Tips for using terminal with VO?

2010-09-16 Thread Garry Turkington
Hi,

Every so often I try moving my terminal-related activities from either
a Windows or Linux box to the Mac.  And each time I find the
interaction between VO and the Mac terminal sufficiently frustrating
that I give up for another 6 months.

After just changing jobs I'm trying to rationalise my IT usage and
right now this is the biggest thing I'm not doing on the Mac.  In
particular I need access a lot of remote Linux boxes, where I'm doing
various types of development, sysadmin, operational deployments and
support, all that good stuff.

What I really look for in terms of access to such an environment is
two things in particular; accurate cursor tracking while in editors
(or indeed editing CLI strings) and automatic feedback after typing
shell commands.

On the former I've used vim and nano remotely and the best I can get
is semi-accurate cursor tracking, though after cursoring around a bit
I often get spurious results, different parts of the window read, a
skew on the character under the cursor, that sort of thing.

For the latter I find myself often doing a very long series of shell
commands which have short output strings and having to physically use
VO to review each time starts to be a timesink when I'm doing it
hundreds of times a day.

I've also seen VO crash hard when doing terminal reviewing which also
doesn't help!

So has anyone found particular terminal settings to alleviate any of
these issues?  Or indeed found different approaches to my desires that
I'm possibly not considering.  I know people here have had success
with things like Mac Vim (thanks to Esther for the tip) and I guess I
could use that remotely if I used one of the tools to remotely mount a
filesystem via SSH but given I need access a whole bunch of machines
it's likely not practical.

Any thoughts very welcomed.

Thanks,
Garry

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RE: Braille Note, Power Point and a Mac

2010-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
Mike,

 Yeah under office powerpoint, you are able to save the document as an
outline, which should if the ppt has been setup correctly, allow them to
save the text as an rtf document.
Its been a while since I've done this but pretty sure if you go into the ppt
file and go save as. Then under type, you should find outline as one of the
last file types in the list. Try that and see how it goes.

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Subject: Braille Note, Power Point and a Mac

I need some advice and since this list has been so helpful so often, I
thought I would see if someone can enlighten me.

I will soon be receiving Power Point presentations in German that will need
to be translated into English.  For reasons that aren't important here, I
will not be inserting my translated texts into a Power Point presentation.
For the most part, the Power Point presentations will be produced Microsoft
Office 2010, though I could ask the author to save them under an earlier
version of Office.

What I want to do is convert the Power Point presentations to plain ASCII or
Text, copy them to a USB memory stick and then read them on my Braille Note
Empower.  The Braile Note can also handle RTF files.

Any suggestions on how to accomplish this would be greatly appreciated.  By
the way, I have iWork, should it be necessary to use this suite of programs.

Thanking you in advance,

Mike

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Re: Tips for using terminal with VO?

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Howell
My opinion is that you use something like VMWare's Fusion and setup a simple 
Linux distro with Speakup and perform your shell-based activities there.
On Sep 16, 2010, at 4:57 AM, Garry Turkington wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Every so often I try moving my terminal-related activities from either
> a Windows or Linux box to the Mac.  And each time I find the
> interaction between VO and the Mac terminal sufficiently frustrating
> that I give up for another 6 months.
> 
> After just changing jobs I'm trying to rationalise my IT usage and
> right now this is the biggest thing I'm not doing on the Mac.  In
> particular I need access a lot of remote Linux boxes, where I'm doing
> various types of development, sysadmin, operational deployments and
> support, all that good stuff.
> 
> What I really look for in terms of access to such an environment is
> two things in particular; accurate cursor tracking while in editors
> (or indeed editing CLI strings) and automatic feedback after typing
> shell commands.
> 
> On the former I've used vim and nano remotely and the best I can get
> is semi-accurate cursor tracking, though after cursoring around a bit
> I often get spurious results, different parts of the window read, a
> skew on the character under the cursor, that sort of thing.
> 
> For the latter I find myself often doing a very long series of shell
> commands which have short output strings and having to physically use
> VO to review each time starts to be a timesink when I'm doing it
> hundreds of times a day.
> 
> I've also seen VO crash hard when doing terminal reviewing which also
> doesn't help!
> 
> So has anyone found particular terminal settings to alleviate any of
> these issues?  Or indeed found different approaches to my desires that
> I'm possibly not considering.  I know people here have had success
> with things like Mac Vim (thanks to Esther for the tip) and I guess I
> could use that remotely if I used one of the tools to remotely mount a
> filesystem via SSH but given I need access a whole bunch of machines
> it's likely not practical.
> 
> Any thoughts very welcomed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Garry
> 
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Re: Tips for using terminal with VO?

