syntax/formatting beyond using the {{{ }}}
markup to denote code or fixed-width output.

I agree that the best way to see if this is a good idea is to try it. As
often as useage tips appear on this list, it would make a lot of sense to
put them all in one place.

Maybe some docs on how to build from the MacPorts trunk, so we can access
all the bug fixes to 1.6, would be a good place to start?


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Re: New Howto

2008-06-10 Thread paul beard
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:00 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Message: 11
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:27:30 -0500
From: Lorin Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Howto
To: Jordan K. Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
Message-ID:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 Leaving aside the issue of what the best platform for sharing the info
might
 be. If nobody knows it's there, the kick-assingest wiki server the world
has
 or will ever see is not going to address my suggestion in the slightest.
 My point was that it's quite a challenge finding the current how-to's even
 if you already know they exist. If you are not in that smallish (I'm
 guessing--but I've been using *Ports for a fairly long time, and it was a
 recent message on this list that made me aware) category, then the chances
 this very useful series of articles will reach the audience that needs it
is
 quite small.
 Just to refresh, there needs to be a link from the main MacPorts
 documentation site to the how-to's. As a first step, it's awesome.

Taking up the earlier comment on a need for discussion, what are the pros
and cons of the different wiki platforms?

I would say, if I had a vote (who does?), that whatever people are willing
to use wins. It may not be elegant or state of the art, but the best is the
enemy of the good, and good is usually good enough.


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Re: macports-users Digest, Vol 22, Issue 6

2008-06-06 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM, 
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 Message: 14
 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:26:53 -0500
 From: Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Howto
 To: Jordan K.Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
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 We should not now add another
 wiki system with a conflicting syntax. If we wanted to switch from
 Trac wiki to MediaWiki we could discuss that, but converting all
 existing content could be difficult (though maybe someone's already
 written an importer; I haven't looked).


Do we have to discuss it? I think discussion is one of the reasons there is
no 1.6.x release (or an even more full-featured one). What format are most
of the articles in and what flavor is getting the most attention right now?
And who decided a format as simple as wiki needed to be forked or otherwise
complicated?


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Re: Suggested port command enhancement?

2008-06-05 Thread paul beard
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Daniel J. Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jun 5, 2008, at 3:43 PM, paul beard wrote:

 I don't see the difference?


 There's extra whitespace after the \ in portmirror but not in port.


OK. So that's solved. But perhaps these is an additional postflight step
needed?

[/Users/paul]# portmirror
The database doesn't exist at /opt/local/var/macports/distfiles_mirror.db
while executing
open_database
(file /opt/local/bin/portmirror line 91)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])-(01:51 PM / Thu Jun 05)
[/Users/paul]# touch /opt/local/var/macports/distfiles_mirror.db
([EMAIL PROTECTED])-(01:51 PM / Thu Jun 05)
[/Users/paul]# portmirror
deleting /opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/aalib/aalib-1.4rc5.tar.gz
deleting /opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/apache2/httpd-2.2.8.tar.bz2
deleting /opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/apr/apr-1.2.12.tar.bz2


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Re: Suggested port command enhancement?

2008-06-05 Thread paul beard
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Rainer Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sorry, I was unclear, it is not a missing backslash. There is a trailing
 whitespace after the backslash in portmirror. The backslash has to be the
 last character on the line, otherwise Tcl doesn't see the next line as
 continuation of the comment.

 Tcl interprets the backslash as an escape for the space, not for the
 newline character, so missing was really misleading here. It's hard to see
 the difference when looking at the output of head or cat.

 Fixed in r37393 for the release_1_6 branch.

 Hope this is clear now?


Yup, perfectly. Now if only these changes could be pushed out to a waiting
world hint hint


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Any word on a new release?

2008-05-31 Thread paul beard
These features that are not in 1.6 but seem pretty well-tested -- could they
be released to those of who haven't switched to the trunk? Maybe a 1.6.1
release to fix the .profile bug and add some of the other odds and ends?

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admin question: can digests be tweaked to come no more often than daily?

2008-05-22 Thread paul beard
Can the threshold for digests be bumped up so we don't get so many per day?
I have gotten as many as four digest mailing in a single day, kinda defeats
the purpose.
Thanks

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Re: Manual install

2008-05-14 Thread paul beard
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:42 PM, 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:39:48 +0200
 From: Anders F Bj?rklund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Manual install
 To: Simon Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: liste gtk macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
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 Simon Wheatley wrote:

  Is it possible to point MacPorts at a downloaded package of some
  kind and say install that? Something similar to Debian's 'dpkg -i'?

 Not at the moment... You can build a package (pkg/rpm/deb), but then
 it doesn't integrate with the already installed ports and registry
 and so goes outside or parallel to what port knows about. Or you
 can build an archive (tgz/tbz/tlz), but then you have to download and
 move it to the right directory yourself and make sure port base is
 already installed etc.

 Preferably you would use something like 'apt-get install', and that
 would download and install the binary package ? 'port -b' is supposed
 to do that, but only works with local packages yet. There is a ticket
 to implement remote archives, but it's rather stale... http://
 trac.macports.org/ticket/8571 and also http://trac.macports.org/
 ticket/10919


Just out of curiousity, what is involved in making this work? Assuming I
have the package installed and working on machine A, I could use port
contents foo and pass that to zip or tar. That gives me all the files in a
port neatly stowed in an archive. If I add the receipt file, is there a
registry that reads and manages that or is it just the text files on disk?

The reason I ask is that a. it would be very useful to have this feature,
especially on systems without a lot of horsepower (given the high degree of
standardization on this hardware, why compile anything yourself, if a
compile farm exists to do that?) and b. I have done the steps above to get
around packages that don't build, and I wonder how much cruft that
introduces.


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Re: MySQL Server Installer - found 2 repeatable bugs,

2008-05-13 Thread paul beard
Why not create a (succinct) bug report/patch diff in TRAC? I have found the
mysql/php/apache cluster to be troublesome to install and run, but never
cared enough to generate this much diagnostics (it doesn't seem to be a
pressing issue but a patch shows that a solution is possible).

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 Message: 6
 Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:52:43 -0500
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 Subject: MySQL Server Installer - found 2 repeatable bugs,  and a
couple of suggestions
 To: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
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distcc? is there a howto on using this?

2008-05-04 Thread paul beard
Is anyone successfully using this? I see it mentioned in macports.conf and
the possibilities are very tantalizing. If anyone is using it to leverage
idle cycles, it would be useful to know how well it works and how to work
it.


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Re: gnome-libs fails to install/python bindings for GNOME

2008-05-04 Thread paul beard
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Send macports-users mailing list submissions to

 Message: 4
 Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 14:17:10 +0100
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 Subject: Re: gnome-libs fails to install/python bindings for GNOME
print
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 David Rowe wrote:
  . . . .
  Does anyone have any suggestions on what port I should install to get
  the 'python bindings for GNOME print' with py25.
 
 Sorry folks, that was a touch of RTFM.

 http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Installation
 says:
 

Additional software GRAMPS can benefit from
GRAMPS does not rely on the following programs, however, having them
will increase your productivity:

* *Gnome-print*: It adds the ability to directly print, to
  preview, and to generate fully internationalized PS and PDF
  output. At this time, one needs to install
  gnome-python-desktop to obtain this package.

  .

 I have now installed gnome-python-desktop and that did the business

 David Rowe


useful to know. I would suggest that be added as a dependency, but a
Portfile for 3.0 is in testing right now so perhaps it's best to focus on
that.

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Re: [help] Writing to /opt/local/var/log/install_setup.log

2008-05-03 Thread paul beard
I would have thought logger(1) would do this but it seems not to work as
advertised.

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Re: .profile not installed

2008-04-24 Thread paul beard
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 Message: 7
 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:51:59 -0400
 From: Marco Battistella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: .profile not installed
 To: MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

 hi,
 i have just installed macport in a fresh OS X 10.3.9 server
 installation using the 1.6 package installer.
 After the installation i have noticed that no .profile has been
 installed.
 on the manual it reads:
 MacPorts requires changes to the shell environment. If MacPorts was
 installed using the Mac OS X package installer, a postflight script
 was run after installation that places a .profile file in the home
 directory, which contains the environmental variables required for
 MacPorts. If a current .profile file exists at installation time it
 is renamed to mpsaved_$timestamp.

 So that i would be able to use the port command witout specifying the
 full path i run:
 # echo export PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:$PATH 
 ~/.bash_profile

 So it works for me right now, but i would like to find out why it
 didn't install by default and is there something else that would have
 been part of the .profile file that i should add to my .bash_profile
 file?



Anyone know how many times the MacPorts installer/dmg has been downloaded
since 1.6 was released? That's a lot of people who have been bitten by this
bug. Is there any plan to release a 1.6.1 or 1.7 release to fix it?


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Re: ??? MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET environment variable set to: 10.1

2008-04-22 Thread paul beard
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 
 This should not be a problem with MacPorts trunk which passes the correct
 value for MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET to every port.

 For MacPort 1.6.0 as released, try adding this to the port:

 platform darwin 7 {
configure.env-append MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3
build.env-append MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3
 }

 platform darwin 8 {
configure.env-append MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4
build.env-append MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4
 }

 platform darwin 9 {
configure.env-append MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.5
build.env-append MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.5
 }


all the more reason to wonder when a new release will be cut off the trunk.


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Re: ruby malloc errors

2008-04-16 Thread paul beard
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 Message: 2
 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:35:00 -0700
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  How much RAM do you have installed?


 3GB total,  1.4GB free


Hmm, that seems adequate ;-)
I had this problem on another system and it was due to the ruby-docs taking
a lot of RAM to build. Once I commented or configured that out, all was
well.

Maybe comment out install-doc and see if that makes a difference?

