Re: "list-unsubscribe" mail header & no footer
My entry was:
"L:macports-users.lists.macports.org" => {
"updatedAt" => 667601013
"value" => "accepted"
}
but trying to remove it makes no difference. I tried that while the mail client
was quit. It reappears, but the
unsubscribe button doesn't appear for this list.
Using Apple Mail 16.0 and receiving on via gmail. Only seems to impact this
mailing list. Will need to dig more.
The main reason for bringing this up is that I have seen lists getting marked
as spam when enough
people can't work out how to unsubscribe.
> On 5 Apr, 2022, at 15:38, Mike Cappella wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 11:12 AM, André-John Mas > > wrote:
>>
>> I just noticed that the emails for "macports users" aren't showing the
>> "unsubscribe" button in
>> Apple Mail and they don't have a footer to link to unsubscribe instructions,
>> as I am used to
>> seeing in other list server based messages.
>>
>> Which is the right channel to bring up this issue?
>
> You've likely hit the X to clear the Unsubscribe button, and this gets stored
> as a property:
>
> ~/Library/Mail/V9/MailData/
>
> $ plutil -p
> EMUbiquitouslyPersistedDictionary-com.apple.mail.listUnsubscribeInfo.plist
> {
> "data" => {
> ...
> "L:macports-users.lists.macports.org
>
Re: "list-unsubscribe" mail header & no footer
I don’t see them either, but I’m running El Cap with Mail v9.3 which may not have that capability. Jim Seattle, WA > On Apr 5, 2022, at 11:32 AM, André-John Mas wrote: > > Fair enough for the footer, but not sure why Apple Mail is not recognising > the headers > here for unsubscribe. I do see them there, but something is not behaving the > same > as on other mailing lists. > > Maybe this is impacting me only? > >> On 5 Apr, 2022, at 14:30, Ralph Seichter via macports-users >> wrote: >> >> * André-John Mas: >> >>> I just noticed that the emails for "macports users" aren't showing the >>> "unsubscribe" button in Apple Mail and they don't have a footer to >>> link to unsubscribe instructions, as I am used to seeing in other list >>> server based messages. >> >> All messages from this mailing list have a "List-Unsubscribe" and >> various other List-* headers. That's all a decent MUA requires. Message >> footers and subject prefixes break DKIM signatures and are therefore to >> be avoided. >> >> -Ralph >
Re: "list-unsubscribe" mail header & no footer
> On Apr 5, 2022, at 11:12 AM, André-John Mas wrote:
>
> I just noticed that the emails for "macports users" aren't showing the
> "unsubscribe" button in
> Apple Mail and they don't have a footer to link to unsubscribe instructions,
> as I am used to
> seeing in other list server based messages.
>
> Which is the right channel to bring up this issue?
You've likely hit the X to clear the Unsubscribe button, and this gets stored
as a property:
~/Library/Mail/V9/MailData/
$ plutil -p
EMUbiquitouslyPersistedDictionary-com.apple.mail.listUnsubscribeInfo.plist
{
"data" => {
...
"L:macports-users.lists.macports.org" => {
"updatedAt" => 670876830
"value" => "ignored"
}
}
"version" => 1
}
Note the value "ignored" above, which I believe prevents showing the
Unsubscribe button.
They will also be in the sandboxed area:
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.Mail/Data/Library/Mail/V9/MailData/
I'm not sure what path to provide to clear the property.
Re: "list-unsubscribe" mail header & no footer
Hi Andre-John, I agree with Ralph, it might be something on your computer. On BigSur (11.6.5) Mail.app (Apple Mail) shows me an unsubscribe option right below the headers for messages from the macports mailing lists. On iOS 15.4.1, I get a big unsubscribe option above the headers for macports mailing lists. Best, -ranga > On Apr 5, 2022, at 11:50, Ralph Seichter via macports-users > wrote: > > * André-John Mas: > >> Maybe this is impacting me only? > > Looks like that might be the case: https://imgur.com/a/0KtaLZM > > The screenshot I took shows that Apple Mail displays an "unsubscribe" > action buttion for me. I am running macOS Monterey (version 12.3.1). > > -Ralph
Re: "list-unsubscribe" mail header & no footer
* André-John Mas: > Maybe this is impacting me only? Looks like that might be the case: https://imgur.com/a/0KtaLZM The screenshot I took shows that Apple Mail displays an "unsubscribe" action buttion for me. I am running macOS Monterey (version 12.3.1). -Ralph
Re: "list-unsubscribe" mail header & no footer
Fair enough for the footer, but not sure why Apple Mail is not recognising the headers here for unsubscribe. I do see them there, but something is not behaving the same as on other mailing lists. Maybe this is impacting me only? > On 5 Apr, 2022, at 14:30, Ralph Seichter via macports-users > wrote: > > * André-John Mas: > >> I just noticed that the emails for "macports users" aren't showing the >> "unsubscribe" button in Apple Mail and they don't have a footer to >> link to unsubscribe instructions, as I am used to seeing in other list >> server based messages. > > All messages from this mailing list have a "List-Unsubscribe" and > various other List-* headers. That's all a decent MUA requires. Message > footers and subject prefixes break DKIM signatures and are therefore to > be avoided. > > -Ralph
Re: "list-unsubscribe" mail header & no footer
* André-John Mas: > I just noticed that the emails for "macports users" aren't showing the > "unsubscribe" button in Apple Mail and they don't have a footer to > link to unsubscribe instructions, as I am used to seeing in other list > server based messages. All messages from this mailing list have a "List-Unsubscribe" and various other List-* headers. That's all a decent MUA requires. Message footers and subject prefixes break DKIM signatures and are therefore to be avoided. -Ralph
