Re: Voice Updates in the mac App Store

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Moore
Has anyone had problems with the new Daniel voice? After my Mac reporting that 
version 3.5 of the voice was available, I installed.  nOW Daniel is silent.  I 
tried unchecking the voice in Voice over utility in the hope it would uninstall 
in case it was corrupt.  No joy there, so I went into the system folder and 
removed the Daniel voice (and most of the old novelty voices too).  I then went 
back into the VO utility and selected Daniel again.  The voice started 
downloading.  

Still no success though, as every time  I try to select the voice or even 
preview the voice, there is no sound.  I am back to using Alex, but I must 
admit I quite like the two new American female voices also.

I took a look at Oliver, the new British male voice, but was not impressed.
.  Has Tom gone?

I hope someone can suggest a solution to my Daniel problem.

I will fire off an email to Apple.

Thanks 

Chris 


On 23 Oct 2013, at 07:41, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 I have a few of the Nuance voices installed, and when checking for updates in 
 the mac App Store, I see there are updates for all of them.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
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Re: Regarding clean installs…

2013-10-24 Thread Nicholas Parsons
If you have some corrupted system files or preferences somewhere, these might 
get copied over in the normal upgrade process. If, however, you do a clean 
install, you'll have a clean, pristine operating system free from those 
corrupted files. This might resolve problems you were previously experiencing. 
So long as your system is running well before upgrading, therefore, there's 
little benefit to a clean install. In fact, it's an inconvenience. If you've 
got plenty of time to set up a new OS, though, a clean install might also help 
you reduce clutter as you could only install apps that you actually use. I'm 
sure like most of us you have apps and things you once installed but which you 
never really use.=

On 24/10/2013, at 12:35 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

What's the advantage of needing to do that as opposed to simply doing an 
upgrade?
On Oct 22, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:

 Hi
 A clean install is OSX with nothing. Only Maverick for example. All the 
 settings have to be done again. Like VO settings. Then you probably can do a 
 restore from backup of different apps. Not sure if it works on a clean 
 install. Music, photos, documents should not be a problem to 
 restore from a backup on a clean install.
 
 Take care
 
 23. okt. 2013 kl. 03:09 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi all,
 What is this about a clean install? I have a 320gb external drive doing 
 nothing and have never used Time Machine. Should I do a backup onto that 
 first, given that I also have Crashplan? Ho, exactly, does one do a clean 
 install without losing all installed apps (and more importantly, non-App 
 Store activations, app preferences, system settings, and so on)? Id did not 
 do a clean install going from 10.7 to 10.8, so should I worry about doing so 
 now? Any information would be great. Thank you.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Updating to Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Nicholas Parsons
You might also like the book Take Control of Upgrading to Mavericks, which 
explains in detail the process of upgrading to Mavericks from Snow Leopard.

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RE: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 23 Messages in 11 Topics

2013-10-24 Thread simon . cavendish

According to vmware website, maverick requires fusion 6. 
-original message-
Subject: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 23 Messages in 11 Topics
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: 23/10/2013 10:19 pm

=
Today's Topic Summary
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Group: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

  - Can't Make a OSX 10.9 Bootdisk [6 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/f5a19ee057677c28
  - Very Stupid Pages question [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/4058f64de64bcf2a
  - Humanware displays under Mavericks [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/99a40eb6c8391cda
  - can't download Mavericks... [2 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/50059384a05bdcc
  - I Pad Air. [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/773f119bbd284bcc
  - [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays. [2 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/22254215dac8d847
  - Confirmation Of A VO Bug [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/82fbcf99b2ad3d9e
  - Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/a074e154cd8d1f0
  - Can't e-mail Pages file after upgrade [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/67fa8f9bc7052e30
  - unread badge in Mail not right and not updating [2 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/6a370d9e9c98a0cd
  - Fusion5 under Mavericks? [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/799e376298c33319


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Topic: Can't Make a OSX 10.9 Bootdisk
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/t/f5a19ee057677c28
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-- 1 of 6 --
From: Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com
Date: Oct 23 03:05PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/msg/e9b338a4b8e0b96c

Hi,
The new Mavricks OS, I can't seem to make a boot disk of.
The install image is 5.31GB, but yet when I use LionDiskMaker or a program 
within the install image called createinstallmedia, both methods failed.
I learned about the createinsallmedia program here
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/10/22/perform-clean-install-os-x-mavericks/
I used the same USB flash drive I used for the latest updates of MountainLion.
An error I got was that a file in the install image was missing, but I don't 
understand why, as it was downloaded at least twice.


-- 2 of 6 --
From: Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk
Date: Oct 23 09:23PM +0100
Url: /group/macvisionaries/msg/9fd726ff6b6a209e

Hello,

A quick search on the web will give you the solution. I've copied the command 
but not the URL:

Basically, use disk utility to format a 8Gb or higher USB stick or SD. It has 
just worked for me. I copied the command from the file and pasted it in a 
terminal. I'm just about to install cleanly. It worked for me but do it at your 
own risk.


Then:

Run this in terminal and wait about 20 minutes:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ 
Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

You should see something like this:

Erasing Disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 100%...
Copying installer files to disk...
Copy complete.
Making disk bootable...
Copying boot files...
Copy complete.
Done.

You can then boot up from the USB by holding down the option key, then install 
the GM from the USB.


Note that this will also install a recovery partition (which osxdaily's method 
doesn't do).
Last edited by tywebb13; Oct 4, 2013 at 08:04 PM.
  
Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!




-- 3 of 6 --
From: Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com
Date: Oct 23 03:37PM -0500
Url: /group/macvisionaries/msg/972c084bd0090a6e

That's the exact command I did. For some reason it said that it's creating the 
install disk, then a few minutes later, it says that it failed.


-- 4 of 6 --
From: Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk
Date: Oct 23 09:40PM +0100
Url: /group/macvisionaries/msg/8d83e846a4d8213a

Hello,

Well it worked for me. I guess you need to move  it from /Applications and see 
if the app store will let you download it again.



-- 5 of 6 --
From: Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk
Date: Oct 23 09:42PM +0100
Url: /group/macvisionaries/msg/ce53a158c2d797a1

Hello,

Just thought you didn't confirm that you formatted a USB storage device in the 
right format?

Gena


-- 6 of 6 --
From: Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com
Date: Oct 23 04:17PM 

Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.


Now, let me take a look and see what happened.

Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the dictation 
actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word period in.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the word 
 full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. To 
 my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I thought I 
 might need to start saying period or using other American words or phrases 
 but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it depend 
 on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? Also, 
 even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word period 
 in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a difficult period 
 for many people, or What class do you have next period?
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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In which case, might I suggest that we are not the best recipients of your 
message.  Try here writing to:

accessibil...@apple.com

And, might I also suggest that you catch more flies with honey?


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Sincerely,
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On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 the tone is an indication of my level of frustration since this update went 
 in this morning. Before this, I had minor issues that could be worked around. 
 Not so with this update. Being forced to restart my macbook because of a 
 browser issue is entirely unacceptable. I expect stuff like this in the 
 development product (Webkit) but not in a finished release to market product.
 
 If you find my attitude a bit strong, I apologize for that. I am normally a 
 lot more patient about things, but having 3 projects I was working on get 
 dumped (and losing about a days worth of work) tends to put a fine edge on my 
 anger.
 
 anyway, I hope someone over at the development team looks at this and 
 realizes how bad this just got.
 
 -eric
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
 
 I'm sure I'd hurry up after a message tone like that. 
 
 When Safari is fixed perhaps google  negotiation skills and effective 
 communication skills. 
 
 Good luck. 
 
 
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 2:32 pm, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
 issues have developed.
 
 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on 
 some other pages.
 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
 text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
 
 also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
 search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
 
 there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
 VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link 
 in new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
 
 Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari to 
 work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both to 
 work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas resulted in 
 voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on CMD-F5.
 
 THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
 immediately.
 
 As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
 frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
 
 You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
 lists.
 
 Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
 
 -eric
 
 
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Re: Voice Updates in the mac App Store

2013-10-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Nope.  Tom is still around.


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built-in!

Sincerely,
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone had problems with the new Daniel voice? After my Mac reporting 
 that version 3.5 of the voice was available, I installed.  nOW Daniel is 
 silent.  I tried unchecking the voice in Voice over utility in the hope it 
 would uninstall in case it was corrupt.  No joy there, so I went into the 
 system folder and removed the Daniel voice (and most of the old novelty 
 voices too).  I then went back into the VO utility and selected Daniel again. 
  The voice started downloading.  
 
 Still no success though, as every time  I try to select the voice or even 
 preview the voice, there is no sound.  I am back to using Alex, but I must 
 admit I quite like the two new American female voices also.
 
 I took a look at Oliver, the new British male voice, but was not impressed.
 .  Has Tom gone?
 
 I hope someone can suggest a solution to my Daniel problem.
 