2010-09-16 Thread Garry Turkington
Hi Scott,

That's exactly what I've been doing, though currently with VMware
Workstation on a Windows host.  I have Fusion on my personal MBP but
may have some issues putting a VM atop my Mac at work.

Given the Mac is built atop Unix and VO almost works with terminal
though I'd really prefer to have a single OS solution, hence the query
if anyone has found ways of optimising the VO/terminal experience.

Thanks,
Garry

On 9/16/10, Scott Howell  wrote:
> My opinion is that you use something like VMWare's Fusion and setup a simple
> Linux distro with Speakup and perform your shell-based activities there.
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 4:57 AM, Garry Turkington wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Every so often I try moving my terminal-related activities from either
>> a Windows or Linux box to the Mac.  And each time I find the
>> interaction between VO and the Mac terminal sufficiently frustrating
>> that I give up for another 6 months.
>>
>> After just changing jobs I'm trying to rationalise my IT usage and
>> right now this is the biggest thing I'm not doing on the Mac.  In
>> particular I need access a lot of remote Linux boxes, where I'm doing
>> various types of development, sysadmin, operational deployments and
>> support, all that good stuff.
>>
>> What I really look for in terms of access to such an environment is
>> two things in particular; accurate cursor tracking while in editors
>> (or indeed editing CLI strings) and automatic feedback after typing
>> shell commands.
>>
>> On the former I've used vim and nano remotely and the best I can get
>> is semi-accurate cursor tracking, though after cursoring around a bit
>> I often get spurious results, different parts of the window read, a
>> skew on the character under the cursor, that sort of thing.
>>
>> For the latter I find myself often doing a very long series of shell
>> commands which have short output strings and having to physically use
>> VO to review each time starts to be a timesink when I'm doing it
>> hundreds of times a day.
>>
>> I've also seen VO crash hard when doing terminal reviewing which also
>> doesn't help!
>>
>> So has anyone found particular terminal settings to alleviate any of
>> these issues?  Or indeed found different approaches to my desires that
>> I'm possibly not considering.  I know people here have had success
>> with things like Mac Vim (thanks to Esther for the tip) and I guess I
>> could use that remotely if I used one of the tools to remotely mount a
>> filesystem via SSH but given I need access a whole bunch of machines
>> it's likely not practical.
>>
>> Any thoughts very welcomed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Garry
>>
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Re: duo core or i5 in mbp

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
I remember the ESQ with the cartridge storage.

I had a pile of gear mainly a Roland S50 (2 of them) complete with the MT100 
tablets, TR808, Akai S5000, Roland D50, Roland U220 and a pile of outboard DSP. 
 I never used it at the time though because at work I had access to an 
Audioframe, Synclavier 6400 and Fairlight CMI series III.


On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> I have a juno G,  great machine.  Especially if you expand the ram.
> On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> My old Ensoniq ESQ1 has been replaced by a Roland Juno-G but the ESQ1 is 
>> still in the basement somewhere. Weighs about 30-40 pounds so it wasn't fun 
>> lugging around. I remember having a lot of fun with a Yamaha DX7 in the 
>> early 80s making lots of interesting but not do musical sounds with it. Now 
>> days there are kids and family life outside of work so not much noodling 
>> with macs and music.
>> 
>> I still have some old PowerMac 9500s that I use for firewalls of all things 
>> since they have no command line to hack into. As one dies I just grab 
>> another from the pile.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 9/13/10 7:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Speaking of old Mac gear, I know the Synclavier has been reworked around 
>>> Modern Intel Macs now.  I wonder if you could grab an old post pro SD or 
>>> 9600 from Ebay and use it with Voice over.  I saw one from Lucass Film on 
>>> ebay for under 10 grand and I think you can get one from synclavier.com for 
>>> under 25 grand which might osund like a lot but they were 750 large back in 
>>> the day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I used to work with one (synclavier 6400) and loved it!
>>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
 Right, this was just straight audio recording. Any processing was done 
 with outboard gear or post processed. Software synths and effects can 
 definitely chew up a lot of CPU. While I haven't played with this a lot I 
 would assume rendering out the processed track to a new track would free 
 up some resources. Back then we had a 32-channel analog Mackie fed into a 
 Mac ProTools rig. At home I was running a little MOTU 8-channel firewire 
 box with their Sound Desk software. Haven't played with it in years so I 
 don't know if they even make it anymore or if it would work with OSX. 
 Someday I should put the stuff I don't use up on ebay, just too much 
 bother and would anyone still want a Emu Proteus MIDI box or a DAT 
 recorder anymore :)
 