 50 destroot.target install install-doc


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Re: ruby malloc errors

2008-04-14 Thread paul beard
 in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81864,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81865,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81866,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81867,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81868,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81869,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81870,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81871,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81872,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81873,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81874,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81875,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81876,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81877,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81878,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81879,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(81881,0x80254fa0) malloc: *** mmap(size=65536) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 tclsh(55731,0xa09c3074) malloc: *** mmap(size=16384) failed (error
 code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 unable to alloc 4096 bytes
 Abort trap



How much RAM do you have installed?
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seahorse build issues (I would have used trac, spelled c-r-a-p, but can't get a working password.)

2008-04-10 Thread paul beard
 /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../.. -DXTHREADS
-I/opt/local/include/nautilus -I/opt/local/include/glib-2.0
-I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/local/include
-I/opt/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/opt/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/opt/local/include/cairo
-I/opt/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/opt/local/include/freetype2
-I/opt/local/include/libpng12 -I/usr/X11R6/include
-DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\/opt/local/share/locale\ -I/opt/local/include -O2 -MT
seahorse-nautilus.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/seahorse-nautilus.Tpo -c
seahorse-nautilus.c  -fno-common -DPIC -o .libs/seahorse-nautilus.o
seahorse-nautilus.c:27:41: error: libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-utils.h: No such
file or directory
seahorse-nautilus.c:28:45: error: libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-file-info.h: No such
file or directory
seahorse-nautilus.c:29:39: error: libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-ops.h: No such file
or directory
make[3]: *** [seahorse-nautilus.lo] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2


kitchen:~ root#  locate gnome-vfs-file-info.h
/opt/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0/libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-file-info.h
/opt/local/share/gtk-doc/html/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-file-info.html
/opt/local/var/macports/software/gnome-vfs/2.20.1_1/opt/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0/libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-file-info.h
/opt/local/var/macports/software/gnome-vfs/2.20.1_1/opt/local/share/gtk-doc/html/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-file-info.html
kitchen:~ root# port provides
/opt/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0/libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-file-info.h
/opt/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0/libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-file-info.h is
provided by: gnome-vfs


and I reinstalled gnome-vfs already today to ensure it was all up to date.
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Re: .profile not installed; 'ports' command not found

2008-03-27 Thread paul beard
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 There is a bug in MacPorts 1.6.0 which prevents the .profile from
 being created. You'll have to create it yourself. The bug has been
 fixed in trunk but we haven't released a new version of MacPorts
 since then.


Is there a reason why a new release hasn't been cut, considering how many
new users are getting bitten by this bug?

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Re: is the avahi user creation supposed to be part of

2008-03-24 Thread paul beard
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Adam Dershowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mar 24, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Nehemiah Dacres wrote:

  why are you installing avahi?it already says on their Track that
  avahi is an implimentation of mDNS. having 2 of those on the same
  machine would clearly be a problem, simply use Bonjour. The Avahi
  mac people will simply have to make their avahi damon work around
  Bonjour becasue removing bonjour will most likely break mac os
  functionality.


 It is installed as part of a dependency chain.
 I have gimp installed, which depends on librsvg, which depends on
 gnome-vfs which in turn depends on avahi

 I don't really know why avahi is necessary (or if it actually is
 necessary), but both avahi and Bonjour seem to be working fine, and
 coexisting, on my machine.


Not sure if any of this means it has to be running, just so long as it's
installed. It doesn't look like avahi has been running here and I haven't
noticed anything missing.

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Re: is the avahi user creation supposed to be part of installing avahi?

2008-03-24 Thread paul beard
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:53 PM, nodje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thanks for the tip Adam.

 but the dbus is already started in my case:
 It's avahi-daemon that cannot start.
 For some obscure reason, it  cannot connect to dbus...


do you need it to?


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Re: [pymetar-dev] man py-metar

2008-03-23 Thread paul beard
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Charlse Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Tobias Klausmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: March 23, 2008 9:16:25 AM EDT (CA)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [pymetar-dev] man py-metar

 Hi!

 On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Charlse Darwin wrote:
  Is there any man page for py-metar? How do I use this thing

 In a way, yes. Python has its own manpage-like docs system,
 called, cunningly, pydoc.

 So pydoc pymetar should give you a manpage-like description of
 pymetars API (it's a library, so that's its primary
 documentation). In case you don't have pydoc, the package comes
 with a file called librarydoc.txt which is identical in content. As
 for a more general description, there's also a README. Where
 those files typically end up in the macports package system, I
 don't know.

  $ uname -a
  Darwin Mac.local 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10
  18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh
  powerpc
  $ metar
  -bash: metar: command not found
  $ py-metar
  -bash: py-metar: command not found

 Pymetar comes with two example scripts, called pymet and
 weather.py. Both are examples only but might be enough for what
 you need.

 Unfortunately, I don't know where macports packages usually put
 the auxillary files for installed packages. The packager might
 also have removed the examples, though I doubt it.

 Maybe someone else on the -dev list can shed a light on this?

 Regards,
 Tobias



'locate pydoc' should tell you what versions of pydoc you have. There will
be a system-supplied one in /usr/bin and MacPorts-provided ones in
/opt/local/bin, with version numbers attached. I found pydoc2.5. I couldn't
get it to run in the terminal in any useful way but running it like this:

pydoc2.5 -p81
pydoc server ready at http://localhost:81/

was useful. But for all that, I found that there was no documentation for
metar (I just installed it to see how this worked). I don't know why it
wouldn't be installed by default.

Poking around in the build directory might be informative. I would file a
bug report, as I think all modules/libs should install docs if they have
them.
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Re: [pymetar-dev] man py-metar

2008-03-23 Thread paul beard
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Charlse Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 Begin forwarded message:
 From: Tobias Klausmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: March 23, 2008 9:16:25 AM EDT (CA)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [pymetar-dev] man py-metar

 Hi!

 On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Charlse Darwin wrote:
  Is there any man page for py-metar? How do I use this thing


And as noted, there are sample scripts:
# weather.py kbfi
Weather report for Seattle, Seattle Boeing Field, WA, United States (kbfi)
as of 2008-03-23 13:53:00Z
Values of None indicate that the value is missing from the report.
Temperature: 6.7 C / 44.1 F
Rel. Humidity: 88%
Wind speed: 4.02 m/s (3 Bft)
Wind direction: 120 deg (ESE)
Pressure: 1016 hPa
Dew Point: 5.0 C / 41.0 F
Weather: rain; mist
Sky Conditions: overcast

They will likely provide a lot of useful details.

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Re: is the avahi user creation supposed to be part of installing avahi?

2008-03-23 Thread paul beard
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, nodje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had an avahi probleme due to thuis missing user.
 I recently updated avahi to 0.6.22_0 (from 0.6.17_0). It fixed the missing
 avahi
 user problem.
  But I'm still having an issue, apparently similar with Paul's one.

 Console log:
 24/03/2008 12:05:13 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd[522]
 Failed to connect to the daemon. This probably means that you
 24/03/2008 12:05:13 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd[522]
 didn't start avahi-daemon before avahi-dnsconfd.
 24/03/2008 12:05:13 PM com.apple.launchd[1]
 (org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd[522]) Exited with exit code: 1
 24/03/2008 12:05:13 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (
 org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd)
 Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon[523]
 Found user 'avahi' (UID 502) and group 'avahi' (GID 502).
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon[523]
 Successfully dropped root privileges.
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon[523] avahi-daemon
 0.6.22
  starting up.
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon[523]
 WARNING: No NSS support for mDNS detected, consider installing nss-mdns!
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon[523]
 dbus_bus_get_private(): Failed to connect to socket
 /opt/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon[523] WARNING:
 Failed to contact D-Bus daemon.
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM com.apple.launchd[1]
 (org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon[523]) Exited with exit code: 255
 24/03/2008 12:05:14 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon)
 Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 24/03/2008 12:05:23 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd[524] connect():
 No such file or directory
 24/03/2008 12:05:23 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd[524]
 Failed to connect to the daemon. This probably means that you
 24/03/2008 12:05:23 PM org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd[524] didn't start
 avahi-daemon before avahi-dnsconfd.
 24/03/2008 12:05:23 PM com.apple.launchd[1]
 (org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd[524]) Exited with exit code: 1

 Would reinstall avahi solve the problem?
 I have seen very few thread about the topic.
 Paul, did you manage to get a working asahi?

 Thanks,

 --nodje


To be honest, I'm not sure. This seems to be one of those areas where
MacPorts and Apple duplicate each other's efforts. I don't know if avahi is
supposed to do anything other than just be installed so other applications
don't grumble. An mDNS responder exists on OS X, anyway.
At the moment, my avahi isn't even running, for some reason. I don't know if
it matters or not.

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Re: changing perl path to /opt/local/bin/perl5.8.8

2008-03-22 Thread paul beard
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 come on , i just changed

 #!/usr/bin/perl

 to

 #!/opt/local/bin/perl5.8.8




You asked:

 I need to change the systemwide variable for using perl5.8.8 to


*

/opt/local/bin/perl5.8.8

*


instead of using


*

/usr/bin/perl5.8.8

*


could someone provide me a  comand line  for dummys to change it ;) ?


And that's what changing your PATH will do. The instructions that Ryan sent
you to aren't optional. MacPorts is not guaranteed to work without that
(indeed, without the right PATH, nothing will work properly).

If you're going to ask for help, take it when it's offered.
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Re: changing perl path to /opt/local/bin/perl5.8.8

2008-03-21 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello list,

 i would like to run a little analysis tool  whitch is writen in perl on
 my leopard ppc mac. After upgrading my perl librarys *)  on OSX PPC with
 macports
 I need to change the systemwide variable for using perl5.8.8 to

 */opt/local/bin/perl5.8.8 *

 instead of using

 */usr/bin/perl5.8.8*

 could someone provide me a  comand line  for dummys to change it ;) ?


use the PATH, Luke.

What does echo $PATH tell you?