 I will fire off an email to Apple.
 
 Thanks 
 
 Chris 
 
 
 On 23 Oct 2013, at 07:41, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 I have a few of the Nuance voices installed, and when checking for updates 
 in the mac App Store, I see there are updates for all of them.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
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RE: Voice Updates in the mac App Store

2013-10-24 Thread Jesus Garcia
Are the new voices only for 10.9 or can they be used with ML? If yes how do
you get to them?

  _  

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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Nope.  Tom is still around. 


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! 

On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote:


Has anyone had problems with the new Daniel voice? After my Mac reporting
that version 3.5 of the voice was available, I installed.  nOW Daniel is
silent.  I tried unchecking the voice in Voice over utility in the hope it
would uninstall in case it was corrupt.  No joy there, so I went into the
system folder and removed the Daniel voice (and most of the old novelty
voices too).  I then went back into the VO utility and selected Daniel
again.  The voice started downloading.   

Still no success though, as every time  I try to select the voice or even
preview the voice, there is no sound.  I am back to using Alex, but I must
admit I quite like the two new American female voices also.

I took a look at Oliver, the new British male voice, but was not impressed.
.  Has Tom gone?

I hope someone can suggest a solution to my Daniel problem.

I will fire off an email to Apple.

Thanks 

Chris 


On 23 Oct 2013, at 07:41, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:


I have a few of the Nuance voices installed, and when checking for updates
in the mac App Store, I see there are updates for all of them.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ 

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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-24 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

Apple have changed the way in which these installers work. A simple web search 
will tell you this. If the USB stick is Untitled and been formatted in Mac's OS 
X format then in a terminal type:


sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ 
Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

You should see something like this:

Erasing Disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 100%...
Copying installer files to disk...
Copy complete.
Making disk bootable...
Copying boot files...
Copy complete.
Done.

You can then boot up from the USB by holding down the option key, then install 
the GM from the USB.

This is probably going to be the same for the public release.

Note that this will also install a recovery partition (which osxdaily's method 
doesn't do).

On 24 Oct 2013, at 05:11, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:

 Hi. I was actually able to download it using our old beat up white mac
 book. i downloaded the latest version of disk maker x but after I
 select mavericks, I get a message saying system event dialogue needs
 attention but command tabbing doesn't show a dialogue box. disk maker
 x just sits with no windows and then a few minutes later, i get an
 apple event timeout message and I can quit the application.
 
 has anybody else experienced this? I've got the mavericks installer in
 the applications olfder and I've formatted my eight gig flash drive
 following the instructions on their site.
 
 When I have some time tomorrow, I'm going to check their FAQ in more detail...
 
 In the meantime, any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/23/13, matthew dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Look in the apps folder.  HTH.
 
 
 matthew dyer
 sent from my 27 inch iMac.
 
 
 
 facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
 
 Skype: graduater2004
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
 luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
 clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
 progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
 the OK button.
 
 now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
 downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
 and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
 machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cameron.
 
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-24 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your 
/Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.

Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.

HTH

Gena
On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:

 Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications folder.
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 On 10/23/13, Angelo a.rock...@gmail.com wrote:
 try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you put
 in your password
 Angelo
 a.rock...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
 luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
 clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
 progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
 the OK button.
 
 now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
 downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
 and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
 machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: I Pad Air.

2013-10-24 Thread Scott B.

Go up to www.apple.com and listen to the video on it.


On 10/24/2013 04:57, Krysti wrote:

What is the iPad air

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com 
mailto:kawa...@me.com wrote:


So what did people think of the I Pad Air? Would people buy it if 
they had the money? Do you all think this will change the Tabllet 
competition? I'm just curious as to people's thoughts.


Kawal.

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Re: Number of Messages in mail Conversation as the first column?

2013-10-24 Thread Teresa Cochran
My sighted husband tried with the physical mouse as well as the trackpad, and 
it won’t budge. I’ve pretty much resigned myself to it, and I’m paying a lot 
more attention to subject lines as a result. :) There’s one useful thing, 
though. If you interact with the message info in the message list, you can not 
only move within each column, i.e. subjects, dates, etc., but to the last 
column, which contains the message number.

HtH,
teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Oct 24, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
wrote:

 Hi!
 If I remember right you might be able to do this with a trackpad!
 I'm not sure how it works with voiceover but you can find the columns headers 
 with the trackpad and somehow move there order whilst there!
 Cannot be done by keyboard I do not think!
 A sighted person can drag them into a new order!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:37, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 I’m using Mail in Mavericks. I’m probably in the minority, but I prefer to 
 have the number of messages in a conversation as the first column. this way, 
 I don’t delete 50 messages when I think I’m deleting 1. How can i rearrange 
 the columns so it’s the first one instead of the last?
 
 Thanks,
 teresa
 
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Re: Voice Updates in the mac App Store

2013-10-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I’m pretty sure their only for 10.9.

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Jesus Garcia jesusga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are the new voices only for 10.9 or can they be used with ML? If yes how do 
 you get to them?
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 05:17
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Voice Updates in the mac App Store
 
 Nope.  Tom is still around.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone had problems with the new Daniel voice? After my Mac reporting 
 that version 3.5 of the voice was available, I installed.  nOW Daniel is 
 silent.  I tried unchecking the voice in Voice over utility in the hope it 
 would uninstall in case it was corrupt.  No joy there, so I went into the 
 system folder and removed the Daniel voice (and most of the old novelty 
 voices too).  I then went back into the VO utility and selected Daniel 
 again.  The voice started downloading.  
 
 Still no success though, as every time  I try to select the voice or even 
 preview the voice, there is no sound.  I am back to using Alex, but I must 
 admit I quite like the two new American female voices also.
 
 I took a look at Oliver, the new British male voice, but was not impressed.
 .  Has Tom gone?
 
 I hope someone can suggest a solution to my Daniel problem.
 
 I will fire off an email to Apple.
 
 Thanks 
 
 Chris 
 
 
 On 23 Oct 2013, at 07:41, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 I have a few of the Nuance voices installed, and when checking for updates 
 in the mac App Store, I see there are updates for all of them.
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Re: Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

before, and still now, VO command F brought you to pop up boxes and buttons 
rather quickly.

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On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ed -
 Although I can sympathize with your frustration with having combo boxes/popup 
 buttons mixed in the b quick key, it is also a reason to celebrate since it 
 was not possible that I could find to quickly navigate to a popup 
 button/combo box before.  This was equally as frustrating to me.  I haven’t 
 experimented with this yet but any way to quickly navigate to them is better 
 than no way at all.  Maybe I was just missing something before since I am a 
 very new user.  I would like a way to move to these elements separately.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari.
 
 In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle 
 through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, 
 submit etc.  However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what 
 Windows calls combo boxes).  Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose 
 they are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Jamie Pauls
I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word period 
at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit manually to 
insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the word 
 full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. To 
 my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I thought I 
 might need to start saying period or using other American words or phrases 
 but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it depend 
 on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? Also, 
 even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word period 
 in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a difficult period 
 for many people, or What class do you have next period?
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Christine Grassman
That is bizarre. This is still happening to me. I just tried it again. Is 
anyone else experiencing this?
On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word period 
 at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit manually to 
 insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it depend 
 on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? Also, 
 even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word period 
 in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a difficult 
 period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
 Cheers,
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Christine Grassman
I’m not using Siri, just straight dictation.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word period 
 at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit manually to 
 insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it depend 
 on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? Also, 
 even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word period 
 in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a difficult 
 period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
 Cheers,
 Nic
 
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Christine Grassman
When I said “period” in other contexts before this update, it would put the 
symbol in, and I had to write in the word.  Now it never puts in the symbol 
unless I say “full stop”. Again, this is straight dictation, though, not Siri.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word period 
 at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit manually to 
 insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it depend 
 on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? Also, 
 even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word period 
 in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a difficult 
 period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
 Cheers,
 Nic
 
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Christine Grassman
Are you using Siri or straight dictation?  If straight dictation, why on earth 
is this happening only to me — at least, I haven’t seen posts from anyone else 
having this issue.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.
 
 
 Now, let me take a look and see what happened.
 
 Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the 
 dictation actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word period 
 in.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it depend 
 on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? Also, 
 even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word period 
 in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a difficult 
 period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

Could it be possible that your using the U.K. keyboard?  To the left of the 
space bar, do you have a next keyboard button?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you using Siri or straight dictation?  If straight dictation, why on 
 earth is this happening only to me — at least, I haven’t seen posts from 
 anyone else having this issue.
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.
 
 
 Now, let me take a look and see what happened.
 
 Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the 
 dictation actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word period 
 in.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it 
 depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? 
 Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word 
 period in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a 
 difficult period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I was using my Mac, and therefore, straight dictation.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you using Siri or straight dictation?  If straight dictation, why on 
 earth is this happening only to me — at least, I haven’t seen posts from 
 anyone else having this issue.
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.
 
