date:20120202

If I can manage to get an adapter (I have one, but it doesn't seem to
fit the dvi to hdmi adapter that came with the mac) I will try it
first. I would love to get ahold of a cheap, small hdmi monitor, but I
don't have $100 to spend on something I will almost never even turn
on. Alright, list, hold me to this: don't let me complain about the
mac again until I at least have a functioning monitor connected. I'm
going to try to find a proper adapter ($10 is better than $100) as
well as do what some people talked about a while back and look on
public trade/selling sites like craigslist.com.

On 2/2/12, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> Memory dump is when the Mac is purged of fragments of memory that may not
> have been properly  cleared when the unit was turned off.
>
> Remember, command+Option+r+p at power off and when you have those keys
> pressed down, turn on the power.  All  your settings and stuff will be
> preserved.
>
> Also, Alex, to speak frankly, You cannot let the negative experiences of
> some make you believe that your unit is at fault.  Sounds to me like maybe
> you need a monitor hooked up to your machine.  I seem to recall someone
> giving you that advice at least a month ago.  Here's what I say.  You don't
> necessarily need a real expensive monitor.  By the cheapest monitor you like
> and connect it.  Frankly, I wouldn't count on using VGA adapters to get an
> old monitor going.  I'd go for a cheap new one and connect it.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> I have had it for months, but the unresponsiveness in pretty much
>> everything and the difficulty in editing text means I don't use it
>> much. I know part of it is a monitor, and I am looking at dvi to vga
>> adapters to get this old monitor working, but when I hear on this list
>> about others experiencing lag ever since upgrading to lion, I have to
>> wonder just how much it will help to have a screen.
>>
>> What is a memory dump? Will it affect my bootcamp or any settings on the
>> mac?
>>
>> On 2/2/12, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> To copy a file, do this.
>>>
>>> 1.  Focus on the file you wish to copy.
>>>
>>> 2.  Press command+c to copy.
>>>
>>> 3.  Move to the location to which you wish to copy the file.
>>>
>>> 4.  Now, press command+v to paste in the file.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
>>> PS.  Hey, look, just give yourself time to learn this.  None of us
>>> learned
>>> it imediately either.  For me, it took maybe two or three weeks to get
>>> really going with mine.
>>>
>>> This list was a huge help to me during that time I can tell you.
>>>
>>> Just hang in there.  Look, one more thing man.  Don't get all flustered
>>> if
>>> things don't go exactly like you want them to right away.  remember, the
>>> Mac
>>> aint windows.  Don't expect the same behavior.  As for things being slow,
>>> sounds like it might be time to  do a memory dump;  command+Option+p once
>>> the power is off and hold those down until you hear the third ocurrence
>>> of
>>> the start up sound.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>
 I think what you say makes sense. Unfortunately, Finder has such a lag
 in it, especially on 10.7.3, that copying a file (assuming I can
 figure out how) will likely be an exercise in patience rather than a
 simple task. Thanks for the help, and sorry for my negative tone, it
 is just rather annoying to have what seems to be such inconsistent
 behavior, along with serious lag problems in what is, when running
 Windows, a faster system than my previous computer.

 On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> Hi, Alex,
>
> There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc
> image,
> you will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app
> file.
>
> Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It
> is
> mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have
> installed anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and
> find
> out whether you have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an
> installer package, the process is similar to opening a Windows .exe
> file.
> If
> it's a .app file, you will want to copy the .app over to your apps
> folder,
> so you can find it in the future. You can run a .app from your disc
> image,
> but that makes things very cluttered and hard to find.
>
> HTh,
> Teresa
>
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> I think it does have one, but canno

Re: Mail issues.

2012-02-02 Thread arthur gindin

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the new email account,  your messages are still available by going to 
the site of the domain name servicer and accessing them directly.  the 
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register similar names to prevent others from trying to steal your 
customers.


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I've just tried for the um-teenth time, to set up my gmail acount on 
my macbook pro, and it's now wanted to tell me, "no mailbox selected," 
whenever I open it.
  I'm only going to guess it's connected, sense the option to take 
acounts on line is dimmed, so I don't understand why it would be 
telling me this, however it refuses to download my mail no matter how 
many times I've removed and re-set up the sount, and this is really 
getting on my last nerve.
  I really don't want to switch providers, because everyone I know 
knows this address, and has for years, and sense I've had several 
providers that I've been dissatisfied with and have no reason to 
change aside from the mac doesn't completely seem to get along with 
it, than I don't see any other reason to leave them.
  If there's some sort of a work-around, or if there could've been 
something I may have missed, could someone please share that?
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Jessica

You just go to the menu's, then arrow down through the first one until you hear 
"software update, then I think either press return, or command+O to open it.
  I unfortunately haven't done an update in a while, so don't remember right 
off which keystroke does it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jennifer Perdue 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: 10.7.3 is out!

  Where is software update, in the apple menu?  Still quite new to the Mac.  

  Thanks.

  Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks

  On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

Hi,
Software update, and then it will find it.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2012-02-02, at 9:16 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

  How do you get it?  Do you just go to the app store?

  Thanks for your patience in answering my questions.

  Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
  On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with

fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting

windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start

with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.

On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:

  Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade 
one that

  is above Lion?

  Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks

  On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

Hi all.

Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is 
finally

out.

VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.

Check you're software update and it should appear.

HTH.

Matthew Campbell.

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Re: memory dump (was confused about installing applications)

Memory dump is when the Mac is purged of fragments of memory that may not have 
been properly  cleared when the unit was turned off.

Remember, command+Option+r+p at power off and when you have those keys pressed 
down, turn on the power.  All  your settings and stuff will be preserved.

