Re: Reading iBooks from the Mac?

[Anne Robertson]

Flicking the mute switch does stop the page-turning noise but it doesn't get 
rid of the pause.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: Skype help recording a call

[Maxwell Ivey]

hi ricardo; another friend suggested a plug in from Skype called call recorder. 
 do you know anything about it.  i have a seven day free trial and then its 
about $30.  thanks, max 
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> 
> audio hijack pro is great for this.
> 
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>> hello group; what would you recommend for recording Skype calls.  I've been 
>> wanting to start a video show, but I keep getting delayed; so I'm thinking 
>> why not start doing the interviews i want to by Skype and calling them 
>> interviews or profiles from the road.  thanks in advance for your help, max 
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Re: Reading iBooks from the Mac?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just want to point out, a 3 finger double tap doesn’t turn off Voiceover.  It 
just mutes speech.

hth

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Re: dictionary app info

[Ricardo Walker]

hi,

from your finder, press command shift A to open your application folder.  The 
dictionary app can be found in there.

hth

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On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Estelita  wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there a dictionary app on macbook pro?
> 
> If so, how can I activate it to work?
> 
> Thank you in advance for any info.
> 
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Re: Skype help recording a call

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

audio hijack pro is great for this.

hth

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 12:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:

> hello group; what would you recommend for recording Skype calls.  I've been 
> wanting to start a video show, but I keep getting delayed; so I'm thinking 
> why not start doing the interviews i want to by Skype and calling them 
> interviews or profiles from the road.  thanks in advance for your help, max 
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Re: Dropbox

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

yes.  You need to navigate to the status menu, and with your mouse cursor over 
the dropbox icon, do an option click with your trackpad or a mouse.  Keep in 
mind trackpad commander needs to be turned off.  When you do this, the dropbox 
menu will open with the option to pause syncing.

hth

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Under the latest version of Dropbox for the Mac, is there a way of pausing 
> syncing? I am having to connect to the internet via iPad hotspot and don't 
> want dropbox to be using up all my mobile data.
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Re: Mbraille new Braille keyboard iPhone app

[Nicholas Parsons]

I actually think the Braille Touch way of typing Braille makes much more sense 
than the Perkins way. The dots are actually lined up as they appear in the 
Braille cell. Moreover, they fit on the iPhone screen much better that way and 
it allows you to hold the device at the same time as typing. If you had six 
fingers all in a line, how would you hold the device? You would have to put the 
device down somewhere and this is inconvenient when you're mobile, and being 
mobile is the main point of an iPhone. I can see how having the dots all in a 
row Perkins style would make sense on an iPad, but not an iPhone.

I timed myself when I first got BrailleTouch before I had much practice and I 
was still more than twice as fast as I am using Flexy or the regular touch 
typing touch screen keyboard. It's brilliant.

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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Kliphton A M]

OH, let me also point out that you can add the epub books to iTunes and they 
will show up in your collections section of iBooks once you choose and sink the 
ones you want.  The mobi whitch is for kindle cannot be imported, you actually 
have to have a physical kindle to import them to your library, drag and drop 
them in your documents section of your kindle, and then they will show up in 
your books library.  HTH
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Jane  wrote:

> I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to be 
> able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read the 
> books with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can do with 
> iBooks. Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app now, and a 
> couple in Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. I also use 
> VoiceDream sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very high speed with 
> a different voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on unprotected 
> content, but that's still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
>> curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the 
>> mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for 
>> more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a 
>> podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get 
>> all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on 
>> here. Thanks.
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Re: Reading iBooks from the Mac?

[Nicholas Parsons]

HOw about just flicking the mute switch; does this work?

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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Kliphton A M]

Wow, that is a lot of books, especially if you bought them all.  This is an 
invite to anybody who wants them.  I have a library of 9000 books, in mobi 
format whitch is what the kindle reads, and epub whitch is what iBooks reads.  
If anyone wants this collection, contact me off list
kliph...@gmail.com
screen reader users, please check the spelling of the email, my name is not 
spelled the triditional way.
\c

On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Jane  wrote:

> I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to be 
> able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read the 
> books with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can do with 
> iBooks. Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app now, and a 
> couple in Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. I also use 
> VoiceDream sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very high speed with 
> a different voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on unprotected 
> content, but that's still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
>> curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the 
>> mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for 
>> more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a 
>> podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get 
>> all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on 
>> here. Thanks.
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Re: Reading iBooks from the Mac?

[Nicholas Parsons]

You can make sure VoiceOver is off too by doing a three finger double tap.

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Dropbox

[Garth Humphreys]

Hi all

Under the latest version of Dropbox for the Mac, is there a way of pausing 
syncing? I am having to connect to the internet via iPad hotspot and don't want 
dropbox to be using up all my mobile data.

Garth

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Skype help recording a call

[Maxwell Ivey]

hello group; what would you recommend for recording Skype calls.  I've been 
wanting to start a video show, but I keep getting delayed; so I'm thinking why 
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Re: Google maps question.

[Jessica Moss]

How do you find POI's around you with that?  I've never had any luck with that.
On Jun 26, 2013, at 11:12 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

> Why not just use the built in Apple Maps? I used it really for the first time 
> today, told Siri the address and to get me directions from my current 
> location, and amazingly it worked perfectly. I didn't need to do anything 
> else, and I was very surprised to find the directions even updating in the 
> locked screen. Didn't know that would work, give it a try.
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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>> I just downloaded google maps this morning to see how it compares to 
>> Maps/map quest, and can barely get it to do anything.  For some reason, it 
>> shows me as being in Lakeland instead of St. Augustine, and only shows a few 
>> cities in Fl., St. Augustine and Jacksonville not being the ones I'm looking 
>> for in the list, and the swipe jesture they tell you to use to ajust the map 
>> does nothing.  Then I try to plan a driving route just to test it using my 
>> contacts list, and managed to do that once, but now when I launch the app, 
>> my bookmarks option is gone, and all that shows up is, search, queri, map, 
>> and cancel, and I think that's it.  Then when I try to do a search, I find 
>> this huge list of results that I have no idea as to where most of them are 
>> considering the fact that some of these places (recreation for example,) 
>> sense I was looking for a particular park in the St. Augustine area, and 
>> ended up finding a ton of other places that popped up all over the place, 
>> and the screen just kept jumping around for some strange reason.
>> So at this point, I'm beyond frustrated with it, and am about ready to 
>> uninstall it, so if someone has some tips they could give me first, I'd 
>> really appreciate it.
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Re: Anyway to turn Password off In iPhone App Store

[Alex Hall]

A quick search indicates that this problem usually happens when content (music, 
books, an app update, or something else from the Apple servers) fails to 
download. For instance, you might have an app that was updating but never 
finished and is now stuck, or a media file that got interrupted. If you find an 
app that says "waiting" after it, try double tapping to pause the download, 
then again to reactivate it. If that fails, google has other ways of fixing 
stuck app downloads. If it is media, just open the relevant app (like iTunes or 
Music) and see if you can force the download to continue or restart.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> HeY Juliette, I can definitely tell you they take their billing very 
> seriously, as I had some fraudulent charges on my debit cards, and one of 
> them was to iTunes. So of course, Apple froze my account. This was six months 
> ago, but the fun of getting my user name reactivated was a giant pain. Maybe 
> this is still something from that, but I haven't had any trouble with 
> purchases, just this annoying password popup every time I open the app store
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Juliette  wrote:
> 
>> This is just a thought. I recently experienced this when trying to update an 
>> app, because iTunes had declined my payment method on a previous purchase. 
>> It did not go away until I changed my payment method.  NOt only that, but it 
>> literally put a hold on my account.  Meaning, I couldn't even access content 
>> on my Apple TV because it kept saying there was a billing problem.  I guess 
>> that means they take their payment process seriously.  Hope this issue gets 
>> resolved for you.  I know how annoying it is.
>> 
>> Juliette
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, my Apple ID is set in AppStrore in the settings menu. Didn't find any 
>>> kind of setting about the password though
>>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Have you set your ID in settings? Go to settings, then iTunes and Ap 
 Store, and make sure your Apple ID is set there.
 On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
> Kind of something annoying that just recently started happening. I looked 
> in the settings and couldn't find anything to toggle this off. Anytime I 
> launch the App store on the iPhone 4s my username and password pops up, I 
> don't want to buy anything I am just updating apps, and I have to hit 
> cancel to get it to close. I don't need to log in to update, so why is 
> this happening, really annoying. Thanks
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Re: Anyway to turn Password off In iPhone App Store

[Brian Fischler]

HeY Juliette, I can definitely tell you they take their billing very seriously, 
as I had some fraudulent charges on my debit cards, and one of them was to 
iTunes. So of course, Apple froze my account. This was six months ago, but the 
fun of getting my user name reactivated was a giant pain. Maybe this is still 
something from that, but I haven't had any trouble with purchases, just this 
annoying password popup every time I open the app store
On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Juliette  wrote:

> This is just a thought. I recently experienced this when trying to update an 
> app, because iTunes had declined my payment method on a previous purchase. It 
> did not go away until I changed my payment method.  NOt only that, but it 
> literally put a hold on my account.  Meaning, I couldn't even access content 
> on my Apple TV because it kept saying there was a billing problem.  I guess 
> that means they take their payment process seriously.  Hope this issue gets 
> resolved for you.  I know how annoying it is.
> 
> Juliette
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, my Apple ID is set in AppStrore in the settings menu. Didn't find any 
>> kind of setting about the password though
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you set your ID in settings? Go to settings, then iTunes and Ap Store, 
>>> and make sure your Apple ID is set there.
>>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Kind of something annoying that just recently started happening. I looked 
 in the settings and couldn't find anything to toggle this off. Anytime I 
 launch the App store on the iPhone 4s my username and password pops up, I 
 don't want to buy anything I am just updating apps, and I have to hit 
 cancel to get it to close. I don't need to log in to update, so why is 
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks. for letting me know. Yeah, there are only so many hours in the day, and 
while I did enjoy reading years ago, I always seem to be behind on all my other 
content. I would like to thank Google Reader for going away, as I spent plenty 
of time making sure all of my feeds got transferred. Damn Google they are the 
bain of my existence. HA
On Jun 27, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> HI Brian,
> 
> Yes, iBooks is mainly for reading books, though it's also a nice way to read 
> any unprotected PDF files. It's generally a really good PDF and eBook reader, 
> and it makes available a lot of books that aren't available elsewhere in 
> audiobook format or from other libraries that cater to the blind. Currently, 
> the best way to read DRM protected eBooks on the Mac is with Adobe Digital 
> Editions, but this is not the easiest to navigate. So iBooks on the Mac will 
> hopefully offer a whole new range of content which can be accessibly read on 
> the Mac. Podcasts and RSS readers are great, but they don't have the same 
> content as can be found on the various eBook stores. Same goes for the other 
> libraries available to the blind which generally have relatively limited 
> content.
> 
> So, sounds like you're not missing out on anything if you're not a big 
> reader. :)
> 
> I'm really looking forward to Amazon making the Kindle app accessible on the 
> Mac. Having both Kindle and iBooks on OS X and iOS would be brilliant.
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Jane]

They don't accept your registration with NLS?

Jane




On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Thanks Jane. I had looked into Bookshare, but would first need to get a 
> letter from my doc, and I think it was more costly than the amount of books I 
> read in a year, but it might be something I want to look into again.
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> You can subscribe to Bookshare, too, and maybe the series will be there. If 
>> so you can download as MP3 audio to play on your player, though the quality 
>> will be that of synthesized speech. Still, better than nothing.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Jane,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the quick response, and that is what I thought everyone was so 
>>> excited about, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something as I am 
>>> not an avid reader, and just use the NLS player for all of my books, and 
>>> they offer more than enough content for me. Of course, the one series of 
>>> books I did want to read, they didn't have. Go figure.
>>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
 I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to 
 be able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read 
 the books with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can 
 do with iBooks. Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app 
 now, and a couple in Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. 
 I also use VoiceDream sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very 
 high speed with a different voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on 
 unprotected content, but that's still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!
 
 Jane
 
 
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> Hey all,
> 
> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind 
> of curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to 
> the mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use 
> it for more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am 
> more of a podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why 
> I didn't get all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be 
> missing out on here. Thanks.
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks Jane. I had looked into Bookshare, but would first need to get a letter 
from my doc, and I think it was more costly than the amount of books I read in 
a year, but it might be something I want to look into again.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Jane  wrote:

> You can subscribe to Bookshare, too, and maybe the series will be there. If 
> so you can download as MP3 audio to play on your player, though the quality 
> will be that of synthesized speech. Still, better than nothing.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Jane,
>> 
>> Thanks for the quick response, and that is what I thought everyone was so 
>> excited about, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something as I am 
>> not an avid reader, and just use the NLS player for all of my books, and 
>> they offer more than enough content for me. Of course, the one series of 
>> books I did want to read, they didn't have. Go figure.
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to 
>>> be able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read 
>>> the books with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can do 
>>> with iBooks. Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app now, 
>>> and a couple in Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. I also 
>>> use VoiceDream sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very high 
>>> speed with a different voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on 
>>> unprotected content, but that's still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey all,
 
 After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind 
 of curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to 
 the mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use 
 it for more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am 
 more of a podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why 
 I didn't get all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be 
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Re: dictionary app info

[Alex Hall]

There is. Either look for it using Spotlight, open it from the applications 
folder or Launchpad, or put your cursor on a word and press option-command-d. 
Only the latter will look up a word; simply launching the app will require you 
to type in the word you are looking for.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Estelita  wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there a dictionary app on macbook pro?
> 
> If so, how can I activate it to work?
> 
> Thank you in advance for any info.
> 
>  
> Estelita
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dictionary app info

[Estelita]

Hi,
Is there a dictionary app on macbook pro?

If so, how can I activate it to work?

Thank you in advance for any info.



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Adding Facebook To Skype In Latest Update

[BBS]

Hi all. Is there any way of adding Facebook to my Skype accounts anymore? If 
so, how is this done?

Shawn
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twitterrific authentication

[Maxwell Ivey]

hello group; I installed twitteriffic, but all i get is the authenticate 
screen.  I read some of the earlier posts on this subject but must have missed 
a key point.  if people know of a better twitter client, I'd love to hear about 
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past purchases on iTunes

[krysti]

is there any way i can download past purchases from more then one iTunes 
account on a iPad or MacBook Pro 

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Re: Mbraille new Braille keyboard iPhone app

[Maria & Joe Chapman]

Hi.  I don't think they are all that strange. the table layout is a bit strange 
but I could get used to it.

I think it's all about practise.


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> I agree, but what I want to see, is  a keyboard that has the braille keys set 
> up like normal, not some crazy keys in rows thing or anything like that. I 
> want them, across the screen, straight across to be dot 3, 2, 1, 4, 5, 6, 
> from left to right. Can't this be done? Is there a real reason why the dots 
> in mbraille have to be in such a strange position?
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
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> On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> No it doesn't as of today and the app is like six months or so old pretty 
>> appalling in my view.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 27/06/2013 20:47, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
>>> Does Braille Touch have contracted Braille incorporated into it??  Richie
>>> Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Christina C." 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am new to learning braille right now and I have been using Brailletouch
>>> pretty well but I have not upgraded. I am still keeping my fingers crossed
>>> that apple will find a way to incorporate specialized keyboards like the
>>> brailletouch or the fleksy keyboard because I don't use these great tools
>>> very often because I don't like having to do the copy and paste thing
>>> unless it's a long email or faceBook post. I hate that I can't use these
>>> keyboards for texting. I just hope these great tools will and can have more
>>> integration into iOS. :) I do type a lot faster with these apps. :)
>>> 
>>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Both apps allow you to switch dots 1-3, 4-6. So take your pick.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> On 26/06/2013 16:25, shane christenson wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this is the case with the new m braille, but when I tried to
>>> use braille touch, and when I'd try to do the letter N, the app would come
>>> up with either a Z or a the sign, so it seemed a little backwards, so I
>>> gave up on it. If there's a way to fix this, I'd sure like to know it.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Shane
>>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Maria & Joe Chapman 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI.  I seem to have got the hang of this pretty quick but I can't afford to
>>> upgrade yet so I'll just keep practising.  does anyone know if it's
>>> available for ipads?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> regards
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>>> email:
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>>> check out
>>> www.95-the-mix.com
>>> where we play lots of great music
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26/06/2013, at 10:34 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon all.
>>> Well this app will run BrailleTouch for their money.
>>> It is another one of these Braille keyboard apps, with some unique
>>> features, such as Contracted Braille support, which may attract some of
>>> you. Another unique feature is tutorial mode, so you can get used to how
>>> the keyboard is laid out before actually entering text.
>>> One not so quite unique feature, as this is also available in
>>> TypeInBraille, is editing capability.
>>> Here is the link in the Uk app store if interested.
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/mbraille/id639199558?mt=8
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using mac but retaining windows

[Kerri]

Help, there. I too utilize iMac, iPhone and iPad almost exclusively. However, I 
do have a windows 7 machine to convert notes from my victor reader stream to 
mp3 with the human ware because Humanware does not have a mac version of their 
conversion software. If they did, I'd never use windows.
On 2013-06-27, at 2:44 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi,
> I too am an iphone, ipad, & mac user. As much as I enjoy my apple equipment, 
> I retain my windows 7 machine for the rare instance there is not a mac 
> equivalent for a windows program I may need at the time.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello  everyone, 
> 
> I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I first 
> purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  anyone that I 
> knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access  to a smart phone 
> where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let alone  download  
> music and video content.  Without  having sighted assistancevery. So when I 
> had my brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did 
> not know what  to do with myself  at first. 
> Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I phone  
> 4. s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with an I pad 
> mini and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested  in all 
> things apple that I am at the moment. 
> For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system ever 
> again as long as I live. 
> Sincerely,  Chenelle 
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Re: i phone users.

[Kerri]

*grin, seriously addicted grin.
On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock  wrote:

>> 
>> Hello  everyone, 
> 
> I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I first 
> purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  anyone that I 
> knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access  to a smart phone 
> where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let alone  download  
> music and video content.  Without  having sighted assistancevery. So when I 
> had my brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did 
> not know what  to do with myself  at first. 
> Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I phone  
> 4. s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with an I pad 
> mini and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested  in all 
> things apple that I am at the moment. 
> For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system ever 
> again as long as I live. 
> Sincerely,  Chenelle 
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Re: i phone discussion

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. It took me a couple of weeks to get comfortable with the touch 
screen. Once I realized that I could flick right and left instead of precisely 
locating icons on the screen I was home free. Touch typing also helped a lot. 
The only gesture I struggle with is the pinch gestures. I would appreciate any 
tips.

