[MacRuby-devel] MacRuby and the UIKit framework for Mac OS X

2011-03-24 Thread B . Ohr 
Hi,

I ported a small demo the UIKit framework for Mac OS X 
(http://chameleonproject.org/)  to MacRuby. Although the framework is not 
currently known to be GC-safe it is working for me:

https://gist.github.com/884875

I will do further investigations in this topic because I want to learn UIKit 
and playing around with MacRuby is much faster than with Obj-C.

Bernd
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby and the UIKit framework for Mac OS X

2011-03-24 Thread Eloy Durán 
Just a quick FYI, constants are missing because you need to generate a 
BridgeSupport file for the framework that retrieves these names/values from the 
headers. See `man gen_bridge_metadata` for more info.

On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:09 PM, B. Ohr wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I ported a small demo the UIKit framework for Mac OS X 
> (http://chameleonproject.org/)  to MacRuby. Although the framework is not 
> currently known to be GC-safe it is working for me:
> 
> https://gist.github.com/884875
> 
> I will do further investigations in this topic because I want to learn UIKit 
> and playing around with MacRuby is much faster than with Obj-C.
> 
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] is hotcocoa dead ?

2011-03-24 Thread Gary Weaver 

Vincenzo,

There was work on HotCocoa at least as recently as Jan 11, 2011, I think.

Here is the github graph of changes:
https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network

As of today (3/24/2011), this is the most recent list of committers (I 
think):

https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa/contributors

dj2 (dan sinclair)
richkilmer (Richard Kilmer)
isaac (Isaac Kearse)
mattetti (Matt Aimonetti)
jamis (Jamis Buck)
hellopatrick (Patrick)
reborg (reborg)

Last change in the wiki was 10 months ago (6/10/2010):
http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoa?action=history

Unfortunately, I think it is an effort off to the side of the macruby 
team and core developers that hasn't gotten much attention. I know many 
(including myself) would like to see it succeed though. It was a lot of 
fun to work with for the few days that I did, and fun toys that you can 
create cool things with quickly can often do really well. The main 
problems I think have been the lack of attention, lack of development, 
and the large size of the produced application, at least in earlier 
versions.


Gary


On 3/23/11 5:52 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:

Hello all,
  I discovered macruby since a few weeks and I'm really enthusiast.
I begun playing with it and really like the hotcocoa approach, but it 
seems stopped since more than a year, is it still maintained ?


Anyway, I think I found a bug in the hotcocoa canvas part: the text 
method draws at a very big size regardless of the chosen font. The 
problem is that the transformation matrix for the text is not set.


Here is the fix if anyone needs it:

module HotCocoa::Graphics
  class Canvas
def text(txt="A", x=0, y=0)
  affine = CGContextGetCTM(@ctx)
  CGContextSetTextMatrix (@ctx, affine);
  txt = txt.to_s unless txt.kind_of?(String)
  if @registration == :center
width = textwidth(txt)
x = x - width / 2
y = y + @fsize / 2
  end
  CGContextShowTextAtPoint(@ctx, x, y, txt, txt.length)
end
  end
end



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Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby and the UIKit framework for Mac OS X

2011-03-24 Thread B. Ohr 
Thanks, it is working now after generating the BridgeSupport file! I changed 
the gist.

Am 24.03.2011 um 13:36 schrieb Eloy Durán:

> Just a quick FYI, constants are missing because you need to generate a 
> BridgeSupport file for the framework that retrieves these names/values from 
> the headers. See `man gen_bridge_metadata` for more info.
> 
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:09 PM, B. Ohr wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I ported a small demo the UIKit framework for Mac OS X 
>> (http://chameleonproject.org/)  to MacRuby. Although the framework is not 
>> currently known to be GC-safe it is working for me:
>> 
>> https://gist.github.com/884875
>> 
>> I will do further investigations in this topic because I want to learn UIKit 
>> and playing around with MacRuby is much faster than with Obj-C.
>> 
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Gehl 
I'd like to second the question on HotCocoa status - is it dead, in limbo, 
quietly flourishing, ???

