Re: IOS 5.1
hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Antivirus for mac
haven't used clam AV but will check it out. There are some voiceover hickups in sophos but I use it as a trusted product from back in the day when sophos was corporate antivirus. cheers lew On 10 Mar 2012, at 01:40, Scott Howell wrote: Hi Lew, Just curious if you have used the ClamAV product and how you feel this compares to the Sophos product. THanks, On Mar 9, 2012, at 6:55 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: yep, there's some good free antivirus software I recommend. sophos antivirus for mac. it's constantly updated and very stable. voiceover friendly from my experience in OS 10.6. if you get lost, let me know and I'll find the link for it for you. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 11:48, Hendrik Steyn wrote: Hello Everyone Is there antivirus software out there that works with Voiceover? I recently became part of a large home network and I don’t want my mac to be in the “passdown chain”. Any help appreciated. Kindly Hendrik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Antivirus for mac
Hey Lew, I thought the Sophos site offered some interesting info and glad they still support the software. I would be curious what if any differences there are and if one may be more effective over the other. I will also ask around and see if I can get some questions answered and will share what I learn. I'm always interested in keeping up with what is going on in the world of viruses etc. Perhaps not a significant issue for a Mac today, but one can never be to ready. :) Besides we should be considerate of our windows friends. :) On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: haven't used clam AV but will check it out. There are some voiceover hickups in sophos but I use it as a trusted product from back in the day when sophos was corporate antivirus. cheers lew On 10 Mar 2012, at 01:40, Scott Howell wrote: Hi Lew, Just curious if you have used the ClamAV product and how you feel this compares to the Sophos product. THanks, On Mar 9, 2012, at 6:55 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: yep, there's some good free antivirus software I recommend. sophos antivirus for mac. it's constantly updated and very stable. voiceover friendly from my experience in OS 10.6. if you get lost, let me know and I'll find the link for it for you. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 11:48, Hendrik Steyn wrote: Hello Everyone Is there antivirus software out there that works with Voiceover? I recently became part of a large home network and I don’t want my mac to be in the “passdown chain”. Any help appreciated. Kindly Hendrik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
witch version of audacity
Hi People, i play a bit with audacity, but it seems that the beta version is not as good to go with VoiceOver as might be. so, wich version do you use, so i can try that one? Thx, Egbert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
There seems to be a few interesting things happening when coming out of lock screen since the update. For me it's the same. The phone gets activated even though I have put focus on another app. Also I have found myself in editing mode twice now since the update. To be clear, I unlock the screen and try to do something but find that I have been put into editing app mode. It seems to be to do with the timing. You can't unlock the screen and immediately attempt to take an action as you could previously. You need to give the iPhone a second or two. Garth @BlindTech Musing On 10/03/2012, at 7:05 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google eBooks
Are google ebooks free? How do they work? Thanks, Becky On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Just be sure that 1. flowed text is available for the book and 2. you you set this option in settings if the book isn't read by VO. Scanned pages are not accessible. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: The one I purchased has been accessible on mac using safari and using the google books app on my iPhone. The mac experience has been more positive than the IOS one but they both seem to work fine. -Greg On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote: Hello list: Do any of you know whether Google eBooks are accessible with VoiceOver? Thank you, Ezzie Bueno Sent from my Macbook Pro ezziebu...@gmail.com (323) 448-0757 Check out daily jokes and more! www.SillyEz.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
Hi guys Well, I haven't had those problems yet. I have noticed, however, that I think they have deal with the problem of Siri and voice over not liking each other. Yesterday I made a call using Siri, and it didn't make me do it three or four times before I got it done. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com wrote: There seems to be a few interesting things happening when coming out of lock screen since the update. For me it's the same. The phone gets activated even though I have put focus on another app. Also I have found myself in editing mode twice now since the update. To be clear, I unlock the screen and try to do something but find that I have been put into editing app mode. It seems to be to do with the timing. You can't unlock the screen and immediately attempt to take an action as you could previously. You need to give the iPhone a second or two. Garth @BlindTech Musing On 10/03/2012, at 7:05 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
Hi, I can reproduce this bug 100% of the time. When you unlock, you just press anywhere on the screen before voiceover announces the name of the last app you where focused on before you locked your device. This will launch the phone app or, what ever app happens to be in the 1st slot in your dock. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