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Re: how to delete deactivated ports

2008-03-20 Thread paul beard
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 I wish you wouldn't indiscriminately use the -f (force) flag all the
 time. If it were intended to be used all the time it would have been
 made the default. In particular it should only be needed for port -f
 uninstall inactive. It should not be needed for clean, and the only
 times it would be needed for upgrade are in unusual situations, which
 you would probably want to handle by hand individually rather than
 automate.


I non-concur on this: I think -f should be the default on upgrades (if you
don't mean it, don't ask for it). It's confusing, in case the regular flow
of questions on this hasn't made clear. Ideally, you wouldn't need any
flags: port upgrade foo would Just Work. I would put clean in a central
config file as well: I suspect this isn't done on a port by port basis.
Are there cases where you don't need -f on upgrades? I generally find I have
to use it all the time if I am upgrading anything.


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Re: GCC compilation time

2008-03-20 Thread paul beard
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:47 PM, James Sumners [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 GCC can take a _long_ time to compile.


Um, yeah. The first I ever tried to build a new gcc, it took me several
*days*. But that was a long time ago and a hardware platform far far away
(you kids ever use a SPARCstation 20?).

Yes, it will take a long time. An hour is nothing to a gcc compile job. It
will finish in hours, not days, but it's a big job.
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Re: gtk2 compilation failed

2008-03-20 Thread paul beard
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Alejandro Aragon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I was trying to build pidgin, and when compiling gtk2 I had the
 following error:

 i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: /usr/X11/lib/libXrandr.2.0.0.dylib: No
 such file or directory
 make[4]: *** [libgdk-x11-2.0.la] Error 1

 I'm new to Mac OS so I was wondering why this library is not there. Is
 there an easy way to fix this?



You installed the X11 SDK when you installed XCode? And have the latest X11
installed?
[/Users/paul]:: locate libXrandr
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.3.9.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.2.0.dylib
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.3.9.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.2.dylib
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.3.9.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.a
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.3.9.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.dylib
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.2.0.dylib
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.2.dylib
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.a
/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.dylib
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.2.0.dylib
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.2.dylib
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.a
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.dylib

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ticket 14547 (libgnomecups printing problem)

2008-03-19 Thread paul beard
Anyone in a position to verify and commit that patch that's with this
ticket?

http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/14547

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Re: how to delete deactivated ports

2008-03-19 Thread paul beard
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM, J P Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 (a novice question)

 I installed a package (py25-matplotlib), had some trouble with using it,
 then did a port selfupdate,

 then upgraded the package.   In the process, a number of packages were
 deactivated.

 For example, it looks like I now have two copies of python25, numpy,
 3 copies of libpng, etc.

 How can I uninstall these now (to clean up and save disk space)?

 For example
 port uninstall python25 @2.5.1_2+darwin_8
 says that I cannot uninstall this (deactivated) python because other
 things
 depend on it.

 Most of those things are things that I'm actively using (py-readline for
 example).

 should I uninstall and reinstall all of these?   If so, it seems like
 upgrading is a bad
 strategy, one can save work by uninstalling and reinstalling?


port -f uninstall inactive should do it.

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Re: Kismet on OSX 10.5.1 Leopard

2008-03-16 Thread paul beard
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:26 PM, walts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I followed the instructions and did not notice any errors in setting up
 libpcap.  Here's what I get:


does the Kismac binary work with 10.5.x?
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Re: Kismet on OSX 10.5.1 Leopard

2008-03-16 Thread paul beard
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Walt Scrivens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm pretty comfortable with command-line and green-screen interfaces so I
 haven't tried it so far.


Me too, but sometimes it's worth trying a known-good solution to isolate
problems.

 I just downloaded and installed R65 (there are several versions shown in
 my google search and that seemed to be the highest number).


Hmm, I have r239 . . . it seems to work just fine. latest version seems to
be 242 http://tehbin.com/Bin/KisMAC/trunk/.


 In any event, here is the error I got:

 KisMAC is not able to load the Apple Airport driver, if you killed it by
 loading the Viha driver. Try restarting KisMAC.

 The error dialog box kept on popping up over and over, so I force-quit
 Kismac and restarted it, with the same result.


I have never had a problem with it (late 2003 iBook, Airport Extreme card,
10.4.11).

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Re: Kismet on OSX 10.5.1 Leopard

2008-03-16 Thread paul beard
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Walt Scrivens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That worked!  I have only my own home network to look at here - will have
 to wait until I get to work tomorrow where I have a more robust test
 environment to really give this a workout, but it looks promising.  Thanks
 for the help!


No problem. A walk around the block can be informative as well (I think I
counted 30-something networks last time I tried it).
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Re: Upgrade to Leopard mostly smooth, but has small glitch

2008-03-07 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mar 7, 2008, at 14:31, Bill Hernandez wrote:

   I just installed Leopard on iMacG5 and everything went off very well.
  
   However when I restarted and looked at all the usual preferences, I
   launched the terminal and tried :


  Did I understand correctly that you had Tiger, installed MacPorts and
  several ports, and now upgraded to Leopard and are trying to continue
  using the ports that were already installed? If so, I can't recommend
  that. I suggest reinstalling MacPorts and your ports from scratch.
  Ports may need to build differently on each version of Mac OS X.


That seems really cumbersome. If it is necessary, any way that the
MacPorts team could whip up a script to migrate ports to a new OS
release?

or will a simple for loop (for i in `port installed`; do . . . ) do it?

But on to the OP's question, httpd is running? What do those lines do
if you run them in the Terminal?

% export ULIMIT_MAX_FILES=ulimit -S -n `ulimit -H -n`
% echo $ULIMIT_MAX_FILES

and as a hint, if you install BBedit's command line tools, you can
simply type edit filename instead of all that other stuff. Or use
TextWrangler, for those who are short of coin. It has the same
facility.
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Re: MacPorts caching of distfiles [was Re: ntfs-3g 1.1120 source missing]

2008-02-26 Thread paul beard


On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:29 PM, Rainer Müller wrote:


Why are you against adding more logic to the fetch code?


given the oft-stated lack of hackers on the MacPorts base, insisting  
on this without stepping up to do the work to make it happen doesn't  
do much.


If you have an itch to hack on base/ there are more pressing needs, I  
think 

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Re: anyone seeing issues with ruby not building?

2008-02-22 Thread paul beard
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Paul Guyot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It sounds like an old problem with the ruby port. You need to
 deactivate the old version first.


I don't think that's it. I have gone so far as to uninstall ruby and I get
the same result.


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anyone seeing issues with ruby not building?

2008-02-21 Thread paul beard
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This is after several iterations of sync/clean/build/repeat.

- ---  Staging ruby into destroot
Error: Target org.macports.destroot returned: shell command  cd / 
opt/local/var/macports/build/ 
_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_lang_ru 
by/work/ruby-1.8.6-p111  make install install-doc DESTDIR=/opt/ 
local/var/macports/build/ 
_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_lang_ru 
by/work/destroot  returned error 2
Command output: ./miniruby  ./instruby.rb --dest-dir=/opt/local/var/ 
macports/build/ 
_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_lang_ru 
by/work/destroot --extout=.ext --make=make --mflags= --make- 
flags=DESTDIR=/opt/local/var/macports/build/ 
_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_lang_ru 
by/work/destroot --installed-list .installed.list --mantype=doc
installing binary commands
installing command scripts
installing library scripts
installing headers
installing manpages
installing extension objects
installing extension scripts
Generating RDoc documentation
./miniruby  ./runruby.rb --extout=.ext -- ./bin/rdoc --all --ri -- 
op .ext/rdoc .
dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _snprintf$LDBLStub
   Referenced from: /opt/local/var/macports/build/ 
_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_lang_ru 
by/work/ruby-1.8.6-p111/libruby.dylib
   Expected in: flat namespace

dyld: Symbol not found: _snprintf$LDBLStub
   Referenced from: /opt/local/var/macports/build/ 
_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_lang_ru 
by/work/ruby-1.8.6-p111/libruby.dylib
   Expected in: flat namespace

make: *** [rdoc] Trace/BPT trap

Error: Unable to upgrade port: 1

[/Users/paul]# uname -a
Darwin tichy.paulbeard.org 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed  
Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power  
Macintosh powerpc
([EMAIL PROTECTED])-(10:06 PM / Thu Feb 21)
[/Users/paul]# gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Target: powerpc-apple-darwin8
Configured with: /private/var/tmp/gcc/gcc-5367.obj~1/src/configure -- 
disable-checking -enable-werror --prefix=/usr --mandir=/share/man -- 
enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ --program-transform-name=/^[cg] 
[^.-]*$/s/$/-4.0/ --with-gxx-include-dir=/include/c++/4.0.0 --with- 
slibdir=/usr/lib --build=powerpc-apple-darwin8 --host=powerpc-apple- 
darwin8 --target=powerpc-apple-darwin8
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5367)

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unpleasant surprises: no ports are installed

2008-02-19 Thread paul beard
Something has come undone in my efforts to get the MAMP stack re-installed.

[/opt/local/var/macports/receipts]# port installed | more
Error: port installed failed: Registry error: php5 @
5.2.5_1+apache2+darwin_8+macosx+mysql5 not registered as installed.
No ports are installed.

This looks worse than it is. It looked like a couple of malformed receipts
in php5 (5.2.5_1+apache2+darwin_8+macosx+mysql5, 5.2.5_1+apache2+macosx) had
blocked things up. Once I removed them, the list of installed ports is
available.

Seems to me that either bad receipts (which I think is actually a case of a
malformed installation/wrong variants) should not be written (the port
request would exit before doing anything wrong) or the parsing process would
ignore them rather than bombing out.

The bits are all installed: it's now just a matter of getting them
recognized by the infrastructure.
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Re: {Disarmed} unpleasant surprises: no ports are installed

2008-02-19 Thread paul beard
On Feb 19, 2008 9:32 AM, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 The FreeBSD ports tree has a tool to address such things-- pkgdb -F
 tends to sort 'em out quickly.  Is there a MacPorts equivalent to this?


yes, i have used that many times. it might be a worthwhile RFE for the next
release of MacPorts.