Also, Alex, to speak frankly, You cannot let the negative experiences of some 
make you believe that your unit is at fault.  Sounds to me like maybe you need 
a monitor hooked up to your machine.  I seem to recall someone giving you that 
advice at least a month ago.  Here's what I say.  You don't necessarily need a 
real expensive monitor.  By the cheapest monitor you like and connect it.  
Frankly, I wouldn't count on using VGA adapters to get an old monitor going.  
I'd go for a cheap new one and connect it.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1

On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I have had it for months, but the unresponsiveness in pretty much
> everything and the difficulty in editing text means I don't use it
> much. I know part of it is a monitor, and I am looking at dvi to vga
> adapters to get this old monitor working, but when I hear on this list
> about others experiencing lag ever since upgrading to lion, I have to
> wonder just how much it will help to have a screen.
> 
> What is a memory dump? Will it affect my bootcamp or any settings on the mac?
> 
> On 2/2/12, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> To copy a file, do this.
>> 
>> 1.  Focus on the file you wish to copy.
>> 
>> 2.  Press command+c to copy.
>> 
>> 3.  Move to the location to which you wish to copy the file.
>> 
>> 4.  Now, press command+v to paste in the file.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> PS.  Hey, look, just give yourself time to learn this.  None of us learned
>> it imediately either.  For me, it took maybe two or three weeks to get
>> really going with mine.
>> 
>> This list was a huge help to me during that time I can tell you.
>> 
>> Just hang in there.  Look, one more thing man.  Don't get all flustered if
>> things don't go exactly like you want them to right away.  remember, the Mac
>> aint windows.  Don't expect the same behavior.  As for things being slow,
>> sounds like it might be time to  do a memory dump;  command+Option+p once
>> the power is off and hold those down until you hear the third ocurrence of
>> the start up sound.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> I think what you say makes sense. Unfortunately, Finder has such a lag
>>> in it, especially on 10.7.3, that copying a file (assuming I can
>>> figure out how) will likely be an exercise in patience rather than a
>>> simple task. Thanks for the help, and sorry for my negative tone, it
>>> is just rather annoying to have what seems to be such inconsistent
>>> behavior, along with serious lag problems in what is, when running
>>> Windows, a faster system than my previous computer.
>>> 
>>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 Hi, Alex,

 There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc image,
 you will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app file.

 Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It is
 mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have
 installed anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and find
 out whether you have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an
 installer package, the process is similar to opening a Windows .exe file.
 If
 it's a .app file, you will want to copy the .app over to your apps
 folder,
 so you can find it in the future. You can run a .app from your disc
 image,
 but that makes things very cluttered and hard to find.

 HTh,
 Teresa

 "Slow down; you'll get there faster."

 On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
> they were installed from dmg files?
> 
> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> Hi, Alex,
>> 
>> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't
>> have
>> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy
>> it
>> over to your apps directory.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
>>>

memory dump (was confused about installing applications)

I have had it for months, but the unresponsiveness in pretty much
everything and the difficulty in editing text means I don't use it
much. I know part of it is a monitor, and I am looking at dvi to vga
adapters to get this old monitor working, but when I hear on this list
about others experiencing lag ever since upgrading to lion, I have to
wonder just how much it will help to have a screen.

What is a memory dump? Will it affect my bootcamp or any settings on the mac?

On 2/2/12, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> To copy a file, do this.
>
> 1.  Focus on the file you wish to copy.
>
> 2.  Press command+c to copy.
>
> 3.  Move to the location to which you wish to copy the file.
>
> 4.  Now, press command+v to paste in the file.
>
> HTH.
>
> PS.  Hey, look, just give yourself time to learn this.  None of us learned
> it imediately either.  For me, it took maybe two or three weeks to get
> really going with mine.
>
> This list was a huge help to me during that time I can tell you.
>
> Just hang in there.  Look, one more thing man.  Don't get all flustered if
> things don't go exactly like you want them to right away.  remember, the Mac
> aint windows.  Don't expect the same behavior.  As for things being slow,
> sounds like it might be time to  do a memory dump;  command+Option+p once
> the power is off and hold those down until you hear the third ocurrence of
> the start up sound.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> I think what you say makes sense. Unfortunately, Finder has such a lag
>> in it, especially on 10.7.3, that copying a file (assuming I can
>> figure out how) will likely be an exercise in patience rather than a
>> simple task. Thanks for the help, and sorry for my negative tone, it
>> is just rather annoying to have what seems to be such inconsistent
>> behavior, along with serious lag problems in what is, when running
>> Windows, a faster system than my previous computer.
>>
>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> Hi, Alex,
>>>
>>> There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc image,
>>> you will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app file.
>>>
>>> Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It is
>>> mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have
>>> installed anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and find
>>> out whether you have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an
>>> installer package, the process is similar to opening a Windows .exe file.
>>> If
>>> it's a .app file, you will want to copy the .app over to your apps
>>> folder,
>>> so you can find it in the future. You can run a .app from your disc
>>> image,
>>> but that makes things very cluttered and hard to find.
>>>
>>> HTh,
>>> Teresa
>>>
>>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>
 I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
 find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
 do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
 they were installed from dmg files?

 On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> Hi, Alex,
>
> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't
> have
> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy
> it
> over to your apps directory.
>
> HTH,
> Teresa
>
> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
>> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
>> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
>> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
>> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
>> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
>> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
>> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
>> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
>> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
>>
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>>
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Re: very confused about installing applications

To copy a file, do this.

1.  Focus on the file you wish to copy.

2.  Press command+c to copy.

3.  Move to the location to which you wish to copy the file.

4.  Now, press command+v to paste in the file.

HTH.

PS.  Hey, look, just give yourself time to learn this.  None of us learned it 
imediately either.  For me, it took maybe two or three weeks to get really 
going with mine.  

This list was a huge help to me during that time I can tell you.