a bit of a pain in the neck isn't it. Something we're going to have to resolve with apple.. well it's a beautiful day and a cooling fan on the server has failed. so have to go and pick one up shortly. not an easy replacement. time for the soldering iron and colour identifier. lol lew On 10 Mar 2012, at 13:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I can reproduce this bug 100% of the time. When you unlock, you just press anywhere on the screen before voiceover announces the name of the last app you where focused on before you locked your device. This will launch the phone app or, what ever app happens to be in the 1st slot in your dock. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
Hi, I've reported this bug since the iOS 5.1 beta version to the bug report website. It seems they're working on that. We will see. irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 10/mar/2012, alle ore 15:27, Ricardo Walker ha scritto: Hi, I can reproduce this bug 100% of the time. When you unlock, you just press anywhere on the screen before voiceover announces the name of the last app you where focused on before you locked your device. This will launch the phone app or, what ever app happens to be in the 1st slot in your dock. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Libre and Open office
No I am using sl. 10.6.8. HTH. Matthew On Mar 9, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hello: Are you using open office with Lion? I was and I just removed it because it was unusable! Thank you for your advice. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 10/03/2012, a las 00:09, matthew Dyer escribió: Hi, I tested this in bot open office and libreoffice and can conferm that libreoffice has a problem with vo not speaking as I type. Openoffice works just fine. Note I am using libreoffice 3.5 r.c 3. HTH. Matthew On Mar 9, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Open office used to speak as I type but I haven't tried it for a while, so I don't know if 10.7 broke it or an update to Open Office did. Maybe somebody on OSX 10.6 could try OpenOffice as a tie breaker. CB On 3/7/12 9:42 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: Hi guys Is it normal that these two programs do not speak what you type and seem to conflict with VO? I thought they were a bit more accessible than pages. Did I misunderstand this? Thanks. Becky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com matthew Dyer e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com AIM: mattdy1 Yahoo: md1616 twitter: mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com matthew Dyer e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com AIM: mattdy1 Yahoo: md1616 twitter: mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Libre and Open office
With lion it is just impossible. Cheers! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 10/03/2012, a las 15:31, matthew Dyer escribió: No I am using sl. 10.6.8. HTH. Matthew On Mar 9, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hello: Are you using open office with Lion? I was and I just removed it because it was unusable! Thank you for your advice. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 10/03/2012, a las 00:09, matthew Dyer escribió: Hi, I tested this in bot open office and libreoffice and can conferm that libreoffice has a problem with vo not speaking as I type. Openoffice works just fine. Note I am using libreoffice 3.5 r.c 3. HTH. Matthew On Mar 9, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Open office used to speak as I type but I haven't tried it for a while, so I don't know if 10.7 broke it or an update to Open Office did. Maybe somebody on OSX 10.6 could try OpenOffice as a tie breaker. CB On 3/7/12 9:42 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: Hi guys Is it normal that these two programs do not speak what you type and seem to conflict with VO? I thought they were a bit more accessible than pages. Did I misunderstand this? Thanks. Becky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com matthew Dyer e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com AIM: mattdy1 Yahoo: md1616 twitter: mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com matthew Dyer e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com AIM: mattdy1 Yahoo: md1616 twitter: mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple script example
Hey everyone, There has been a lot of talk about apple scripts but I am bringing it up again. I have done a lot of searching on Google about how it works so I have a very small understanding of that. What I don't get thought is how to actually write them. I don't understand what needs quotes around it and what needs brackets and so on. Can someone send me a few scripts of varying difficulty so I can examine how they need to be arranged? I really appreciate any help. Take car! Mike Malarsie P.S. Off topic…are there any runners in here? I just ran my first 5k race today after losing my sight. What a rush!! Finished 7th. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
printing out envelopes and labels in TextEdit under Snow Leopard?
Happy weekend, listers. Just as it says, I've finally got a printer, and want to be able to print out envelopes and hopefully address labels. Prefs is unclear about this; is there a template somewhere, or what? Thanks for tips. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Should I choose Airport Extreme?
Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: printing out envelopes and labels in TextEdit under Snow Leopard?