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Re: Specifying an install directory

2008-02-11 Thread paul beard
On Feb 10, 2008 8:39 PM, Eric Soli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am attempting to install pear-base into /usr/bin
 instead of /opt/local/bin. My best understanding from
 the man page is that I should use:

 bash$ sudo port -D /usr/bin install pear-base

 but it still ends up in /opt/local. Is there a way
 plant this pear tree next to /usr/bin/php?


You don't say why you want to do this or why the source tarball/distribution
doesn't work for you. It looks, from reading the INSTALL file, that it is
best installed by and within the php process.

 Unix



make sure you have enabled default extensions, and if you want faster

downloads, enable the zlib extension.  You must also enable the CLI

SAPI with the --enable-cli extension directive.  After this, simply run:


make install-pear


and PEAR will be automatically configured for you.


go-pear

===

For users who cannot perform the above steps, or who wish to obtain the

latest PEAR with a slightly higher risk of failure, use go-pear.  go-pear

is obtained by downloading http://go-pear.org and saving it as go-pear.php.

After downloading, simply run php go-pear.php or open it in a web browser

(windows only) to download and install PEAR.


Seems like you could use the system php to perform the second operation.
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Re: Specifying an install directory

2008-02-11 Thread paul beard
a

On Feb 10, 2008 8:39 PM, Eric Soli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am attempting to install pear-base into /usr/bin
 instead of /opt/local/bin. My best understanding from
 the man page is that I should use:

 bash$ sudo port -D /usr/bin install pear-base

 but it still ends up in /opt/local. Is there a way
 plant this pear tree next to /usr/bin/php?


what does /usr/bin/pear not provide? Comparing /usr/bin/pear with the one I
just built in destroot doesn't show much difference.


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Re: Specifying an install directory

2008-02-11 Thread paul beard
On Feb 11, 2008 4:04 PM, Eric Soli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Paul

 I tried the instructions in the distrbution, but the 'make' command
 failed. I'll be poring over this:
 http://www.cs.utah.edu/dept/old/texinfo/make/make_toc.html   the man
 pages for a while.



well, the docs are quite stale. the go-pear.org domain is expired and for
sale, so that's busted.


 Does pear run well from /opt/local? I am trying to build a *AMP stack.
 (DAMP for Darwin?) It just looks like less re-configuring if it runs from
 the same directory as php.


I don't see why it wouldn't. Is there some reason to run the stock Apple php
(PHP 4.4.7 ) vs  a more recent and perhaps more extensible one?

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Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-06 Thread paul beard
On Feb 6, 2008 5:17 AM, David Corking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He is known for exaggeration.  He once called all C++ programmers
 unspeakable names on a mailing list.

 However if you like his designs, there is an ext2 fs driver for Mac OS X!

 I personally am I bit frustrated with HFS+, as I experienced
 first-hand the limits of its fsck utility (*).   But I am no
 filesystem expert, and my one anecdote would not be enough to justify
 a 'crappy' label.

  if people seriously ask you to consider linux, ask them which one and
 why that one and not the others.

 They could ask you why you prefer macports over fink or even FreeBSD.
 Be ready to answer!


[OT]
I use FreeBSD and like it just fine: in fact that's one of the reason I use
[Mac|Darwin]Ports. fink was fine but once it became a leaderless mob, I
left. So I have tried the two ports systems that have traction, and have a
choice. Now let's talk about hundreds of Linux distros . . . .  ;-)
[/OT]
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Re: libIDL woes

2008-02-06 Thread paul beard
On Feb 5, 2008 6:14 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The problem has not been worked around. The bug is still open:

 http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/14144

 The problems that were worked around were the unable to infer tagged
 configuration bug affecting apache2, mjpegtools and possibly others.
 These were fixed by bumping the revision of apr and libtool to force
 their rebuild.

 The libidl bug is a different and unrelated bug. libidl is
 unmaintained so someone will have to volunteer to figure out what's
 breaking, and how to fix it. Actually, Tod Morrison just posted in
 the bug that he found a reason why it's failing, and a workaround,
 but not yet a fix that we can apply to the portfile.


howsomever, it upgraded just fine two days ago: I assumed it was fixed.

The following ports are currently installed:
  libidl @0.8.10_0 (active)




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Re: Is HFS really scary?

2008-02-05 Thread paul beard
On Feb 5, 2008 8:32 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *sigh*
 If Linus Torvalds had said that HFS ate babies and eroded the moral fiber
 of the nation's youth, would you still be asking this question?  Probably
 not, since that would be clearly recognizable hyperbole.   Him saying it's
 complete and utter crap without any supporting evidence or even any
 specifics, however, evidently merits some sort of serious response, does it?
 :-)

 Perhaps you should ask your boss whether he follows all the successful
 deployments (both enterprise and otherwise) of XServes or if he follows the
 random pronouncements of someone who had nothing to do with the development
 of MacOSX, does not use it, and in fact is seriously biased against anything
 but the OS he *did* create.  Hardly the most objective opinion.



Linus is a bomb-thrower, and I'm sure my opinion that Linux is complete and
utter crap carries just as weight with him as his comments should with you.
if people seriously ask you to consider linux, ask them which one and why
that one and not the others. That should keep them out of your hair for
quite some time.

Seriously, HFS has been around an awfully long time in a lot of places to be
so crappy.
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Re: libtool woes

2008-02-04 Thread paul beard
On Feb 4, 2008 10:33 AM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 libtool's revision has been bumped so that everyone will be forced to
 rebuild it so that this problem should disappear.


This is confusing to me, since the libtool that is crapping out is ./libtool
(relative to the port's build directory). Where does the ports-installed
libtool enter into it?

Interestingly, I just found that libidl built without issue on another
system here (also PPC, also 10.4.11).

kitchen:~ root# port installed | grep libidl
  libidl @0.8.10_0 (active)

This makes me wonder why two systems are having issues and one isn't. G4
good, G5 bad: also the G4s have been using MacPorts for quite awhile (since
it was DarwinPorts). Could there be some conflicting cruft in there
somewhere?

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Re: libtool woes

2008-02-03 Thread paul beard
On Feb 3, 2008 8:29 AM, Anders F Björklund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Rebuilding libtool might also work, haven't tried that either.


I have. It doesn't help.

How do you use the configure args you posted? Just on the commandline?

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Re: libtool woes

2008-02-03 Thread paul beard
On Feb 3, 2008 1:24 PM, David Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Ryan Schmidt-24 wrote:
 
  unable to infer tagged configuration when trying to build apache2
  is already filed:
  http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/13653
  ...[snip]...
  Both tickets include lots of discussion. The apache2 ticket includes
  patches which someone said worked.
  Neither maintainer has responded to the tickets. Looks like it's time
  for someone else to commit the fixes. Probably not me, since I'm not
  experiencing the issue.
 

 As an inexperienced MacPorter, I would like advice on what to do, in view
 of
 my need for apache2.
 Possible strategies:
 1) Wait for someone to put the advertised patches into the official
 macport
 distribution.
 2) Install the advertised patches. (Are there instructions somewhere for
 how
 to do this?)
 3) Try rebuilding libtool. (But won't port object to deleting libtool
 because other packages depend on it?)



I am trying this regime: sudo port -f uninstall libtool
sudo port -f uninstall apr
sudo port install libtool
sudo port install apr
sudo port clean apache2
sudo port upgrade apache2

port -f overrides any complaints (on your #3 above).

if peter o'gorman's diagnosis above is correct, how can this be fixed in a
more systematic manner?
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SOLVED: libtool woes

2008-02-03 Thread paul beard
On Feb 3, 2008 1:33 PM, paul beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I am trying this regime: sudo port -f uninstall libtool
 sudo port -f uninstall apr
 sudo port install libtool
 sudo port install apr
 sudo port clean apache2
 sudo port upgrade apache2


This seems to work.



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libtool woes

2008-02-02 Thread paul beard
Looks like I have some problem with libtool. libIDL and Apache2 both fail to
upgrade.
---  Building apache2 with target all
Error: Target org.macports.build returned: shell command  cd
/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8  make all  returned error 2
Command output: Making all in srclib
Making all in os
Making all in unix
/opt/local/share/apr-1/build/libtool --silent --mode=compile /usr/bin/gcc-
4.0 -I/opt/local/include  -O2  -DDARWIN -DSIGPROCMASK_SETS_THREAD_MASK
-no-cpp-precomp  -I/opt/local/include  -I.
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/os/unix
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/server/mpm/prefork
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/http
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/filters
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/proxy
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/include
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/generators
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/mappers
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/database -I/opt/local/include/apr-1 -I/opt/local/include
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/server
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/proxy/../generators
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/ssl
-I/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_www_apache2/work/httpd-
2.2.8/modules/dav/main  -prefer-non-pic -static -c unixd.c  touch unixd.lo
libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
make[3]: *** [unixd.lo] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

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Re: MacPorts High-speed Connection

2008-01-27 Thread paul beard
On Jan 27, 2008 6:41 AM, Charlse Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any configuration to let MacPorts know that it's on a high-
 speed bandwidth and it can start downloading everything it needs all
 at once and then get on with installing later?
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man port(1) and look at the fetch option. Don't know if it does exactly what
you want.
   fetch
 Fetches the distribution files required to build portname.

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Re: Re: [MacPorts] #14062: Website does not render properly in IE7

2008-01-24 Thread paul beard
On Jan 24, 2008 12:47 PM, Mark Hattam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 If I save the offered downloaded file to disk ... change the .php
 into .htm (or .html) ... the file then opens up in IE7 and renders
 everything.
 
 Changing the relative links for the .css etc to absolute links,
 makes it look good too.
 
 In doing so, I haven't changed the xml  at the top of the file.
 That's still there and IE7 doesn't appear to mind.
 