On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Been there, done that, I couldn't remember where the letters wet either smile 
> and I never used pocket anything.
> On 2013-06-27, at 1:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> I'll confess, I never read the manual, I just played with it.  But I had 
>> used Pocket PC for Windows so I knew from friends who had iPhones to double 
>> tap.  But the On screen keyboard was a bugger to learn, I couldn't remember 
>> where the letters were even though everything was laid out like a computer 
>> keyboard or an manual typewriter.
>> On 27 Jun 2013, at 21:32, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> It took me about 3 days to get the worst of it over with and this without 
>>> *any assistance whatsoever, completely self taught.
>>> On 2013-06-27, at 1:12 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>>> 
 of course it was a challenge at first.  but honestly, how long was it 
 before you were using the iPhone like an old pro? that's all I'm getting 
 at, someone said it perfectly, I think it was Gigi, realize that tens of 
 thousands of other blind people are using the iPhone everyday, therefore 
 so can you. Unless you want to hold to the ridiculous notion that you are 
 somehow different or less capable than everyone else. And if you do, 
 exactly how do you know that? Answer: you don't!
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: "Kerri" 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:05 PM
 Subject: Re: i phone discussion
 
 
 Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big 
 deal. But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the 
 phone? For me at least, having never even touched a flat screen it was 
 brutal. Yes I got through it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is 
 not a big deal for to you what is big is not to the next person.
 On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
 
> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the 
> onscreen keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing 
> mode to "touch", its even easier.
> 
> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed 
> for the environment.
> 
> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was 
> worried about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I 
> really needed to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone 
> app, then move on to other less important functions. Within a week I was 
> using the iPhone like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. 
> It's mostly the fear of change and a new way of doing things that seems 
> to get in newcomer's way.
> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand 
> in no time.
> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if 
> you keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. 
> It is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> Karen and all:
>> 
>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
>> phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile 
>> provider until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how 
>> the i phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital 
>> transactions depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I 
>> did this.
>> 
>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots 
>> sold by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
>> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
>> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
>> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
>> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
>> an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for 
>> many but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri 
>> as well as with 

files strangely not fitting on external drive

[Anouk Radix]

Hi,
My drive checked with get info says it has 193 gb free space, i try to fit a 
file on it of 83gb but finder stil says it does not have enough space on the 
drive.
What might be the problem? Might finder not be accurate?
It is a drive ormatted with ntfs and i am using tuxera ntfs to read it.
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: i phone users.

[ppowells09]

Hi,
I too am an iphone, ipad, & mac user. As much as I enjoy my apple equipment, I 
retain my windows 7 machine for the rare instance there is not a mac equivalent 
for a windows program I may need at the time.

Pam Francis

On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock  
wrote:

> 
> Hello  everyone, 

I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I first 
purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  anyone that I 
knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access  to a smart phone 
where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let alone  download  music 
and video content.  Without  having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my 
brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did not know 
what  to do with myself  at first. 
Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I phone  4. 
s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with an I pad mini 
and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested  in all things apple 
that I am at the moment. 
For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system ever again 
as long as I live. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 
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Re: Mbraille new Braille keyboard iPhone app

[Devin Prater]

I agree, but what I want to see, is  a keyboard that has the braille keys set 
up like normal, not some crazy keys in rows thing or anything like that. I want 
them, across the screen, straight across to be dot 3, 2, 1, 4, 5, 6, from left 
to right. Can't this be done? Is there a real reason why the dots in mbraille 
have to be in such a strange position?
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> No it doesn't as of today and the app is like six months or so old pretty 
> appalling in my view.
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 27/06/2013 20:47, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
>> Does Braille Touch have contracted Braille incorporated into it??  Richie
>> Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Christina C." 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am new to learning braille right now and I have been using Brailletouch
>> pretty well but I have not upgraded. I am still keeping my fingers crossed
>> that apple will find a way to incorporate specialized keyboards like the
>> brailletouch or the fleksy keyboard because I don't use these great tools
>> very often because I don't like having to do the copy and paste thing
>> unless it's a long email or faceBook post. I hate that I can't use these
>> keyboards for texting. I just hope these great tools will and can have more
>> integration into iOS. :) I do type a lot faster with these apps. :)
>> 
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Chris H  wrote:
>> 
>> Both apps allow you to switch dots 1-3, 4-6. So take your pick.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 26/06/2013 16:25, shane christenson wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure if this is the case with the new m braille, but when I tried to
>> use braille touch, and when I'd try to do the letter N, the app would come
>> up with either a Z or a the sign, so it seemed a little backwards, so I
>> gave up on it. If there's a way to fix this, I'd sure like to know it.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Shane
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Maria & Joe Chapman 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> HI.  I seem to have got the hang of this pretty quick but I can't afford to
>> upgrade yet so I'll just keep practising.  does anyone know if it's
>> available for ipads?
>> 
>> thanks
>> regards
>> Maria and crew from australia
>> email:
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> check out
>> www.95-the-mix.com
>> where we play lots of great music
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 26/06/2013, at 10:34 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>> 
>> Good afternoon all.
>> Well this app will run BrailleTouch for their money.
>> It is another one of these Braille keyboard apps, with some unique
>> features, such as Contracted Braille support, which may attract some of
>> you. Another unique feature is tutorial mode, so you can get used to how
>> the keyboard is laid out before actually entering text.
>> One not so quite unique feature, as this is also available in
>> TypeInBraille, is editing capability.
>> Here is the link in the Uk app store if interested.
>> https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/mbraille/id639199558?mt=8
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Re: Anyway to turn Password off In iPhone App Store

[Juliette]

This is just a thought. I recently experienced this when trying to update an 
app, because iTunes had declined my payment method on a previous purchase. It 
did not go away until I changed my payment method.  NOt only that, but it 
literally put a hold on my account.  Meaning, I couldn't even access content on 
my Apple TV because it kept saying there was a billing problem.  I guess that 
means they take their payment process seriously.  Hope this issue gets resolved 
for you.  I know how annoying it is.

Juliette

On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Yes, my Apple ID is set in AppStrore in the settings menu. Didn't find any 
> kind of setting about the password though
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Have you set your ID in settings? Go to settings, then iTunes and Ap Store, 
>> and make sure your Apple ID is set there.
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Kind of something annoying that just recently started happening. I looked 
>>> in the settings and couldn't find anything to toggle this off. Anytime I 
>>> launch the App store on the iPhone 4s my username and password pops up, I 
>>> don't want to buy anything I am just updating apps, and I have to hit 
>>> cancel to get it to close. I don't need to log in to update, so why is this 
>>> happening, really annoying. Thanks
>>> 
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Re: i phone users.

[Chenelle Hancock]

> 
> Hello  everyone, 

I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I first 
purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  anyone that I 
knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access  to a smart phone 
where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let alone  download  music 
and video content.  Without  having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my 
brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did not know 
what  to do with myself  at first. 
Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I phone  4. 
s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with an I pad mini 
and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested  in all things apple 
that I am at the moment. 
For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system ever again 
as long as I live. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 

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Reading iBooks from the Mac?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello  all,
 I use a series  of different  formats in regards  to reading  books on the i 
phone. 
I use the audible app, I books, Read to go,  voice stream and bard  by the 
national  library service.  I am also using my braille display  to read 
articles  from the nfb  website as well.  I also have braille books sent to my 
house  for me to read in a hard  copy format. 
I want to try to disable  my speech  on my read  to go app.  So I  so I  can 
read  the book share  books with my  braille display. 
How do I go about disabling  the speech on read to go. 
thanks a lot  for  your help. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: i phone discussion

[Kerri]

Been there, done that, I couldn't remember where the letters wet either smile 
and I never used pocket anything.
On 2013-06-27, at 1:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I'll confess, I never read the manual, I just played with it.  But I had used 
> Pocket PC for Windows so I knew from friends who had iPhones to double tap.  
> But the On screen keyboard was a bugger to learn, I couldn't remember where 
> the letters were even though everything was laid out like a computer keyboard 
> or an manual typewriter.
> On 27 Jun 2013, at 21:32, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> It took me about 3 days to get the worst of it over with and this without 
>> *any assistance whatsoever, completely self taught.
>> On 2013-06-27, at 1:12 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> of course it was a challenge at first.  but honestly, how long was it 
>>> before you were using the iPhone like an old pro? that's all I'm getting 
>>> at, someone said it perfectly, I think it was Gigi, realize that tens of 
>>> thousands of other blind people are using the iPhone everyday, therefore so 
>>> can you. Unless you want to hold to the ridiculous notion that you are 
>>> somehow different or less capable than everyone else. And if you do, 
>>> exactly how do you know that? Answer: you don't!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Kerri" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big 
>>> deal. But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the phone? 
>>> For me at least, having never even touched a flat screen it was brutal. Yes 
>>> I got through it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is not a big deal 
>>> for to you what is big is not to the next person.
>>> On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>>> 
 I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the 
 onscreen keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing 
 mode to "touch", its even easier.
 
 I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
 the environment.
 