 CB
 
 On 9/13/10 5:02 PM, Cameron wrote:
> Hi.  it depends on what sort of recording we're referring to; If we are
> talking about audio tracks, or, soft synths/virtual instruments that use
> wave streaming etc.  the latter is where your processor and ram as well as
> hd rpm really become important.
> 
> Are you a voiceover user by the way?  If so, the current versions of logic
> are not accessible.  Pro tools is accessible for audio, but not for midi.
> For example, the event list editor is not accessible with vo.  Hopefully
> that will be addressed in a future update.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: duo core or i5 in mbp
> 
>  Back in the day, like 10 years ago, I was able to record 8 concurrent
> tracks on an old powerMac g4. I would suspect even mundane hardware
> today could handle all but the most extreme cases.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/8/10 6:08 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>> hi,
>> 
>> I'll be using this for lectures, some language stuff, and also
>> possibly for recording music with logic or garage band down the line.
>> My concern is future proofing. Unfortunately, you can't get the 7200
>> rpm harddrives in the 13 inch mbp's or I'd just go duo with a better
>> harddrive.
>> 
>> Gotta love apple's packaged deal options, instead of letting you
>> configure your heart out.
>> MJ
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Re: Tips for using terminal with VO?

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
That actually sounds like a really inteersting option.


I'm liking terminal but fusion seems very powerful and I like the idea of 
reving up virtual machines to quickly prototype an environment.



On Sep 16, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> My opinion is that you use something like VMWare's Fusion and setup a simple 
> Linux distro with Speakup and perform your shell-based activities there.
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 4:57 AM, Garry Turkington wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Every so often I try moving my terminal-related activities from either
>> a Windows or Linux box to the Mac.  And each time I find the
>> interaction between VO and the Mac terminal sufficiently frustrating
>> that I give up for another 6 months.
>> 
>> After just changing jobs I'm trying to rationalise my IT usage and
>> right now this is the biggest thing I'm not doing on the Mac.  In
>> particular I need access a lot of remote Linux boxes, where I'm doing
>> various types of development, sysadmin, operational deployments and
>> support, all that good stuff.
>> 
>> What I really look for in terms of access to such an environment is
>> two things in particular; accurate cursor tracking while in editors
>> (or indeed editing CLI strings) and automatic feedback after typing
>> shell commands.
>> 
>> On the former I've used vim and nano remotely and the best I can get
>> is semi-accurate cursor tracking, though after cursoring around a bit
>> I often get spurious results, different parts of the window read, a
>> skew on the character under the cursor, that sort of thing.
>> 
>> For the latter I find myself often doing a very long series of shell
>> commands which have short output strings and having to physically use
>> VO to review each time starts to be a timesink when I'm doing it
>> hundreds of times a day.
>> 
>> I've also seen VO crash hard when doing terminal reviewing which also
>> doesn't help!
>> 
>> So has anyone found particular terminal settings to alleviate any of
>> these issues?  Or indeed found different approaches to my desires that
>> I'm possibly not considering.  I know people here have had success
>> with things like Mac Vim (thanks to Esther for the tip) and I guess I
>> could use that remotely if I used one of the tools to remotely mount a
>> filesystem via SSH but given I need access a whole bunch of machines
>> it's likely not practical.
>> 
>> Any thoughts very welcomed.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Garry
>> 
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Re: rfb&d books on the mac

2010-09-16 Thread Greg Aikens
Hi Robert,
Last time I checked with RFB and D, which was a few weeks ago, there is not a 
solution for mac. But they told me that they should have something coming out 
in september. I haven't heard anything about it yet though. I would try calling 
them. 