 So the difference is that IE7 doesn't understand or mis-interprets
 the type of file being sent from the server, and thinks that it
 can't render it. Other php pages (on other sites) work fine (usually
 :-) ), but the server is sending something different here.
 
 Mark
 
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 At 19:47 + 24/1/08, MacPorts wrote:
 #14062: Website does not render properly in IE7

 --+-
Reporter:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |   Owner:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Type:  defect   |  Status:  new
Priority:  Normal   |   Milestone:  Website 
 Documentation
   Component:  website  | Version:
 Resolution:   |Keywords:  ie7 windows
 content-type

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 Changes (by [EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
   * cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (added)
* owner:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* component:  server/hosting = website
 
 Comment:
 
   I'm sure that's because of the `echo ?xml version=\1.0\
   encoding=\$encoding\?\n;` declaration at the top of each of our
 pages,
   which I crafted to strictly adhere to the XHTML standard, not caring
 too
   much about how bad IE handles that particular line, I admit. I don't
 think
   it's a server level PHP issue or anything of the sort.
 
   Personally I have no feeling about catering to such a broken browser
 as IE
   (there's always Firefox for Windows ;-), but I guess we could remove
 that
   line even if only for the purpose of giving MacPorts a wider
 net-surfing
   audience...
 
   -jmpp


There's an interesting discussion of IE7/8/whatever and its rendering
strategy here http://rc3.org/2008/01/23/the-implications-of-ie8/.

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Ticket #13984: ffmpeg fails to compile [ld: Undefined symbols: _av_crc_get_table]

2008-01-18 Thread paul beard
I just opened this ticket against ffmpeg, as I didn't find any other tickets
that matched my issue.

ld: Undefined symbols:
_av_crc_get_table
/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
make[1]: *** [libavcodec.51.dylib] Error 1
make: *** [lib] Error 2

http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/13984

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Re: How to Get Mac Apps on the Mac OS X Dock?

2008-01-18 Thread paul beard
well, the fact remains that installing the Aqua bits for the Gimp uses all
of 196k of disk space: is there any compelling reason *not* to install it by
default?

[/Applications/MacPorts]# du -sk Gimp.app/
196 Gimp.app/

Especially when you consider that, deep in the bowels of all that stuff, you
find a script[*] that simply runs the command-line app.

/Applications/MacPorts/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/script

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Re: How to Get Mac Apps on the Mac OS X Dock?

2008-01-16 Thread paul beard
On Jan 16, 2008 6:26 AM, Jeffrey Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have successfully compiled gimp (!!) and I would like to put it's icon
 on the Mac OS X Dock.  Dragging the /opt/local/bin/gimp shortcut doesn't
 work.  How would I create a Gimp Icon button on my dock?  Thanks!


is there a Gimp in your /Applications/MacPorts folder?

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Re: How to Get Mac Apps on the Mac OS X Dock?

2008-01-16 Thread paul beard
On Jan 16, 2008 12:13 PM, Jeffrey Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No the gimp executable is in /opt/local/bin/gimp.


[/Users/paul]:: port provides
/Applications/MacPorts/Gimp.app/Contents/Info.plist
/Applications/MacPorts/Gimp.app/Contents/Info.plist is provided by: gimp-app

Yes, but the gimp-app port saves you from having to create an Applescript
wrapper by making a wrapper of its own and installing it where you would
expect it.

Someone has already done all this for, if you installed the meta-port.
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Re: How to Get Mac Apps on the Mac OS X Dock?

2008-01-16 Thread paul beard
On Jan 16, 2008 10:16 PM, William Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Did you bother to look in /Applications/MacPorts?
 The MacPorts gimp port *also* installs Gimp.App in that location whose
 icon you would have seen if you had bothered to look.


I'm not sure the gimp port does by default: I think it's the meta-port. But
the description of gimp vs gimp-app doesn't make it clear to me.
[/Users/paul]:: port info gimp
gimp 2.4, Revision 3, graphics/gimp (Variants: universal, macosx, animation)
http://www.gimp.org/

This is a META port for the gimp2 which includes help and documentation,
support for icns, jp2000 and RAW formats, content-aware rescaling Gutenprint
and scanner frontends and even a nice theme (Nodoka). Mac OS X users also
get a Gimp.app bundle, a Show in Finder menu and clipboard integration.

Library Dependencies: icns-gimp, gimp-jp2, gimp-lqr-plugin,
gimp-user-manual, gtk-nodoka-engine, gutenprint, ufraw, xsane, gimp-app,
macclipboard-gimp, macfile-gimp
Platforms: darwin
Maintainers: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Using Leopard's ruby with Macports' ruby libraries

2008-01-13 Thread paul beard
On Jan 13, 2008 5:49 AM, Douglas Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  As the subject states, I'm looking to find a way to use Leopard's ruby
 with Macport's ruby libraries like rb-rubygems, rb-mysql, et al. The main
 reason for doing this is so that I can use DTrace probes for ruby
 applications.

 Would a DTraced ruby be in the horizon for Macports?


I don't have Leopard and won't see it for quite some time. What does it take
to make an app DTrace-able? Is this something that can be done in the port?


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Re: ocaml fails on Tiger (was: Re: sudo port install mldonkey)

2008-01-04 Thread paul beard


On Jan 4, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Charlse Darwin wrote:

I get the message here that say `Software was successfully  
installed' for ocml. Why can't they put the same thing on MacPorts  
server?


Also README file of the ocaml.package says this:

Files will be installed in the following directories:
/usr/local/bin - command-line executables
/usr/local/lib/ocaml - library and support files
/usr/local/man - manual pages

Is there any way to move the stuff manually?

Does ocaml come with an ocaml-config binary that might explain how  
those porters got it to work? Or, perhaps easiest, ask them what  
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Re: Standardizing a MacPorts system

2008-01-03 Thread paul beard
On Jan 3, 2008 12:17 PM, Tabitha McNerney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all --

 I would like to build, from source, on an Xserve running Leopard Server, a
 standard MacPorts system that could be deployed, in an organization, on
 numerous other Apple servers running the same version of the OS ( e.g.
 Leopard Server). In doing so I would use Apple's command-line tools (such as
 hdiutil and asr) create a restorable disk image (.dmg) file of a disc volume
 that hangs off an external disk on my original Xserve which houses the
 MacPorts prefix ( e.g., /opt/local). I would then restore from this disc
 image to the additional machines slated to be the recipients of the original
 standard.


I wonder if some combination of nfs (to mount your master repository), rsync
(to update your local store) and some voodoo with a regex to update any
files that are tied to hostnames (all your master builds might be tagged
with master or changeme).


 I don't see any immediate problems in doing so, however I have noticed
 when installing some ports (when I have occasionally enabled verbose mode
 -v during the install), depending on the port, some ports seem to take
 into consideration the Hostname of the Xserve I'm running it on. On my
 Xserve running Leopard Server, the Hostname is very importantly tied to the
 DNS name because I am running Apple's DNS server that is buncled with
 Leopard Server since I need it for other services on the machine which are
 not directly related to MacPorts such as running an OpenDirectory Master.
 The problem is, with hundreds of MacPorts tied together and with complex
 dependency chains, how can anyone determine when a specific MacPort reads
 the hostname and uses the hostname of the machine during the configuration
 process (unless a sys admin such as myself builds each and every port with
 verbose mode and analysis the output grepping for the hostname)? It might be
 problematic if the hostname of any given MacPort somehow becomes hard
 wired into the port itself during the configuration / install processing.
 Then again, I might be making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 Has anyone else built a Standardized MacPorts system that is cloned to
 multiple Macs?

 Thanks,

 T.M.



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Re: Standardizing a MacPorts system

2008-01-03 Thread paul beard
On Jan 3, 2008 6:22 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I wasn't aware that any ports tied themselves to the build system's
 hostname. That would be problematic as well if we started to
 distribute binaries of ports. Then again, I'm only familiar with a
 small minority of our ports collection.

 With which ports have you observed this problem?

 Aren't you the maintainer of the mysql port?

[/opt/local/var/db/mysql5]# ls
.turd_mysql5ibdata1 test
ib_logfile0 localhost.err   white.paulbeard.org.err
ib_logfile1 mysql

There may well be others but this one came to mind immediately.
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Re: Standardizing a MacPorts system

2008-01-03 Thread paul beard
On Jan 3, 2008 8:21 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 3, 2008, at 22:13, paul beard wrote:

  On Jan 3, 2008 6:22 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 
  I wasn't aware that any ports tied themselves to the build system's
  hostname. That would be problematic as well if we started to
  distribute binaries of ports. Then again, I'm only familiar with a
  small minority of our ports collection.
 
  With which ports have you observed this problem?
 
  Aren't you the maintainer of the mysql port?

 Yes I am.

  [/opt/local/var/db/mysql5]# ls
  .turd_mysql5ibdata1 test
  ib_logfile0 localhost.err
  white.paulbeard.org.err
  ib_logfile1 mysql
 
  There may well be others but this one came to mind immediately.

 MySQL writes logfiles whose names contain the hostname, yes. The
 hostname is not, however, to the best of my knowledge, encoded into
 any files installed by the MySQL ports. There should be no problem
 installing MySQL on one system and running it on another. The two
 systems will merely use separate logfiles by default -- which is in
 fact probably a good thing, isn't it? If it isn't, there's probably a
 way to have MySQL write to a logfile of a name of your choosing.
 Consult the MySQL documentation.

 I'm not that interested in a solution to a problem I don't have. But the
inferred question was, do any ports make use of the hostname. it looks like
mysql derives it when it creates the file (I tested it). I'm not sure this
one admittedly thin example answers the OP's question.



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Re: So who owns the macports Wordpress/TRAC system?

2007-12-30 Thread paul beard
On Dec 29, 2007 12:08 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Dec 29, 2007, at 06:31, Boey Maun Suang wrote:

  any problems with the system as a whole can be filed as a ticket on
  Trac,
  with component set to the newly-created Server/Hosting category.