 
 Now, let me take a look and see what happened.
 
 Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the 
 dictation actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word period 
 in.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it 
 depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? 
 Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word 
 period in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a 
 difficult period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
 Cheers,
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Re: Number of Messages in mail Conversation as the first column?

2013-10-24 Thread Alex Hall
One other thing I have discovered is that for a read message, the date appears 
before the subject. If the messages not read, but it appears after the subject. 
It is not perfect, but it at least gives me an indication of red status.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 My sighted husband tried with the physical mouse as well as the trackpad, and 
 it won’t budge. I’ve pretty much resigned myself to it, and I’m paying a lot 
 more attention to subject lines as a result. :) There’s one useful thing, 
 though. If you interact with the message info in the message list, you can 
 not only move within each column, i.e. subjects, dates, etc., but to the last 
 column, which contains the message number.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 If I remember right you might be able to do this with a trackpad!
 I'm not sure how it works with voiceover but you can find the columns 
 headers with the trackpad and somehow move there order whilst there!
 Cannot be done by keyboard I do not think!
 A sighted person can drag them into a new order!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:37, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 I’m using Mail in Mavericks. I’m probably in the minority, but I prefer to 
 have the number of messages in a conversation as the first column. this 
 way, I don’t delete 50 messages when I think I’m deleting 1. How can i 
 rearrange the columns so it’s the first one instead of the last?
 
 Thanks,
 teresa
 
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Group signup mystery solved?

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Blouch
I keep getting emails from folks that they can't sign up for the mailing 
list so I took a poke around in the settings. There was one called Join 
the Group which was set to Only Invited Guests. Not sure exactly what 
that means but it didn't seem right. I have now changed it to Anyone 
can ask, which sounds more like what we wanted. The only other option 
was Public which is just asking for spam. Hopefully that is the root 
cause of the signup issues. Not sure how that got changed since it used 
to work fine. I have been manually adding folks as the 
requests/complaints came in but we shouldn't be having folks jumping 
through hoops like that.


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Re: Group signup mystery solved?

2013-10-24 Thread Alex Hall
Wonderful, I will pass the news along. Thank you for your help.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 I keep getting emails from folks that they can't sign up for the mailing list 
 so I took a poke around in the settings. There was one called Join the 
 Group which was set to Only Invited Guests. Not sure exactly what that 
 means but it didn't seem right. I have now changed it to Anyone can ask, 
 which sounds more like what we wanted. The only other option was Public 
 which is just asking for spam. Hopefully that is the root cause of the signup 
 issues. Not sure how that got changed since it used to work fine. I have been 
 manually adding folks as the requests/complaints came in but we shouldn't be 
 having folks jumping through hoops like that.
 
 CB
 
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Re: Prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Blouch
Please forward the email address of anyone you know who has tried and 
failed to join the group to me. I'll get them set up. As I mentioned in 
an earlier message it seems that one of the settings for joining got 
changed to 'invite only' and I have now put this back. It's still not a 
public group where anyone can post but at least the join request stuff 
should now work again. I'm not really the moderator as far as content, 
I'm just trying to help out Cara with handling the registration stuff. I 
suspect public message boards don't require you to have logged in to 
gain the Subscribe button but then they require a lot more diligence 
from the moderators to weed out spam. As it is now, this list is only 
accessible to smart persistent people :)


CB

On 10/23/13 2:03 AM, Helena Fehr wrote:

Hi! I think I've joined other google groups before, that I later decided to unsubscribe 
from, and I don't think I had to have a google account to do this. I think when I 
subscribed, it just told me an address where I was supposed to send an email to with the 
subject of subscribe me or something, and it worked. That group also had a moderator 
though, so I'm assuming this one does too, the moderator being the person who actually 
started the group. Would anyone potentially wanting to subscribe not just be able to find 
out who that is, email the person, and say I want to subscribe but I can't because 
of such and such an error I get, and then ask the moderator to subscribe them?
Hope this helps!

God Bless!!!
Helena

May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
(Numbers 6;24)

In Jesus' Name.
Amen

Helena Fehr
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Attachment and email in Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Arthur Minniti
Dears,
When i receive a mail with attachment , i don’t know how to open and save it 
using voiceover with Mavericks.
Is anybody know how to do it? do I need change some settings?
TKS
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-24 Thread Cameron Strife
The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
in case anybody was curious.

Cameron.




On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 Hello,

 Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
 /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.

 Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.

 HTH

 Gena
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:

 Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
 folder.

 Any other suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Cameron.



 On 10/23/13, Angelo a.rock...@gmail.com wrote:
 try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
 put
 in your password
 Angelo
 a.rock...@gmail.com



 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com
 wrote:

 Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
 luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
 clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
 progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
 the OK button.

 now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
 downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
 and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
 machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.

 Any suggestions?

 Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?

 Thanks,

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audio hijack pro and safari problem under mavericks.

2013-10-24 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hi list. 
Can someone else duplicate this problem?
I am trying to hijack audio from safari, let’s say from youtube, but hijack pro 
gives me an error message on some process that can not be found.
I am running mavericks.

Regards.
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Re: audio hijack pro and safari problem under mavericks.

2013-10-24 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

There is problem with AHP and safari right now. Rogue Amoeba is working on a 
fix, and it will be out as soon as possible. As long as you don’t highjack from 
safari, Audio Highjack Pro will work correctly.

On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi list. 
 Can someone else duplicate this problem?
 I am trying to hijack audio from safari, let’s say from youtube, but hijack 
 pro gives me an error message on some process that can not be found.
 I am running mavericks.
 
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
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RE: vmware fusion

2013-10-24 Thread wayne17a
Yes you will need a windows disc or a iso image but it has to be a
install disc not a upgrade disc or it will not work if I am wrong I am sorry
but I could not install from a upgrade disc but ms tech support sorted it
for me hope this helps 

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Subject: Re: vmware fusion

Hi Don,

Yes. To create a virtual machine with Vmware fusion,or to bootcamp your hard
drive, you will need a copy of Windows.
rachel 
On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:58 PM, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'I'm thinking of getting fusion or maybe installing bootcamp and I have a
auestion which I think applies to both.
 
 Do you also need to have and install a copy of windows?  
 Thanks for any clarification on this,
 
 Don
 
 
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Re: audio hijack pro and safari problem under mavericks.

2013-10-24 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hi there.
Ok, glad to hear that. 
I know they care about these problems and they are trying. 
I just wanted to make sure that I am not alone. smile 

Later.
Nektarios.

On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 There is problem with AHP and safari right now. Rogue Amoeba is working on a 
 fix, and it will be out as soon as possible. As long as you don’t highjack 
 from safari, Audio Highjack Pro will work correctly.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list. 
 Can someone else duplicate this problem?
 I am trying to hijack audio from safari, let’s say from youtube, but hijack 
 pro gives me an error message on some process that can not be found.
 I am running mavericks.
 
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Christine Grassman
No; it’s on the US English keyboard. Good thought, though. :)
On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Could it be possible that your using the U.K. keyboard?  To the left of the 
 space bar, do you have a next keyboard button?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are you using Siri or straight dictation?  If straight dictation, why on 
 earth is this happening only to me — at least, I haven’t seen posts from 
 anyone else having this issue.
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.
 
 
 Now, let me take a look and see what happened.
 
 Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the 
 dictation actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word 
 period in.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since 
 Siri could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used 
 the word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 
 7 I switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new 
 voices. To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full 
 stop. I thought I might need to start saying period or using other 
 American words or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my 
 Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if 
 Siri can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it 
 depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language 
 setting? Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used 
 the word period in other contexts? For instance, The great depression 
 was a difficult period for many people, or What class do you have next 
 period?
 Cheers,
 Nic
 
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Re: vmware fusion

2013-10-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Yes you need a full version of Windows. I'm installing Windows 8 this week end 
so I hope it works well with NDVA once I've updated !Mavericks. 

Kawal.

Sent from my I phone

 On 24 Oct 2013, at 04:12 pm, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Yes you will need a windows disc or a iso image but it has to be a
 install disc not a upgrade disc or it will not work if I am wrong I am sorry
 but I could not install from a upgrade disc but ms tech support sorted it
 for me hope this helps 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:21 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: vmware fusion
 
 Hi Don,
 
 Yes. To create a virtual machine with Vmware fusion,or to bootcamp your hard
 drive, you will need a copy of Windows.
 rachel 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:58 PM, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'I'm thinking of getting fusion or maybe installing bootcamp and I have a
 auestion which I think applies to both.
 
 Do you also need to have and install a copy of windows?  
 Thanks for any clarification on this,
 
 Don
 
 
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Re: audio hijack pro and safari problem under mavericks.