Hi Mark, The easy way to print out envelopes and address labels is to select entries from your address book and then use the print dialog to specify details about your formatting. This works in Lion, too, but you may need to navigate to the Show Details button and press it (VO-Space) after issuing your Command-P to print. Basically, the detailed view will give you access to pop up menu buttons that let you choose between printing envelops and mailing labels. You can further adjust these settings for custom-sized envelopes or particular mailing label sheets by modifying tabs for the layout, if you need to, but I think you'll find the default settings work for most of what you want to do. I ran a Mail Archive search on from:Esther address envelopes and pulled up my post which links to the step-by-step instructions that Anne Robertson gave on the old (pre-2009) list. Here's my post: • Printing envelopes from the Address Book [was Re: Using Drag and Drop in VoiceOver]: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg30761.html You can read down the thread in Safari with the Control-N access key shortcut to read the next post, and use the Control-P access key shortcut to read the previous post in the thread. If you're using some other web browser, change the access key prefix from Control to make the appropriate combination (e.g. in Internet explorer, these become Alt-N and Alt-P). I'll also paste in the direct link to Anne's post in the old list if you don't want to read my comments about printing mailing labels: • Re: Addressing envelopes with Voiceover http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg45300.html I think this pretty much still works, although you don't have to use groups in Address Book unless you want to bulk process your envelope printing. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Happy weekend, listers. Just as it says, I've finally got a printer, and want to be able to print out envelopes and hopefully address labels. Prefs is unclear about this; is there a template somewhere, or what? Thanks for tips. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: printing out envelopes and labels in TextEdit under Snow Leopard?
*sigh* I *KNEW* that not putting people's addresses into AddressBook's database would come back to bite me in the bum sooner or later. *laugh* Thanks for this, Esther; it almost looks possible from Format in TextEdit, if I change the paper size and margins, so I could make a sample template, for envelopes in TextEdit. Your way is faster--or would, if I ever bothered to write people down. :) • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Should I choose Airport Extreme?
Hi and welcome. Routers are always a puzzle for folks these days. The D link router is a mainstage router meaning that there is a direct line feed from your phone line etc to the router, unless you're using cable where as I understand in the USA there's a direct connection, the airport unit / time capsule unit is primarily a router taking a feed from your main modem device if you know what I mean. I'm stating this as here in the UK, the airport extreme and other similar models in the range can't be used as combination DSL modems and routers, they are only routers requiring a feed from a master modem from the phone line. As regards USB, the USB interface can be used for storage devices like connected hard drives or printers which don't support wireless connections, etc or CAT5 connections for that matter. So using either the airport and it's family of products or the DLink routers will give you the same level of connectivity and support. the only difference is direct connectivity. the airport has direct connectivity to access settings and controls, where as the DLink uses a connection to it's inbuilt web server portal. either will do. the beauty behind DLink is they are owned by HP enterprise networking solutions, so DLink will offer you greater support compared to cheaper products on the net. lew On 10 Mar 2012, at 20:50, Traci wrote: Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Should I choose Airport Extreme?
