Re: issue with mail and new safari 4 beta

2009-05-21 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi Jessi, what i usually do is have my preview pane turned off, and  
instead of hitting VO J to read my messages, I can  simply hit return,  
and VO will start reading the message which I've selected.  In WIndows  
back when I used it,  I heard that having the preview pane on in a  
mail client can result in increased chances of getting  viruses, i  
never believed that, but I usually turned it off anyway, but if you  
like it, that's cool too.  If however you do want to turn it off,  
ifyou  go to the messages table,and  VO down arrow from there, there's  
a horrizontle splitter, which you'lll want to route your mouse to, and  
double click on it VO shift space twice, and that'll get rid of your  
preview pane.  Then when you want to read a message, you can hit enter  
on the message you want to read, and VO should read it just fine.   
Hope this helps.

On May 21, 2009, at 11:03 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

> hey guys
> I'm back on my mac, yay yay and more yay!!! thank goodness, lol
> when I booted it up after not for a week, the new safari 4 beta was  
> there to greet me in the software update. how lovely!! so I  
> installed it.
>
> now, I seem to be having a problem with mail. I'll be reading my  
> messages, but after awhile when I VO J on a message, VO just says  
> scroll area and it won't let me read the message. I can't interact  
> with it or anything. if I VO J again it'll bring me back into the  
> messages table, but it won't let me read any other messages. the  
> only way I can get this to stop is to quit mail and reopen it again,  
> and that's very inconvenient!!!
> has anyone else had this issue and if so how did you go about fixing  
> it? is it a bug with the new safari 4 beta? cuz it only happened  
> after I installed that!!! thanks.
> peace and positivity
> Jessi
> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
> >


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Re: issue with mail and new safari 4 beta

2009-05-21 Thread Brett Campbell
Hey, the problem I first encountered in mail after installing Safari 4  
beta, was when replying to an email, I had to interact with the edit  
box in order to have Alex speak what I was typing.  Prior to this I  
could just tab to the reply edit box and hear everything.  I only had  
to interact if I needed to spell check or edit.  I decided to go back  
to Safari 3.

Brett



On May 21, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:

> hey guys
> I'm back on my mac, yay yay and more yay!!! thank goodness, lol
> when I booted it up after not for a week, the new safari 4 beta was  
> there to greet me in the software update. how lovely!! so I  
> installed it.
>
> now, I seem to be having a problem with mail. I'll be reading my  
> messages, but after awhile when I VO J on a message, VO just says  
> scroll area and it won't let me read the message. I can't interact  
> with it or anything. if I VO J again it'll bring me back into the  
> messages table, but it won't let me read any other messages. the  
> only way I can get this to stop is to quit mail and reopen it again,  
> and that's very inconvenient!!!
> has anyone else had this issue and if so how did you go about fixing  
> it? is it a bug with the new safari 4 beta? cuz it only happened  
> after I installed that!!! thanks.
> peace and positivity
> Jessi
> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
> >


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Re: issue with mail and new safari 4 beta

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina

ah, cool. well, thankfully, the weird mail behavior has stopped for  
the time being? hopefully it was just a fluke thing and it's gonna act  
right now lol.
peace and positivity
Jessi
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On 21-May-09, at 8:12 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> I use an alternate form of navigation in Mail, where I don't actually
> interact with the messages table unless I specifically need to, and
> use Tab to cycle back and forth between the message content area and
> the messages table, and regular arrows to move in the messages table.
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>
>
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Re: issue with mail and new safari 4 beta

2009-05-21 Thread Mark Baxter

I use an alternate form of navigation in Mail, where I don't actually  
interact with the messages table unless I specifically need to, and  
use Tab to cycle back and forth between the message content area and  
the messages table, and regular arrows to move in the messages table.

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issue with mail and new safari 4 beta

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey guys
I'm back on my mac, yay yay and more yay!!! thank goodness, lol
when I booted it up after not for a week, the new safari 4 beta was  
there to greet me in the software update. how lovely!! so I installed  
it.

now, I seem to be having a problem with mail. I'll be reading my  
messages, but after awhile when I VO J on a message, VO just says  
scroll area and it won't let me read the message. I can't interact  
with it or anything. if I VO J again it'll bring me back into the  
messages table, but it won't let me read any other messages. the only  
way I can get this to stop is to quit mail and reopen it again, and  
that's very inconvenient!!!
has anyone else had this issue and if so how did you go about fixing  
it? is it a bug with the new safari 4 beta? cuz it only happened after  
I installed that!!! thanks.
peace and positivity
Jessi
follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
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Re: vo and twitterific