Greg
On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Robert Hooper wrote:

> I can’t remember if this has yet been discussed, but is there a solution for 
> downloading/reading RFB&D Audio+ Books on a Mac computer? I know that RFB&D 
> heavily protects their content, and any device needs to be “authorized” 
> before it can use any material downloaded from RFB&D. Any information would 
> be appreciated, as I will soon be obtaining an Apple computer and this would 
> be great for textbooks in college  classes.
> Thanks,
> Robert Hooper
> hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
>  
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MacIrssi

2010-09-16 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi guys!

Does anyone know how to get speech in MacIrssi? I figure it might be possible, 
since I believe Esther mentioned this was possible somehow. I like the way it 
works, but that's the only feature I miss so far.

Thanks in advance for any helpful information.

Regards,
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Re: MacIrssi

2010-09-16 Thread sandi
hi, just pipe the output over in espeak, the voice is not cutesy, but  
it works... and is stable


/sandi




On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:


Hi guys!

Does anyone know how to get speech in MacIrssi? I figure it might be  
possible, since I believe Esther mentioned this was possible  
somehow. I like the way it works, but that's the only feature I miss  
so far.


Thanks in advance for any helpful information.

Regards,
Nic
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Re: Tips for using terminal with VO?

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Howell
Garry, although VO certainly works better with the Terminal than it has and 
does a great job for the limited things I need it for, I have not found it to 
be quite the entire replacement for Speakup and the shell. I hope someone does 
have other suggestions. 
On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Garry Turkington wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> That's exactly what I've been doing, though currently with VMware
> Workstation on a Windows host.  I have Fusion on my personal MBP but
> may have some issues putting a VM atop my Mac at work.
> 
> Given the Mac is built atop Unix and VO almost works with terminal
> though I'd really prefer to have a single OS solution, hence the query
> if anyone has found ways of optimising the VO/terminal experience.
> 
> Thanks,
> Garry
> 
> On 9/16/10, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> My opinion is that you use something like VMWare's Fusion and setup a simple
>> Linux distro with Speakup and perform your shell-based activities there.
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 4:57 AM, Garry Turkington wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Every so often I try moving my terminal-related activities from either
>>> a Windows or Linux box to the Mac.  And each time I find the
>>> interaction between VO and the Mac terminal sufficiently frustrating
>>> that I give up for another 6 months.
>>> 
>>> After just changing jobs I'm trying to rationalise my IT usage and
>>> right now this is the biggest thing I'm not doing on the Mac.  In
>>> particular I need access a lot of remote Linux boxes, where I'm doing
>>> various types of development, sysadmin, operational deployments and
>>> support, all that good stuff.
>>> 
>>> What I really look for in terms of access to such an environment is
>>> two things in particular; accurate cursor tracking while in editors
>>> (or indeed editing CLI strings) and automatic feedback after typing
>>> shell commands.
>>> 
>>> On the former I've used vim and nano remotely and the best I can get
>>> is semi-accurate cursor tracking, though after cursoring around a bit
>>> I often get spurious results, different parts of the window read, a
>>> skew on the character under the cursor, that sort of thing.
>>> 
>>> For the latter I find myself often doing a very long series of shell
>>> commands which have short output strings and having to physically use
>>> VO to review each time starts to be a timesink when I'm doing it
>>> hundreds of times a day.
>>> 
>>> I've also seen VO crash hard when doing terminal reviewing which also
>>> doesn't help!
>>> 
>>> So has anyone found particular terminal settings to alleviate any of
>>> these issues?  Or indeed found different approaches to my desires that
>>> I'm possibly not considering.  I know people here have had success
>>> with things like Mac Vim (thanks to Esther for the tip) and I guess I
>>> could use that remotely if I used one of the tools to remotely mount a
>>> filesystem via SSH but given I need access a whole bunch of machines
>>> it's likely not practical.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts very welcomed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Garry
>>> 
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How to get rid of the preview pain in mail

2010-09-16 Thread Corey Knapp
Hi Listers,
I was wondering how to get rid of the preview pain in mail thanks for your
time.
Corey   

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Win XP PRO with Vmware Fusion

2010-09-16 Thread Mike
Hi List:

I haven't posted for quite a while but now I'm stuck.
I'm running win xp pro on my mac with Vmware Fusion as an experiment
for my Ham radio project.
I've got remote desktop setup but I can't connect to it with my
netbook from behind my router.
I can connect to the netbook fine from the xp pro vertual machine and
when I switch back to Mac OS10.6, both machines can reach each other
fine.
I have logged in to my wireless router and set up the port for remote
desktop but I don't think that will do much good as this will only
allow from outside, not from behind the router. Anyway it didn't
work.
I've also got my user and password setup on the xp pro vertual
machine, as admin.
Any suggestions?