With the USB connection on the Extreme I was able to connect my printer so it's available on all computers in the house even if my main computer is turned off. And this is an old HP laser printer, not a network compatible printer. You should also be able to add a splitter and install an HD, I did this for a while but I could not use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone my disk over this networked drive so I would up reattaching it directly to my Mac. Hope this helps. BILL HOLTON Email: mailto:b...@bholton.com b...@bholton.com Direct: 386-624-6309 Homepage: http://www.bholton.com www.bholton.com Home Office: 1520 Loughton ST DeLand, FL 32720 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 3:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Should I choose Airport Extreme? Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple script example
Hi Mike, Here's a very simple script which can allow some insight. Anything that is a string will be always between quotes while anything in a list will be between braces. Parens, like logical operations, are used to prioritize one operation from another, and they are also used for properties of objects. If you type two dashes at the beginning of line, the line will be considered a comment and not included in the compile. Same for /* and */ where everything between will be ignored. set thevar to text returned of (display dialog what's your name? default answer buttons {cancel, ok} default button 2) Set your_name to thevar Set random_greet to {?hello, hi, what's up, good day} Say an item of random_greet your_name The english is almost palpable in the script, but you need to get the hang of it. And also, get familiar with all the objects in each application's dictionary by pressing command shift o within applescript editor. Here's the script. Broken down by --comments --start by asking the user something set thename to text returned of (display dialog what's your name? default answer buttons {cancel, ok} default button 2) --make or set the variables for containment and use set random_greet to {hello, hi, what's up, good day} set thegreet to some item of random_greet --return the variables as a spoken sentence --leave a few seconds to shut up the system voice over delay 3 say thegreet thename , what can i help you with? This is a totally useless script, but there's a lot of grammar and types in there, and you can replace stuff around to see how it works. Hope this somewhat helps On 11/03/2012, at 8:57 AM, Michael Malarsie michael.malar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, There has been a lot of talk about apple scripts but I am bringing it up again. I have done a lot of searching on Google about how it works so I have a very small understanding of that. What I don't get thought is how to actually write them. I don't understand what needs quotes around it and what needs brackets and so on. Can someone send me a few scripts of varying difficulty so I can examine how they need to be arranged? I really appreciate any help. Take car! Mike Malarsie P.S. Off topic…are there any runners in here? I just ran my first 5k race today after losing my sight. What a rush!! Finished 7th. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Getting Addresses into your Address Book with Data Detectors [was Re: printing out envelopes and labels in TextEdit under Snow Leopard?]
Hi Mark, I took a look at using data detectors and enabling this in TextEdit, which may help with your importing into Address Book. If you are using TextEdit you can enable this feature by using the context menu, VO-Shift-M, and then either quickly pressing s u or arrowing down to the Substitutions menu option, pressing Right arrow to move to the Substitutions submenu, and arrowing down to Data Detectors and pressing return to select that option. What this lets you do is navigate to entries in your TextEdit document that appear to contain addresses and easily add them to your Address Book as either new contact entries, or as additions to existing contacts via the context menu. Try this out by navigating to the recipient's address in a letter you compose in TextEdit. For example, if I'm reviewing the letter and use VO-Down arrow to move to one of the address lines, the context menu brought up with VO-Shift-M contains options for Create new contact…, Add to existing contact…, and Show address in Google Maps. If you want to enable use of data detectors in TextEdit for all new documents, you can bring up the preferences menu with Command-Comma, and on the New Document tab that is probably selected by default, navigate to the check boxes under Options and check Data Detectors with VO-Space, I admit that I hadn't used this previously from TextEdit. Data detectors are turned on by default in Mail. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 10, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: *sigh* I *KNEW* that not putting people's addresses into AddressBook's database would come back to bite me in the bum sooner or later. *laugh* Thanks for this, Esther; it almost looks possible from Format in TextEdit, if I change the paper size and margins, so I could make a sample template, for envelopes in TextEdit. Your way is faster--or would, if I ever bothered to write people down. :) • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Should I choose Airport Extreme?
Hey tracy, I recently got the airport extreme and so far I like it. First it was very easy to setup with no sighted assistance. I am not sure about the other router you are looking at but the airport extreme is a dualband which is where some of the cost comes from. This will make a difference while using multiple devices and streaming content. We currently are running 2 ipones, a Ipad, 4 computers, a apple tv and a wireless home stereo system and they all work great anywhere in my house. On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Traci wrote: Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
hi , I have also experienced this bug since doing the 5.1 update on my 4s. I also wanted to share a Positive thing that a client of mine told me about and I confirmed is that with the Update to IOS 5.1 my Iphone 4s is now running on the 4g network. so to check just look at the status bar at the top of the phone and if your not using a wifi network it will say 4g now where it use to say 3g or edge depending on where you where. Just thought I would share this . btw I am on at*t . On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I can reproduce this bug 100% of the time. When you unlock, you just press anywhere on the screen before voiceover announces the name of the last app you where focused on before you locked your device. This will launch the phone app or, what ever app happens to be in the 1st slot in your dock. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting Addresses into your Address Book with Data Detectors [was Re: printing out envelopes and labels in TextEdit under Snow Leopard?]