2013-10-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

It’s actually a little more than just Safari.  The instant on component needs 
to be updated a long with audio hijack pro.  so until they put out an update, 
you can’t hijack sessions already open or, hijack system audio.  The same holds 
true for Nicecast.

hth

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there.
 Ok, glad to hear that. 
 I know they care about these problems and they are trying. 
 I just wanted to make sure that I am not alone. smile 
 
 Later.
 Nektarios.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There is problem with AHP and safari right now. Rogue Amoeba is working on a 
 fix, and it will be out as soon as possible. As long as you don’t highjack 
 from safari, Audio Highjack Pro will work correctly.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list. 
 Can someone else duplicate this problem?
 I am trying to hijack audio from safari, let’s say from youtube, but hijack 
 pro gives me an error message on some process that can not be found.
 I am running mavericks.
 
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
A lot of the busy issues were fixed in mountain lion, you may want to 
update your operating system.

Original message:
The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
issues have developed.


1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on 
some other pages.
2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to 
enter text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.


also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).


there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open 
link in new tab or page) don't more than half the time.


Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and 
Safari to work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to 
get both to work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve 
captchas resulted in voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to 
restart on CMD-F5.


THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
immediately.


As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).


You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related 
mailing lists.



Please take care of this, POST HASTE!



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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi,
Unfortunately, Eric can't upgrade to ML, but I think he can to Mavricks. Didn't 
Tim cook say that its possible even on Snow leopard?

Matt Dierckens
matt.dierck...@gmail.com
Assistive Technology Trainer
IOS and Macintosh User support
Windsor area


On 2013-10-24, at 11:24 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 A lot of the busy issues were fixed in mountain lion, you may want to update 
 your operating system.
 Original message:
 The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
 issues have developed.
 
 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on some 
 other pages.
 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
 text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
 
 also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
 search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
 
 there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
 VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link in 
 new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
 
 Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari to 
 work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both to 
 work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas resulted in 
 voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on CMD-F5.
 
 THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
 immediately.
 
 As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
 frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
 
 You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
 lists.
 
 Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
 
 -eric
 
 
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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-24 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Matt,

If Eric's computer is too old to take Mountain Lion, it won't take Mavericks. 
It isn't a question of the existing OS but the hardware of the machine.

Cheers,

Anne


On 24 Oct 2013, at 17:28, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Unfortunately, Eric can't upgrade to ML, but I think he can to Mavricks. 
 Didn't Tim cook say that its possible even on Snow leopard?
 
 Matt Dierckens
 matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 Assistive Technology Trainer
 IOS and Macintosh User support
 Windsor area
 
 
 On 2013-10-24, at 11:24 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 A lot of the busy issues were fixed in mountain lion, you may want to update 
 your operating system.
 Original message:
 The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
 issues have developed.
 
 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on 
 some other pages.
 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
 text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
 
 also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
 search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
 
 there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
 VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link 
 in new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
 
 Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari to 
 work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both to 
 work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas resulted in 
 voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on CMD-F5.
 
 THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
 immediately.
 
 As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
 frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
 
 You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
 lists.
 
 Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
 
 -eric
 
 
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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi Anne.
Thanks for clarifying. :)

Matt Dierckens
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Assistive Technology Trainer
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On 2013-10-24, at 11:39 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Matt,
 
 If Eric's computer is too old to take Mountain Lion, it won't take Mavericks. 
 It isn't a question of the existing OS but the hardware of the machine.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 17:28, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Unfortunately, Eric can't upgrade to ML, but I think he can to Mavricks. 
 Didn't Tim cook say that its possible even on Snow leopard?
 
 Matt Dierckens
 matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 Assistive Technology Trainer
 IOS and Macintosh User support
 Windsor area
 
 
 On 2013-10-24, at 11:24 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 A lot of the busy issues were fixed in mountain lion, you may want to 
 update your operating system.
 Original message:
 The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
 issues have developed.
 
 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on 
 some other pages.
 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
 text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
 
 also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
 search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
 
 there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
 VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link 
 in new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
 
 Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari 
 to work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both 
 to work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas 
 resulted in voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on 
 CMD-F5.
 
 THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
 immediately.
 
 As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
 frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
 
 You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
 lists.
 
 Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
 
 -eric
 
 
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About VO language support for new OS

2013-10-24 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello all:
I saw or read somewhere that now VoiceOver had language support, to read words 
in their own language. Is this true? Where can we fid it?
Thanks!

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Finally, option-up/down in Mail works!

2013-10-24 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
In OS10.9’s Mail app, you can finally use option-up to jump to the start of a 
message list, and option-down to jump to the end! This is something I’ve been 
waiting for for a long time, and I figured out about an hour ago that it works 
in Maverix. Enjoy.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

2013-10-24 Thread Teresa Cochran
Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus with Gmail 
and Mail. basically, the “all mail” folder gets placed in the archive folder, 
and it’s necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the website. 
Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a show-stopper. If 
you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels from the Gmail site, 
and you’d have to set up local rules for filtering messages in apple Mail. 
Also, you can’t move Gmail folders in apple mail.

Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I’m on, and I sync my mail with my 
iPod, I’m going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do, do *not* go 
into the “all mail” folder on your devices if you sync with them, because a 
huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have something like twenty 
thousand messages in my ‘all mail” folder.

you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just thought 
I’d clarify things just a tad. I hope it’s clarified, at any rate. :)

HtH,
Teresa

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Re: audio hijack pro and safari problem under mavericks.

2013-10-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Funny, I thought that they were all ready for 10.9.  I also thought I saw 
earlier this year that they are working on a new killer version of Audio Hijack 
Pro which is supposed to be really revolutionary with respect to the interfase 
and so on.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 It’s actually a little more than just Safari.  The instant on component needs 
 to be updated a long with audio hijack pro.  so until they put out an update, 
 you can’t hijack sessions already open or, hijack system audio.  The same 
 holds true for Nicecast.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 Ok, glad to hear that. 
 I know they care about these problems and they are trying. 
 I just wanted to make sure that I am not alone. smile 
 
 Later.
 Nektarios.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There is problem with AHP and safari right now. Rogue Amoeba is working on 
 a fix, and it will be out as soon as possible. As long as you don’t 
 highjack from safari, Audio Highjack Pro will work correctly.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list. 
 Can someone else duplicate this problem?
 I am trying to hijack audio from safari, let’s say from youtube, but 
 hijack pro gives me an error message on some process that can not be found.
 I am running mavericks.
 
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
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Re: Finally, option-up/down in Mail works!

2013-10-24 Thread Paul Henrichsen
I must be doing something wrong as it's not working for me with regard to 
jumping to the top or bottom of the list of messages.
.
Option up or down doesn't seem to do anything for me.

On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 In OS10.9’s Mail app, you can finally use option-up to jump to the start of a 
 message list, and option-down to jump to the end! This is something I’ve been 
 waiting for for a long time, and I figured out about an hour ago that it 
 works in Maverix. Enjoy.
 
 
 Have a great day,
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Re: Group signup mystery solved?

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Blouch
Just approved one join request so at least one person has figured it out 
now :)


CB

On 10/24/13 10:44 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

Wonderful, I will pass the news along. Thank you for your help.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:


I keep getting emails from folks that they can't sign up for the mailing list so I took a poke around in the settings. 
There was one called Join the Group which was set to Only Invited Guests. Not sure exactly what 
that means but it didn't seem right. I have now changed it to Anyone can ask, which sounds more like what 
we wanted. The only other option was Public which is just asking for spam. Hopefully that is the root cause 
of the signup issues. Not sure how that got changed since it used to work fine. I have been manually adding folks as 
the requests/complaints came in but we shouldn't be having folks jumping through hoops like that.

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Re: audio hijack pro and safari problem under mavericks.

2013-10-24 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

No, some apps only have parcial compatibility with 10.9 at this time. They’ve 
set up a status page on www.rogueamoeba.com that details the status of all 
their apps and 10.9.

On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 Funny, I thought that they were all ready for 10.9.  I also thought I saw 
 earlier this year that they are working on a new killer version of Audio 
 Hijack Pro which is supposed to be really revolutionary with respect to the 
 interfase and so on.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 It’s actually a little more than just Safari.  The instant on component 
 needs to be updated a long with audio hijack pro.  so until they put out an 
 update, you can’t hijack sessions already open or, hijack system audio.  The 
 same holds true for Nicecast.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 Ok, glad to hear that. 
 I know they care about these problems and they are trying. 
 I just wanted to make sure that I am not alone. smile 
 
 Later.
 Nektarios.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There is problem with AHP and safari right now. Rogue Amoeba is working on 
 a fix, and it will be out as soon as possible. As long as you don’t 
 highjack from safari, Audio Highjack Pro will work correctly.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list. 
 Can someone else duplicate this problem?
 I am trying to hijack audio from safari, let’s say from youtube, but 
 hijack pro gives me an error message on some process that can not be 
 found.
 I am running mavericks.
 
