Re: Newb
On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Michael_google gmail_Gersten wrote: So yeah virtualization is an option, with very limited performance since the VM 3D acceleration passthrough isn't so great. >>> >>> FWIW, both VMware and Parallels claim to have made great advances in their >>> Windows 3D acceleration support. >> >> Like bringing honey from freezer to room temperature? I haven't benchmarked >> any of it, but for general purpose (i.e. GPU accelerated GUI) it's quite >> fine. But the gamers are still not all gung ho about it, so I'd think video >> editing demands would be much the same or greater possibly. >> >> I'm a big fan of VM - that's all I use on my Mac. It's vastly easier to >> setup, maintain, and is safer data integrity wise too. But I don't consider >> it so much from a performance perspective. > > My intended use is to use a video editor to work with movies. The plan > is to use Quicktime or SnagIt (if TechSmith has gotten it to work > better, anyways) to record video and audio, and a network chat program > to record player discussions. Then toss it at an editor that is easier > to use than iMovie (more pain than it's worth). > > I don't need high performance video until it's time to save. Exporting > on iMovie wants the GPU, so I suspect something similar will happen in > editing. But it does not bother me if it takes 2 hours more to process > a 30 minute video if it saves me 8 hours of editing headache. > > So, I don't need _real time_ GPU access. Batched access is fine. Give VM a shot. I'd check if the tool you're going to use makes use of GPU acceleration, if so what, then look up an appropriate benchmark comparing the Parallels, Virtual Box (free), and VMWare offerings. If Virtual Box is even in the ballpark of the other two, you can try that fairly low consequence. If you don't like the performance, it's just a matter of trashing the virtual disk file. Whereas for Boot Camp the partitioning alone makes me reach for a pill bottle. If you do go down the road of Boot Camp, don't touch the disk again with either Apple Disk Utility, or a Windows disk utility for the purpose of resizing anything. It'll end in data loss. Chris Murphy ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
>>> So yeah virtualization is an option, with very limited performance since >>> the VM 3D acceleration passthrough isn't so great. >> >> FWIW, both VMware and Parallels claim to have made great advances in their >> Windows 3D acceleration support. > > Like bringing honey from freezer to room temperature? I haven't benchmarked > any of it, but for general purpose (i.e. GPU accelerated GUI) it's quite > fine. But the gamers are still not all gung ho about it, so I'd think video > editing demands would be much the same or greater possibly. > > I'm a big fan of VM - that's all I use on my Mac. It's vastly easier to > setup, maintain, and is safer data integrity wise too. But I don't consider > it so much from a performance perspective. My intended use is to use a video editor to work with movies. The plan is to use Quicktime or SnagIt (if TechSmith has gotten it to work better, anyways) to record video and audio, and a network chat program to record player discussions. Then toss it at an editor that is easier to use than iMovie (more pain than it's worth). I don't need high performance video until it's time to save. Exporting on iMovie wants the GPU, so I suspect something similar will happen in editing. But it does not bother me if it takes 2 hours more to process a 30 minute video if it saves me 8 hours of editing headache. So, I don't need _real time_ GPU access. Batched access is fine. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 24, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2012, at 00:05, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> So yeah virtualization is an option, with very limited performance since the >> VM 3D acceleration passthrough isn't so great. > > FWIW, both VMware and Parallels claim to have made great advances in their > Windows 3D acceleration support. Like bringing honey from freezer to room temperature? I haven't benchmarked any of it, but for general purpose (i.e. GPU accelerated GUI) it's quite fine. But the gamers are still not all gung ho about it, so I'd think video editing demands would be much the same or greater possibly. I'm a big fan of VM - that's all I use on my Mac. It's vastly easier to setup, maintain, and is safer data integrity wise too. But I don't consider it so much from a performance perspective. Chris Murphy ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