 When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was 
 worried about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I 
 really needed to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, 
 then move on to other less important functions. Within a week I was using 
 the iPhone like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's 
 mostly the fear of change and a new way of doing things that seems to get 
 in newcomer's way.
 Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand 
 in no time.
 The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
 keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
 - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
 Subject: Re: i phone discussion
 
 
 Hi,
 Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. 
 It is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
 
> Karen and all:
> 
> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
> phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
> phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
> depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
> 
> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
> by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
> screen.
> 
> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
> an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for 
> many but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri 
> as well as with it.
> 
> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
> making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
> offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
> input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
> you could give us the steps to do this?
> 
> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
> learning curve

Accessible remote desk top connection

[Nancy Wyman]

Hi everyone,
Does anyone know of an accessible remote desktop connection program? This is 
very important for my work. I would appreciate any and all suggestions.
Thanks. Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I'll confess, I never read the manual, I just played with it.  But I had used 
Pocket PC for Windows so I knew from friends who had iPhones to double tap.  
But the On screen keyboard was a bugger to learn, I couldn't remember where the 
letters were even though everything was laid out like a computer keyboard or an 
manual typewriter.
On 27 Jun 2013, at 21:32, Kerri  wrote:

> It took me about 3 days to get the worst of it over with and this without 
> *any assistance whatsoever, completely self taught.
> On 2013-06-27, at 1:12 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
> 
>> of course it was a challenge at first.  but honestly, how long was it before 
>> you were using the iPhone like an old pro? that's all I'm getting at, 
>> someone said it perfectly, I think it was Gigi, realize that tens of 
>> thousands of other blind people are using the iPhone everyday, therefore so 
>> can you. Unless you want to hold to the ridiculous notion that you are 
>> somehow different or less capable than everyone else. And if you do, exactly 
>> how do you know that? Answer: you don't!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Kerri" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big 
>> deal. But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the phone? 
>> For me at least, having never even touched a flat screen it was brutal. Yes 
>> I got through it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is not a big deal 
>> for to you what is big is not to the next person.
>> On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>>> "touch", its even easier.
>>> 
>>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>>> the environment.
>>> 
>>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on 
>>> to other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone 
>>> like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear 
>>> of change and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>>> no time.
>>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> 
>>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
>>> 
 Karen and all:
 
 For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
 phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
 I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
 until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
 phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
 depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
 
 Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
 by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
 necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
 individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
 screen.
 
 I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
 siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
 the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
 an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many 
 but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well 
 as with it.
 
 I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
 making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
 offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
 input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
 you could give us the steps to do this?
 
 Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
 learning curve, at least from my perspective.
 Jean
 
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kerri]

It took me about 3 days to get the worst of it over with and this without *any 
assistance whatsoever, completely self taught.
On 2013-06-27, at 1:12 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> of course it was a challenge at first.  but honestly, how long was it before 
> you were using the iPhone like an old pro? that's all I'm getting at, someone 
> said it perfectly, I think it was Gigi, realize that tens of thousands of 
> other blind people are using the iPhone everyday, therefore so can you. 
> Unless you want to hold to the ridiculous notion that you are somehow 
> different or less capable than everyone else. And if you do, exactly how do 
> you know that? Answer: you don't!
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kerri" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
> 
> 
> Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big 
> deal. But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the phone? 
> For me at least, having never even touched a flat screen it was brutal. Yes I 
> got through it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is not a big deal for 
> to you what is big is not to the next person.
> On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>> "touch", its even easier.
>> 
>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>> the environment.
>> 
>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
>> other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
>> old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
>> and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>> no time.
>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Karen and all:
>>> 
>>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>>> I am happy to explain my experience.
>>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>>> 
>>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
>>> by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
>>> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
>>> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
>>> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
>>> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>>> give us the steps to do this?
>>> 
>>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
>>> learning curve, at least from my perspective.
>>> Jean
>>> 
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Just remember, if you indeed get an I phone, we are here, you can ask and ask 
questions, and I for one and many others will give you as much help as 
possible.  If you knew of a blind person living near you, then they could give 
you a hand or if you are on Skype and you need help, I'll help you even if I'm 
half way round the world.  However, if you are dead against touch screens, as I 
said RNIB do a phone which is voice and seeing only with buttons.  I'm sure 
organisations in the US do phones like that if indeed you live in the wonderful 
USA.

Kawal.
On 27 Jun 2013, at 21:05, Phil Halton  wrote:

> of course I don't mind kawal. And, you said the operative word in your 
> message "frightened". That is all my point is, it is fear of something new 
> and an unwillingness to try new things that is at the heart of it. When one 
> gets past that fearful insistance on sticking with the old way, they 
> inevitably find that it is an easy transition.
> Of course, people are free to do what they wish even to the point of blocking 
> themselves with fearful resistance.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
> 
> 
> I hope you don't mind me saying so but everyone is different regarding touch 
> screens. When I gave a demo of a touch screen at an exhibition, Even though 
> it was not an I phone as at that time the Iphone did not exist, people were 
> frightened.
> 
> On 27 Jun 2013, at 04:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>> "touch", its even easier.
>> 
>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>> the environment.
>> 
>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
>> other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
>> old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
>> and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>> no time.
>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Karen and all:
>>> 
>>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>>> I am happy to explain my experience.
>>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>>> 
>>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
>>> by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
>>> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
>>> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
>>> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
>>> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>>> give us the steps to do this?
>>> 
>>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
>>> learning curve, at least from my perspective.
>>> Jean
>>> 
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RE: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Becky Sabo]

Hi all,
When will these apps be accessible on the Mack?
Thank 
Becky Sabo 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

HI Brian,

Yes, iBooks is mainly for reading books, though it's also a nice way to read
any unprotected PDF files. It's generally a really good PDF and eBook
reader, and it makes available a lot of books that aren't available
elsewhere in audiobook format or from other libraries that cater to the
blind. Currently, the best way to read DRM protected eBooks on the Mac is
with Adobe Digital Editions, but this is not the easiest to navigate. So
iBooks on the Mac will hopefully offer a whole new range of content which
can be accessibly read on the Mac. Podcasts and RSS readers are great, but
they don't have the same content as can be found on the various eBook
stores. Same goes for the other libraries available to the blind which
generally have relatively limited content.

So, sounds like you're not missing out on anything if you're not a big
reader. :)

I'm really looking forward to Amazon making the Kindle app accessible on the
Mac. Having both Kindle and iBooks on OS X and iOS would be brilliant.

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Re: More than one iTunes account

[Krysti]

Did that and I still get the same message 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-06-27, at 3:35 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> right.  In this case, I think the thing to do is create another iTunes 
> library.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> The short answer is "No".  You can have multiple Apple IDs running on your 
>> Mac or iDevice as in, one for iTunes and another for iCloud stuff but not 
>> two in either service.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-06-27, at 3:52 AM, Krysti  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey can I have more Than one iTunes account authorized on my Computer at 
>>> once my family uses it to and doesn't like my playlist when syncing with 
>>> iPads 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: i phone discussion

[Phil Halton]

of course it was a challenge at first.  but honestly, how long was it before 
you were using the iPhone like an old pro? that's all I'm getting at, 
someone said it perfectly, I think it was Gigi, realize that tens of 
thousands of other blind people are using the iPhone everyday, therefore so 
can you. Unless you want to hold to the ridiculous notion that you are 
somehow different or less capable than everyone else. And if you do, exactly 
how do you know that? Answer: you don't!




- Original Message - 
From: "Kerri" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: i phone discussion


Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big 
deal. But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the phone? 
For me at least, having never even touched a flat screen it was brutal. Yes 
I got through it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is not a big deal 
for to you what is big is not to the next person.

On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the 
onscreen keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing 
mode to "touch", its even easier.


I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
the environment.


When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was 
worried about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I 
really needed to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, 
then move on to other less important functions. Within a week I was using 
the iPhone like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's 
mostly the fear of change and a new way of doing things that seems to get 
in newcomer's way.
Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand 
in no time.
The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
- Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: i phone discussion


Hi,
Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. 
It is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.


Lisette

On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:


Karen and all:

For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.


Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
screen.


I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for 
many but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri 
as well as with it.


I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
you could give us the steps to do this?


Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
learning curve, at least from my perspective.

Jean

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Re: Mbraille new Braille keyboard iPhone app

[Chris H]

No it doesn't as of today and the app is like six months or so old 
pretty appalling in my view.



Chris

On 27/06/2013 20:47, Richie Gardenhire wrote:

Does Braille Touch have contracted Braille incorporated into it??  Richie
Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Christina C." 
wrote:

I am new to learning braille right now and I have been using Brailletouch
pretty well but I have not upgraded. I am still keeping my fingers crossed
that apple will find a way to incorporate specialized keyboards like the
brailletouch or the fleksy keyboard because I don't use these great tools
very often because I don't like having to do the copy and paste thing
unless it's a long email or faceBook post. I hate that I can't use these
keyboards for texting. I just hope these great tools will and can have more
integration into iOS. :) I do type a lot faster with these apps. :)

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Chris H  wrote:

Both apps allow you to switch dots 1-3, 4-6. So take your pick.


Chris

On 26/06/2013 16:25, shane christenson wrote:

Not sure if this is the case with the new m braille, but when I tried to
use braille touch, and when I'd try to do the letter N, the app would come
up with either a Z or a the sign, so it seemed a little backwards, so I
gave up on it. If there's a way to fix this, I'd sure like to know it.
Thanks.

Shane

On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Maria & Joe Chapman 
wrote:

HI.  I seem to have got the hang of this pretty quick but I can't afford to
upgrade yet so I'll just keep practising.  does anyone know if it's
available for ipads?

thanks
regards
Maria and crew from australia
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where we play lots of great music




On 26/06/2013, at 10:34 PM, Chris H  wrote:

Good afternoon all.
Well this app will run BrailleTouch for their money.
It is another one of these Braille keyboard apps, with some unique
features, such as Contracted Braille support, which may attract some of
you. Another unique feature is tutorial mode, so you can get used to how
the keyboard is laid out before actually entering text.
One not so quite unique feature, as this is also available in
TypeInBraille, is editing capability.
Here is the link in the Uk app store if interested.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/mbraille/id639199558?mt=8
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Re: i phone discussion

[Phil Halton]

of course I don't mind kawal. And, you said the operative word in your 
message "frightened". That is all my point is, it is fear of something new 
and an unwillingness to try new things that is at the heart of it. When one 
gets past that fearful insistance on sticking with the old way, they 
inevitably find that it is an easy transition.
Of course, people are free to do what they wish even to the point of 
blocking themselves with fearful resistance.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: i phone discussion


I hope you don't mind me saying so but everyone is different regarding touch 
screens. When I gave a demo of a touch screen at an exhibition, Even though 
it was not an I phone as at that time the Iphone did not exist, people were 
frightened.