 You mean the server/hosting Component.

 No Milestone seems to be appropriate to this Component. Do we just
 leave the Milestone blank? Or does this fall under the Website 
 Documentation Milestone?


Hmm, it all sounds pretty inconclusive ;-)  Anyone in PortMgr want to take a
stab at this?


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tone generator?

2007-12-29 Thread paul beard
Is there, in the ever-increasing galaxy of MacPorts, a tone generator than
can be used to tune a wireless network?

Briefly, the idea is to play a tone based on the signal strength, with
higher pitches for better signal, etc. Not sure how to do this in OS X.

http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10283

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Re: Problems compiling Python25 MPlayer on 10.5 with Case-sensitive filesystem

2007-12-23 Thread paul beard
On Dec 23, 2007 8:56 AM, Scott C. Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well, I re-installed XCode 3.0 and then re did the sudo find / -ls 
 new_find.txt to see what files were added.

 Macintosh:~ sck$ grep -i quicktime/quicktime.h find.txt new_find.txt
 find.txt:5776618 -rw-rw-r--1 _devdocs wheel 218 May
 2  2007
 /Developer/Documentation/DocSets/com.apple.ADC_Reference_Library.CoreReference.docset/Contents/Resources/Documents/documentation/QuickTime/QuickTime.html
 find.txt:5139498 lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel  77 Oct 29
 23:50
 /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/Developer/Headers/CFMCarbon/QuickTime/QuickTime.h
 -
 ../../../../System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Headers/QuickTime.h
 new_find.txt:41021178 -rw-rw-r--1 _devdocs wheel 218
 May  2  2007
 /Developer/Documentation/DocSets/com.apple.ADC_Reference_Library.CoreReference.docset/Contents/Resources/Documents/documentation/QuickTime/QuickTime.html
 new_find.txt:41196218 lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel  77
 Dec 23 07:34
 /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.3.9.sdk/Developer/Headers/CFMCarbon/QuickTime/QuickTime.h
 -
 ../../../../System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Headers/QuickTime.h
 new_find.txt:40386508 lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel  77
 Dec 23 07:31
 /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/Developer/Headers/CFMCarbon/QuickTime/QuickTime.h
 -
 ../../../../System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Headers/QuickTime.h
 Macintosh:~ sck$

 So, according to find, there's only the new 10.3 sdk file added...

 Originally when I did the XCode install I did not install WebObjects or
 10.3 SDK, but this time I installed everything and it worked...

 So, officially, I don't understand, but I comply and am happy... :)


It's software: it doesn't have to make sense. This is looking like a FAQ or
FEP (frequently encountered problem).


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Re: sudo port install bing

2007-12-18 Thread paul beard
On Dec 18, 2007 12:08 PM, Charlse Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 $ sudo port install bing
 ---  Fetching bing
 ---  Attempting to fetch bing-1.0.5.tar.gz from http://
 www.freenix.org/reseau/
 ---  Attempting to fetch bing-1.0.5.tar.gz from http://
 svn.macports.org/repository/macports/distfiles/bing
 ---  Attempting to fetch bing-1.0.5.tar.gz from http://
 svn.macports.org/repository/macports/distfiles/general/
 ---  Attempting to fetch bing-1.0.5.tar.gz from http://
 svn.macports.org/repository/macports/downloads/bing
 Error: Target org.macports.fetch returned: fetch failed
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
 $

This isn't the most helpful error message you could have composed, Charlse.

It looks like freenix.org redirects to here (
http://www.usenix.org/events/bytopic/freenix.html)

kitchen:~ paul$ ping freenix.org
PING freenix.org (208.67.219.130): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 208.67.219.130: icmp_seq=0 ttl=241 time=64.320 ms
64 bytes from 208.67.219.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=63.792 ms
^C
--- freenix.org ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 63.792/64.056/64.320/0.264 ms


and that www.freenix.org is unreachable.

Connection closed by foreign host.
kitchen:~ paul$ ping www.freenix.org
PING www.freenix.org (194.57.169.110): 56 data bytes
36 bytes from or-angers-nantes.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.182.149): Destination
Net Unreachable
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks  Src  Dst
 4  5  00 0054 452d   0   30  01 0e4a 192.168.10.226  194.57.169.110

36 bytes from or-angers-nantes.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.182.149): Destination
Net Unreachable
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks  Src  Dst
 4  5  00 0054 4533   0   30  01 0e44 192.168.10.226  194.57.169.110

36 bytes from or-angers-nantes.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.182.149): Destination
Net Unreachable
Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks  Src  Dst
 4  5  00 0054 4553   0   30  01 0e24 192.168.10.226  194.57.169.110

^C
--- www.freenix.org ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

and looking at the port's information, I can find out where the project is
based and find out that that server is the same as the unreachable one
above.

kitchen:~ paul$ port info bing
bing 1.0.5, net/bing (Variants: universal)
http://www.freenix.fr/freenix/logiciels/bing.html

Bing is a point-to-point bandwidth measurement tool (hence the 'b'), based
on ping. Bing determines the real (raw, as opposed to available or average)
throughput on a link by measuring ICMP echo requests roundtrip times for
different packet sizes for each end of the link.

and it looks like the project may be dormant.
Subcategory: Bandwidth / Throughput Measurement

bing

*URL:*http://fgouget.free.fr/bing/index-en.shtml*Contact:*Author: Pierre
Beyssac ( pb @ fasterix.freenix.fr )*Overview:*Bing is a point-to-point
bandwidth measurement tool (hence the 'b'), based on ping. Bing determines
the real (raw, as opposed to available or average) throughput on a link by
measuring ICMP echo requests roundtrip times for different packet sizes for
each end of the link.*Access:*Original page is no longer maintained. A
mirror exists for Bing 1.3.5http://fgouget.free.fr/bing/bing_src-1.3.5.tar.gz
.


But there is a mirror listed there. You may want incorporate that into the
Portfile and see if it works. A diff from that would be helpful.
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Re: sudo port -Rdu upgrade installed (Automated)

2007-12-15 Thread paul beard
On 12/15/07, Charlse Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Need a launchd daemon to automate the upgrade process. I've the
 following but for some reason it's stopped working. Also I would like
 it to right the results into a log file.


I don't know about anyone else, but unattended port upgrades may not always
work as intended. A halfway measure I use is to put a port sync  port
outdated sequence in cron and mail the results: that way I can see if
anything needs doing and plan when to do it.


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Re: Ion3 license and possible removal

2007-12-13 Thread paul beard
On 12/13/07, Rainer Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 For me this sounds like a removal request... What is the problem with a
 version more than 28 days old? In my personal opinion ion3 with this
 license addition does not qualify as free software any more. Definitely
 remove it.


Wow, from that thread, I would have to agree. for those not inclined to read
through the flamethread, FreeBSD is in a ports freeze, where updates and
changes are verboten, unless they are to fix an issue like a segfault or the
like: these often last a month, and that would span the 28 days.
Never heard of ion3 before today, and I guess I won't miss it.

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Re: Kismet on OSX 10.5.1 Leopard

2007-12-08 Thread paul beard
On 11/28/07, caliel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have returned home from my holiday travels with eager anticipation to
 try
 kismet with my ralink USB Wi-Fi card.  Just as I plugged it in, I realized
 .. .. darwin and viha are the only valid capture sources for OSX!


Any reason not to use KisMac?



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Re: keeping a (maximally) clean active tree

2007-12-07 Thread paul beard
On 12/5/07, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree here again. You should not have to force anything in normal
 use. But you currently do, to uninstall old versions of software on
 which other software depends. Discussion of how this situation could
 be improved would probably be welcomed on the macports-dev list.


is there a reason not to make what we now use as -f the default
behavior? If I use port upgrade foo I expect foo to be upgraded to
the latest version. the use of upgrade implies that I have an
existing version that may be out of date and if it is, I want it
upgraded.

I realize, in circumstances like the gettext issue mentioned above,
that can hose things up, but that could be something is flagged in a
Portfile that might display a message like:


Installed port foo 0.6-7,1 is superceded by foo 0.7. foo 0.7 is
incompatible with installed ports
bar 1.1
baz 0.9-1
quux 0.2-3,1_3

To upgrade foo correctly, please uninstall the ports that depend on
it, upgrade foo and reinstall the dependents.



here's a particularly hairy example from FreeBSD's UPDATING file:

20050201:
  AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5 and lang/perl5.8
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  lang/perl5 has been updated to 5.6.2, and lang/perl5.8 has been
  updated to 5.8.6. you should update everything depending on perl, that
  is:

* first, upgrade your perl installation (use either lang/perl5 or
  lang/perl5.8, the latter being recommended);
* for FreeBSD 4.X, run use.perl port, so that the system knows you
  have 5.8.6 or 5.6.2; this step is not needed on FreeBSD 5.X and
  FreeBSD -CURRENT;
* run some magic incantations to upgrade all ports depending on perl,
  that is run something like :
  portupgrade -f `(pkg_info -R perl-5\* |tail +4; \
find /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.[68].[1245] -type f -print0 \
| xargs -0 pkg_which -fv | sed -e '/: ?/d' -e 's/.*: //')|sort -u`
  This is likely to fail for a few ports, you'll have to upgrade them
  afterwards by hand.

Personally, I would have this be dumped out to the console when an
upgrade matches the date and version that this applies to. But that's
cuz I am too lazy/absent-minded to read UPDATING as often as I should.


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Re: keeping a (maximally) clean active tree

2007-12-07 Thread paul beard
On 12/7/07, William Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 pardon, but doesnt using -R  (-dfunR) take care of this?

Yes, it does The Right Thing if there a newly-introduced mismatch in a
port that has dependents.