Oracle's VirtualBox also has an experimental 3d accelerated feature. J. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2012, at 00:05, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > So yeah virtualization is an option, with very limited performance since > the VM 3D acceleration passthrough isn't so great. > > FWIW, both VMware and Parallels claim to have made great advances in their > Windows 3D acceleration support. > > ___ > macports-users mailing list > macports-users@lists.macosforge.org > http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users > -- Jean Gobin, CCENT, CCNA, CCNA Security http://newsfromjean.blogspot.com/ ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 24, 2012, at 00:05, Chris Murphy wrote: > So yeah virtualization is an option, with very limited performance since the > VM 3D acceleration passthrough isn't so great. FWIW, both VMware and Parallels claim to have made great advances in their Windows 3D acceleration support. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 23, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: >> > > The question was pretty vague. Video editing is generally a IO and CPU > intensive workflow and I cannot imagine very many cases where virtualization > would make a video editor happy. > > In my opinion if the user wants to pass up the many good native Mac video > editing workflows then he should go straight to bootcamp. I agree, although the partitioning requirements are a major drawback. Get the size right the first time. If you have to resize later, you'll need a 3rd party resize utility: Winclone, Camptune, or iPartition, that explicitly knows how to resize JHFS+/X and NTFS, and knows how to edit hybrid MBR and GPT partition tables. Various message boards are littered with users who try to do this with Apple's tools, and end up experiencing significant data loss. And naturally the standard regimen people are told in this situation is: nuke the drive, reinstall os x, reinstall windows, restore data from backups. So yeah virtualization is an option, with very limited performance since the VM 3D acceleration passthrough isn't so great. And then with Bootcamp it's partition hell, and Apple supplies old drivers for Windows (so you're better off tracking them down yourself). So really you're better off just sticking with OS X video editing software, or getting a dedicated PC. Chris Murphy ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 23, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2012, at 21:29, Michael wrote: > >> Alright, so now that I've seen two threads on wine and crossover, what is >> the current best way to run a Microsoft Windows based video editor on a >> MacBook Pro? > > As Bradley said, Bootcamp is an option. It offers the best compatibility, but > requires you to reboot to Windows when you want to use it. It also requires > you to buy a copy of Windows and dedicate a partition of your internal HD or > SSD to it. > > Virtualization is another option. It also requires purchasing a copy of > Windows, but can run side-by-side with OS X, and can be installed in a > virtual disk which need only be as big as its contents. Virtual Box is a free > virtualization platform, available in MacPorts as the "virtualbox" port. > Other popular virtualization systems that run on OSX, but that cost money, > are VMware Fusion and Parallels Desktop. I've used VMware for years; a friend > of mine swears by Parallels. > > And finally there's Wine. In MacPorts we offer the "wine", "wine-devel" and > "wine-crossover" ports with different versions of the software. Wine is free, > but compatibility can be hit and miss. The question was pretty vague. Video editing is generally a IO and CPU intensive workflow and I cannot imagine very many cases where virtualization would make a video editor happy. In my opinion if the user wants to pass up the many good native Mac video editing workflows then he should go straight to bootcamp. Regards, Bradley Giesbrecht (pixilla) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 23, 2012, at 21:29, Michael wrote: > Alright, so now that I've seen two threads on wine and crossover, what is the > current best way to run a Microsoft Windows based video editor on a MacBook > Pro? As Bradley said, Bootcamp is an option. It offers the best compatibility, but requires you to reboot to Windows when you want to use it. It also requires you to buy a copy of Windows and dedicate a partition of your internal HD or SSD to it. Virtualization is another option. It also requires purchasing a copy of Windows, but can run side-by-side with OS X, and can be installed in a virtual disk which need only be as big as its contents. Virtual Box is a free virtualization platform, available in MacPorts as the "virtualbox" port. Other popular virtualization systems that run on OSX, but that cost money, are VMware Fusion and Parallels Desktop. I've used VMware for years; a friend of mine swears by Parallels. And finally there's Wine. In MacPorts we offer the "wine", "wine-devel" and "wine-crossover" ports with different versions of the software. Wine is free, but compatibility can be hit and miss. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Michael wrote: >> On Oct 22, 2012, at 23:54, jake pasner wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the reply! >>> >>> I actually got a lot of help from another subscriber and was able to >>> resolve my problem. Is there a way to update the status of my issue to >>> *solved*? >>> >>> Thanks again! >>> Jake >> >> Glad you got it working. It's just a mailing list, so you can just send a >> message back to the group indicating that the problem is solved. Remember to >> use Reply All when you reply to messages so that you're communicating with >> the whole list and not just one person. I've Cc'd the list on this message. > > Alright, so now that I've seen two threads on wine and crossover, what is the > current best way to run a Microsoft Windows based video editor on a MacBook > Pro? Bootcamp. Regards, Bradley Giesbrecht (pixilla) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