On 27 Jun 2013, at 04:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the 
onscreen keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing 
mode to "touch", its even easier.


I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
the environment.


When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was 
worried about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I 
really needed to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, 
then move on to other less important functions. Within a week I was using 
the iPhone like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's 
mostly the fear of change and a new way of doing things that seems to get 
in newcomer's way.
Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand 
in no time.
The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
- Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: i phone discussion


Hi,
Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. 
It is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.


Lisette

On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:


Karen and all:

For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.


Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
screen.


I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for 
many but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri 
as well as with it.


I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
you could give us the steps to do this?


Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
learning curve, at least from my perspective.

Jean

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Re: Mbraille new Braille keyboard iPhone app

[Richie Gardenhire]

Does Braille Touch have contracted Braille incorporated into it??  Richie
Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Christina C." 
wrote:

I am new to learning braille right now and I have been using Brailletouch
pretty well but I have not upgraded. I am still keeping my fingers crossed
that apple will find a way to incorporate specialized keyboards like the
brailletouch or the fleksy keyboard because I don't use these great tools
very often because I don't like having to do the copy and paste thing
unless it's a long email or faceBook post. I hate that I can't use these
keyboards for texting. I just hope these great tools will and can have more
integration into iOS. :) I do type a lot faster with these apps. :)

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Chris H  wrote:

Both apps allow you to switch dots 1-3, 4-6. So take your pick.


Chris

On 26/06/2013 16:25, shane christenson wrote:

Not sure if this is the case with the new m braille, but when I tried to
use braille touch, and when I'd try to do the letter N, the app would come
up with either a Z or a the sign, so it seemed a little backwards, so I
gave up on it. If there's a way to fix this, I'd sure like to know it.
Thanks.

Shane

On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Maria & Joe Chapman 
wrote:

HI.  I seem to have got the hang of this pretty quick but I can't afford to
upgrade yet so I'll just keep practising.  does anyone know if it's
available for ipads?

thanks
regards
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On 26/06/2013, at 10:34 PM, Chris H  wrote:

Good afternoon all.
Well this app will run BrailleTouch for their money.
It is another one of these Braille keyboard apps, with some unique
features, such as Contracted Braille support, which may attract some of
you. Another unique feature is tutorial mode, so you can get used to how
the keyboard is laid out before actually entering text.
One not so quite unique feature, as this is also available in
TypeInBraille, is editing capability.
Here is the link in the Uk app store if interested.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/mbraille/id639199558?mt=8
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Nicholas Parsons]

HI Brian,

Yes, iBooks is mainly for reading books, though it's also a nice way to read 
any unprotected PDF files. It's generally a really good PDF and eBook reader, 
and it makes available a lot of books that aren't available elsewhere in 
audiobook format or from other libraries that cater to the blind. Currently, 
the best way to read DRM protected eBooks on the Mac is with Adobe Digital 
Editions, but this is not the easiest to navigate. So iBooks on the Mac will 
hopefully offer a whole new range of content which can be accessibly read on 
the Mac. Podcasts and RSS readers are great, but they don't have the same 
content as can be found on the various eBook stores. Same goes for the other 
libraries available to the blind which generally have relatively limited 
content.

So, sounds like you're not missing out on anything if you're not a big reader. 
:)

I'm really looking forward to Amazon making the Kindle app accessible on the 
Mac. Having both Kindle and iBooks on OS X and iOS would be brilliant.

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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Jane]

VO turns pages in the Kindle app, as well, thankfully! But yes, VoiceOver and 
various reading solutions are great.

Jane




On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

> IMHO, iBooks and vo together are the most elegant solutions we have for 
> reading for us. VoiceOver turns pages as it reads. Very elegant.  
> 
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> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
>> curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the 
>> mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for 
>> more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a 
>> podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get 
>> all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on 
>> here. Thanks.
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Jane]

You can subscribe to Bookshare, too, and maybe the series will be there. If so 
you can download as MP3 audio to play on your player, though the quality will 
be that of synthesized speech. Still, better than nothing.

Jane




On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Jane,
> 
> Thanks for the quick response, and that is what I thought everyone was so 
> excited about, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something as I am 
> not an avid reader, and just use the NLS player for all of my books, and they 
> offer more than enough content for me. Of course, the one series of books I 
> did want to read, they didn't have. Go figure.
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to 
>> be able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read the 
>> books with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can do with 
>> iBooks. Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app now, and a 
>> couple in Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. I also use 
>> VoiceDream sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very high speed 
>> with a different voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on unprotected 
>> content, but that's still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind 
>>> of curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the 
>>> mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for 
>>> more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a 
>>> podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't 
>>> get all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out 
>>> on here. Thanks.
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Re: i phone discussion

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I agree that switching from buttons and keys to all touch might be a bit scary 
for some blind folks but, the concept is certainly not new.  I’ve been using 
touch screen devices since early 2007.  The thing is, blind people are placed 
in a position where the only way for them to have great accessibility, is to go 
with a touch screen device for the most part now.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> Touch screens is a new concept for blind users, as we all know. Back in 2010, 
> I thought this was impossible for us. The folks at Apple proved me wrong. I 
> think a lot of us cannot even imagine how we can do it. My mother sees me do 
> it, and she can't believe it. So, I think it's something you have to try for 
> yourself to see how it can work. Also, when the going gets tough in the 
> beginning, you have to keep telling yourself that other blind people have 
> done it, therefore soak in you. That's what kept me going during the first 
> three hours that I spent with the screen. After that, I was fine. But I know 
> a blind gal who didn't do well with her iPhone until she got a braille 
> display, and now she adores her iPhone. I think that got her started, and I 
> believe she can now use her touchscreen to.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> I hope you don't mind me saying so but everyone is different regarding touch 
>> screens. When I gave a demo of a touch screen at an exhibition, Even though 
>> it was not an I phone as at that time the Iphone did not exist, people were 
>> frightened.
>> 
>> On 27 Jun 2013, at 04:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>>> "touch", its even easier.
>>> 
>>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>>> the environment.
>>> 
>>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on 
>>> to other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone 
>>> like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear 
>>> of change and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>>> no time.
>>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> 
>>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
>>> 
 Karen and all:
 
 For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
 phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
 I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
 until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
 phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
 depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
 
 Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
 by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
 necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
 individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
 screen.
 
 I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
 siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
 the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
 an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many 
 but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well 
 as with it.
 
 I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
 making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
 offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
 input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
 you could give us the steps to do this?
 
 Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
 learning curve, at least from my perspective.
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Re: More than one iTunes account

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

right.  In this case, I think the thing to do is create another iTunes library.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> The short answer is "No".  You can have multiple Apple IDs running on your 
> Mac or iDevice as in, one for iTunes and another for iCloud stuff but not two 
> in either service.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-06-27, at 3:52 AM, Krysti  wrote:
> 
>> Hey can I have more Than one iTunes account authorized on my Computer at 
>> once my family uses it to and doesn't like my playlist when syncing with 
>> iPads 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kerri]

Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big deal. 
But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the phone? For me at 
least, having never even touched a flat screen it was brutal. Yes I got through 
it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is not a big deal for to you what 
is big is not to the next person.
On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
> "touch", its even easier.
> 
> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
> the environment.
> 
> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed to 
> do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
> other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
> old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
> and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
> no time.
> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> Karen and all:
>> 
>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>> I am happy to explain my experience.
>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>> 
>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold by 
>> Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be necessary 
>> however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as individuals.  I 
>> find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the screen.
>> 
>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for siri 
>> to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is the 
>> case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>> with it.
>> 
>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>> give us the steps to do this?
>> 
>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the learning 
>> curve, at least from my perspective.
>> Jean
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Kindle works very like iBooks on the iPhone. It even makes the same 
page-turning sound. I prefer Kobo on the iPhone as it reads straight through 
one chapter at a time without making that noise. And because it stops at the 
end of a chapter, I don't mind falling asleep listening since I know there 
won't be too many pages to go back to find the last part I can remember.

Cheers,

Anne


On 27 Jun 2013, at 19:55, Pete Nalda  wrote:

> IMHO, iBooks and vo together are the most elegant solutions we have for 
> reading for us. VoiceOver turns pages as it reads. Very elegant.  
> 
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Anne Robertson]

I have well over a hundred books from Kobo on my iPhone and on my Mac, and I'm 
rapidly increasing the size of my Kindle library. I don't buy very many iBooks 
as I'm in France, and the choice of English language books is limited. So my 
iBooks library is limited to books in French, apart from the ones I've created 
myself from scans.

Cheers,

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Re: i phone discussion

[Kerri]

nnedI was a pocket PC Windows user with Mobile speak from 2008 until my HTC 
Touch PRO 2 died. Then I just went to the I phone 4. mobile Speak for Pocket 
Windows was totally different as you had to tap the 4 corners of the screen if 
you wanted something done like the date and time, I think it was at the end 
slide and double tap. 

So when I got the I phone 4 I was so glad that I didn't have to slide and do a 
series of taps to achieve things. Also, with the Windows mobile Pocket I was 
unable to use the virtual keyboard. But learning the keyboard on the I phone 
was difficult at first. I found that If Touch typing was turned on it was 
easier. But it was fantastic, I didn't have to do things several times to get 
things working on the I phone.