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
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Re: Apps Opening Very Slowly in mavericks; Anyone Else Experience This?

2013-10-24 Thread Terje Strømberg
Hi

If you do a clean install, can you post your findings here? If it is any 
difference in boot time of Apps.

Is the OSX Maverick boot time from power off to entering desktop also slower 
compared to the boot time in Mountain Lion? 

Take care

24. okt. 2013 kl. 02:04 skrev Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com:

 Apps seem clunky when opening for me too with the 2013 Macbook Air. 
 Definitely slower than with Mountain Lion.  I may have to do a clean install.
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:19 AM, May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I noticed this as well and I have a macbook aire 2013.
 
 May and Prince Noah
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I’m using an upgrade from Mountain lion on a late 2009 Mac Mini with 4GB 
 ram. The specs indicate that i should be ok to use this, but i notice that 
 apps are taking at least twenty seconds to open. I might be mis-estimating 
 the time, but I certainly notice the slower load times. Anyone else have 
 this issue?
 
 Teresa
 
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reading with ibooks on mavericks?

2013-10-24 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi everyone,
I updated to mavericks yesterday and am happy with it mostly  (mail especially 
works better).
I tried ibooks and although i can find some books in the  store (by entering a 
search keyword) buy them and open them reading the actual book still seems a 
bit difficult.
I can do it with the item chooser but then i cant do anything else.
Can you read it normally and how can you turn pages?
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Apps Opening Very Slowly in mavericks; Anyone Else Experience This?

2013-10-24 Thread Alex Hall
I find that the time it takes to awaken from sleep has drastically increased. I 
talked to Apple Support today and they confirmed the problem, so Apple does 
know about it. I’m really, really looking forward to the incremental update to 
10.9.
On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 If you do a clean install, can you post your findings here? If it is any 
 difference in boot time of Apps.
 
 Is the OSX Maverick boot time from power off to entering desktop also slower 
 compared to the boot time in Mountain Lion? 
 
 Take care
 
 24. okt. 2013 kl. 02:04 skrev Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com:
 
 Apps seem clunky when opening for me too with the 2013 Macbook Air. 
 Definitely slower than with Mountain Lion.  I may have to do a clean install.
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:19 AM, May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I noticed this as well and I have a macbook aire 2013.
 
 May and Prince Noah
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I’m using an upgrade from Mountain lion on a late 2009 Mac Mini with 4GB 
 ram. The specs indicate that i should be ok to use this, but i notice that 
 apps are taking at least twenty seconds to open. I might be mis-estimating 
 the time, but I certainly notice the slower load times. Anyone else have 
 this issue?
 
 Teresa
 
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how to save attachments on a Mack

2013-10-24 Thread Becky Sabo
Hi all,

I have been having trouble saving attachments on my Mack when people send me
items.  How do I go about saving attachments on my Mack any help would be
good.

Thanks 

Becky Sabo 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Solving captures on a mac?

 

You can get Rumola from:

http://skipinput.com

It's a Safari extension. It fills in CAPTCHAs automatically for you. There's
a trial version and then I think it's something ridiculously cheap like 99
cents for 99 solutions. I've never had to top up since installing it so now
I can't remember. :)

Best,

Nic

 

On 24/10/2013, at 1:37 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 

Please tell me Nick where to get that from?

 

Kawal.

Sent from my I phone


On 23 Oct 2013, at 03:36 pm, Nicholas Parsons
mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:

I use Rumola to solve CAPTCHAs. It's fantastic.

On 23/10/2013, at 11:00 AM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear List,
How do you solve captures
on a mac?
On my PC I use Firefox and Webvisum.
I  have not received my ordered  macbook yet, but I wanted to know the
answer.
I also would like to know if any of you are using the password app called
Keepass on a mac?

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
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email problems

2013-10-24 Thread alia robinson
Okay, when I am reading email and more comes in VO is interupted to say ‘three 
rows added’ or however much mail I got, and focus is taking away from the body 
of my email. I get a lot of long mail, and this is a huge problem. Also having 
the issue where vo-J doesn’t focus the email on text, and I have to do it more 
than once. Not loving this upgrade much especially for mail. 

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What happened to Spotlight?

2013-10-24 Thread Christine Grassman
No matter what I search for, Spotlight is telling me “no items”. How do I fix 
this, or did it change somehow with Mavericks?
Christine

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Reading iBooks on Mac with Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Helena Fehr
I've found that if you have your trackpad turned on, and you have it set up so 
that it works with voiceover instead of having it like a normal mouse, if you 
swipe down on the track pad with two fingers, it'll read one whole chapter of 
an ibook at a time. Then to go to the next chapter, you press 
Command-Shift-Right arrow. Also, you can go Vo-M for menu, and then right arow 
to the go menu, and then arrow down until you hear go to next chapter and enter 
on it, and it'll do it too. As far as if you only want to read a single page at 
a time, you would access it just like you do with pages by interacting with the 
scroll area, and then it'll say epub.1 or something, and each epub thing like 
that, I think is another page, so then you just interact with those, and you 
can then swipe down with two fingers with them and get VoiceOver to read the 
whole thing or VO-right arrow so it reads line by line I think. I've also found 
out that let's say you're on Skype, but you want to read a book while you're 
waiting to receive a message from someone, you can press control to pause 
VoiceOver from reading the ibook, then switch to your Skype app, or whatever, 
to do whateveryou want, and then go back to the ibooks app and press control 
and it'll continue reading to teh end of that page. Then you put two fingers at 
teh top of your trackpad and swipe down, and it'll continue reading. I don't 
know if there's a say all or read-to-the-bottom-of-the-document command for 
VoiceOver using the keyboard, so I don't know how this would work with iMacs, 
or Macs that don't have a trackPad. I don't know if you could use a normal 
mouse for these things.
Hope this helps!
As for mail and attachments, and saving attachments in emails, I don't know how 
to do that either, so if someone could let me know, that would be great, cause 
I do this a lot since I'm in school, so I can get people to send me stuff to 
braille out and stuff like that, so if osmeone could let me know, that would be 
great. You can even jsut email me, and then that way I don't have to scroll 
through the entire Mac Visionarries email to find out jsut taht one thing. 
THanks!


God Bless!!!
Helena

May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
(Numbers 6;24)

In Jesus' Name.
Amen

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Re: What happened to Spotlight?

2013-10-24 Thread Richard Ring
It’s working as it always did here.


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 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 No matter what I search for, Spotlight is telling me “no items”. How do I fix 
 this, or did it change somehow with Mavericks?
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Jamie Pauls
That is exactly what I am doing. Very strange.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’m not using Siri, just straight dictation.
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word 
 period at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit 
 manually to insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it 
 depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? 
 Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word 
 period in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a 
 difficult period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
 Cheers,
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Re: Reading iBooks on Mac with Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Anouk Radix
Thanks a lot that helps!
I do have a macbook air with trackpad.
I mostly use a braille display so will defenitely look into the interacting 
with epub to se eif that will get me different pages.
Greetings, Anouk,
On 24 Oct 2013, at 20:12, Helena Fehr helena.torch.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've found that if you have your trackpad turned on, and you have it set up 
 so that it works with voiceover instead of having it like a normal mouse, if 
 you swipe down on the track pad with two fingers, it'll read one whole 
 chapter of an ibook at a time. Then to go to the next chapter, you press 
 Command-Shift-Right arrow. Also, you can go Vo-M for menu, and then right 
 arow to the go menu, and then arrow down until you hear go to next chapter 
 and enter on it, and it'll do it too. As far as if you only want to read a 
 single page at a time, you would access it just like you do with pages by 
 interacting with the scroll area, and then it'll say epub.1 or something, and 
 each epub thing like that, I think is another page, so then you just interact 
 with those, and you can then swipe down with two fingers with them and get 
 VoiceOver to read the whole thing or VO-right arrow so it reads line by line 
 I think. I've also found out that let's say you're on Skype, but you want to 
 read a book while you're waiting to receive a message from someone, you can 
 press control to pause VoiceOver from reading the ibook, then switch to your 
 Skype app, or whatever, to do whateveryou want, and then go back to the 
 ibooks app and press control and it'll continue reading to teh end of that 
 page. Then you put two fingers at teh top of your trackpad and swipe down, 
 and it'll continue reading. I don't know if there's a say all or 
 read-to-the-bottom-of-the-document command for VoiceOver using the keyboard, 
 so I don't know how this would work with iMacs, or Macs that don't have a 
 trackPad. I don't know if you could use a normal mouse for these things.
 Hope this helps!
 As for mail and attachments, and saving attachments in emails, I don't know 
 how to do that either, so if someone could let me know, that would be great, 
 cause I do this a lot since I'm in school, so I can get people to send me 
 stuff to braille out and stuff like that, so if osmeone could let me know, 
 that would be great. You can even jsut email me, and then that way I don't 
 have to scroll through the entire Mac Visionarries email to find out jsut 
 taht one thing. THanks!
 