Just hang in there.  Look, one more thing man.  Don't get all flustered if 
things don't go exactly like you want them to right away.  remember, the Mac 
aint windows.  Don't expect the same behavior.  As for things being slow, 
sounds like it might be time to  do a memory dump;  command+Option+p once the 
power is off and hold those down until you hear the third ocurrence of the 
start up sound.  


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I think what you say makes sense. Unfortunately, Finder has such a lag
> in it, especially on 10.7.3, that copying a file (assuming I can
> figure out how) will likely be an exercise in patience rather than a
> simple task. Thanks for the help, and sorry for my negative tone, it
> is just rather annoying to have what seems to be such inconsistent
> behavior, along with serious lag problems in what is, when running
> Windows, a faster system than my previous computer.
> 
> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> Hi, Alex,
>> 
>> There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc image,
>> you will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app file.
>> 
>> Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It is
>> mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have
>> installed anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and find
>> out whether you have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an
>> installer package, the process is similar to opening a Windows .exe file. If
>> it's a .app file, you will want to copy the .app over to your apps folder,
>> so you can find it in the future. You can run a .app from your disc image,
>> but that makes things very cluttered and hard to find.
>> 
>> HTh,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
>>> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
>>> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
>>> they were installed from dmg files?
>>> 
>>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 Hi, Alex,
 
 I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't
 have
 an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy
 it
 over to your apps directory.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 
 "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
 
 On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
> 
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
> 
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Re: very confused about installing applications

I think what you say makes sense. Unfortunately, Finder has such a lag
in it, especially on 10.7.3, that copying a file (assuming I can
figure out how) will likely be an exercise in patience rather than a
simple task. Thanks for the help, and sorry for my negative tone, it
is just rather annoying to have what seems to be such inconsistent
behavior, along with serious lag problems in what is, when running
Windows, a faster system than my previous computer.

On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> Hi, Alex,
>
> There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc image,
> you will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app file.
>
> Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It is
> mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have
> installed anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and find
> out whether you have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an
> installer package, the process is similar to opening a Windows .exe file. If
> it's a .app file, you will want to copy the .app over to your apps folder,
> so you can find it in the future. You can run a .app from your disc image,
> but that makes things very cluttered and hard to find.
>
> HTh,
> Teresa
>
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
>> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
>> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
>> they were installed from dmg files?
>>
>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> Hi, Alex,
>>>
>>> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't
>>> have
>>> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy
>>> it
>>> over to your apps directory.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>>
>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
 times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
 have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
 spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
 Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
 installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
 constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
 me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
 worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
 safari, and maybe try using the mac more...

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think braille display is better behaving

2012-02-02 Thread Eugenia Firth

I'm not sure yet, but it looks like my braille display is behaving better after 
the new update. I was having a fair amount of problem with not all of my 
keystrokes going through. It's like they were out of sync or something. Now it 
looks better. Of course, it could be this old proofreader can not write braille 
these days, but who knows. 

Regards, 
Gigi 


On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Working fine for me as well, you might try repairing your disk permissions.
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:03 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> From my perspective, all working well here.  VO seems a tad more responsive. 
>>  ITunes definently so.  No crashes as yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:00 AM, William Windels wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I had a very bad experience with 10.7.3:
>>> mostly all programs are crashing including mail, skype, yurufukurow, and 
>>> about mail , I wasn't able to start it.
>>> (this are programs that are starting by default).
>>> Also, osx seems to relogin by default when I try to start one of the 
>>> programs abouve: the usbscanner is making noice, I hear the welcome message 
>>> of voiceover. and the programs are starting again.
>>> 
>>> After this discovery, I have done a disk and permission repair from in the 
>>> recovery menu of Lion but this seems not to solve the problem.
>>> Finally, I am setting back my last time-machine backup... :(
>>> 
>>> About my configuration:
>>> I have a macbook from 2009: the one where sl was installed by default. 
>>> There is 4 gb of ram and a default hd from 250 GB.
>>> 
>>> Are there some other people with equal problems?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> William Windels
>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>> 
>>> Op 2-feb.-2012 om 03:32 heeft Alex Hall  het volgende 
>>> geschreven:
>>> 
 No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
 fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
 windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
 with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
 
 On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
> that
> is above Lion?
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
>> out.
>> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
>> Check you're software update and it should appear.
>> HTH.
>> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: VO or Chormevox with Google Chrome?

2012-02-02 Thread Mike Arrigo

Generally, I use chromevox. At this point, voiceover is unable to see list 
boxes on web pages. Also, there are times where voiceover is no longer able to 
click on items on the page. On the other hand, chromevox is more likely to 
crash, fortunately you can have both and use what works best for you.
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> Hi, all,
> 
> Well, I'm starting to wonder of Chromevox has advantages over VO in Google 
> Chrome. I think there are pluses and minuses in both cases. For instance, 
> Chromevox doesn't seem to have keystrokes for going into the browser 
> preferences and navigating anything other than the content of a webpage. It's 
> an interesting project, though, and a promising start on a screen-reader to 
> go along with the Chrome OS.
> 
> Teresa
> "On the other hand, there are different fingers."
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Re: very bad impression about 10.7.3 was Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Mike Arrigo

Working fine for me as well, you might try repairing your disk permissions.
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:03 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> From my perspective, all working well here.  VO seems a tad more responsive.  
> ITunes definently so.  No crashes as yet.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:00 AM, William Windels wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I had a very bad experience with 10.7.3:
>> mostly all programs are crashing including mail, skype, yurufukurow, and 
>> about mail , I wasn't able to start it.
>> (this are programs that are starting by default).
>> Also, osx seems to relogin by default when I try to start one of the 
>> programs abouve: the usbscanner is making noice, I hear the welcome message 
>> of voiceover. and the programs are starting again.
>> 
>> After this discovery, I have done a disk and permission repair from in the 
>> recovery menu of Lion but this seems not to solve the problem.
>> Finally, I am setting back my last time-machine backup... :(
>> 
>> About my configuration:
>> I have a macbook from 2009: the one where sl was installed by default. There 
>> is 4 gb of ram and a default hd from 250 GB.
>> 
>> Are there some other people with equal problems?
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> William Windels
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op 2-feb.-2012 om 03:32 heeft Alex Hall  het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
 Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
 that
 is above Lion?
 
 Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
 On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
> out.
> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
> Check you're software update and it should appear.
> HTH.
> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: very confused about installing applications

Hi, Alex,

There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc image, you 
will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app file.

Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It is 
mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have installed 
anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and find out whether you 
have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an installer package, the 
process is similar to opening a Windows .exe file. If it's a .app file, you 
will want to copy the .app over to your apps folder, so you can find it in the 
future. You can run a .app from your disc image, but that makes things very 
cluttered and hard to find.

HTh,
Teresa

"Slow down; you'll get there faster."

On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
> they were installed from dmg files?
> 
> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> Hi, Alex,
>> 
>> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't have
>> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy it
>> over to your apps directory.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
>>> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
>>> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
>>> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
>>> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
>>> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
>>> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
>>> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
>>> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
>>> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
>>> 
>>> --
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Re: very confused about installing applications

You don't have to mess with those files. In every disc image, there is a file 
(or folder, actually) with a .app extension. That folder needs no 
uncompressing. You just copy it over to your apps folder and then use it. If 
you open a disc image and it says there's an installer package in the list of 
files, then you use that file to install using prompts. Most of the time, 
however, it will be a .app extension, which is ready to use.

HTH,
Teresa

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> They are pkg files, at least I believe they are. So I have to copy
> files, not install? I am trying to not get frustrated even more with
> the mac, but why package things up in a compressed format which
> uncompresses (though getting it to do so is a guessing game) to some
> files, then offer a pkg file inside that that, apparently, doesn't
> work at all? I think I'm missing a lot about mac os...
> 
> On 2/2/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> Hang on! WHen you say you are installing an app, how exactly are you doing
>> this?
>> Are you opening the DMG file and just running the app or are you copying the
>> app from within the DMG to your applications folder.
>> Understand that when you download an app, you will be receiving it as a zip,
>> DMG, or some other archived file format.
>> Generally the app is contained in the archive and you only have to copy it
>> into the APplications folder. However, some apps come as a PKG or MPKG file
>> which you must run. THis is a package installer that installs the app and
>> such into the appropriate location.
>> If you are running the apps from within the archive and the disc images are
>> mounted to your desktop, when you reboot they disappear.
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
>>> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
>>> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
>>> they were installed from dmg files?
>>> 
>>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 Hi, Alex,
 
 I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't
 have
 an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy
 it
 over to your apps directory.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 
 "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
 
 On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
> 
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Re: very confused about installing applications

They are pkg files, at least I believe they are. So I have to copy
files, not install? I am trying to not get frustrated even more with
the mac, but why package things up in a compressed format which
uncompresses (though getting it to do so is a guessing game) to some
files, then offer a pkg file inside that that, apparently, doesn't
work at all? I think I'm missing a lot about mac os...

On 2/2/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
> Hang on! WHen you say you are installing an app, how exactly are you doing
> this?
> Are you opening the DMG file and just running the app or are you copying the
> app from within the DMG to your applications folder.
> Understand that when you download an app, you will be receiving it as a zip,
> DMG, or some other archived file format.
> Generally the app is contained in the archive and you only have to copy it
> into the APplications folder. However, some apps come as a PKG or MPKG file
> which you must run. THis is a package installer that installs the app and
> such into the appropriate location.
> If you are running the apps from within the archive and the disc images are
> mounted to your desktop, when you reboot they disappear.
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
>> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
>> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
>> they were installed from dmg files?
>>
>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> Hi, Alex,
>>>
>>> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't
>>> have
>>> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy
>>> it
>>> over to your apps directory.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>>
>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
 times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
 have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
 spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
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 constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
 me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
 worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
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Re: very confused about installing applications

2012-02-02 Thread Scott Howell

Hang on! WHen you say you are installing an app, how exactly are you doing this?
Are you opening the DMG file and just running the app or are you copying the 
app from within the DMG to your applications folder.
Understand that when you download an app, you will be receiving it as a zip, 
DMG, or some other archived file format.
Generally the app is contained in the archive and you only have to copy it into 
the APplications folder. However, some apps come as a PKG or MPKG file which 
you must run. THis is a package installer that installs the app and such into 
the appropriate location.
If you are running the apps from within the archive and the disc images are 
mounted to your desktop, when you reboot they disappear.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
> they were installed from dmg files?
> 
> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> Hi, Alex,
>> 
>> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't have
>> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy it
>> over to your apps directory.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
>>> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
>>> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
>>> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
>>> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
>>> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
>>> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
>>> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
>>> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
>>> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
>>> 
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Re: lost contacts

2012-02-02 Thread Mr. L. Alexander

Hi wayne, I'm happy to help. firstly mount your iphone to itunes as normal, you 
then navigate to your iphone and then go to the info tab. it's a good idea to 
check if your contacts from your address book are being synced. if not, check 
the box for "Sync address book contacts" then go to "apply" then sync. if this 
doesn't work then go to your address book, check to see if you have all your 
contacts stored there and then go back to itunes.

if there's a problem. go down to the advanced part of the info tab and check 
addres book. then apply and then sync.

this should solve it

Please don't take this thread over as my query may not be answered. instead, 
please repost this query if you are unhappy to the macvisionaries email.address 
with a new subject header.

thanks in advance.

lewis

On 2 Feb 2012, at 21:19, Wayne Coles wrote:

> hi list can somebody please help me only my iPhone has no contacts so how do 
> i get my contacts back and has far as i know nothing as changed so again 
> please help as i am in the use and need my contacts to ring home in the uk 
> thanks in advance waynec 
> On 2   Feb 2012, at 21:00, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> just a quick enquiry. does anyone here know if the latest version of MSN 
>> messenger for mac is voiceover supported or accessible to a degree? I ask as 
>> I'm not a real fan of adium and looking for a cross platform communications 
>> client between windows and mac where I need to bounce messages between 
>> myself and clients / assistants, etc.
>> 
>> any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> also on a side note and though not part of the listing method, is there 
>> anyone here who has used jaws and has a copy they no longer use?
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> Founder: Mr. L. Alexander.
>> Free Macs For The Blind.
>> E-Mail: freemacsforthebl...@mac-access.net
>> Direct Contact: 07936 877500.
>> WEBSITE: http://freemacsfortheblind.wordpress.com.
>> Twitter: @macsfortheblind.
>> Skype: freemacsfortheblind
>> 
>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working 
>> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!
>> 
>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
>> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
>> 
>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to 
>> help anybody disabled with anything Apple!
>> http://www.mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
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lost contacts

2012-02-02 Thread Wayne Coles

hi list can somebody please help me only my iPhone has no contacts so how do i 
get my contacts back and has far as i know nothing as changed so again please 
help as i am in the use and need my contacts to ring home in the uk thanks in 
advance waynec   
On 2 Feb 2012, at 21:00, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

> Hi folks.
> 
> just a quick enquiry. does anyone here know if the latest version of MSN 
> messenger for mac is voiceover supported or accessible to a degree? I ask as 
> I'm not a real fan of adium and looking for a cross platform communications 
> client between windows and mac where I need to bounce messages between myself 
> and clients / assistants, etc.
> 
> any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> also on a side note and though not part of the listing method, is there 
> anyone here who has used jaws and has a copy they no longer use?
> 
> lew
> 
> Founder: Mr. L. Alexander.
> Free Macs For The Blind.
> E-Mail: freemacsforthebl...@mac-access.net
> Direct Contact: 07936 877500.
> WEBSITE: http://freemacsfortheblind.wordpress.com.
> Twitter: @macsfortheblind.
> Skype: freemacsfortheblind
> 
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> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!
> 
> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
> 
> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help 
> anybody disabled with anything Apple!
> http://www.mac-access.net
> 
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query regarding accessibility of MSN messenger for mac latest build

2012-02-02 Thread Mr. L. Alexander

Hi folks.

just a quick enquiry. does anyone here know if the latest version of MSN 
messenger for mac is voiceover supported or accessible to a degree? I ask as 
I'm not a real fan of adium and looking for a cross platform communications 
client between windows and mac where I need to bounce messages between myself 
and clients / assistants, etc.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

also on a side note and though not part of the listing method, is there anyone 
here who has used jaws and has a copy they no longer use?

lew

Founder: Mr. L. Alexander.
Free Macs For The Blind.
E-Mail: freemacsforthebl...@mac-access.net
Direct Contact: 07936 877500.
WEBSITE: http://freemacsfortheblind.wordpress.com.
Twitter: @macsfortheblind.
Skype: freemacsfortheblind

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macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!

Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.

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Re: very confused about installing applications

I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
they were installed from dmg files?

On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> Hi, Alex,
>
> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't have
> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy it
> over to your apps directory.
>
> HTH,
> Teresa
>
> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
>> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
>> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
>> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
>> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
>> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
>> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
>> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
>> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
>> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
>>
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Re: VO or Chormevox with Google Chrome?

2012-02-02 Thread Kirsten Edmondson

Hi, 
I did all that, but for some reason it launches and says one thing and then 
seems to crash. I'll give it a go and see if I can explain it better. I haven't 
done it for a couple of weeks so I'll give it another go. 

On 2 Feb 2012, at 19:14, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Chromevox is a browser extension. You will have to install Chrome 1.6, and 
> then go to the webstore and grab Chromevox. Once the extension is installed, 
> it should start speaking when you launch Chrome. I find that Chrome works 
> pretty well with VO, too, though.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote:
> 
>> Hi, 
>> I don't know if it's just me, but I keep finding that when I launch vox, 
>> Google Chrome crashes and I can't access anything. It puts me off using 
>> chrome, which I loved so much on a PC and I thought would be brilliant on 
>> the Mac. I can't wait for Firefox! 
>> I get Safari busy so often I just wanted to try Chrome but find it snaggy 
>> when I launch Vox. 
>> Am I doing something wrong? 
>> Kirsten. 
>> 
>> On 2 Feb 2012, at 16:09, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> Well, I'm starting to wonder of Chromevox has advantages over VO in Google 
>>> Chrome. I think there are pluses and minuses in both cases. For instance, 
>>> Chromevox doesn't seem to have keystrokes for going into the browser 
>>> preferences and navigating anything other than the content of a webpage. 
>>> It's an interesting project, though, and a promising start on a 
>>> screen-reader to go along with the Chrome OS.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> "On the other hand, there are different fingers."
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Re: VO or Chormevox with Google Chrome?

Chromevox is a browser extension. You will have to install Chrome 1.6, and then 
go to the webstore and grab Chromevox. Once the extension is installed, it 
should start speaking when you launch Chrome. I find that Chrome works pretty 
well with VO, too, though.

Teresa

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote:

> Hi, 
> I don't know if it's just me, but I keep finding that when I launch vox, 
> Google Chrome crashes and I can't access anything. It puts me off using 
> chrome, which I loved so much on a PC and I thought would be brilliant on the 
> Mac. I can't wait for Firefox! 
> I get Safari busy so often I just wanted to try Chrome but find it snaggy 
> when I launch Vox. 
> Am I doing something wrong? 
> Kirsten. 
> 
> On 2 Feb 2012, at 16:09, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Well, I'm starting to wonder of Chromevox has advantages over VO in Google 
>> Chrome. I think there are pluses and minuses in both cases. For instance, 
>> Chromevox doesn't seem to have keystrokes for going into the browser 
>> preferences and navigating anything other than the content of a webpage. 
>> It's an interesting project, though, and a promising start on a 
>> screen-reader to go along with the Chrome OS.
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: very confused about installing applications

Hi, Alex,

I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't have an 
installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy it over to 
your apps directory.