Kawal.

On 27 Jun 2013, at 12:05 AM, shane christenson  wrote:

> Hi everyone. From the point of view of someone who's a gadget freak, 
> admittedly, the whole touch screen idea was a little weird to me, but I have 
> a good friend who had 1 of the first ipod touches with voice-over, and he let 
> me play with it for about 10 minutes, and he showed me how to use thje most 
> common gestures, so, when I got my iPhone, I didn't go in blindly, (no pun 
> intended). Another thing that was a big help, was the salesman at the apple 
> store where I got the phone, who spent 3 hours with me, patiently showing me 
> skads of different things, and if he didn't know something, he looked it up, 
> and we learned together. Ever since then, i've been like a kid in a candy 
> store. Just my 2 cents, and btw, this is coming from a guy who used to be a 
> very loyal mobile speak user from 2005 until 2010.
> 
> Shane
> 
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:01 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> Karen and all:
>> 
>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>> I am happy to explain my experience.  
>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>> 
>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold by 
>> Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be necessary 
>> however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as individuals.  I 
>> find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the screen.  
>> 
>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for siri 
>> to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is the 
>> case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>> with it.
>> 
>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>> give us the steps to do this?
>> 
>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the learning 
>> curve, at least from my perspective.
>> Jean
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Pete Nalda]

IMHO, iBooks and vo together are the most elegant solutions we have for reading 
for us. VoiceOver turns pages as it reads. Very elegant.  

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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
> curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the mac. 
> I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for more 
> than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a podcasts 
> and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get all of 
> the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on here. 
> Thanks.
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kerri]

You have said well. I wasn't afraid of them but I wanted nothing whatsoever to 
do with it and I never had the benefit of a demonstration.
On 2013-06-27, at 8:25 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I hope you don't mind me saying so but everyone is different regarding touch 
> screens. When I gave a demo of a touch screen at an exhibition, Even though 
> it was not an I phone as at that time the Iphone did not exist, people were 
> frightened.
> 
> On 27 Jun 2013, at 04:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>> "touch", its even easier.
>> 
>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>> the environment.
>> 
>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
>> other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
>> old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
>> and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>> no time.
>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Karen and all:
>>> 
>>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>>> I am happy to explain my experience.
>>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>>> 
>>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
>>> by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
>>> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
>>> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
>>> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
>>> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>>> give us the steps to do this?
>>> 
>>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
>>> learning curve, at least from my perspective.
>>> Jean
>>> 
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Devin Prater]

Wow. You can reply off list, but what books do you read from iBooks? I'd surely 
not have enough money to buy 100 books or more.
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Jane  wrote:

> I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to be 
> able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read the 
> books with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can do with 
> iBooks. Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app now, and a 
> couple in Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. I also use 
> VoiceDream sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very high speed with 
> a different voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on unprotected 
> content, but that's still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
>> curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the 
>> mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for 
>> more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a 
>> podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get 
>> all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on 
>> here. Thanks.
>> 
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Touchscreens have existed since 2007 at least.

On 27 Jun 2013, at 05:24 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> Touch screens is a new concept for blind users, as we all know. Back in 2010, 
> I thought this was impossible for us. The folks at Apple proved me wrong. I 
> think a lot of us cannot even imagine how we can do it. My mother sees me do 
> it, and she can't believe it. So, I think it's something you have to try for 
> yourself to see how it can work. Also, when the going gets tough in the 
> beginning, you have to keep telling yourself that other blind people have 
> done it, therefore soak in you. That's what kept me going during the first 
> three hours that I spent with the screen. After that, I was fine. But I know 
> a blind gal who didn't do well with her iPhone until she got a braille 
> display, and now she adores her iPhone. I think that got her started, and I 
> believe she can now use her touchscreen to.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> I hope you don't mind me saying so but everyone is different regarding touch 
>> screens. When I gave a demo of a touch screen at an exhibition, Even though 
>> it was not an I phone as at that time the Iphone did not exist, people were 
>> frightened.
>> 
>> On 27 Jun 2013, at 04:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>>> "touch", its even easier.
>>> 
>>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>>> the environment.
>>> 
>>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on 
>>> to other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone 
>>> like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear 
>>> of change and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>>> no time.
>>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> 
>>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
>>> 
 Karen and all:
 
 For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
 phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
 I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
 until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
 phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
 depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
 
 Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
 by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
 necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
 individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
 screen.
 
 I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
 siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
 the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
 an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many 
 but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well 
 as with it.
 
 I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
 making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
 offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
 input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
 you could give us the steps to do this?
 
 Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
 learning curve, at least from my perspective.
 Jean
 
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Jane,

Thanks for the quick response, and that is what I thought everyone was so 
excited about, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something as I am not 
an avid reader, and just use the NLS player for all of my books, and they offer 
more than enough content for me. Of course, the one series of books I did want 
to read, they didn't have. Go figure.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jane  wrote:

> I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to be 
> able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read the 
> books with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can do with 
> iBooks. Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app now, and a 
> couple in Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. I also use 
> VoiceDream sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very high speed with 
> a different voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on unprotected 
> content, but that's still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
>> curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the 
>> mac. I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for 
>> more than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a 
>> podcasts and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get 
>> all of the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on 
>> here. Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Jane]

I have over 1,500 books in iBooks on my two iPads. I'll be happy enough to be 
able to sit at the computer and read them, too. :) Being able to read the books 
with a Braille display makes it all worth while, which you can do with iBooks. 
Of course I also have a bunch of books in the kindle app now, and a couple in 
Blio, and even Play Books, which is Google's reader. I also use VoiceDream 
sometimes, when I want to listen to a book at very high speed with a different 
voice than Samantha. Voice Dream only works on unprotected content, but that's 
still a *lot* of my iBooks collection!

Jane


On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
> curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the mac. 
> I never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for more 
> than just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a podcasts 
> and news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get all of 
> the excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on here. 
> Thanks.
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Ibooks Coming to the Mac

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

After going through all the announcements about the IOS and OS I was kind of 
curious why the blind community is so excited about Ibooks coming to the mac. I 
never use Ibooks on the iPhone, and am curious, do people use it for more than 
just reading books. Am I missing something here? I am more of a podcasts and 
news reader than book reader, so maybe that is why I didn't get all of the 
excitement. Would love to hear what I might be missing out on here. Thanks.

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Re: Anyway to turn Password off In iPhone App Store

[Brian Fischler]

Yes, my Apple ID is set in AppStrore in the settings menu. Didn't find any kind 
of setting about the password though
On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Have you set your ID in settings? Go to settings, then iTunes and Ap Store, 
> and make sure your Apple ID is set there.
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Kind of something annoying that just recently started happening. I looked in 
>> the settings and couldn't find anything to toggle this off. Anytime I launch 
>> the App store on the iPhone 4s my username and password pops up, I don't 
>> want to buy anything I am just updating apps, and I have to hit cancel to 
>> get it to close. I don't need to log in to update, so why is this happening, 
>> really annoying. Thanks
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Re: i phone discussion

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys
Touch screens is a new concept for blind users, as we all know. Back in 2010, I 
thought this was impossible for us. The folks at Apple proved me wrong. I think 
a lot of us cannot even imagine how we can do it. My mother sees me do it, and 
she can't believe it. So, I think it's something you have to try for yourself 
to see how it can work. Also, when the going gets tough in the beginning, you 
have to keep telling yourself that other blind people have done it, therefore 
soak in you. That's what kept me going during the first three hours that I 
spent with the screen. After that, I was fine. But I know a blind gal who 
didn't do well with her iPhone until she got a braille display, and now she 
adores her iPhone. I think that got her started, and I believe she can now use 
her touchscreen to.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I hope you don't mind me saying so but everyone is different regarding touch 
> screens. When I gave a demo of a touch screen at an exhibition, Even though 
> it was not an I phone as at that time the Iphone did not exist, people were 
> frightened.
> 
> On 27 Jun 2013, at 04:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>> "touch", its even easier.
>> 
>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>> the environment.
>> 
>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
>> other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
>> old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
>> and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>> no time.
>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Karen and all:
>>> 
>>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>>> I am happy to explain my experience.
>>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>>> 
>>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
>>> by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
>>> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
>>> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
>>> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
>>> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>>> give us the steps to do this?
>>> 
>>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
>>> learning curve, at least from my perspective.
>>> Jean
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Re: rss readers out there after google reader demise

[Alex Hall]

I could not find it in the App Store. Also, does it use anything to sync with 
other apps? I don't want to use an app that won't sync to Lire or another iOS 
app.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:

> Have you tried Viana? It is free and very accessible.
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> If anyone uses google reader extensively, does anyone have a replacement 
>> reader that syncs somewhere and can provide rss on the desktop instead of 
>> those slow and annoying web based rss readers?
>> 
>> I'm trying to find the best solution, and already going through a lot of 
>> obstacles with google not being accessible for downloading my list of feeds, 
>> netnewswire's new interface having lost accessibility, etc.
>> 
>> Nightmare 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> 
>> 
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I hope you don't mind me saying so but everyone is different regarding touch 
screens. When I gave a demo of a touch screen at an exhibition, Even though it 
was not an I phone as at that time the Iphone did not exist, people were 
frightened.