Mike

On Mar 23, 2011, at 7:38 PM, [email protected] wrote:

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> 
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> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:52:42 +0100
> From: Vincenzo Piombo 
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [MacRuby-devel] is hotcocoa dead ?
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hello all,
>  I discovered macruby since a few weeks and I'm really enthusiast.
> I begun playing with it and really like the hotcocoa approach, but it seems
> stopped since more than a year, is it still maintained ?
> 
> Anyway, I think I found a bug in the hotcocoa canvas part: the text method
> draws at a very big size regardless of the chosen font. The problem is that
> the transformation matrix for the text is not set.
> 
> Here is the fix if anyone needs it:
> 
> module HotCocoa::Graphics
>  class Canvas
>def text(txt="A", x=0, y=0)
>  affine = CGContextGetCTM(@ctx)
>  CGContextSetTextMatrix (@ctx, affine);
>  txt = txt.to_s unless txt.kind_of?(String)
>  if @registration == :center
>width = textwidth(txt)
>x = x - width / 2
>y = y + @fsize / 2
>  end
>  CGContextShowTextAtPoint(@ctx, x, y, txt, txt.length)
>end
>  end
> end

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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Perry E. Metzger 
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:53:23 -0600 Michael Gehl  wrote:
> I'd like to second the question on HotCocoa status - is it dead, in
> limbo, quietly flourishing, ???

As others have said, it seems to be in limbo (which strikes me as a
great shame).

Would anyone who was previously involved in the maintenance of the
project explain what would be involved in a new set of people
maintaining the code base?

Perry
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Manfred Stienstra 

On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> Would anyone who was previously involved in the maintenance of the
> project explain what would be involved in a new set of people
> maintaining the code base?

The blessed repository is on GitHub [1]. I'm sure Rich would love to accept 
patches for the  from anyone who's interested in working on it.

Manfred

[1] https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] is hotcocoa dead ?

2011-03-24 Thread Vincenzo Piombo 
Gary,
 Thanks for the info.
I'm surprised you say there could be size problems in the produced app. Do
you mean that if I write the same app using IB and hotcocoa the last one
would be sensibly larger ? Why ?

Enzo

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Gary Weaver  wrote:

> Vincenzo,
>
> There was work on HotCocoa at least as recently as Jan 11, 2011, I think.
>
> Here is the github graph of changes:
> https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network
>
> As of today (3/24/2011), this is the most recent list of committers (I
> think):
> https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa/contributors
>
> dj2 (dan sinclair)
> richkilmer (Richard Kilmer)
> isaac (Isaac Kearse)
> mattetti (Matt Aimonetti)
> jamis (Jamis Buck)
> hellopatrick (Patrick)
> reborg (reborg)
>
> Last change in the wiki was 10 months ago (6/10/2010):
> http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoa?action=history
>
> Unfortunately, I think it is an effort off to the side of the macruby team
> and core developers that hasn't gotten much attention. I know many
> (including myself) would like to see it succeed though. It was a lot of fun
> to work with for the few days that I did, and fun toys that you can create
> cool things with quickly can often do really well. The main problems I think
> have been the lack of attention, lack of development, and the large size of
> the produced application, at least in earlier versions.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> On 3/23/11 5:52 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>  I discovered macruby since a few weeks and I'm really enthusiast.
>> I begun playing with it and really like the hotcocoa approach, but it
>> seems stopped since more than a year, is it still maintained ?
>>
>> Anyway, I think I found a bug in the hotcocoa canvas part: the text method
>> draws at a very big size regardless of the chosen font. The problem is that
>> the transformation matrix for the text is not set.
>>
>> Here is the fix if anyone needs it:
>>
>> module HotCocoa::Graphics
>>  class Canvas
>>def text(txt="A", x=0, y=0)
>>  affine = CGContextGetCTM(@ctx)
>>  CGContextSetTextMatrix (@ctx, affine);
>>  txt = txt.to_s unless txt.kind_of?(String)
>>  if @registration == :center
>>width = textwidth(txt)
>>x = x - width / 2
>>y = y + @fsize / 2
>>  end
>>  CGContextShowTextAtPoint(@ctx, x, y, txt, txt.length)
>>end
>>  end
>> end
>>
>>
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] is hotcocoa dead ?

2011-03-24 Thread Gary Weaver 

Enzo,

I've not used it in a few versions, but when I used to do "macrake 
deploy", it would copy all of the macruby framework, which at least used 
to be large, making the .app usually ~150MB. Isaac Kearse had a fix for 
that a while back, and possibly someone else has fixed it since.