> On Oct 22, 2012, at 23:54, jake pasner wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply! >> >> I actually got a lot of help from another subscriber and was able to >> resolve my problem. Is there a way to update the status of my issue to >> *solved*? >> >> Thanks again! >> Jake > > Glad you got it working. It's just a mailing list, so you can just send a > message back to the group indicating that the problem is solved. Remember to > use Reply All when you reply to messages so that you're communicating with > the whole list and not just one person. I've Cc'd the list on this message. Alright, so now that I've seen two threads on wine and crossover, what is the current best way to run a Microsoft Windows based video editor on a MacBook Pro? --- This is coming from Mail.app. I hate the new Gmail web look, and dislike Mail only slightly less. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 22, 2012, at 23:54, jake pasner wrote: > Thanks for the reply! > > I actually got a lot of help from another subscriber and was able to resolve > my problem. Is there a way to update the status of my issue to *solved*? > > Thanks again! > Jake Glad you got it working. It's just a mailing list, so you can just send a message back to the group indicating that the problem is solved. Remember to use Reply All when you reply to messages so that you're communicating with the whole list and not just one person. I've Cc'd the list on this message. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
On Oct 21, 2012, at 20:27, jake pasner wrote: > First off I should say I could be incorrectly using this list so please tell > me to shut up and go somewhere else if that is what I should do. Welcome to MacPorts! This is a great place to ask for this kind of help; hopefully we can figure this out. > Error: Failed to install xorg-libXdamage > Please see the log file for port xorg-libXdamage for details: > > /opt/local/var/macports/logs/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_x11_xorg-libXdamage/xorg-libXdamage/main.log This file might contain more information; could you send it to us? > I looked around online for a while and found stuff that said to update my > ports. So I ran $ sudo port selfupdate. It replied that MacPorts base was > already the latest version. Yes MacPorts base was already the latest version, but selfupdate also updates your ports tree; dozens of ports are updated by our developers each day so running selfupdate often is recommended. > Error: Unable to execute port: sqlite error: database disk image is malformed > (11) while executing query: SELECT state FROM registry.ports WHERE id=105 At this point I'll defer to others who understand the registry better. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
> I believe my computer then shut down for no reason, it didn't lose power. Sounds like your computer may have overheated. > Error: Unable to execute port: sqlite error: database disk image is malformed > (11) while executing query: SELECT state FROM registry.ports WHERE id=105 I suspect your best result will be to dump out the database to a text file and then read it back in. The database is powered by sqlite3, so it's something along the following lines (Google probably will get you far as well). Dump the db: sqlite3 /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db sqlite> .mode insert sqlite> .output dump_all.sql sqlite> .dump Create a new db: sqlite3 registry.db sqlite> .read dump_all.sql Replace the old db: sudo cp registry.db /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db On my system, the registry.db is owned by root:admin with permissions 0644. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Newb
Hello,
First off I should say I could be incorrectly using this list so please tell me
to shut up and go somewhere else if that is what I should do.
My problem is I was attempting to have Macports get wine for me and had an
error. Info follows:
System:Mac OS 10.8.22.66 GHz Intell Core 2 Duo2 gigs of memory(can supply more
info if needed)
What I did:Having already installed latests Xcode package from apple I
installed Macports and use the following command:
$ sudo port install wine
It ran fine and was going well until it was attempting to install the wine
dependency cairo. I believe my computer then shut down for no reason, it
didn't lose power.Not knowing how to deal with this, I attempted to run the
same command $ sudo port install wine. It reevaluated dependencies and then
started cleaning already present dependencies.