TNX all:

Michael

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Apps going inaccessible with Retina 4 updates? -- Speedtest for network connections

2010-09-16 Thread Esther

Hi,

I was about to post about an accessible app for testing your network  
connection upload and download speeds, but noticed that a new version  
was just released and, guess what, the app is suddenly inaccessible.   
This is a free app called Speedtest.net Mobile by Ookla.


The way the app used to work (and still does on my iPod Touch and  
iPad, which run the older version) is that you open the app and hear  
VoiceOver say, "Speedtest, start test, button", with focus on a button  
near the top center of the screen.  Flicking right would take you to 4  
buttons at the bottom of the page: (1) "selected, Speedtest" (the main  
screen, automatically selected when you enter the app) at the bottom  
left, (2) "settings", which allows you to manually change your nearest  
server,  choose the units of upload and download speed, specify  
whether your history should be sorted most recent date first or oldest  
first, and reports the internal and external network IP address of  
your device, (3) "results", which lets you review your history of  
network speed test performance results for download and upload speed,  
both in summary list format and in detailed record, and (4) "about" in  
the bottom right corner, which was the only inaccessible item, and  
apparently had a graphics logo about the company.


The way the old version works, is that after double tapping the  
"Speedtest, start test, button", there would be a short pause as the  
app performs a trial download and upload. If you flick right while  
this is going on, you get a status message "download test in progress"  
or "upload test in progress" just above the row of buttons at the  
bottom of the screen.  As each test is finished, you can read off the  
speed results at the top of the screen.  So assuming that I wait the 4  
or 5 seconds for each test to run, and then flick right from the top  
of my screen, I'll hear the server location (top right, below battery  
status), then the download speed (e.g., 9.78 Mbps ) at the top left,  
followed by the upload speed (e.g. 1.05 Mbps) at the top right,  
followed by the ping time (inverted with units of "ms" announced  
first, then the number) at the center of the screen,  followed by a  
"restart button" at the bottom, just above the 4 option buttons (where  
the "download test in progress" message shows up).  I do typically  
need to touch the top of the screen to get the download and upload  
speed stats to start reading while the test is going on (typically I  
just move my finger horizontally across the region of the screen below  
the server while I'm waiting for the download and upload tests to  
complete).  After the tests complete I can just flick  through or do a  
two-finger flick up or down "read all" to get the summary.  The  
"restart" button lets you rerun your tests.


The most complete information is in the "results" (third buttom from  
left on bottom of main screen), which gives the history of your  
results in list format with date/time stamp.  Double tapping any of  
the entries gives a "Details" screen which reads off full details.   
Entries have date and time, results fully identified with labels of  
download, upload and ping, information about your network and location  
-- whether you were using WiFi or 3G, which server you were using  
identified by geographical location, your external and internal IP  
address, and even the latitude and longitude.  If there are network  
performance issues that depend on using particular sites or servers,  
or unusually poor performance at certain times of the day, you can  
track these down in the historical records, and send them to your IP  
provider to help troubleshoot.


Anyway, this is the way that the Speedtest.net Mobile app worked with  
VoiceOver up to the version 2 release that just came out, and this  
post was originally drafted as an info post for the app.  Since the  
revision for upgrading the app for the iPhone Retina 4 display,  
everything just "boinks".  The screen comes up with a "Begin test"  
button, but nothing else gets announced. I can't be sure whether it's  
running any tests or not when I double tap. If I manage to find  
another active button like "results" and double tap, I can't read  
anything on these screens with VoiceOver.  It mostly behaves as though  
VoiceOver can't contact most of the information, regardless of where I  
touch or how I navigate.  Occasionally a piece of something may get  
announced almost at random, but generally you just don't hear anything.


The main page for the developers is :
http://www.speedtest.net/
But the site uses Flash to run the tests, and has access issues.   
They're also on Twitter as teamookla and maybe someone who is  
proficient at dinging developers on Twitter could give them a nudge   
and create a short link to this post.