Thanks again! I never really understood the irritating little buggers, honestly, and will have to turn them off in mail if I can; didn't think I could. They are currently turned OFF in TextEdit, but yes, that might be a more useful way of tracking and manipulating data. :) Î • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
I thought that was just me! I have the same issue. On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
The 4G you are seeing in the status bar doesn't actually mean you are getting a faster connection. It is just the HSDPA+ you have always got rebranded from 3G to 4G Sent from my iPhone On 11/03/2012, at 8:41 AM, jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: hi , I have also experienced this bug since doing the 5.1 update on my 4s. I also wanted to share a Positive thing that a client of mine told me about and I confirmed is that with the Update to IOS 5.1 my Iphone 4s is now running on the 4g network. so to check just look at the status bar at the top of the phone and if your not using a wifi network it will say 4g now where it use to say 3g or edge depending on where you where. Just thought I would share this . btw I am on at*t . On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I can reproduce this bug 100% of the time. When you unlock, you just press anywhere on the screen before voiceover announces the name of the last app you where focused on before you locked your device. This will launch the phone app or, what ever app happens to be in the 1st slot in your dock. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple script example
Awesome. Thank you very much. Im excited to go try it. Mike Malarsie On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, Here's a very simple script which can allow some insight. Anything that is a string will be always between quotes while anything in a list will be between braces. Parens, like logical operations, are used to prioritize one operation from another, and they are also used for properties of objects. If you type two dashes at the beginning of line, the line will be considered a comment and not included in the compile. Same for /* and */ where everything between will be ignored. set thevar to text returned of (display dialog what's your name? default answer buttons {cancel, ok} default button 2) Set your_name to thevar Set random_greet to {?hello, hi, what's up, good day} Say an item of random_greet your_name The english is almost palpable in the script, but you need to get the hang of it. And also, get familiar with all the objects in each application's dictionary by pressing command shift o within applescript editor. Here's the script. Broken down by --comments --start by asking the user something set thename to text returned of (display dialog what's your name? default answer buttons {cancel, ok} default button 2) --make or set the variables for containment and use set random_greet to {hello, hi, what's up, good day} set thegreet to some item of random_greet --return the variables as a spoken sentence --leave a few seconds to shut up the system voice over delay 3 say thegreet thename , what can i help you with? This is a totally useless script, but there's a lot of grammar and types in there, and you can replace stuff around to see how it works. Hope this somewhat helps On 11/03/2012, at 8:57 AM, Michael Malarsie michael.malar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, There has been a lot of talk about apple scripts but I am bringing it up again. I have done a lot of searching on Google about how it works so I have a very small understanding of that. What I don't get thought is how to actually write them. I don't understand what needs quotes around it and what needs brackets and so on. Can someone send me a few scripts of varying difficulty so I can examine how they need to be arranged? I really appreciate any help. Take car! Mike Malarsie P.S. Off topic…are there any runners in here? I just ran my first 5k race today after losing my sight. What a rush!! Finished 7th. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Should I choose Airport Extreme?
There are more reasons to go with an AirPort router over any other model. There are security reasons among many more. I cannot recommend Linksys routers as they are not nearly as secure as Apple routers. I'm sure many will not agree, but you go with an APple router and you will not regret the extra expense. On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Traci wrote: Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
Hey Lou. Sounds good. What is the email address to report this issue to? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google eBooks
Only the ones in the public domain are free. You can buy books in the Google ebook store. Once you buy them you can read them on the computer or on a mobile device. You can also sync them between computer and device, and read from where you leave off in either case. Teresa On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Becky Knaub wrote: Are google ebooks free? How do they work? Thanks, Becky On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Just be sure that 1. flowed text is available for the book and 2. you you set this option in settings if the book isn't read by VO. Scanned pages are not accessible. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: The one I purchased has been accessible on mac using safari and using the google books app on my iPhone. The mac experience has been more positive than the IOS one but they both seem to work fine. -Greg On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote: Hello list: Do any of you know whether Google eBooks are accessible with VoiceOver? Thank you, Ezzie Bueno Sent from my Macbook Pro ezziebu...@gmail.com (323) 448-0757 Check out daily jokes and more! www.SillyEz.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
External Drive Partition Help
Hello everyone, I have a question about partitioning an external hard drive. I have looked at some documentation describing how to use disk utility with voiceover, but it has not helped. I thought I found a solution to my problem, by adding volume partitions manually and then adjusting the settings respectively. When adding each partition the size for each partition decreases. For example: P1 = 1.00 TB P2 = 1.50 TB, and P3 = 500.00 GB. I have a 3TB external SeaGate. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you wish to message me off list anyone can do so. Thanks. Sent from my iMac Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Disregard Disk Partition Help Message
Hello guys, Please disregard the last message I posted asking about disk partitioning. I figured out the steps from a post I did not see before. Sorry for the clutter - cheers. Sent from my iMac Twitter: TheOrangeCircle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Should I choose Airport Extreme?