   -R   also upgrade dependents (only for upgrading)

But I think that the OP was looking for a simpler way to upgrade
existing ports without using force or ideally with no flags at all
(well, maybe an optional -c).

using -fundR is 5 flags, and I usually add -c, so we're up to 6
arguments to do what many would expect to be the default operaion.
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Re: Upgrade of libgtop fails

2007-11-30 Thread paul beard
On 11/30/07, David Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have just tried upgrading all my installed macports (which include
 Gimp). Gimp itself upgraded OK, but the upgrade of libgtop fails with
 the following message:


There seems to a fix available here:
http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/13390





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Re: problem with libraries path

2007-11-27 Thread paul beard
On 11/27/07, Rémi Thébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi

 I have some problems with pathes and env. variables. It seems my
 system get confused and doesn't want in some situations to find
 libraries or headers elsewhere than /opt/local.

 here is my profile file:

 $ cat ~/.profile
 #
 # Your previous .profile  (if any) is saved as .profile.mpsaved
 # Setting the path for MacPorts.
 export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/
 sbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11/bin
 export C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/local/include:/opt/local/include:/sw/
 include:/usr/include
 export LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/opt/local/lib:/sw/lib:/usr/lib

 I have for instance installed liblrdf in /usr/local and when I want to
 build Ardour from source (it uses scons instead of ./configure 
 make) :

 ardour-2.1 $ scons AUDIOUNITS=1 COREAUDIO=1 GTKOSX=1 FFT_ANALYSIS=1
 SURFACES=1
 scons: Reading SConscript files ...
 Checking for pkg-config version = 0.8.0... yes
 Checking for gthread-2.0... yes
 Checking for lrdf... no
 lrdf = 0.4.0 not found.
 You do not have the necessary dependencies required to build ardour
 Please consult http://ardour.org/building for more information

 a workaround is to install all dependencies in /opt/local, but I don't
 like it, and some of them (like JackOSX) cannot be installed elsewhere
 than /usr/local.

 I would like to find a system wide way to make any building or
 configure script look first in /usr/local then in /opt/local to find
 whatever is needed (libraries or headers).
 I assue this behaviour should be automatic but it's not, and I've
 never had this kind of problem on linux.

 May be this a problem specific to scons ?
 I've tried to specify CFLAGS : $ CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -I/opt/
 local/include -I/usr/include scons
 but the same error occurs.

 Rémi
 Intel Macbook, Leopard 10.5.1


do you still have fink installed? Be aware that you may have problems with
both MacPorts and fink co-resident . . .
And others can speak more learnedly on your other questions, but the reasons
to keep things in /opt/local are pretty hard to argue against.

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Re: Can't install Gimp on 10.5.1

2007-11-27 Thread paul beard
On 11/27/07, Michael E. Shamgochian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 26, 2007, at 11:44 PM, paul beard wrote:
 
 
  On 11/26/07, Michael E. Shamgochian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Strange! This is pretty much a clean install of MacPorts - I've tried
  reinstalling MacPorts to see if that would solve the problem. Right
  now, I'm just getting this from port installed:
 
  The following ports are currently installed:
 par2 @0.4_1+darwin_9 (active)
 unrar @3.7.8_0 (active)
 
  (I installed those two with no trouble.)
 
  odd. Not sure how you picked out two ports that don't depend on
  gettext, expat, or libiconv ;-)
 
  to go back to the top of this thread, gimp2 has library dependencies
  on:
  aalib
  curl
  libart_lgpl
  libexif
  libgnomeui
  libgtkhtml
  libmng
  librsvg
  libwmf
  p5-xml-parser
  poppler
  py25-gtk
 
 
  and those all have dependencies on other things. So it should take
  some time to install.
 
  Why you were seeing all those messages eludes me. Want to try
  installing gimp2 again?
 
  try:
 
  port -d install gimp2 | tee /tmp/logfile.txt so you get the entrails
  to peruse later.
 
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 It seems to be working now (compiling stuff), after issuing that
 command. I'm not sure what was going wrong before, except that I was
 trying to install gimp before, not gimp2 (but they seem to be mostly
 the same)...



One is a superset of the other . . . . glad it's working now.


[/Users/paul]:: port info gimp gimp2
gimp 2.4, Revision 3, graphics/gimp (Variants: universal, macosx, animation)
http://www.gimp.org/

This is a META port for the gimp2 which includes help and documentation,
support for icns, jp2000 and RAW formats, content-aware rescaling Gutenprint
and scanner frontends and even a nice theme (Nodoka). Mac OS X users also
get a Gimp.app bundle, a Show in Finder menu and clipboard integration.

Library Dependencies: icns-gimp, gimp-jp2, gimp-lqr-plugin,
gimp-user-manual, gtk-nodoka-engine, gutenprint, ufraw, xsane, gimp-app,
macclipboard-gimp, macfile-gimp
Platforms: darwin
Maintainers: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gimp2 2.4.2, graphics/gimp2 (Variants: universal, without_gnome, no_python,
dbus)
http://www.gimp.org/

The GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) is a powerful tool for the
preparation and manipulation of digital images. The GIMP provides the user
with a wide variety of image manipulation, painting, processing, and
rendering tools.

Library Dependencies: aalib, curl, libart_lgpl, libexif, libgnomeui,
libgtkhtml, libmng, librsvg, libwmf, p5-xml-parser, poppler, py25-gtk
Platforms: darwin
Maintainers: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Can't install Gimp on 10.5.1

2007-11-26 Thread paul beard
On 11/26/07, chagrins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks. I did sudo port -d install gimp, and I get this output,
 seemingly ad infinitum:

 DEBUG: Didn't find receipt, going to depspec regex for: expat
 DEBUG: Found port in
 file:///opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/x11/XFree86
 DEBUG: Searching for dependency: XFree86
 DEBUG: Didn't find receipt, going to depspec regex for: XFree86
 DEBUG: Found Dependency: path: /usr/X11R6/lib filename: libX11.6.dylib
 regex: ^libX11\.6\.dylib$
 DEBUG: Found Dependency: path: /usr/X11R6/lib filename: libX11.6.dylib
 regex: ^libX11\.6\.dylib$
 DEBUG: Found port in
 file:///opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/x11/render
 DEBUG: Searching for dependency: render
 DEBUG: Didn't find receipt, going to depspec regex for: render
 DEBUG: Found port in
 file:///opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/textproc/libiconv
 DEBUG: Searching for dependency: libiconv
 DEBUG: Didn't find receipt, going to depspec regex for: libiconv
 DEBUG: Found port in
 file:///opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/textproc/expat
 DEBUG: Searching for dependency: expat
 DEBUG: Didn't find receipt, going to depspec regex for: expat
 DEBUG: Found port in
 file:///opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/print/freetype
 DEBUG: Searching for dependency: freetype
 DEBUG: Didn't find receipt, going to depspec regex for: freetype


To use a technical expression, that looks pretty well hosed up.
What does port installed look like? It looks like perhaps your receipts
got messed with somehow, and that's how MacPorts keeps track of what's
installed and what files make up each port's contents.

I have had this happen when I ran out of space and the receipt for a port
(or ports) could not be written  to disk. It's unpleasant.


Show up port installed and we'll see if that jibes with what you should
have.

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Re: Can't install Gimp on 10.5.1

2007-11-26 Thread paul beard
On 11/26/07, Michael E. Shamgochian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Strange! This is pretty much a clean install of MacPorts - I've tried
 reinstalling MacPorts to see if that would solve the problem. Right
 now, I'm just getting this from port installed:

 The following ports are currently installed:
par2 @0.4_1+darwin_9 (active)
unrar @3.7.8_0 (active)

 (I installed those two with no trouble.)


odd. Not sure how you picked out two ports that don't depend on gettext,
expat, or libiconv ;-)
to go back to the top of this thread, gimp2 has library dependencies on:
aalib
curl
libart_lgpl
libexif
libgnomeui
libgtkhtml
libmng
librsvg
libwmf
p5-xml-parser
poppler
py25-gtk


and those all have dependencies on other things. So it should take some time
to install.

Why you were seeing all those messages eludes me. Want to try installing
gimp2 again?

try:

port -d install gimp2 | tee /tmp/logfile.txt so you get the entrails to
peruse later.

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Re: problem initializing macports

2007-11-25 Thread paul beard
On 11/25/07, tania habib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear List,
 It has been long since I installed macports on my mac osx 10.4. I used
 the ports to install many packages but then I went on to do  some
 other things and did not use ports for a while. Last week, when I
 tried to intialize the port, it did not work!
 When I go to and X11 terminal and type port , it gives me the
 following error message

 Error: /opt/local/bin/port: Failed to initialize ports system, no
 suitable image found.  Did find:
 /opt/local/share/darwinports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib:
 mach-o, but wrong architecture


sounds like you have an Intel system with a PPC code base installed. the
problem isn't in your PATH, as it find port correctly, but can't run it.


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Re: problem initializing macports

2007-11-25 Thread paul beard
On 11/25/07, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What Mac do you have? Did you previously have a different Mac, back
 when you originally installed MacPorts? Maybe you used Migration
 Assistant to transfer everything (including MacPorts) from the old
 Mac to the new Mac? IF the old Mac was PowerPC-based and the new one
 is Intel-based, that could explain the error you're seeing, and you
 should really uninstall everything and start over. You can use port
 installed to see what ports are installed.



How will that work if the port command doesn't run?

Once you reinstall
 MacPorts, you can manually reinstall all those ports. To uninstall
 MacPorts, follow these instructions:

 http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/
 FAQ#HowdoIremoveoruninstallMacPorts

 If you're sure MacPorts previously worked on this Mac, then it
 shouldn't be necessary to uninstall, though I can't yet explain what
 else might be going on.

 It also sounds like your PATH is not correct since it can't find the
 port command.