 
 God Bless!!!
   Helena
 
 May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
 you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
 (Numbers 6;24)
 
 In Jesus' Name.
 Amen
 
 Helena Fehr
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Season passes

2013-10-24 Thread krysti
How do they work? And does iTunes charge tax?

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Re: email problems

2013-10-24 Thread Edward Green
Hi Alia,

Go into System Preferences, interact with the preference pains scroll area, 
choose Notification Centre, interact with the table and choose mail.

Then set the alert style to none by clicking on the relevant radio button.

This should fix it.

Cheers,

Ed
On 24 Oct 2013, at 19:02, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, when I am reading email and more comes in VO is interupted to say 
 ‘three rows added’ or however much mail I got, and focus is taking away from 
 the body of my email. I get a lot of long mail, and this is a huge problem. 
 Also having the issue where vo-J doesn’t focus the email on text, and I have 
 to do it more than once. Not loving this upgrade much especially for mail. 
 
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OSX Maverix feature list

2013-10-24 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
The accessibility part is interesting.
http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html

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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-24 Thread eric oyen
thats not physically possible for me. my mac is 1 revision too old to support 
mountain lion. I have looked into doing a mod or 2 in order to shoehorn ML on 
here. It would be nice to have some extra money to buy a newer mac, but that is 
not in the cards at present.

-eric

On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

 A lot of the busy issues were fixed in mountain lion, you may want to update 
 your operating system.
 Original message:
 The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
 issues have developed.
 
 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on some 
 other pages.
 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
 text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
 
 also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
 search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
 
 there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
 VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link in 
 new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
 
 Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari to 
 work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both to 
 work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas resulted in 
 voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on CMD-F5.
 
 THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
 immediately.
 
 As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
 frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
 
 You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
 lists.
 
 Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
 
 -eric
 
 
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Re: reading with ibooks on mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread BBS
Hi Anouk. I don’t think you have to turn pages, as with the book I’m reading it 
looks like the entire chapter is on the screen. To go to a chapter, press 
Command+Shift+Left and right arrow keys. HTH.

Shawn
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Re: how to save attachments on a Mack

2013-10-24 Thread Edward Green
Hi Becky,

If you definitely want to save them, go into the file menu and choose save 
attachments.

If you just need to access them from the message, command y may be enough for 
you.

Cheers,

Ed
On 24 Oct 2013, at 19:01, Becky Sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have been having trouble saving attachments on my Mack when people send me 
 items.  How do I go about saving attachments on my Mack any help would be 
 good.
 Thanks
 Becky Sabo
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Nicholas Parsons
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:50 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Solving captures on a mac?
  
 You can get Rumola from:
 http://skipinput.com
 It's a Safari extension. It fills in CAPTCHAs automatically for you. There's 
 a trial version and then I think it's something ridiculously cheap like 99 
 cents for 99 solutions. I've never had to top up since installing it so now I 
 can't remember. :)
 Best,
 Nic
  
 On 24/10/2013, at 1:37 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
  
 Please tell me Nick where to get that from?
  
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my I phone
 
 On 23 Oct 2013, at 03:36 pm, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I use Rumola to solve CAPTCHAs. It's fantastic.
 
 On 23/10/2013, at 11:00 AM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear List,
 How do you solve captures
 on a mac?
 On my PC I use Firefox and Webvisum.
 I  have not received my ordered  macbook yet, but I wanted to know the answer.
 I also would like to know if any of you are using the password app called 
 Keepass on a mac?
 
 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
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Re: Voice Updates in the mac App Store

2013-10-24 Thread BBS
Hi Chris. Sounds like a restart is in order for you. I ran into the same 
problem as you did and I found that a simple reboot did the trick. Hope that 
solves your problem, and talking about Daniel, I wasn’t impressed with his HQ 
voice sample. It sounds like he made him more robotic than ever.

Shawn
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BootDisk Creation Somewhat Works for OSX 10.9 Using Disk Maker X

2013-10-24 Thread Daniel C
Hi,
I created a boot disk with Disk maker x for OSx 10.9, and for some reason, the 
disk doesn't show up under startup disk.
It gave no errors or anything, yet it says the disk creation was successful. 
Any ideas as to this?

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Re: email problems

2013-10-24 Thread alia robinson
Hey, 

thanks for the suggestion, but I already have it off in notifications. It’s not 
a notification thing; it’s from the apple mail itsself telling me I’m getting 
mail It has always said “two rows added” or whatever it says, but never when I 
had focus on text reading it. I have my mail set to none in notifications. I do 
appreciate the suggestion though. 

alia
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 Hi Alia,
 
 Go into System Preferences, interact with the preference pains scroll area, 
 choose Notification Centre, interact with the table and choose mail.
 
 Then set the alert style to none by clicking on the relevant radio button.
 
 This should fix it.

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Garageband 10 questions

2013-10-24 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello all:
I am playing with GB 10 and, doe’s anybody know how to edit sounds or place 
effects? (reverb, compressors, etc)? I just can’t go over it.
Also, do smart controls work somehow with VO?
thank you for your ideas.

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Re: email problems

2013-10-24 Thread Edward Green
Hi Alia,

Sorry it didn’t work, Turning it off in Notification Centre solved it for me.

If you’re running Mountain Lion or higher, the other thing you could try is to 
go into Mail, Preferences, General, and limit notifications to VIPs (it’s set 
to Inbox only by default).  You could then simply not add anyone to your VIP 
list and you shouldn’t get any notifications.  However, this obviously won’t 
work if you use your VIP list.

Hope that works.

Ed
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 Hey, 
 
 thanks for the suggestion, but I already have it off in notifications. It’s 
 not a notification thing; it’s from the apple mail itsself telling me I’m 
 getting mail It has always said “two rows added” or whatever it says, but 
 never when I had focus on text reading it. I have my mail set to none in 
 notifications. I do appreciate the suggestion though. 
 
 alia
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 Hi Alia,
 
 Go into System Preferences, interact with the preference pains scroll area, 
 choose Notification Centre, interact with the table and choose mail.
 
 Then set the alert style to none by clicking on the relevant radio button.
 
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Re: Voice Updates in the mac App Store

2013-10-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
Is anybody having an error message when trying to download a voice which says 
“voices cannot be downloaded at this time, try again later”.
I’ve had this for about a day now which seems a little long for a server error.
Thanks.

Lisette

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 Hi Chris. Sounds like a restart is in order for you. I ran into the same 
 problem as you did and I found that a simple reboot did the trick. Hope that 
 solves your problem, and talking about Daniel, I wasn’t impressed with his HQ 
 voice sample. It sounds like he made him more robotic than ever.
 
 Shawn
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Re: Finally, option-up/down in Mail works!

2013-10-24 Thread Traci Duncan
To add to this…

You can now use option-shift up or down arrow to select multiple messages from 
the top or bottom.  Thank goodness!  I’ve been wanting this as well for a long 
time.  Lol!

Traci
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 Hi all,
 In OS10.9’s Mail app, you can finally use option-up to jump to the start of a 
 message list, and option-down to jump to the end! This is something I’ve been 
 waiting for for a long time, and I figured out about an hour ago that it 
 works in Maverix. Enjoy.
 
 
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Re: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.

2013-10-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I am using the braille edge via bluetooth on mavericks with so far no problem 
that I can tell. It was already paired before the upgrade in case that makes a 
difference.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Oct 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I am forwarding this to warn those of you who may be impacted by this issue. 
 it sounds like anyone using him as Braille  display may not wish to upgrade 
 to Mavericks. 
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Jenny Axler hims.je...@gmail.com
 Date: October 23, 2013 at 2:12:02 PM CDT
 To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.
 Reply-To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com
 
 Attention Mac users:
 I am writing to inform you that we have discovered that the new Mavericks OS 
 update breaks Bluetooth connectivity for HIMS Braille sense and Braille EDGE 
 via VoiceOver.
 We are sorry for the inconvenience, however, unfortunately, there is nothing 
 we can do as it is a problem in the Mac OS.
 If you are an affected Mac user, you may write to Apple’s accessibility team 
 at:
 accessibility @apple.com
 I’m sorry for the disappointing news,
 Jenny
  
 
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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-24 Thread eric oyen
I may have to try mavericks to see what its like. from what I hear though, the 
email subsystem might cause me problems with gmail.

anyway, I will DL it and see what I can see.

-eric

On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

 Hi,
 Unfortunately, Eric can't upgrade to ML, but I think he can to Mavericks. 
 Didn't Tim cook say that its possible even on Snow leopard?
 
 Matt Dierckens
 matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 Assistive Technology Trainer
 IOS and Macintosh User support
 Windsor area
 
 
 On 2013-10-24, at 11:24 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 A lot of the busy issues were fixed in mountain lion, you may want to update 
 your operating system.
 Original message:
 The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
 issues have developed.
 