The app is

Speedtest.net Mobile (free) by Ookla:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/speedtest-net-mobile/id300704847?mt=8

Low vision users m

Re: Apps going inaccessible with Retina 4 updates? -- Speedtest for network connections

2010-09-16 Thread Chris Blouch

 I used this one:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/speedtest/id286356274?mt=8

which seems fairly accessible. I'm guessing it's not as nice as the one 
you were using but it did give me stats on my wifi or 3g connection. Had 
the usual thing where row 1 was average and max and then row two under 
neath was the values.


CB

On 9/16/10 3:52 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi,

I was about to post about an accessible app for testing your network 
connection upload and download speeds, but noticed that a new version 
was just released and, guess what, the app is suddenly inaccessible.  
This is a free app called Speedtest.net Mobile by Ookla.


The way the app used to work (and still does on my iPod Touch and 
iPad, which run the older version) is that you open the app and hear 
VoiceOver say, "Speedtest, start test, button", with focus on a button 
near the top center of the screen.  Flicking right would take you to 4 
buttons at the bottom of the page: (1) "selected, Speedtest" (the main 
screen, automatically selected when you enter the app) at the bottom 
left, (2) "settings", which allows you to manually change your nearest 
server,  choose the units of upload and download speed, specify 
whether your history should be sorted most recent date first or oldest 
first, and reports the internal and external network IP address of 
your device, (3) "results", which lets you review your history of 
network speed test performance results for download and upload speed, 
both in summary list format and in detailed record, and (4) "about" in 
the bottom right corner, which was the only inaccessible item, and 
apparently had a graphics logo about the company.


The way the old version works, is that after double tapping the 
"Speedtest, start test, button", there would be a short pause as the 
app performs a trial download and upload. If you flick right while 
this is going on, you get a status message "download test in progress" 
or "upload test in progress" just above the row of buttons at the 
bottom of the screen.  As each test is finished, you can read off the 
speed results at the top of the screen.  So assuming that I wait the 4 
or 5 seconds for each test to run, and then flick right from the top 
of my screen, I'll hear the server location (top right, below battery 
status), then the download speed (e.g., 9.78 Mbps ) at the top left, 
followed by the upload speed (e.g. 1.05 Mbps) at the top right, 
followed by the ping time (inverted with units of "ms" announced 
first, then the number) at the center of the screen,  followed by a 
"restart button" at the bottom, just above the 4 option buttons (where 
the "download test in progress" message shows up).  I do typically 
need to touch the top of the screen to get the download and upload 
speed stats to start reading while the test is going on (typically I 
just move my finger horizontally across the region of the screen below 
the server while I'm waiting for the download and upload tests to 
complete).  After the tests complete I can just flick  through or do a 
two-finger flick up or down "read all" to get the summary.  The 
"restart" button lets you rerun your tests.


The most complete information is in the "results" (third buttom from 
left on bottom of main screen), which gives the history of your 
results in list format with date/time stamp.  Double tapping any of 
the entries gives a "Details" screen which reads off full details.  
Entries have date and time, results fully identified with labels of 
download, upload and ping, information about your network and location 
-- whether you were using WiFi or 3G, which server you were using 
identified by geographical location, your external and internal IP 
address, and even the latitude and longitude.  If there are network 
performance issues that depend on using particular sites or servers, 
or unusually poor performance at certain times of the day, you can 
track these down in the historical records, and send them to your IP 
provider to help troubleshoot.


Anyway, this is the way that the Speedtest.net Mobile app worked with 
VoiceOver up to the version 2 release that just came out, and this 
post was originally drafted as an info post for the app.  Since the 
revision for upgrading the app for the iPhone Retina 4 display, 
everything just "boinks".  The screen comes up with a "Begin test" 
button, but nothing else gets announced. I can't be sure whether it's 
running any tests or not when I double tap. If I manage to find 
another active button like "results" and double tap, I can't read 
anything on these screens with VoiceOver.  It mostly behaves as though 
VoiceOver can't contact most of the information, regardless of where I 
touch or how I navigate.  Occasionally a piece of something may get 
announced almost at random, but generally you just don't hear anything.


The main page for the developers is :
http://www.speedtest.net/
But the site uses Flash to run the tests, and has access issues.  
They're also on

Re: Win XP PRO with Vmware Fusion

2010-09-16 Thread Chris Blouch
 Isn't Remote Desktop a Microsoft product? If so, I think that just 
shares the screen, mouse and keyboard over a network. If that's all it 
is, why not go with VNC? I just port map from my external IP address on 
some random port to the VNC port on the in-house machine.