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi and Goldina

or you could follow me too :) but yeah. that's your problem, you need  
some followers!! then it'll bring up the table.
and I'll stop now cuz I don't want this to turn into a "follow me!"  
post. lol
Jessi
follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
On 21-May-09, at 5:17 PM, Arthur Pirika wrote:

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> hi, it's a fresh account so, no followers.
>
> Arthur.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Baxter" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: vo and twitterific
>
>
>>
>> Do you have any followers to put in a table?
>>
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>>
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> My home page:
>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >


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Re: CAPTCHA solution service for Mac users

2009-05-21 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,
Bernard,

It works on Linux too.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 7-May-09, at 9:25 PM, Solona wrote:

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> Hello everyone.  My name is Bernard Maldonado.  I just joined the
> group.  Mac Visionaries seems like an awesome resource for people who
> want to embrace the power and capabilities of what Apple has to
> offer.  After all, it is truly a superior product over any of the PC
> clone competitors.
>
> I would like to thank Cara for giving me permission to post this note.
>
> Please allow me to introduce an online service that may be of interest
> to Mac Visionaries.  Solona, found at http://www.Solona.net , is a
> Human Assisted CAPTCHA Solution Service for blind and visually
> impaired people.  The service is fully compatible with Apple users as
> well as Windows users.  Solona is especially helpful when signing up
> for a website that employs a CAPTCHA on the registration page.  Here
> are some of the main principles promoted at Solona:
>
> 1. full disclosure about the service (who, how, what, etc)
> 2. security and privacy for each user is paramount and documented
> 3. platform independent (works on Windows, Mac)
> 4. fast, efficient, and reliable service to users with minimal
> interaction
> 5. free service with no levels of membership
> 6. provide research and information about websites and how CAPTCHAS
> are implemented in the form of blog articles.
>
> I welcome any questions, comments, or concerns that you may have.
> Feel free to contact me and I'm happy to talk!  Any suggestions about
> how to make the service better are greatly appreciated.
>
> The Twitter name is Solona .  Twitter is used for announcements and
> news about Solona.
>
> There's much more information on the website, so I won't take more
> time in this post.  The Mac instructions are posted on the "How it
> works" page.
>
> In closing, I would like to share one interesting, yet possibly ironic
> thought that is frequently on my mind about this service:  I hope that
> Solona fails, but for the right reasons.  At some point in the future,
> Solona should be made obsolete by the implementation of fully
> accessible anti spam tools on registration pages.  That will be a
> major milestone for the Internet, and I look forward to that day.  In
> the meantime, I will continue to invest time and resources into Solona
> so that it is a reliable and valuable resource in the blind community,
> and I will advocate for accessible anti spam registration tools.
>
> Bernard.
>
> >


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Re: vo and twitterific

2009-05-21 Thread Mark Baxter

I believe you need to follow someone, or be followed by someone, in  
order to generate any table.  Go to the text box in Twitterific and type
follow BurningHawk1969


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Re: vo and twitterific

2009-05-21 Thread Arthur Pirika

hi, it's a fresh account so, no followers.

Arthur.

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To: 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: vo and twitterific


>
> Do you have any followers to put in a table?
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
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>
> >
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Re: vo and twitterific

2009-05-21 Thread Mark Baxter

Do you have any followers to put in a table?


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Re: vo and twitterific

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Babcock

hi;
give it a few moments, it is downloading tweets for you.
with best regards
mike
On May 21, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Pirika wrote:

>
> Hi, all, I have an interesting problem with twitterific. When I run  
> the
> program, it loads just fine, and asks for twitter name and password,  
> which I
> entered. how, it now only comes up with a configure button, an image  
> and a
> quit button. Nowhere for sending a tweet, or a table, or list of  
> tweets.
> Also, when i bring up the menu with vo-m, it brings up the menu for  
> finer,
> and not twitterific. Any suggestions?
>
> thanks,
> Arthur.
>
>
> >

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vo and twitterific

2009-05-21 Thread Arthur Pirika

Hi, all, I have an interesting problem with twitterific. When I run the 
program, it loads just fine, and asks for twitter name and password, which I 
entered. how, it now only comes up with a configure button, an image and a 
quit button. Nowhere for sending a tweet, or a table, or list of tweets. 
Also, when i bring up the menu with vo-m, it brings up the menu for finer, 
and not twitterific. Any suggestions?

thanks,
Arthur. 