HTH,
Teresa

"We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos

On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
> 
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Re: VO or Chormevox with Google Chrome?

2012-02-02 Thread Kirsten Edmondson

Hi, 
I don't know if it's just me, but I keep finding that when I launch vox, Google 
Chrome crashes and I can't access anything. It puts me off using chrome, which 
I loved so much on a PC and I thought would be brilliant on the Mac. I can't 
wait for Firefox! 
I get Safari busy so often I just wanted to try Chrome but find it snaggy when 
I launch Vox. 
Am I doing something wrong? 
Kirsten. 

On 2 Feb 2012, at 16:09, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> Well, I'm starting to wonder of Chromevox has advantages over VO in Google 
> Chrome. I think there are pluses and minuses in both cases. For instance, 
> Chromevox doesn't seem to have keystrokes for going into the browser 
> preferences and navigating anything other than the content of a webpage. It's 
> an interesting project, though, and a promising start on a screen-reader to 
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Re: On or off list help appreciated for keynote presentation with vo

2012-02-02 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Ioana,

The only resource I can think of about KeyNote is an episode of the VoiceOver 
on podcast in which I participated last year. It is episode 7 from February 
2011.

Apart from that, I don't really know how I can help you. It all depends on what 
you're trying to do. Are you using images, or just text? If it's just text, 
that podcast should help.

Cheers,

Anne

On 2 Feb 2012, at 19:09, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Hi Anne,
> THanks for getting back about the powerpoint. Is there any resource for 
> learning about what would be involved in presenting images to support my 
> conference or could you give any tips at all?
> 
> I have not purchased it yet but would like to know if it is worth it.
> 
> Any info about your or other peoples experiences with keynote would be very 
> welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
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could you please re-post or off list re-send article about installation problems with 10.7.3

2012-02-02 Thread Ioana Gandrabur

HI,

I accidentally deleted the message with that article about fixing potential 
problems with latest lion update. I even tried to fined it on web interface but 
no luck.

Anyone minds sending this to me on or off list?
DId not update yet but wanted to have that info just in case.

Thanks very much!

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On or off list help appreciated for keynote presentation with vo

2012-02-02 Thread Ioana Gandrabur

Hi Anne,
THanks for getting back about the powerpoint. Is there any resource for 
learning about what would be involved in presenting images to support my 
conference or could you give any tips at all?

I have not purchased it yet but would like to know if it is worth it.

Any info about your or other peoples experiences with keynote would be very 
welcome.

Thanks,

Ioana

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very confused about installing applications

Hi all,
I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
safari, and maybe try using the mac more...

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Re: Accessible Typing Software

2012-02-02 Thread Rodney

David,
Thanks for the response. This could be a possibility.
Take care.
-Rodney


David Griffith wrote:
> It is not really an answer but personally I found the Typing tutors 
> unsatisfactory . What I di eventually was purchase an audio typing course  
> from  the RNIB and made sure that my typing echo was set to letter and words. 
> This did the trick nicely for me and within a couple of weeks I was touch 
> typing happily. Basically I used earphones to listen to the audio tutorial 
> and headphones over these  to listen to the computer.  I then used to 
> practise by playing  some of my favourite  musicand trying to type out 
> the lyrics out whilst I listened. Of course I was not fast enough to get all  
> the lyrics but it was great way of practising.
>
> . .
> Of course this is all possible to do with a Mac as well as a Windows computer.
>
> David griffith
> On 31 Jan 2012, at 21:22, Rodney wrote:
>
> > Anyone know of software for the Mac that is of course VO friendly,
> > that will teach someone how to type.
> >
> > On the Window's side I always point people to Talking Typing Teacher.
> >
> > Anything like that for the Mac?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Rodney
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Re: VO or Chromevox with Google Chrome?

Sorry, guys, that misspell in the subject line was bugging me no end. :)

Teresa
"On the other hand, there are different fingers."

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> Hi, all,
> 
> Well, I'm starting to wonder of Chromevox has advantages over VO in Google 
> Chrome. I think there are pluses and minuses in both cases. For instance, 
> Chromevox doesn't seem to have keystrokes for going into the browser 
> preferences and navigating anything other than the content of a webpage. It's 
> an interesting project, though, and a promising start on a screen-reader to 
> go along with the Chrome OS.
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VO or Chormevox with Google Chrome?

Hi, all,

Well, I'm starting to wonder of Chromevox has advantages over VO in Google 
Chrome. I think there are pluses and minuses in both cases. For instance, 
Chromevox doesn't seem to have keystrokes for going into the browser 
preferences and navigating anything other than the content of a webpage. It's 
an interesting project, though, and a promising start on a screen-reader to go 
along with the Chrome OS.

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Re: FOcus 40 blue in the new 10.7.3 update.

2012-02-02 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen

 I am glad to know that it works for you. I have checked everything, i think 
that I will have to reinstall my mac in the future'

Thank you Teresa'

Best regards Annie.

Sendt fra min iPad

Den 02/02/2012 kl. 16.38 skrev Teresa Cochran :

> That's very odd. I updated, and I'm able to use it just fine. sorry; I have 
> no clue what could be the problem for you. Did you check whether your 
> Bluetooth is turned off?
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:03 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> Has anybody experienced problems with your focus 40 blue braille display in 
>> the new update to lion.
>> 
>> I can not connect my bluetooth display anymore. I have tried to remove it 
>> and add it again, but it looks as if the driver is missing.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
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Re: FOcus 40 blue in the new 10.7.3 update.