On 27 Jun 2013, at 04:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
> "touch", its even easier.
> 
> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
> the environment.
> 
> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed to 
> do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
> other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
> old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
> and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
> no time.
> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
> - Original Message - From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> Karen and all:
>> 
>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>> I am happy to explain my experience.
>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>> 
>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold by 
>> Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be necessary 
>> however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as individuals.  I 
>> find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the screen.
>> 
>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for siri 
>> to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is the 
>> case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>> with it.
>> 
>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>> give us the steps to do this?
>> 
>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the learning 
>> curve, at least from my perspective.
>> Jean
>> 
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Re: i phone discussion

[Phil Halton]

I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
"touch", its even easier.


I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
the environment.


When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
no time.
The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lisette Wesseling" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: i phone discussion


Hi,
Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.


Lisette

On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:


Karen and all:

For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.


Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
screen.


I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many 
but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well 
as with it.


I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
you could give us the steps to do this?


Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
learning curve, at least from my perspective.

Jean

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Re: rss readers out there after google reader demise

[Larry Skutchan]

Have you tried Viana? It is free and very accessible.

On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> If anyone uses google reader extensively, does anyone have a replacement 
> reader that syncs somewhere and can provide rss on the desktop instead of 
> those slow and annoying web based rss readers?
> 
> I'm trying to find the best solution, and already going through a lot of 
> obstacles with google not being accessible for downloading my list of feeds, 
> netnewswire's new interface having lost accessibility, etc.
> 
> Nightmare 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
> 
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> 
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Re: More than one iTunes account

[Red.Falcon]

Hi!
OK with the iPhone you can choose what playlist's can sync or artists and other 
options!
Can you not do that with a iPad!
If they have their own playlist's and just sync them and not yours!
hth Colin

On 27 Jun 2013, at 15:05, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> The short answer is "No".  You can have multiple Apple IDs running on your 
> Mac or iDevice as in, one for iTunes and another for iCloud stuff but not two 
> in either service.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-06-27, at 3:52 AM, Krysti  wrote:
> 
>> Hey can I have more Than one iTunes account authorised on my Computer at 
>> once my family uses it to and doesn't like my playlist when syncing with 
>> iPads 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: More than one iTunes account

[Tim Kilburn]

The short answer is "No".  You can have multiple Apple IDs running on your Mac 
or iDevice as in, one for iTunes and another for iCloud stuff but not two in 
either service.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> my family uses it to and doesn't like my playlist when syncing with iPads 
> 
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Re: quickly moving through the message list with mail

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

On the Apple extended keyboard, substitute the following:

>> • VO-End - Moves you to the last visible message in the Table.•
>>  VO-Home takes you to the top most visible item in the Table.
>> • Press down arrow once after getting to the bottom most in the visible area 
>> and you can start over again with a new set.
>> • VO-shift-End takes you right down to the bottom of the entire list of 
>> messages in the Table.
>> • VO-shift-Home takes you back to the top most message in the entire Table.

Note that as in the other case, you must first be Interacting with the Messages 
Table otherwise you'll move around the actual window or other element you are 
within.

Later...

> 

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-26, at 11:18 PM, shane christenson  wrote:

> Hi, Tim. Thanks for that info. What if you're on a regular mac keyboard? 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Shane
> 
> On Jun 22, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Assuming you're on a laptop with the built-in keyboard, try the following 
>> after Interacting with the Messages Table:
>> 
>> • VO-FN-right arrow - Moves you to the last visible message in the Table.•
>>  VO-FN-left arrow takes you to the top most visible item in the Table.
>> • Press down arrow once after getting to the bottom most in the visible area 
>> and you can start over again with a new set.
>> • VO-FN-shift-right arrow takes you right down to the bottom of the entire 
>> list of messages in the Table.
>> • VO-FN-shift-left arrow takes you back to the top most message in the 
>> entire Table.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-06-22, at 9:11 PM, shane christenson  wrote:
>> 
>>> How is the best way to do this. I've tried every modifier key in 
>>> conjunction with the pgdn key, and nothing seems to work. Is there a quick 
>>> way to move through the list of messages without having to arrow up and 
>>> down through each message? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Shane
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Re: If I really must get an iphone...

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
If you do decide to do what Pam suggested, you may want to be sure to get some 
extra battery power with a juice pack or something similar to it. The front of 
mine got a juice pack from Apple that is also a case for the iPhone. She's 
quite happy with it.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:19 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hello Karen, 
> I have an Iphone 4S. I do use a hardware keyboard that attaches to the back 
> of the phone , only slightly thickening it, yet giving me hardware tactile 
> keys. When one gets used to the feel, it is designed for speed. It is called 
> a keyboard buddy ase made by boxwave. The hardware keyboard slides in & out 
> as needed. If you look in to this type of keyboard or a similar manufacturer, 
> you won't be sorry. The unit slips over the back of the phone & is no longer 
> than the phone, it is also bluetooth connected.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:57 PM, "Jamie Pauls"  wrote:
> 
> You cannot, however, add a contact using Siri. As much as I agree with all
> comments about how great the iPhone is, I feel that we need to try to answer
> the specific questions as much as possible. I am pretty sure you can use a
> Bluetooth keyboard to dial phone numbers, although I haven't done so. Also,
> remember that you can get cases with a keyboard attached so you aren't
> carrying two pieces of equipment. This will, of course, increase the size of
> the phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:59 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: If I really must get an iphone...
> 
> Hello.
> The first question is true, using Siri, you can dial numbers, and send text
> messages is possible using your voice.
> I don't believe there is a keyboard scrictly for dialling, however.
> Hope this helped.
> 
> On 2013-06-26, at 12:55 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I do not want one truth be told.  My goal is a phone with buttons, and
> while some remain available from my provider, I may not end up with much
> choice  lol.
>> I understand from many using the iphone for dialing that it is slow and a
> pain.
>> my questions are two, and very strict ones.  do not mistake me, I know it
> is fine as a smart device, but I am 100% firm on what I need in a phone
> only.
>> My questions are two.
>> can I do everything entirely by voice? speak the numbers, if for some odd
> reason I want to send a text, etc.?
>> second, if I must add a keyboard for dialing, does one exist?  not for
> typing, strictly for dialing the phone.
>> I type 85 words a minute, I do not wish to spend time poking rapidly at a
> screen  trying to dial the phone.
>> so, are either of the two work arounds options?
>> thanks,
>> Karen
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Re: Disable auto speak pass code VoiceOver

[Alex Hall]

What do you mean by autospeak of passcode? When I unlock my phone, Voiceover 
just tells me about the passcode field, like it does for any text field, and I 
enter my code.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:05 AM, Krysti  wrote:

> Hey is there a way to disable auto speak of pass code for VoiceOver on the 
> iPhone 
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Re: Announcing the Beta of Talking Dashboard

[Alex Hall]

I'll add it to the list to investigate. I don't use Time Machine so, if this is 
possible, it might require working off-list with someone, but I will see what 
can be done.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> Hi Alex,
> Can we please have a script to announce TimeMachine status in the next 
> version? Whether it's currently backing up or not, how long until the next 
> backup, time of the last backup etcetera.
> Thanks.
> Nic
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Re: Anyway to turn Password off In iPhone App Store

[Alex Hall]

Have you set your ID in settings? Go to settings, then iTunes and Ap Store, and 
make sure your Apple ID is set there.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Kind of something annoying that just recently started happening. I looked in 
> the settings and couldn't find anything to toggle this off. Anytime I launch 
> the App store on the iPhone 4s my username and password pops up, I don't want 
> to buy anything I am just updating apps, and I have to hit cancel to get it 
> to close. I don't need to log in to update, so why is this happening, really 
> annoying. Thanks
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Re: i phone discussion

[Alex Hall]

For the record, I can use the keypad to make selections in menus by just using 
speaker phone mode. Of course, this is not ideal for when you are out in 
public, but at home I have never had to use a headset.
On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
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> Hi,
> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers. 
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> Karen and all:
>> 
>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>> I am happy to explain my experience.  
>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>> 
>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold by 
>> Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be necessary 
>> however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as individuals.  I 
>> find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the screen.  
>> 
>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for siri 
>> to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is the 
>> case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>> with it.
>> 
>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>> give us the steps to do this?
>> 
>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the learning 
>> curve, at least from my perspective.
>> Jean
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rss readers out there after google reader demise

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi all,

If anyone uses google reader extensively, does anyone have a replacement reader 
that syncs somewhere and can provide rss on the desktop instead of those slow 
and annoying web based rss readers?

I'm trying to find the best solution, and already going through a lot of 
obstacles with google not being accessible for downloading my list of feeds, 
netnewswire's new interface having lost accessibility, etc.

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Re: More than one iTunes account

[Daniel C]

You can have multiple devices on 1 library.
Be Aware However
Having multiple devices means that whatever you have on your library, your 
other devices will have 2. Anything that you might have, if the other devices 
don't match what you have, the other devices will be wiped and re-synced with 
your library's content.
If you mean more than 1 iTunes Store account, yes, this is possible. However, 
more than 1 library, it wouldn't be possible, not without issues.
If you'll authorize more than 1 iTunes store account. for each account to be 
authorized for iTunes store, simply log out of 1 account, then login to each 
account and they will be authorized.
You can only be logged into 1 iTunes store account at a time, however.
Hope this helps.

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Baffling problem with Main Stage in conjunction with Garageband and ProTools

[Chris Gilland]

First of all, sorry for the crossposting, as this is going both to mac 
visionaries as well as the pt access list.  I just figured most of the 
people on mac visionaries probably are not going to be the most familiar 
with the higher end audio stuff where as the pt access list very well may 
be.  I'm just trying to broaden my search resources a bit.  Anyway, that out 
of the jar, here's my question.