CB

On 9/16/10 3:34 PM, Mike wrote:

Hi List:

I haven't posted for quite a while but now I'm stuck.
I'm running win xp pro on my mac with Vmware Fusion as an experiment
for my Ham radio project.
I've got remote desktop setup but I can't connect to it with my
netbook from behind my router.
I can connect to the netbook fine from the xp pro vertual machine and
when I switch back to Mac OS10.6, both machines can reach each other
fine.
I have logged in to my wireless router and set up the port for remote
desktop but I don't think that will do much good as this will only
allow from outside, not from behind the router. Anyway it didn't
work.
I've also got my user and password setup on the xp pro vertual
machine, as admin.
Any suggestions?

TNX all:

Michael



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Re: Win XP PRO with Vmware Fusion

2010-09-16 Thread Garry Turkington
Hi,

If I understand you correctly you are trying to remote desktop into
the XP VM?  If so then you'll also have to make sure that both XP and
the Mac are configured to allow connections on the right ports.  In
addition check the network config on the VM, I think the default is
NAT and you probably want bridged networking for this unless you want
the joy of address and/or port mapping on both ends of the connection.

If possible also try setting things up while everything is on the same
network segment before introducing the router, fix one variable at a
time.

Garry

On 9/16/10, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>   Isn't Remote Desktop a Microsoft product? If so, I think that just
> shares the screen, mouse and keyboard over a network. If that's all it
> is, why not go with VNC? I just port map from my external IP address on
> some random port to the VNC port on the in-house machine.
>
> CB
>
> On 9/16/10 3:34 PM, Mike wrote:
>> Hi List:
>>
>> I haven't posted for quite a while but now I'm stuck.
>> I'm running win xp pro on my mac with Vmware Fusion as an experiment
>> for my Ham radio project.
>> I've got remote desktop setup but I can't connect to it with my
>> netbook from behind my router.
>> I can connect to the netbook fine from the xp pro vertual machine and
>> when I switch back to Mac OS10.6, both machines can reach each other
>> fine.
>> I have logged in to my wireless router and set up the port for remote
>> desktop but I don't think that will do much good as this will only
>> allow from outside, not from behind the router. Anyway it didn't
>> work.
>> I've also got my user and password setup on the xp pro vertual
>> machine, as admin.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> TNX all:
>>
>> Michael
>>
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protools question

2010-09-16 Thread joseph
hello listers

which accessible version of protools can i use with my allises usb
mixer and emu usb midi controler?

best

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Re: Apps going inaccessible with Retina 4 updates? -- Speedtest for network connections

2010-09-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
Around here, I use http://speedtest.net and as soon as you connect to the 
page you read down and search for MB and that'll be the first line of your 
report.On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Chris Blouch wrote:



 I used this one:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/speedtest/id286356274?mt=8

which seems fairly accessible. I'm guessing it's not as nice as the one you 
were using but it did give me stats on my wifi or 3g connection. Had the 
usual thing where row 1 was average and max and then row two under neath was 
the values.


CB

On 9/16/10 3:52 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi,

 I was about to post about an accessible app for testing your network
 connection upload and download speeds, but noticed that a new version was
 just released and, guess what, the app is suddenly inaccessible.  This is
 a free app called Speedtest.net Mobile by Ookla.

 The way the app used to work (and still does on my iPod Touch and iPad,
 which run the older version) is that you open the app and hear VoiceOver
 say, "Speedtest, start test, button", with focus on a button near the top
 center of the screen.  Flicking right would take you to 4 buttons at the
 bottom of the page: (1) "selected, Speedtest" (the main screen,
 automatically selected when you enter the app) at the bottom left, (2)
 "settings", which allows you to manually change your nearest server,
 choose the units of upload and download speed, specify whether your
 history should be sorted most recent date first or oldest first, and
 reports the internal and external network IP address of your device, (3)
 "results", which lets you review your history of network speed test
 performance results for download and upload speed, both in summary list
 format and in detailed record, and (4) "about" in the bottom right corner,
 which was the only inaccessible item, and apparently had a graphics logo
 about the company.