I updated and everything is working fine for me too.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
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> That's very odd. I updated, and I'm able to use it just fine. sorry; I have 
> no clue what could be the problem for you. Did you check whether your 
> Bluetooth is turned off?
> 
> Teresa
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> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:03 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> Has anybody experienced problems with your focus 40 blue braille display in 
>> the new update to lion.
>> 
>> I can not connect my bluetooth display anymore. I have tried to remove it 
>> and add it again, but it looks as if the driver is missing.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
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Re: very bad impression about 10.7.3 was Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Eugenia Firth

So far, so good. 

Gigi

On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:00 AM, William Windels wrote:

> Hello all,
> I had a very bad experience with 10.7.3:
> mostly all programs are crashing including mail, skype, yurufukurow, and 
> about mail , I wasn't able to start it.
> (this are programs that are starting by default).
> Also, osx seems to relogin by default when I try to start one of the programs 
> abouve: the usbscanner is making noice, I hear the welcome message of 
> voiceover. and the programs are starting again.
> 
> After this discovery, I have done a disk and permission repair from in the 
> recovery menu of Lion but this seems not to solve the problem.
> Finally, I am setting back my last time-machine backup... :(
> 
> About my configuration:
> I have a macbook from 2009: the one where sl was installed by default. There 
> is 4 gb of ram and a default hd from 250 GB.
> 
> Are there some other people with equal problems?
> 
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 2-feb.-2012 om 03:32 heeft Alex Hall  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>>> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one that
>>> is above Lion?
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
 out.
 VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
 Check you're software update and it should appear.
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Re: FOcus 40 blue in the new 10.7.3 update.

That's very odd. I updated, and I'm able to use it just fine. sorry; I have no 
clue what could be the problem for you. Did you check whether your Bluetooth is 
turned off?

Teresa

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> Hi all.
> 
> Has anybody experienced problems with your focus 40 blue braille display in 
> the new update to lion.
> 
> I can not connect my bluetooth display anymore. I have tried to remove it and 
> add it again, but it looks as if the driver is missing.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
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OS X 10.7.3: Possible fix for those with problems

2012-02-02 Thread Blake Sinnett

Hi all,

I came across this article which tells how to fix the weird issues some might
be having with the new Lion update. In short, download the combo update and
install it over the current installation.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/02/os-x-10-7-3-update-issues-fixable-in-many-cases-with-combo-version/

Following yesterday's release of OS X 10.7.3, a number of users in our forums
and at Apple's discussion forums began reporting issues with the update. The
most serious of these issues seems to be widespread crashing of apps generally
accompanied by an artwork error in the crash notice window in which the
window's buttons are replaced with graphics showing "CUI" and question marks.

In general, users have found that applying the combo version of the OS X 10.7.3
update rather than the standard delta version typically offered via Software
Update will fix the issues. The combo update can even be applied over an
existing installation that is exhibiting the problem.

With the crashing issues perhaps causing users difficulties in applying the
combo update to fix the problem, OS X Daily provides a nice summary of how this
can be accomplished:
The simple formula is this:

- Download Mac OS X 10.7.3 Combo Updater (direct link)
- Run the 10.7.3 Combo Updater on top of the existing 10.7.3 installation
- Reboot

If you can’t get to the desktop of the Mac in question, you can boot it with
Target Disk Mode (Firewire or Thunderbolt required), and then point the 10.7.3
Combo Update at the troubled Mac and install it that way. If your OS X
installation is totally screwed up and you can’t use target disk mode, you have
a few choices:

1. Restore from a recent pre-10.7.3 Time Machine backup, then install the Combo
Updater
2. Boot from Recovery HD, a Recovery Drive, or Lion USB drive, and reinstall
everything

Not the best situation, but hopefully you have recent Time Machine backups.The
report also notes that users who already updated and are unaffected by the
issues but still concerned that there may still be issues lurking can back up
their systems and simply install the combo version for peace of mind.

Hope this helps,
Blake

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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

Thanks, I found it and updated it.  I appreciate your patience.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

> Yes, apple menu. Software update. It will give you a continue default button. 
> Then you VO space on that button, and it will then do its thing.
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
> 
> On 2012-02-02, at 9:50 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> Where is software update, in the apple menu?  Still quite new to the Mac.  
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Software update, and then it will find it.
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>> 
>>> On 2012-02-02, at 9:16 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>> 
 How do you get it?  Do you just go to the app store?
 
 Thanks for your patience in answering my questions.
 
 Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
 On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
> 
> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
>> that
>> is above Lion?
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
>>> out.
>>> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
>>> Check you're software update and it should appear.
>>> HTH.
>>> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Matt Dierckens

Yes, apple menu. Software update. It will give you a continue default button. 
Then you VO space on that button, and it will then do its thing.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2012-02-02, at 9:50 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Where is software update, in the apple menu?  Still quite new to the Mac.  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Software update, and then it will find it.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my macbook pro
>> 
>> On 2012-02-02, at 9:16 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> 
>>> How do you get it?  Do you just go to the app store?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your patience in answering my questions.
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
 fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
 windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
 with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
 
 On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
> that
> is above Lion?
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
>> out.
>> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
>> Check you're software update and it should appear.
>> HTH.
>> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

Where is software update, in the apple menu?  Still quite new to the Mac.  

Thanks.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

> Hi,
> Software update, and then it will find it.
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
> 
> On 2012-02-02, at 9:16 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> How do you get it?  Do you just go to the app store?
>> 
>> Thanks for your patience in answering my questions.
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
 Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
 that
 is above Lion?
 
 Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
 On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
> out.
> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

Nope.  All my premium voices are still there.