Actually, it does seem to find it OK: if the user types 'port something'
and the result is

Error: /opt/local/bin/port: Failed to initialize ports system, no
suitable image found.  Did find:
   /opt/local/share/darwinports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib:
mach-o, but wrong architecture


it sounds like the command is there but if the error message is right, that
the architecture is wrong.
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Re: problem initializing macports

2007-11-25 Thread paul beard
On 11/25/07, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Nov 25, 2007, at 13:29, paul beard wrote:

  On 11/25/07, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 
  What Mac do you have? Did you previously have a different Mac, back
  when you originally installed MacPorts? Maybe you used Migration
  Assistant to transfer everything (including MacPorts) from the old
  Mac to the new Mac? IF the old Mac was PowerPC-based and the new one
  is Intel-based, that could explain the error you're seeing, and you
  should really uninstall everything and start over. You can use port
  installed to see what ports are installed.
 
  How will that work if the port command doesn't run?

 Good question. It might not work then. We might have to dig deeper to
 see what's installed. Like this:

 cd /opt/local/var/macports/receipts/
 find . -name receipt.bz2 | sed -E 's%^\./(.*)/(.*)/receipt\.bz2$%\1 @
 \2%'


Watch the line-wrap: that \2% should stay on the same line. Same below . . .
.

Or, for the user's version of DarwinPorts before the new layout, I
 hope this is it:

 cd /opt/local/var/db/dports/receipts/
 find . -name receipt.bz2 | sed -E 's%^\./(.*)/(.*)/receipt\.bz2$%\1 @
 \2%'


  It also sounds like your PATH is not correct since it can't find the
  port command.
 
  Actually, it does seem to find it OK: if the user types 'port
  something' and the result is
 
  Error: /opt/local/bin/port: Failed to initialize ports system, no
  suitable image found.  Did find:
 /opt/local/share/darwinports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib:
  mach-o, but wrong architecture
 
  it sounds like the command is there but if the error message is
  right, that the architecture is wrong.

 It sounds to me like the user is having to run /opt/local/bin/port
 because when just port is run this error was shown:

 On Nov 25, 2007, at 11:14, tania habib wrote:

  On Nov 25, 2007 2:11 PM, William Davis wrote:
 
 
  Did you try :
  sudo port -d selfupdate
  ?
 
  Yes I did, but it comes with the error that port:command not found.
  I feel there is some path problem. Can please guide me through the
  procedure of setting the path variable in X11!





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Re: compiling as root?

2007-11-24 Thread paul beard
On 11/24/07, Michael Thon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Linux people generally recommend that you do not compile source code
 with a user that has superuser privileges, which I assume is a guard
 against possibly malicious commands that may be in the compile
 scripts.  When I install packages with macports (sudo port install
 xyz)  they're compiled by the root user.  I assume that the developers
 have thought about this and decided that it is not a security
 problem.  But I am curious, is it ok or not ok to compile source code
 as root?
 cheers


you can compile as any user, so long as you have permissions to write to
where you're doing it. It's the installation step that might require root.
This, I suspect, is part of the reason why MacPorts uses the /opt/local
sandbox and doesn't write to the other parts of the system.
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Re: the easy fix to get python 2.5 working again

2007-11-23 Thread paul beard
On 11/23/07, Randall Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 23 Nov 2007, at 00:29, paul beard wrote:

 
 
  On 11/22/07, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov
  22, 2007, at 16:02, paul beard wrote:
 
   I should have attached this to my earlier email. Since it is
   explicitly for darwin 8, it shouldn't break anything else. Right?
  
platform darwin 8 {
   -   configure.compiler  gcc-4.0
   -   configure.args-append   --with-cxx=/usr/bin/g++-4.0
   +   configure.compiler  gcc-3.3
   +   configure.args-append   --with-cxx=/usr/bin/g++- 3.3
}
 
  I would expect that not to work on Intel Macs, since Apple's gcc 3.3
  only compiles PowerPC binaries.
 
  Well, that's all I have to work with. I have no idea if it's
  working at all on Intel hardware. Anyone else seeing a problem with
  it?


 See ticket #13377[1]. I think the problem is the configure flags
 being passed to python, not the compiler.

 [1] http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/13377


That's as may be: I saw a lot of Google results that suggested that, but I
could never get it to work.
That ticket is marked as a duplicate, and I have been down the same road as
the older one, even unto the same cited webpages. Tried the same Portfile
modifications as well.
What I did worked, though it may not be ideal for whatever reason.


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not specifically MacPorts but tools-related

2007-11-22 Thread paul beard
Does anyone have any experience with the gcc 3.3-fast compiler? it's listed
as an option on my system but gcc_select says it doesn't really exist. And
how do I use the compilers that MacPorts builds, if I ever had a need?
gcc33  @3.3.6  lang/gcc33
gcc34  @3.4.6  lang/gcc34
gcc40  @4.0.4  lang/gcc40
gcc41  @4.1.2  lang/gcc41
gcc42  @4.2.2  lang/gcc42
gcc43  @4.3-20071116   lang/gcc43


And does gcc_select override what's in the Portfile? For instance, python
2.5 is balking with gcc 4 (the default) but builds with gcc 3.3. I made the
change explicit in the Portfile. Could I have saved that step?

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Re: not specifically MacPorts but tools-related

2007-11-22 Thread paul beard
On 11/22/07, paul beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone have any experience with the gcc 3.3-fast compiler? it's
 listed as an option on my system but gcc_select says it doesn't really
 exist. And how do I use the compilers that MacPorts builds, if I ever had a
 need?

 gcc33  @3.3.6  lang/gcc33
 gcc34  @3.4.6  lang/gcc34
 gcc40  @ 4.0.4  lang/gcc40
 gcc41  @4.1.2  lang/gcc41
 gcc42  @4.2.2  lang/gcc42
 gcc43  @4.3-20071116   lang/gcc43


 And does gcc_select override what's in the Portfile? For instance, python
 2.5 is balking with gcc 4 (the default) but builds with gcc 3.3. I made
 the change explicit in the Portfile. Could I have saved that step?


Well, I answered one of my own questions: gcc_select has no effect on the
value in a portfile, or to put it another way, you can override it with the
portfile's values.
So that's python 2.5 sorted. What changed upstream, I wonder?

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the easy fix to get python 2.5 working again

2007-11-22 Thread paul beard
I should have attached this to my earlier email. Since it is explicitly for
darwin 8, it shouldn't break anything else. Right?

--- Portfile2007-11-19 12:21:26.0 -0800
+++ /tmp/Portfile   2007-11-22 13:58:08.0 -0800
@@ -67,8 +67,8 @@
 }

 platform darwin 8 {
-   configure.compiler  gcc-4.0
-   configure.args-append   --with-cxx=/usr/bin/g++-4.0
+   configure.compiler  gcc-3.3
+   configure.args-append   --with-cxx=/usr/bin/g++-3.3
 }

 platform darwin 9 {


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Re: not specifically MacPorts but tools-related

2007-11-22 Thread paul beard
On 11/22/07, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 gcc_select should probably never be used. The system ships with a
 default compiler (gcc 3.3 on Panther, gcc 4.0 on Tiger and Leopard)
 and that should probably never be changed. Software that needs a
 different compiler should specify that explicitly.

 Users who had used gcc_select to select a different compiler used to
 experience all sorts of weird breakage with some MacPorts software.
 Recently (1.5.2?), MacPorts was changed so that it doesn't matter
 what the user has selected with gcc_select; MacPorts will use gcc 3.3
 on Panther and 4.0 on Tiger and Leopard unless the portfile specifies
 something different using configure.compiler. This is a good thing.

 Apple's gcc 3.3 only builds PowerPC binaries, so it's not suitable
 for use on Intel Macs.


Is the gcc_select in MacPorts any better?

 gcc_select @0.1sysutils/gcc_select

gcc_select 0.1, sysutils/gcc_select (Variants: universal, darwin_7,
darwin_8_ppc, darwin_8_i386)
http://svn.macports.org/repository/macports/users/mww/select/

gcc_select lets you switch the default compiler. It symlinks the standard
compiler executables in the MacPorts prefix to the selected version.






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Re: the easy fix to get python 2.5 working again

2007-11-22 Thread paul beard
On 11/22/07, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 22, 2007, at 16:02, paul beard wrote:

  I should have attached this to my earlier email. Since it is
  explicitly for darwin 8, it shouldn't break anything else. Right?
 
   platform darwin 8 {
  -   configure.compiler  gcc-4.0
  -   configure.args-append   --with-cxx=/usr/bin/g++-4.0
  +   configure.compiler  gcc-3.3
  +   configure.args-append   --with-cxx=/usr/bin/g++-3.3
   }

 I would expect that not to work on Intel Macs, since Apple's gcc 3.3
 only compiles PowerPC binaries.


Well, that's all I have to work with. I have no idea if it's working at all
on Intel hardware. Anyone else seeing a problem with it?


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Re: verifying your macports

2007-11-21 Thread paul beard
On 11/21/07, Alexy Khrabrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After the scare of spurious libgcc getting in the way, I'm wondering
 how can we verify our setups.  This is when rpm-style verification
 and binary distros shine.  Sure you can compile stuff, but what if
 some crap got into your PATH -- beginning with a wrong gcc?  What if
 some other crap got into LDFLAGS or DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH or whatever?
 What tools are there to verify

 -- completeness of each port
 -- proper chain of dependencies of each port
 -- checking that no port depends on any package not built by the
 ports -- e.g., nothing outside /opt/local
 -- that each executable in /opt/local/bin will load
 -- what else?


sounds like you have a fine project scoped out there ;-)

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Re: Something to tail -f during a long build?

2007-11-04 Thread paul beard
On 11/3/07, Lloyd Zusman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Once I've started a long build (for example, of something like gcc42), is
 there a file somewhere that I can look at with tail -f in order to watch
 the progress of the build?

 I know that I can start a build with the -v or maybe -d flag to see
 more info, but I'm specfically wondering if there's a log file somewhere
 for the non--v case (for example, for a simple port install gcc42)
 that I can look at while the build is running.

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