 The way the old version works, is that after double tapping the
 "Speedtest, start test, button", there would be a short pause as the app
 performs a trial download and upload. If you flick right while this is
 going on, you get a status message "download test in progress" or "upload
 test in progress" just above the row of buttons at the bottom of the
 screen.  As each test is finished, you can read off the speed results at
 the top of the screen.  So assuming that I wait the 4 or 5 seconds for
 each test to run, and then flick right from the top of my screen, I'll
 hear the server location (top right, below battery status), then the
 download speed (e.g., 9.78 Mbps ) at the top left, followed by the upload
 speed (e.g. 1.05 Mbps) at the top right, followed by the ping time
 (inverted with units of "ms" announced first, then the number) at the
 center of the screen,  followed by a "restart button" at the bottom, just
 above the 4 option buttons (where the "download test in progress" message
 shows up).  I do typically need to touch the top of the screen to get the
 download and upload speed stats to start reading while the test is going
 on (typically I just move my finger horizontally across the region of the
 screen below the server while I'm waiting for the download and upload
 tests to complete).  After the tests complete I can just flick  through or
 do a two-finger flick up or down "read all" to get the summary.  The
 "restart" button lets you rerun your tests.

 The most complete information is in the "results" (third buttom from left
 on bottom of main screen), which gives the history of your results in list
 format with date/time stamp.  Double tapping any of the entries gives a
 "Details" screen which reads off full details.  Entries have date and
 time, results fully identified with labels of download, upload and ping,
 information about your network and location -- whether you were using
 WiFi or 3G, which server you were using identified by geographical
 location, your external and internal IP address, and even the latitude and
 longitude.  If there are network performance issues that depend on using
 particular sites or servers, or unusually poor performance at certain
 times of the day, you can track these down in the historical records, and
 send them to your IP provider to help troubleshoot.

 Anyway, this is the way that the Speedtest.net Mobile app worked with
 VoiceOver up to the version 2 release that just came out, and this post
 was originally drafted as an info post for the app.  Since the revision
 for upgrading the app for the iPhone Retina 4 display, everything just
 "boinks".  The screen comes up with a "Begin test" button, but nothing
 else gets announced. I can't be sure whether it's running any tests or not
 when I double tap. If I manage to find another active button like
 "results" and double tap, I can't read anything on these screens with
 VoiceOver.  It mostly behaves as though VoiceOver can't contact most of
 the information, regardless of where I touch or how I navigate.
 Occasionally a piece of something may get announced almost at ra

RE: protools question

2010-09-16 Thread Cameron
Hi.  no version will work with that hardware, sorry.

You need approved m audio hardware, avid hardware, or, a mackie mixer with
the digi card installed.

Cameron.




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hello listers

which accessible version of protools can i use with my allises usb
mixer and emu usb midi controler?

best

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playing videos in facebook

2010-09-16 Thread Laura Bratton
Hi All,
how do I play a video that is on Facebook? SOmeone had shared a video with me 
and I was trying to play it but could not figure out how  to do that. Any help 
would be great!
thanks,
Laura 

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Re: playing videos in facebook

2010-09-16 Thread Ian McNamara
yes i would like to know this to as friends of mine send me vidios of there 
singing. 

Ian McNamara 

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re_remote desktop and win xp pro vm

2010-09-16 Thread Mike
Hi Garry:

Yes, I want to use my netbook, which runs window eyes and remote into
my win xp pro vm. I just tried opening a port on my Mac firewall but
it wouldn't allow me to add my vm to except a connection.
I don't think I need to do anything with the router because like I
said in my previous post, my mac and netbook can see each other and
share files fine.
So perhaps you can email me off list, vo1...@gmail.com with the
nessessary steps?
Window eyes has screen reader support for remote desktop which is why
I want to use it. VNC doesn't.

Thanks:

Michael

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Re: How to get rid of the preview pain in mail

2010-09-16 Thread Darcy Burnard
Hi Corey.  What you need to do is find the preview pane with VoiceOver, and 
then VO left from it.  You'll be on a splitter.  Press VO command f5 to route 
your mouse to the splitter.  Then double click.  If memory serves you need to 
use the actual mouse button here, rather then use the VO mouse click command.
HTH
Darcy

On 2010-09-16, at 1:07 PM, Corey Knapp wrote:

> Hi Listers,
> I was wondering how to get rid of the preview pain in mail thanks for your
> time.
> Corey 
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