--
---> Dependencies to be installed: apple-gcc42 cctools cctools-headers
llvm-3.1 libffi llvm_select gcc_select ld64 bison gettext expat libiconv
ncurses m4 flex fontconfig freetype bzip2 zlib gst-plugins-base gnome-vfs
desktop-file-utils glib2 perl5 perl5.12 gdbm popt gconf dbus-glib dbus gtk2 atk
gobject-introspection cairo libpixman libpng xorg-xcb-util xorg-libxcb python27
db46 libedit openssl python_select sqlite3 xorg-libXau xorg-xproto
xorg-libXdmcp xorg-libpthread-stubs xorg-xcb-proto libxml2 xz xrender
xorg-libX11 xorg-kbproto xorg-renderproto gdk-pixbuf2 jasper jpeg tiff
hicolor-icon-theme pango Xft2 pkgconfig shared-mime-info xorg-libXcomposite
xorg-compositeproto xorg-libXext xorg-xextproto xorg-libXfixes xorg-fixesproto
xorg-libXcursor xorg-libXdamage xorg-damageproto xorg-libXi xorg-inputproto
xorg-libXinerama xorg-xineramaproto xorg-libXrandr xorg-randrproto intltool
p5.12-getopt-long p5.12-pathtools p5.12-scalar-list-utils p5.12-xml-parser
orbit2 gtk-doc docbook-xml docbook-xml-4.1.2 docbook-xml-4.2 xmlcatmgr
docbook-xml-4.3 docbook-xml-4.4 docbook-xml-4.5 docbook-xml-5.0 docbook-xsl
py27-libxml2 rarian libxslt libidl policykit eggdbus gnome-doc-utils iso-codes
gnome-mime-data autoconf help2man p5.12-locale-gettext automake libtool
gstreamer gzip texinfo libtheora libvorbis libogg orc xorg-libice xorg-xtrans
xorg-libsm lcms mesa makedepend xorg-dri2proto xorg-glproto xorg-libXmu
xorg-libXt xorg-libXxf86vm xorg-xf86vidmodeproto---> Cleaning cctools-headers
{clip}---> Cleaning xorg-libXfixes---> Cleaning xorg-libXcomposite--->
Cleaning xorg-libXcursor---> Cleaning xorg-damageprotoError: Failed to install
xorg-libXdamagePlease see the log file for port xorg-libXdamage for details:
/opt/local/var/macports/logs/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_x11_xorg-libXdamage/xorg-libXdamage/main.logError:
The following dependencies were not installed: gst-plugins-base gnome-vfs
gconf gtk2 xorg-libXdamage xorg-libXi xorg-inputproto xorg-libXinerama
xorg-xineramaproto xorg-libXrandr xorg-randrproto intltool p5.12-getopt-long
p5.12-pathtools p5.12-scalar-list-utils p5.12-xml-parser orbit2 gtk-doc
docbook-xml docbook-xml-4.1.2 docbook-xml-4.2 xmlcatmgr docbook-xml-4.3
docbook-xml-4.4 docbook-xml-4.5 docbook-xml-5.0 docbook-xsl py27-libxml2 rarian
libxslt libidl policykit eggdbus gnome-doc-utils iso-codes gnome-mime-data
autoconf help2man p5.12-locale-gettext automake libtool gstreamer gzip texinfo
libtheora libvorbis libogg orc xorg-libice xorg-xtrans xorg-libsm lcms mesa
makedepend xorg-dri2proto xorg-glproto xorg-libXmu xorg-libXt xorg-libXxf86vm
xorg-xf86vidmodeprotoTo report a bug, follow the instructions in the guide:
http://guide.macports.org/#project.ticketsError: Processing of port wine failed
--
I looked around online for a while and found stuff that said to update my
ports. So I ran $ sudo port selfupdate. It replied that MacPorts base was
already the latest version.
I then tried to install xorg-libXdamage by itself with the following
result:--
users-iMac:~ user$ sudo port install xorg-libXdamage---> Computing
dependencies for xorg-libXdamage---> Dependencies to be installed:
xorg-damageproto xorg-libXfixes xorg-fixesproto xorg-libX11 xorg-kbproto
xorg-libXau xorg-xproto xorg-libXdmcp xorg-libxcb python27 bzip2 db46 gettext
expat libiconv ncurses libedit openssl zlib python_select sqlite3
xorg-libpthread-stubs xorg-xcb-proto libxml2 xz---> Cleaning
xorg-damageproto---> Cleaning xorg-fixesproto---> Cleaning xorg-kbproto--->
Cleaning xorg-xproto---> Cleaning xorg-libXau---> Cleaning xorg-libXdmcp--->
Cleaning bzip2---> Cleani
Re: Newb
Welcome to MacPorts! On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:37, Mark Duling wrote: "Ron Green" on Wednesday, April 4, 2007 at 10:35 AM -0800 wrote: Can someone please explain to me how to install MacPORTS. I keep seeing a reference to a binary installer but I don't see anything that looks like an installer. These instructions should do it. http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/InstallingMacPorts The most recent binary installer (in a .dmg disk image) is for DarwinPorts 1.3.1. You can either get that from the download area and follow the instructions above for using the binary installer, or get the .tar.bz2 file for MacPorts 1.4.0 and follow the "from source" instructions above. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Newb
"Ron Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wednesday, April 4, 2007 at 10:35 AM -0800 wrote: >Can someone please explain to me how to install MacPORTS. I keep >seeing a reference to a binary installer but I don't see anything >that looks like an installer. These instructions should do it. http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/InstallingMacPorts Mark ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Newb
Can someone please explain to me how to install MacPORTS. I keep seeing a reference to a binary installer but I don't see anything that looks like an installer. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