 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on 
 some other pages.
 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
 text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
 
 also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
 search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
 
 there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
 VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link 
 in new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
 
 Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari to 
 work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both to 
 work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas resulted in 
 voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on CMD-F5.
 
 THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
 immediately.
 
 As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
 frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
 
 You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
 lists.
 
 Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
 
 -eric
 
 
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Re: Finally, option-up/down in Mail works!

2013-10-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup.

It was something that was broke in Lion.  I’m happy to see this functionality 
return.

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 To add to this…
 
 You can now use option-shift up or down arrow to select multiple messages 
 from the top or bottom.  Thank goodness!  I’ve been wanting this as well for 
 a long time.  Lol!
 
 Traci
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 In OS10.9’s Mail app, you can finally use option-up to jump to the start of 
 a message list, and option-down to jump to the end! This is something I’ve 
 been waiting for for a long time, and I figured out about an hour ago that 
 it works in Maverix. Enjoy.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Fwd: Mavericks info on LifeHacker.com

2013-10-24 Thread Donna Goodin
 Hi all,

Here are the articles on Mavericks that I mentioned earlier.  With all this, I 
think I’m going to hold off for a while.
  
 http://lifehacker.com/should-i-upgrade-to-os-x-mavericks-1449627553
 and
 http://lifehacker.com/how-to-fix-os-x-mavericks-biggest-annoyances-1450220339
  
 Best,
 Donna

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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-24 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello Cameron,

Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command does? 
All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called create 
install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB stick is 
located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on /Volumes? Was your 
USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to have different installers 
for target platforms.

HTH

Gena

Gena

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On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:

 The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
 in case anybody was curious.
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 
 On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
 /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
 
 Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:
 
 Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
 folder.
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 On 10/23/13, Angelo a.rock...@gmail.com wrote:
 try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
 put
 in your password
 Angelo
 a.rock...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having no
 luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
 clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
 progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
 the OK button.
 
 now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
 downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
 and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
 machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cameron.
 
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Re: Finally, option-up/down in Mail works!

2013-10-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Option up and down doesn’t work for me, but option shift up and down does. Are 
you using classic view or standard view?
Lisette

On 25/10/2013, at 10:38 am, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yup.
 
 It was something that was broke in Lion.  I’m happy to see this functionality 
 return.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 To add to this…
 
 You can now use option-shift up or down arrow to select multiple messages 
 from the top or bottom.  Thank goodness!  I’ve been wanting this as well for 
 a long time.  Lol!
 
 Traci
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 In OS10.9’s Mail app, you can finally use option-up to jump to the start of 
 a message list, and option-down to jump to the end! This is something I’ve 
 been waiting for for a long time, and I figured out about an hour ago that 
 it works in Maverix. Enjoy.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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successful Braille tweak

2013-10-24 Thread Ben van Poppel
Hi all.

I do a lot of reading and writing of .brf’s directly from the display, either 
music or my own brand of literary Braille which is at about grade seven these 
days. The dot 456 combination is always tricky since it gets represented in 
computer Braille for embossing as an underscore, but received wisdom seems to 
be that underscore should get dot 7 added to it for refreshable Braille. On the 
Mac it was particularly annoying because if you forget and just hit dot456, you 
end up entering a delete character, as I’m sure others have found out to their 
cost. Anyway, this morning I had enough and tracked down the US 8 dot Braille 
table, which I’d always assumed would be embedded in a Duxbury .btb file. As it 
happens it’s just a plain plist in 
/System/Library/ScreenReader/BrailleTables/Duxbury.brailletable/Contents/Resources.
 After swapping the entries for 456 and 4567, I can now directly enter an 
underscore with 456 and so can write brf files in my editor of choice.

Other people might have already discovered this, but as it’s a fix for what a 
Braille nerd like me found an annoying quirk, I thought I’d report my success 
with it anyway.

Cheers.
Ben

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Went back to Mountain Kitty

2013-10-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys
I had so many problems I had to go back to mountain kitty. They weren't just 
with my braille display, which I reported is doing fine yesterday. However, 
today I couldn't even navigate properly in TextEdit. I couldn't even tell what 
I'd selected to the end of the text didn't tell me. I was getting too many 
finder busy messages also, and I couldn't always navigate and tell where I was.

I had to call that 877 number, and he is checking for me.

Regards and a little stressed, but this is computers were talking about,
Gigi
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Re: Finally, option-up/down in Mail works!

2013-10-24 Thread Angelo
Hi, for me to jump to the  top  or bottom of the in box I use option+command, 
the option key just  takes me to the beginning  or end of a message row. quick 
nab is off,  and I am in classic mode.
hth

Angelo
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 In OS10.9’s Mail app, you can finally use option-up to jump to the start of a 
 message list, and option-down to jump to the end! This is something I’ve been 
 waiting for for a long time, and I figured out about an hour ago that it 
 works in Maverix. Enjoy.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Interesting Bug With The Mac App Store In Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread BBS
Hi guys. Have any of you noticed that Voiceover automatically interacts with 
the toolbar when you launch the Mac App Store rather than automatically 
interacting with the HTML content? I know there’s probably nothing we can do 
about it, but just thought I’d ask to see if it’s not just me.

Shawn
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Re: Interesting Bug With The Mac App Store In Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Sure thing.  When i go to check for updates, this is exactly what happens to me.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 24, 2013, at 7:38 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys. Have any of you noticed that Voiceover automatically interacts with 
 the toolbar when you launch the Mac App Store rather than automatically 
 interacting with the HTML content? I know there’s probably nothing we can do 
 about it, but just thought I’d ask to see if it’s not just me.
 
 Shawn
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-24 Thread Cameron Strife
Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.

Cameron.



On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 Hello Cameron,

 Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
 does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called
 create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
 stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
 /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
 have different installers for target platforms.

 HTH

 Gena

 Gena

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 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!


 On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:

 The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
 in case anybody was curious.

 Cameron.




 On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 Hello,

 Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
 /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.

 Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.

 HTH

 Gena
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com
 wrote:

 Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
 folder.

 Any other suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Cameron.



 On 10/23/13, Angelo a.rock...@gmail.com wrote:
 try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
 put
 in your password
 Angelo
 a.rock...@gmail.com



 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
 came...@cameronstrife.com
 wrote:

 Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having
 no
 luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
 clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
 progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
 the OK button.

 now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
 downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
 and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
 machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.

 Any suggestions?

 Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?

 Thanks,

 Cameron.

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Re: successful Braille tweak

2013-10-24 Thread Teresa Cochran
Wow, ben. So this means that you could edit a braille table for any keystroke 
you wish to modify?

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Ben van Poppel benvanpop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.
 
 I do a lot of reading and writing of .brf’s directly from the display, either 
 music or my own brand of literary Braille which is at about grade seven these 
 days. The dot 456 combination is always tricky since it gets represented in 
 computer Braille for embossing as an underscore, but received wisdom seems to 
 be that underscore should get dot 7 added to it for refreshable Braille. On 
 the Mac it was particularly annoying because if you forget and just hit 
 dot456, you end up entering a delete character, as I’m sure others have found 
 out to their cost. Anyway, this morning I had enough and tracked down the US 
 8 dot Braille table, which I’d always assumed would be embedded in a Duxbury 
 .btb file. As it happens it’s just a plain plist in 
 /System/Library/ScreenReader/BrailleTables/Duxbury.brailletable/Contents/Resources.
  After swapping the entries for 456 and 4567, I can now directly enter an 
 underscore with 456 and so can write brf files in my editor of choice.
 
 Other people might have already discovered this, but as it’s a fix for what a 
 Braille nerd like me found an annoying quirk, I thought I’d report my success 
 with it anyway.
 
 Cheers.
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aggregate audio device not working?

2013-10-24 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I have always heard of people using Soundflower or Audio Hijack plus 
microphones through the magic of aggregate audio devices. I have never been 
able to get them to work, however. For now, I just want my USB microphone and 
my line-in port to act as one device, so I can record both sources 
simultaneously. My mic works fine in recordings, but the line-in is silent. 
This has never worked for me under Mountain Lion, and still does not work in 
Maverix. I have both devices selected in the devices table of my aggregate, but 
the mic is the only device that works. Does anyone have any suggestions? I’m 
really getting tired of this not working correctly… Thanks in advance for any 
ideas.


Have a great day,
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Re: successful Braille tweak

2013-10-24 Thread Ben van Poppel
Up to a point Teresa. If you’re viewing in contracted Braille, or viewing in 
uncontracted and 8-dot isn’t switched on, then the grade one and two rules seem 
to come from the Duxbury tables, and I’ve never figured out if it’s possible to 
play with those. But yeah, it’s possible to change the representation of any 
character in the 8-dot table. A cool side-effect I discovered was to map dot7 
to delete (127) and dot 8 to return (10). That way, at least if 8-dot is 
active, you can use them for normal backspace and return keys like in JFW.