I'm having something really really odd going on with Main Stage, and I can't 
figure out for the life of me what on earth it thinks it's doing.  I'm 
trying to patch the instruments from Main Stage through to ProTools or to 
Garageband.  Preferably the former, but whatever.  So here's the deal.  I 
honestly haven't tried this directly in Garageband, but in Main Stage 
itself, I hit command+2 to open up the edit window, and go to the patch 
browser.  The odd thing is, before Main Stage loads my concert file/session, 
it tells me that the Steinway piano as well as some kind of piano and base 
(probably a split patch,) is missing, then I can cancel or search again.  If 
I try bringing up the gran piano patch from the MS browser, then play on my 
keyboard, I get absolutely no output at all.  All the other instruments work 
perfectly.  I think that Steinway and the other patch are part of the 
Garageband Jampack sets which I have every single one of the jam pack set 
dvd's that were released.  I bought them all on EBay a while back.  Anyway, 
I could reinstall them, but I dono which one of those sets had those 
patches, so it would mean me having to install every single one of the jam 
packs again, which don't get me wrong, I definitely could do, but is there 
not an easier way to figure out what the heck is going on?  All the other 
patches seem to work perfectly.


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MouseKick for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch

[Jan Blüher, visorApps]

Dear MacVisionaries,

I would like to point your interest to my new iOS app MouseKick. It is a game, 
where you have to tap appearing mice in a cheese as fast as you can. It can be 
played by both, sighted and visually impaired users. Apart from the nice 
animation, the mice also do have their individual sounds, which guide us to the 
right position on screen. There is a training mode to learn those sounds. To 
get an impression of the MouseKick-Sounds, please watch the Trailer on YouTube 
at:

http://youtu.be/tLe4ygQA-xM

You can play various game modes, in normal or in blind mode. If you know the 
sounds, the blind mode is a bit easier to play. The app is fully accessible 
with VoiceOver.

MouseKick can be found on the App Store at:

http://AppStore.com/MouseKick

Additional information can be found on the support web site at:

http://visorApps.com/MouseKick

If you have questions, hints, or comments, please contact me over the list or 
off-list at supp...@visorapps.com. Any feedback is very much appreciated.

If you like the app, please recommend it to your friends and rate it in the App 
Store.

Have fun!

Jan

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Endnote and Bookends

[Nicholas Parsons]

HI,

Has anyone used Endnote or Bookends on the Mac? How accessible and easy to use 
are they?

Thanks,
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Nisus Writer Pro Education Pricing

[Nicholas Parsons]

HI all,

I just discovered shortly after purchasing Nisus Writer Pro that they offer 
education pricing on their website. Essentially you just need an email address 
from an academic institution. It's really very simple to do (I just tested it). 
It's available from the following link:
http://nisus.com/pro/edu.php

The price is $39, which is cheaper than their regular licence and much cheaper 
than the version in the Mac App Store. It's also cheaper than the current 
promotion on MacUpdate.com. It does say that it's not eligible for update or 
promotional pricing though.

Seems like a great price for any students or teachers who want to purchase 
Nisus Writer Pro.

Cheers,
Nic

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Disable auto speak pass code VoiceOver

[Krysti]

Hey is there a way to disable auto speak of pass code for VoiceOver on the 
iPhone 

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More than one iTunes account

[Krysti]

Hey can I have more Than one iTunes account authorized on my Computer at once 
my family uses it to and doesn't like my playlist when syncing with iPads 

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Re: Alex speaking oddly

[John Schucker]

So what would you recommend for 10.6.8? I'll happily purchase something 
that works, though getting to try a trial version first would help a lot 
with that. I don't notice all the weird pronunciations being mentioned, 
but I do notice Alex dropping words, e.g. while reading web pages. It's 
annoying, and if I can get a voice that doesn't do that, and doesn't 
sound horrible, I'd gladly pay for it, assuming it's not crazy 
expensive. 10.6.8 is the latest my machine can run. I keep meaning to 
grab one of the new Cepstral voices, I think they do a trial, to see how 
they'll work, but I'll take any other recommendations.


On 6/26/2013 13:21, Alex Hall wrote:
Go to the vo utility, then speech. Choose the voices tab, open the 
"default voice" popup menu, and select the "customize" option. You 
will be placed in a table with a huge variety of voices, each of which 
has a checkbox next to it. Check the voices you want, hit the download 
button, and the voices will download and install. They are huge, so it 
could take a while for this process to complete.
On Jun 26, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Christina C." > wrote:


I am running the latest OS on my mac where do I find these Nuance 
voices? Do I purchase these somewhere? I don't see these voices 
anywhere. I only see, Alex, Victoria, Bruce, Kathy, Fred, and Vicky.

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:


That's why I gave up on Alex. He sounds okay in promos or quick 
snippets, but I quickly found him to be annoying for real work. My 
personal favorites for speech are either Lee or Serena. Give those 
and the other Nuance voices a try (assuming you have 10.8) and see 
what happens.
On Jun 26, 2013, at 1:56 PM, "Christina C." > wrote:


Hmmm, one example is that in the subject line of this email, Alex 
says oddly with a distinctive H sound at the beginning like  its 
spelled HODDLY. If I spell out the last name Solden but I refer to 
the whole family as the Soldens then Alex speaks "S" it sounds like 
he actually says es with the s sound drawn out very slowly. Alex 
does all of these weird things in any environment even if I am 
typing or having voiceover read something I just typed I do not 
have caps lock on. I get an alert sound if I type in caps lock. 
Sometimes VO reads in ways that are difficult to explain. Sometimes 
it acts as if there are a weird string of characters in the middle 
of a word. Sometimes Alex just leaves letters from the beginning or 
the end of words off. I wish I could pin point the problem or the 
exact time when it happens but it's just all over the place. It's 
really annoying when I keep thinking I typed a document incorrectly 
only to find that voiceover is just reading incorrectly and it 
wastes a ton of my time.  I will try to remember more examples. I 
do notice it the most when using iMessage on my mac though.

 .
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Jun 26, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Teresa Cochran 
mailto:vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi, Christina,

Can you give an example of a mispronounced word? Are only parts of 
words being pronounced? Is Alex only mispronouncing what you type? 
This has happened to me when I have caps lock enabled. If you can 
give any examples, folks might have more of a handle on what's 
going on. :)


HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

On Jun 25, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Christina C." 
mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hello everyone,

I don't know what has been going on lately but voiceover has been 
speaking oddly and I can't seem to find any settings anywhere 
that would affect these changes. I am using the voice Alex in the 
United States. Alex will just randomly say words incorrectly   
then I will back up over the word then Alex will speak the word 
correctly but if I go forward over the word Alex speaks it 
incorrectly. I also cannot find anywhere in the settings to get 
Alex to stop reading roman numerals, particularly the letter C or 
D when it is all alone on a website, Alex will say 300 or 500 and 
it took me forever to figure out that it was actually the letter 
C or D.


Thanks for any help, I wasn't sure if I should purchase a new 
voice or something. I don't know. I really don't want to do that. 
I just want Alex fixed.



Sent from Christina's iMac :)


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Re: Announcing the Beta of Talking Dashboard

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Alex,
Can we please have a script to announce TimeMachine status in the next version? 
Whether it's currently backing up or not, how long until the next backup, time 
of the last backup etcetera.
Thanks.
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Re: i phone discussion

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I was a pocket PC Windows user with Mobile speak from 2008 until my HTC Touch 
PRO 2 died. Then I just went to the I phone 4. mobile Speak for Pocket Windows 
was totally different as you had to tap the 4 corners of the screen if you 
wanted something done like the date and time, I think it was at the end slide 
and double tap. 

So when I got the I phone 4 I was so glad that I didn't have to slide and do a 
series of taps to achieve things. Also, with the Windows mobile Pocket I was 
unable to use the virtual keyboard. But learning the keyboard on the I phone 
was difficult at first. I found that If Touch typing was turned on it was 
easier. But it was fantastic, I didn't have to do things several times to get 
things working on the I phone.

Kawal.

On 27 Jun 2013, at 12:05 AM, shane christenson  wrote:

> Hi everyone. From the point of view of someone who's a gadget freak, 
> admittedly, the whole touch screen idea was a little weird to me, but I have 
> a good friend who had 1 of the first ipod touches with voice-over, and he let 
> me play with it for about 10 minutes, and he showed me how to use thje most 
> common gestures, so, when I got my iPhone, I didn't go in blindly, (no pun 
> intended). Another thing that was a big help, was the salesman at the apple 
> store where I got the phone, who spent 3 hours with me, patiently showing me 
> skads of different things, and if he didn't know something, he looked it up, 
> and we learned together. Ever since then, i've been like a kid in a candy 
> store. Just my 2 cents, and btw, this is coming from a guy who used to be a 
> very loyal mobile speak user from 2005 until 2010.
> 
> Shane
> 
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:01 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> Karen and all:
>> 
>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>> I am happy to explain my experience.  
>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>> 
>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold by 
>> Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be necessary 
>> however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as individuals.  I 
>> find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the screen.  
>> 
>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for siri 
>> to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is the 
>> case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>> with it.
>> 
>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>> give us the steps to do this?
>> 
>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the learning 
>> curve, at least from my perspective.
>> Jean
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Anyway to turn Password off In iPhone App Store

[Brian Fischler]

Kind of something annoying that just recently started happening. I looked in 
the settings and couldn't find anything to toggle this off. Anytime I launch 
the App store on the iPhone 4s my username and password pops up, I don't want 
to buy anything I am just updating apps, and I have to hit cancel to get it to 
close. I don't need to log in to update, so why is this happening, really 
annoying. Thanks

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