More info:
http://isaac.kearse.co.nz/2010/02/01/packaging-hotcocoa/
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03690.html

List archives search:
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=macruby-devel+hotcocoa&l=macruby-devel%40lists.macosforge.org

Gary


On 3/24/11 3:24 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:

Gary,
 Thanks for the info.
I'm surprised you say there could be size problems in the produced 
app. Do you mean that if I write the same app using IB and hotcocoa 
the last one would be sensibly larger ? Why ?


Enzo

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Gary Weaver > wrote:


Vincenzo,

There was work on HotCocoa at least as recently as Jan 11, 2011, I
think.

Here is the github graph of changes:
https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network

As of today (3/24/2011), this is the most recent list of
committers (I think):
https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa/contributors

dj2 (dan sinclair)
richkilmer (Richard Kilmer)
isaac (Isaac Kearse)
mattetti (Matt Aimonetti)
jamis (Jamis Buck)
hellopatrick (Patrick)
reborg (reborg)

Last change in the wiki was 10 months ago (6/10/2010):
http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoa?action=history

Unfortunately, I think it is an effort off to the side of the
macruby team and core developers that hasn't gotten much
attention. I know many (including myself) would like to see it
succeed though. It was a lot of fun to work with for the few days
that I did, and fun toys that you can create cool things with
quickly can often do really well. The main problems I think have
been the lack of attention, lack of development, and the large
size of the produced application, at least in earlier versions.

Gary



On 3/23/11 5:52 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:

Hello all,
 I discovered macruby since a few weeks and I'm really enthusiast.
I begun playing with it and really like the hotcocoa approach,
but it seems stopped since more than a year, is it still
maintained ?

Anyway, I think I found a bug in the hotcocoa canvas part: the
text method draws at a very big size regardless of the chosen
font. The problem is that the transformation matrix for the
text is not set.

Here is the fix if anyone needs it:

module HotCocoa::Graphics
 class Canvas
   def text(txt="A", x=0, y=0)
 affine = CGContextGetCTM(@ctx)
 CGContextSetTextMatrix (@ctx, affine);
 txt = txt.to_s unless txt.kind_of?(String)
 if @registration == :center
   width = textwidth(txt)
   x = x - width / 2
   y = y + @fsize / 2
 end
 CGContextShowTextAtPoint(@ctx, x, y, txt, txt.length)
   end
 end
end


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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Matt Aimonetti 
Rich just sold his company to Living Social and I'm sure he's really busy
ATM.
If people are willing to hack on this project and maintain it (the core team
won't), we probably should move it to its own repo and give commit rights to
people.

Who's interested in created a HotCocoa team?

Thanks,

- Matt


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Manfred Stienstra wrote:

>
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>
> > Would anyone who was previously involved in the maintenance of the
> > project explain what would be involved in a new set of people
> > maintaining the code base?
>
> The blessed repository is on GitHub [1]. I'm sure Rich would love to accept
> patches for the  from anyone who's interested in working on it.
>
> Manfred
>
> [1] https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread dan sinclair 
For me, I've basically dropped HotCocoa. After doing a few apps with it I 
quickly came to realize that I liked IB and building apps that way. The thing 
that I've missed from HotCocoa is all the little Ruby-ish extensions that it 
added to various classes. As I've built other apps I've been collecting up a 
few of those and decided to stuff them into a gem.

You can see them at https://github.com/dj2/Bean if you're interested.

Out of curiosity, what's the correct way to mark a gem as MacRuby only so I can 
push it up to rubygems.org?

dan




On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:

> Rich just sold his company to Living Social and I'm sure he's really busy ATM.
> If people are willing to hack on this project and maintain it (the core team 
> won't), we probably should move it to its own repo and give commit rights to 
> people.
> 
> Who's interested in created a HotCocoa team?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Matt
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Manfred Stienstra  wrote:
> 
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> 
> > Would anyone who was previously involved in the maintenance of the
> > project explain what would be involved in a new set of people
> > maintaining the code base?
> 
> The blessed repository is on GitHub [1]. I'm sure Rich would love to accept 
> patches for the  from anyone who's interested in working on it.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> [1] https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Matt Aimonetti 
 > Out of curiosity, what's the correct way to mark a gem as MacRuby only so
I can push it up to rubygems.org?