On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:36 pm, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, ben. So this means that you could edit a braille table for any keystroke 
 you wish to modify?
 
 Teresa
 
 On the other hand, there are different fingers.
 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Ben van Poppel benvanpop...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I do a lot of reading and writing of .brf’s directly from the display, 
 either music or my own brand of literary Braille which is at about grade 
 seven these days. The dot 456 combination is always tricky since it gets 
 represented in computer Braille for embossing as an underscore, but received 
 wisdom seems to be that underscore should get dot 7 added to it for 
 refreshable Braille. On the Mac it was particularly annoying because if you 
 forget and just hit dot456, you end up entering a delete character, as I’m 
 sure others have found out to their cost. Anyway, this morning I had enough 
 and tracked down the US 8 dot Braille table, which I’d always assumed would 
 be embedded in a Duxbury .btb file. As it happens it’s just a plain plist in 
 /System/Library/ScreenReader/BrailleTables/Duxbury.brailletable/Contents/Resources.
  After swapping the entries for 456 and 4567, I can now directly enter an 
 underscore with 456 and so can write brf files in my editor of choice.
 
 Other people might have already discovered this, but as it’s a fix for what 
 a Braille nerd like me found an annoying quirk, I thought I’d report my 
 success with it anyway.
 
 Cheers.
 Ben
 
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Re: BootDisk Creation Somewhat Works for OSX 10.9 Using Disk Maker X

2013-10-24 Thread Mitchell Smith
Hi,

The easiest approach to make a bootable USB for 10.9 is in your terminal.

Open up a terminal prompt and do something like the following.

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\
Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume
/Volumes/USB --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\
Mavericks.app


You need to change /Volumes/USB to the correct volume name for your
USB drive, USB just happens to be the name I gave mine when I
formatted it in disk utility.



On 10/25/13, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I created a boot disk with Disk maker x for OSx 10.9, and for some reason,
 the disk doesn't show up under startup disk.
 It gave no errors or anything, yet it says the disk creation was successful.
 Any ideas as to this?

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Re: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.

2013-10-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
I was doing okay with my braille Edge?,  in fact I told HIMS  that it was doing 
just fine. Then I had serious issues with text edit this morning, and thought 
maybe my braille display was the culprit. Then I took the braille display off, 
thinking it might help. Smart me! I tried to put it back on and forget it. It 
thought I had a braille edge 11, and it refused to pair. No surprise there 
right? And boy did I start having trouble with TextEdit navigating thanks, 
Nunneley TextEdit but everything else too. That was when we decided that I 
needed to go back to mountain kitty.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am using the braille edge via bluetooth on mavericks with so far no problem 
 that I can tell. It was already paired before the upgrade in case that makes 
 a difference.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I am forwarding this to warn those of you who may be impacted by this issue. 
 it sounds like anyone using him as Braille  display may not wish to upgrade 
 to Mavericks. 
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Jenny Axler hims.je...@gmail.com
 Date: October 23, 2013 at 2:12:02 PM CDT
 To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.
 Reply-To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com
 
 Attention Mac users:
 I am writing to inform you that we have discovered that the new Mavericks 
 OS update breaks Bluetooth connectivity for HIMS Braille sense and Braille 
 EDGE via VoiceOver.
 We are sorry for the inconvenience, however, unfortunately, there is 
 nothing we can do as it is a problem in the Mac OS.
 If you are an affected Mac user, you may write to Apple’s accessibility 
 team at:
 accessibility @apple.com
 I’m sorry for the disappointing news,
 Jenny
  
 
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Re: BootDisk Creation Somewhat Works for OSX 10.9 Using Disk Maker X

2013-10-24 Thread Daniel C
Already tried that. Maybe I'm wondering if it's better i upgrade to the new OS, 
then try and create a boot disk from there.

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Re: Humanware displays under Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Alex Hall
well, I am writing this on my Apex. All seems to be working normally for now, 
though I do not often use braille with os10. The other nice thing is that you 
can have the same grade 2 translation routine on the Mac that you have in iOS7. 
That is where the Mac will not translate what you type until you press space, 
or space-4-5. The down side to this is that you cannot see the word you are 
typing as you type it, only after you hit  space. Overall, though, everything 
seems to be working well with Humanware displays, at least the Apex. If it 
matters, I am using a Bluetooth connection.
On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys.
 Does anyone using a HumanWare display with Mavericks know if they've messed 
 up accessibility? I have yet to update, but I'm seeing all these bugs. 
 Probably going to wait until 10.9.1 comes out.
 Matt Dierckens
 matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 Assistive Technology Trainer
 IOS and Macintosh User support
 Windsor area
 
 
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Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

2013-10-24 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. Some of it 
isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for instance, All Mail 
doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, Mail kind of gets 
rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like gmail on the web, 
there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. Messages get given 
labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have, which act much 
like folders only different. Rather than me trying to explain, interested 
people are better off reading the following article:
http://tidbits.com/article/14219

Best,
Nic


On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus with Gmail 
and Mail. basically, the “all mail” folder gets placed in the archive folder, 
and it’s necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the website. 
Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a show-stopper. If 
you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels from the Gmail site, 
and you’d have to set up local rules for filtering messages in apple Mail. 
Also, you can’t move Gmail folders in apple mail.

Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I’m on, and I sync my mail with my 
iPod, I’m going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do, do *not* go 
into the “all mail” folder on your devices if you sync with them, because a 
huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have something like twenty 
thousand messages in my ‘all mail” folder.

you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just thought 
I’d clarify things just a tad. I hope it’s clarified, at any rate. :)

HtH,
Teresa

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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-24 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Does it have something to do with your language setting? The VoiceOver 
language, the global iPhone language or the Siri language? Do you have all 
three set to US English?

On 25/10/2013, at 5:23 AM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

That is exactly what I am doing. Very strange.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’m not using Siri, just straight dictation.
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word 
 period at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit 
 manually to insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since Siri 
 could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used the 
 word full stop and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 7 I 
 switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new voices. 
 To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full stop. I 
 thought I might need to start saying period or using other American words 
 or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if Siri 
 can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it 
 depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language setting? 
 Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used the word 
 period in other contexts? For instance, The great depression was a 
 difficult period for many people, or What class do you have next period?
 Cheers,
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Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

2013-10-24 Thread May and Noah
Hmm, guess I’m lucky. I’m not having any problems with gmail and mavericks, but 
this is definitely an email I’ll keep in case something changes and I need this 
at a future date.

Thanks.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. Some of 
 it isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for instance, All 
 Mail doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, Mail kind of 
 gets rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like gmail on the 
 web, there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. Messages get 
 given labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have, which act 
 much like folders only different. Rather than me trying to explain, 
 interested people are better off reading the following article:
 http://tidbits.com/article/14219
 
 Best,
 Nic
 
 
 On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus with 
 Gmail and Mail. basically, the “all mail” folder gets placed in the archive 
 folder, and it’s necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the 
 website. Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a 
 show-stopper. If you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels 
 from the Gmail site, and you’d have to set up local rules for filtering 
 messages in apple Mail. Also, you can’t move Gmail folders in apple mail.
 
 Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I’m on, and I sync my mail with 
 my iPod, I’m going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do, do 
 *not* go into the “all mail” folder on your devices if you sync with them, 
 because a huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have something 
 like twenty thousand messages in my ‘all mail” folder.
 
 you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just thought 
 I’d clarify things just a tad. I hope it’s clarified, at any rate. :)
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
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Re: email problems

2013-10-24 Thread Nicholas Parsons
I don't think it's a notification thing at all. What if you press command O on 
the messages you want to read? This way it opens in a new window and so 
VoiceOver shouldn't announce any new rows added.

On 25/10/2013, at 7:03 AM, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Alia,

Sorry it didn’t work, Turning it off in Notification Centre solved it for me.

If you’re running Mountain Lion or higher, the other thing you could try is to 
go into Mail, Preferences, General, and limit notifications to VIPs (it’s set 
to Inbox only by default).  You could then simply not add anyone to your VIP 
list and you shouldn’t get any notifications.  However, this obviously won’t 
work if you use your VIP list.

Hope that works.

Ed
On 24 Oct 2013, at 20:48, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, 
 
 thanks for the suggestion, but I already have it off in notifications. It’s 
 not a notification thing; it’s from the apple mail itsself telling me I’m 
 getting mail It has always said “two rows added” or whatever it says, but 
 never when I had focus on text reading it. I have my mail set to none in 
 notifications. I do appreciate the suggestion though. 
 
 alia
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alia,
 
 Go into System Preferences, interact with the preference pains scroll area, 
 choose Notification Centre, interact with the table and choose mail.
 
 Then set the alert style to none by clicking on the relevant radio button.
 
 This should fix it.
 
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