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Re: quickbooks 2009 appears to be accessible with voiceover.

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Babcock

hi john;
wow, simply remarkable, do you know of a place one can download a demo  
of it at all?
with best regards
Michael
On May 21, 2009, at 3:00 PM, John J Herzog wrote:

>
> Hi listers,
> I was playing around with quickbooks 2009, which is a money  
> management/
> account management program for small businesses. To my surprise, it
> appears to be entirely accessible. The only small problem is that when
> you open a company file, you are placed on a homepage that voiceover
> cannot interact with. Hit command w to close this window, and then
> interact with the toolbar. There are lots of options in there, such as
> customers, snapshots, venders, etc. Clicking on any of these options
> gives you the info, which is displayed in several tables. It reads
> nicely with voiceover, and the buttons to edit the info are even
> labeled.
>
> I hope this is helpful to somebody. Also note that I have only messed
> around at a basic level with this software, so there may be a feature
> somewhere that does not work.
>
> John
>
> >

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quickbooks 2009 appears to be accessible with voiceover.

2009-05-21 Thread John J Herzog

Hi listers,
I was playing around with quickbooks 2009, which is a money management/ 
account management program for small businesses. To my surprise, it  
appears to be entirely accessible. The only small problem is that when  
you open a company file, you are placed on a homepage that voiceover  
cannot interact with. Hit command w to close this window, and then  
interact with the toolbar. There are lots of options in there, such as  
customers, snapshots, venders, etc. Clicking on any of these options  
gives you the info, which is displayed in several tables. It reads  
nicely with voiceover, and the buttons to edit the info are even  
labeled.

I hope this is helpful to somebody. Also note that I have only messed  
around at a basic level with this software, so there may be a feature  
somewhere that does not work.

John 

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Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle

2009-05-21 Thread Scott Howell

You are correct, the clips are generated on the machine you are  
syncing with. So, if you are running Tiger and since Alex is not a  
voice available to Tiger, you won't have that voice available. I don't  
know what Apple can possibly do unless they choose to include Alex as  
a voice for Tiger or as a voice for iTunes to use. I guess this is how  
the voices are generated for other languages.


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Re: wonderful news about apple care

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi R

life in mac land is awesome for me, I can't wait to get back to mine today!! 
lol. I've been using my pc for a week now and it's driving me crazy!!! I 
know exactly why I switched!! I guess it's good to have a little reality 
check every once in awhile lol. but ooh wee!!! I reunderstand now!!! hahaha.
that's awesome the apple care representitive you spoke with uses VO though!! 
yay!!! I'm always telling people about voiceover lol. I'm sure I bore people 
with it all the time but it's become quite the passion of mine!! I liked 
technology before I switched, but I was never this passionate about my 
computer before!! now I'm always telling everyone about the mac and how 
awesome it is and when I find another voiceover user it's like yes!! lol.
peace and positivity:)
Jessi with guide dog Goldina
I am only one but I am one,
I can't do everything but I can do something,
the something I can do, I must do,
and by the grace of God, I will!
count it all joy, no matter what!
- Original Message - 
From: "Ben King" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:41 AM
Subject: wonderful news about apple care


>
> Dear Listers,
>
> How is life in Mac Land.  It is pretty awesome for me!  Anyway, I just
> wanted to post and say that I called Apple Care the other day and the
> person with whom I spoke with uses VO!  How fantastic is that!  I am
> very excited.  Voiceover is growing everyday.  So spread the word
> about how awesome and cool Voiceover is.  I hope you have a mactastic
> day.
> I was just trying to be funny.
>
> Blessings,
> Ben King
>
> > 


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Re: wonderful news about apple care

2009-05-21 Thread chantel cuddemi

Well, that's great, Ben.
I am so glad you are enjoying the mac, and that more and more people  
are using voiceover. That's awesome.
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> Dear Listers,
>
> How is life in Mac Land.  It is pretty awesome for me!  Anyway, I just
> wanted to post and say that I called Apple Care the other day and the
> person with whom I spoke with uses VO!  How fantastic is that!  I am
> very excited.  Voiceover is growing everyday.  So spread the word
> about how awesome and cool Voiceover is.  I hope you have a mactastic
> day.
> I was just trying to be funny.
>
> Blessings,
> Ben King
>
> >


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wonderful news about apple care

2009-05-21 Thread Ben King

Dear Listers,

How is life in Mac Land.  It is pretty awesome for me!  Anyway, I just  
wanted to post and say that I called Apple Care the other day and the  
person with whom I spoke with uses VO!  How fantastic is that!  I am  
very excited.  Voiceover is growing everyday.  So spread the word  
about how awesome and cool Voiceover is.  I hope you have a mactastic  
day.
I was just trying to be funny.