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> Hi list,
> 
> After updating to 10.7.3, my premium voices were no longer installed.  I 
> recall this happening before after an update.  luckily, I had my time machine 
> back up so, all I need to do was copy the voices from the backup to the 
> proper place on my Mac HD.  I was wondering if anyone else had this happen to 
> them after updating?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote:
> 
>> Control tab now works in mail to switch from the message list to the content 
>> of the message/thread.
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> The Nuance voices still go squeaky when you expect it the least.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
>>> Albert Einstein
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
 fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
 windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
 with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
 
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> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
> that
> is above Lion?
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
>> out.
>> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
>> Check you're software update and it should appear.
>> HTH.
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Matt Dierckens

Hi,
Software update, and then it will find it.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

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> How do you get it?  Do you just go to the app store?
> 
> Thanks for your patience in answering my questions.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>>> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one that
>>> is above Lion?
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
 out.
 VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
 Check you're software update and it should appear.
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

How do you get it?  Do you just go to the app store?

Thanks for your patience in answering my questions.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
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> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
> 
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>> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one that
>> is above Lion?
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
>>> out.
>>> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
>>> Check you're software update and it should appear.
>>> HTH.
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Re: very bad impression about 10.7.3 was Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

Mine is working fine.
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> That is interesting because since upgrading I have not had any issues at all.
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:00 AM, William Windels wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I had a very bad experience with 10.7.3:
>> mostly all programs are crashing including mail, skype, yurufukurow, and 
>> about mail , I wasn't able to start it.
>> (this are programs that are starting by default).
>> Also, osx seems to relogin by default when I try to start one of the 
>> programs abouve: the usbscanner is making noice, I hear the welcome message 
>> of voiceover. and the programs are starting again.
>> 
>> After this discovery, I have done a disk and permission repair from in the 
>> recovery menu of Lion but this seems not to solve the problem.
>> Finally, I am setting back my last time-machine backup... :(
>> 
>> About my configuration:
>> I have a macbook from 2009: the one where sl was installed by default. There 
>> is 4 gb of ram and a default hd from 250 GB.
>> 
>> Are there some other people with equal problems?
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> William Windels
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op 2-feb.-2012 om 03:32 heeft Alex Hall  het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
 Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
 that
 is above Lion?
 
 Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Ricardo Walker

Hi list,

After updating to 10.7.3, my premium voices were no longer installed.  I recall 
this happening before after an update.  luckily, I had my time machine back up 
so, all I need to do was copy the voices from the backup to the proper place on 
my Mac HD.  I was wondering if anyone else had this happen to them after 
updating?

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote:

> Control tab now works in mail to switch from the message list to the content 
> of the message/thread.
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> The Nuance voices still go squeaky when you expect it the least.
>> 
>> --
>> Emrah
>> 
>> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
>> Albert Einstein
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
 Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
 that
 is above Lion?
 
 Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
 On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
> out.
> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
> Check you're software update and it should appear.
> HTH.
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Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Chris Westbrook

Control tab now works in mail to switch from the message list to the content of 
the message/thread.
On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Emrah wrote:

> The Nuance voices still go squeaky when you expect it the least.
> 
> --
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> 
> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
> Albert Einstein
> 
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>>> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one that
>>> is above Lion?
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
 out.
 VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
 Check you're software update and it should appear.
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Re: very bad impression about 10.7.3 was Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Things are working well here too. Two bugs are yet to be squished though, one 
is the realspeak voices that seem to wonder in pitch and the other one has to 
do with the Swedish and possibly other international realspeak voices that seem 
to mispronounce some letters when typing them. A workaround for the last bug is 
to put the typing echo to words, that helps.
/Krister

2 feb 2012 kl. 12:19 skrev Scott Howell:

> That is interesting because since upgrading I have not had any issues at all.
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:00 AM, William Windels wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I had a very bad experience with 10.7.3:
>> mostly all programs are crashing including mail, skype, yurufukurow, and 
>> about mail , I wasn't able to start it.
>> (this are programs that are starting by default).
>> Also, osx seems to relogin by default when I try to start one of the 
>> programs abouve: the usbscanner is making noice, I hear the welcome message 
>> of voiceover. and the programs are starting again.
>> 
>> After this discovery, I have done a disk and permission repair from in the 
>> recovery menu of Lion but this seems not to solve the problem.
>> Finally, I am setting back my last time-machine backup... :(
>> 
>> About my configuration:
>> I have a macbook from 2009: the one where sl was installed by default. There 
>> is 4 gb of ram and a default hd from 250 GB.
>> 
>> Are there some other people with equal problems?
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> William Windels
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op 2-feb.-2012 om 03:32 heeft Alex Hall  het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
 Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one 
 that
 is above Lion?
 
 Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
 On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
> out.
> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
> Check you're software update and it should appear.
> HTH.
> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: very bad impression about 10.7.3 was Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Scott Howell

That is interesting because since upgrading I have not had any issues at all.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:00 AM, William Windels wrote:

> Hello all,
> I had a very bad experience with 10.7.3:
> mostly all programs are crashing including mail, skype, yurufukurow, and 
> about mail , I wasn't able to start it.
> (this are programs that are starting by default).
> Also, osx seems to relogin by default when I try to start one of the programs 
> abouve: the usbscanner is making noice, I hear the welcome message of 
> voiceover. and the programs are starting again.
> 
> After this discovery, I have done a disk and permission repair from in the 
> recovery menu of Lion but this seems not to solve the problem.
> Finally, I am setting back my last time-machine backup... :(
> 
> About my configuration:
> I have a macbook from 2009: the one where sl was installed by default. There 
> is 4 gb of ram and a default hd from 250 GB.
> 
> Are there some other people with equal problems?
> 
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 2-feb.-2012 om 03:32 heeft Alex Hall  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>>> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one that
>>> is above Lion?
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
 out.
 VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
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