Currently, there isn't any because rubygems only has a concept of platform
and not of Ruby engine :(

- Matt

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:21 PM, dan sinclair  wrote:

> For me, I've basically dropped HotCocoa. After doing a few apps with it I
> quickly came to realize that I liked IB and building apps that way. The
> thing that I've missed from HotCocoa is all the little Ruby-ish extensions
> that it added to various classes. As I've built other apps I've been
> collecting up a few of those and decided to stuff them into a gem.
>
> You can see them at https://github.com/dj2/Bean if you're interested.
>
> Out of curiosity, what's the correct way to mark a gem as MacRuby only so I
> can push it up to rubygems.org?
>
> dan
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
>
> > Rich just sold his company to Living Social and I'm sure he's really busy
> ATM.
> > If people are willing to hack on this project and maintain it (the core
> team won't), we probably should move it to its own repo and give commit
> rights to people.
> >
> > Who's interested in created a HotCocoa team?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Matt
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Manfred Stienstra 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> >
> > > Would anyone who was previously involved in the maintenance of the
> > > project explain what would be involved in a new set of people
> > > maintaining the code base?
> >
> > The blessed repository is on GitHub [1]. I'm sure Rich would love to
> accept patches for the  from anyone who's interested in working on it.
> >
> > Manfred
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard 

On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:

> Rich just sold his company to Living Social and I'm sure he's really busy ATM.
> If people are willing to hack on this project and maintain it (the core team 
> won't), we probably should move it to its own repo and give commit rights to 
> people.
> 
> Who's interested in created a HotCocoa team?

I thought the project's being on GitHub facilitated this already?  You guys 
should be able to start forking away and coordinating your patches over email 
if there's any real interest in creating such a team!  I think it would be 
interesting, myself, particularly if it led to the creation of something that 
could compare to Processing. :)

- Jordan

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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Buddy Lindsey, Jr. 
> Currently, there isn't any because rubygems only has a concept of platform
and not of Ruby engine :(

Is that a potential feature they might be willing to add or is it in the
roadmap?
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:

> > Out of curiosity, what's the correct way to mark a gem as MacRuby only so
> I can push it up to rubygems.org?
>
> Currently, there isn't any because rubygems only has a concept of platform
> and not of Ruby engine :(
>
> - Matt
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:21 PM, dan sinclair  wrote:
>
>> For me, I've basically dropped HotCocoa. After doing a few apps with it I
>> quickly came to realize that I liked IB and building apps that way. The
>> thing that I've missed from HotCocoa is all the little Ruby-ish extensions
>> that it added to various classes. As I've built other apps I've been
>> collecting up a few of those and decided to stuff them into a gem.
>>
>> You can see them at https://github.com/dj2/Bean if you're interested.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, what's the correct way to mark a gem as MacRuby only so
>> I can push it up to rubygems.org?
>>
>> dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
>>
>> > Rich just sold his company to Living Social and I'm sure he's really
>> busy ATM.
>> > If people are willing to hack on this project and maintain it (the core
>> team won't), we probably should move it to its own repo and give commit
>> rights to people.
>> >
>> > Who's interested in created a HotCocoa team?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > - Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Manfred Stienstra 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>> >
>> > > Would anyone who was previously involved in the maintenance of the
>> > > project explain what would be involved in a new set of people
>> > > maintaining the code base?
>> >
>> > The blessed repository is on GitHub [1]. I'm sure Rich would love to
>> accept patches for the  from anyone who's interested in working on it.
>> >
>> > Manfred
>> >
>> > [1] https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] Is HotCocoa dead?

2011-03-24 Thread Matt Aimonetti 
Jordan, moving to GitHub helped but it also created fragmentation. Everyone
is working on its own fork and there is nobody to centralize all the changes
in a single repo.
I agree that having a MacRuby based Processing like solution would be
awesome.

- Matt

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard  wrote:

>
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
>
> > Rich just sold his company to Living Social and I'm sure he's really busy
> ATM.
> > If people are willing to hack on this project and maintain it (the core
> team won't), we probably should move it to its own repo and give commit
> rights to people.
> >
> > Who's interested in created a HotCocoa team?
>
> I thought the project's being on GitHub facilitated this already?  You guys
> should be able to start forking away and coordinating your patches over
> email if there's any real interest in creating such a team!  I think it
> would be interesting, myself, particularly if it led to the creation of
> something that could compare to Processing. :)
>
> - Jordan
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