Blessings,
Ben King

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Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle

2009-05-21 Thread Jessi R

hmmm. that doesn't seem like an inaccessibility to me, it makes sense.if 
you're using tiger, you'd get the tiger voices cuz Alex isn't installed with 
Tiger so there'd be nothing to sync to for it right? since the voices come 
off your computer? or maybe the shuffle is different. but I'd still think 
that if you were syncing with tiger, you wouldn't be able to get alex. but 
maybe I'm wrong. I have a nano lol.
peace and positivity:)
Jessi with guide dog Goldina
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I can't do everything but I can do something,
the something I can do, I must do,
and by the grace of God, I will!
count it all joy, no matter what!
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From: "M AUSTEN" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle




Hello Dave,

Thanks you for your reply.

I have and iMac G5 running iTunes 8 and when I Sync the iPod with it
it installs the windows version of VoiceOver Voice as heard on the advert on 
the Apple web page. Not the Alex voice.

After and hour on the phone to Apple Care Support I was told that there was 
no way no way I could get the better Apple VoiceOver Voice if Syncing  in 
Tiger.

I just wanted to comment on this at Accessibility.

Mark


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> From: Dave Wright 
> Subject: Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 5:59 PM
> Good afternoon Mark,
> What kinds of issues are you experiencing? Perhaps members
> of the list might
> have some ideas? I think as a whole we make the best
> accessibility
> department there is.
>
>
> Best Regards:
> Dave Wright
> Work Phone: 651-636-5184 X803
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> dwri...@gmail.com
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> http://www.knfbreader.com
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "M AUSTEN" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:43 AM
> Subject: Issues with New iPod Shuffle
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a new iPod Shuffle 3G.
>
> I'm having some issues that can't be solved over
> the phone with Apple Care
> Support.
>
> Does anyone have the contact details for Apple Support for
> Accessibility?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle

2009-05-21 Thread M AUSTEN


Hello Dave,

Thanks you for your reply.

I have and iMac G5 running iTunes 8 and when I Sync the iPod with it 
it installs the windows version of VoiceOver Voice as heard on the advert on 
the Apple web page. Not the Alex voice.

After and hour on the phone to Apple Care Support I was told that there was no 
way no way I could get the better Apple VoiceOver Voice if Syncing  in Tiger.

I just wanted to comment on this at Accessibility.

Mark


--- On Thu, 21/5/09, Dave Wright  wrote:

> From: Dave Wright 
> Subject: Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 5:59 PM
> Good afternoon Mark,
> What kinds of issues are you experiencing? Perhaps members
> of the list might 
> have some ideas? I think as a whole we make the best
> accessibility 
> department there is.
> 
> 
> Best Regards:
> Dave Wright
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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "M AUSTEN" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:43 AM
> Subject: Issues with New iPod Shuffle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a new iPod Shuffle 3G.
> 
> I'm having some issues that can't be solved over
> the phone with Apple Care 
> Support.
> 
> Does anyone have the contact details for Apple Support for
> Accessibility?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle

2009-05-21 Thread Dave Wright

Good afternoon Mark,
What kinds of issues are you experiencing? Perhaps members of the list might 
have some ideas? I think as a whole we make the best accessibility 
department there is.


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- Original Message - 
From: "M AUSTEN" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:43 AM
Subject: Issues with New iPod Shuffle




Hi,

I have a new iPod Shuffle 3G.

I'm having some issues that can't be solved over the phone with Apple Care 
Support.

Does anyone have the contact details for Apple Support for Accessibility?

Thanks,

Mark



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Re: Issues with New iPod Shuffle

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Babcock

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On May 21, 2009, at 7:43 AM, M AUSTEN wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a new iPod Shuffle 3G.
>
> I'm having some issues that can't be solved over the phone with  
> Apple Care Support.
>
> Does anyone have the contact details for Apple Support for  
> Accessibility?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> >

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Issues with New iPod Shuffle

2009-05-21 Thread M AUSTEN


Hi,

I have a new iPod Shuffle 3G.

I'm having some issues that can't be solved over the phone with Apple Care 
Support.

Does anyone have the contact details for Apple Support for Accessibility?

Thanks,

Mark

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