Thanks all, So, the Airport Extreme sounds more and more tempting. I've been doing further reading tonight and have some more questions. One thing we'll need is to use our wireless printer. I see websites mentioning connecting USB printers, but how about our wireless one? If I remember correctly, we don't usually connect it at all. We enter in our wireless user name and password into the printer. Should this work the same way with the Airport Extreme? Lastly. we have a windows laptop that will be using the wireless. Does the airport extreme work seamlessly with windows as well? Thanks again, :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Mar 10, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote: There are more reasons to go with an AirPort router over any other model. There are security reasons among many more. I cannot recommend Linksys routers as they are not nearly as secure as Apple routers. I'm sure many will not agree, but you go with an APple router and you will not regret the extra expense. On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Traci wrote: Hi all, A little introduction here. Traditionally, I love to read and research technology. The exception is wireless routers. I find them confusing and frustrating! Currently, I'm comparing a dLink wireless N router and the airport extreme. On one hand, I want to take the easy route and buy the airport extreme. I have had nothing but good experiences with Apple products. On that other hand, the dLink gets good reviews on Amazon and it is half the price. Please, guidance is welcome. We live in a 2 story townhouse and the router is usually upstairs. We have around 10 various devices that will be wirelessly connecting to the router at times. Usually, 2 or 3 at the same time. To extend this question further. Both of these routers have the USB connection on the back of the unit. Am I understanding it correctly, that this is how we could wirelessly listen to our music collection? Thanks all, hopefully you can help me sort this out. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 5.1
Hi, I think it always was, its just that your now being informed. In truth though, its not really 4G. Your not using ATT's LTE network but, 3.5 G which is HSPA +. I thought the carriers did consumers a disservice calling HSPA + and WIMAX 4G networks. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 5:41 PM, jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: hi , I have also experienced this bug since doing the 5.1 update on my 4s. I also wanted to share a Positive thing that a client of mine told me about and I confirmed is that with the Update to IOS 5.1 my Iphone 4s is now running on the 4g network. so to check just look at the status bar at the top of the phone and if your not using a wifi network it will say 4g now where it use to say 3g or edge depending on where you where. Just thought I would share this . btw I am on at*t . On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I can reproduce this bug 100% of the time. When you unlock, you just press anywhere on the screen before voiceover announces the name of the last app you where focused on before you locked your device. This will launch the phone app or, what ever app happens to be in the 1st slot in your dock. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I finally encountered this. I cannot reliably reproduce the issue, but I have seen it. Not sure exactly what conditions if any need to exist for the problem to occur either. The one thing I have always experienced and never quite understood is why you get a phone call and if you unlock the screen, the Phone app is always sitting there in the foreground. That behavior has existed for a very long time and always something I wish APple would change. On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: hmmm. interesting. I do have to admit to noticing a small issue. coming out of lock screen, if I touch an icon, it launches the phone without warning. h. time to investigate it a bit further and speak with some other guys all I can say is report all issues here to iphone accessibility and development so that us devs know about it and can resolve it. usually, a bug fix comes out in the first month or so. lets see. lew On 9 Mar 2012, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Lou. I just checked and the setting to view notifications in locked screen is turned on. Let me be more specific about the bug. Sometimes it'll read me the notification, and sometimes if it's from Imap Weather Radio, it'll just say slide to view and if it's a text it'll just say slide to reply. Also I'm not touching the screen at all when these notifications appear. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: IOS 5.1
Hi, accessibil...@apple.com Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hey Lou. Sounds good. What is the email address to report this issue to? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.