Re: more issues with voiceover focus and mail

2013-11-17 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
I sometimes get this. Restarting mail always fixes these focus issues for me.

Lisette

On 18/11/2013, at 2:48 pm, alia robinson  wrote:

> my currsor tracking is on. I just checked to make sure. 
> 
> Alia
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
>> VO shift f3 toggle cursor tracking has thosd symptoms. 
> 
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RE: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices

2013-11-17 Thread Scott Erichsen
Hi Lisette,

That's interesting. The customer was using Braille Edge Firmware 1.1 and
iOS6 on an iPhone 4S or 5 I think and it would fail every time.
Once he upgraded to iOS7, all was well.

I've had no problems here so I guess some of us are lucky.
Good to know that it all worked for you.

Cheers.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
Sent: Monday, 18 November 2013 5:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices

Hi Scott,
I paired my Braille Edge fine with IOS 6. So I think it could be done.

Lisette

On 17/11/2013, at 10:25 pm, Scott Erichsen 
wrote:

> Hi
> 
> iOS 6 does not work with the Braille Edge 40.
> At least, I had a customer who couldn't get it to work.
> If they ran iOS7 the edge paired with no problem.
> 
> I have an edge here and it's working fine with both Mavericks and iOS7.
> Make sure you are running firmware 1.1 build 20130809
> Happy to help you off list with specifics to fix this.
> Cheers.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
> Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2013 1:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices
> 
> Hi again
> The braille display is a little over a year old. It really makes it
> complicated when the hardware is having trouble at the same time updates
are
> happening.
> Whoever needs this, but the tiniest terrible. I have a lot of work I have
to
> get done. I may just have to in Dewar until I have a break in the work.
> Sincerely,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Lisette Wesseling
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi There,
>> You're not going to like this, but I can pair my braille edge 40 fine
with
> my iPhone. It even held the pairing after IOS 7 update. I haven't tried to
> pair it via bluetooth with my Mac, and probably won't, but maybe there is
> something wrong with your unit's bluetooth. It pairs flawlessly with me
> every time. It was purchased quite recently. When was yours purchased?
Maybe
> they've changed something in the hardware or something.
>> 
>> very weird. Sorry you're having this trouble.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 16/11/2013, at 3:18 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> No, because I already did the latest firmware update.'s. So, it won't be
> an option until they do another one. Only problem is, some of those folks
> keep insisting there is no problem.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran

> wrote:
 
 Hi, Gigi,
 
 I don't have your Braille display model, but I had similar experiences
> with different aspects of a Focus display. It occurs to me that in my
case,
> I needed a firmware update for the Braille display. Is this an option for
> you at all? If it is, it could be a solution.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
 On the other hand, there are different fingers.
 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
> Hi Guys 
> Somebody on this list said they had trouble with their Braille Edge
40,
> so I thought I would pass along the latest in my experiences. Poor Apple
is
> just going to love this when they find out the latest because it makes my
> case a little more weird. 
> 
> The folks at HIMS kept insisting that the Braille Edge 40 would work
> with Mavericks. I wasn't sure I agreed, what with the trouble I had been
> having. I finally got the Bluetooth connection, which was my trouble to
> work, but in a strange fashion. I'll tell you guys about the iPhone in a
> minute because that's still a problem for me. 
> 
> To make the story short, when I chose to add the display, it still
came
> up with Braille Edge 0011, which HIMS said was correct, although it sounds
> strange to me. Ok fine. When I chose to pair, it failed like always. Then
it
> said Options, and when I chose it, then I got to type in the code. This
time
> it worked, whereas before it didn't. The only difference is, and this may
> explain it, I had done a hard reset on the braille display today, which I
> had not done earlier. The weird thing is that I can't pair this display
> without it failing first, at least I can't figure out how. I have never
had
> to let the pairing fail first before being asked for the code. 
> 
> The iPhone, however, is still a problem. It won't even search for the
> braille display, and I have restarted it and given it a hard reset as well
> by pressing the power key and the home key together and holding them down
> for a few seconds. So I still have a problem, but for now it's a little
> better, except the iPhone is worse. 
> 
> Gigi, signing off and saying that computers sometimes drive you crazy
> and make people think you don't know what you're doing 
> 
>

Re: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices

2013-11-17 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Scott,
I paired my Braille Edge fine with IOS 6. So I think it could be done.

Lisette

On 17/11/2013, at 10:25 pm, Scott Erichsen  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> iOS 6 does not work with the Braille Edge 40.
> At least, I had a customer who couldn't get it to work.
> If they ran iOS7 the edge paired with no problem.
> 
> I have an edge here and it's working fine with both Mavericks and iOS7.
> Make sure you are running firmware 1.1 build 20130809
> Happy to help you off list with specifics to fix this.
> Cheers.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
> Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2013 1:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices
> 
> Hi again
> The braille display is a little over a year old. It really makes it
> complicated when the hardware is having trouble at the same time updates are
> happening.
> Whoever needs this, but the tiniest terrible. I have a lot of work I have to
> get done. I may just have to in Dewar until I have a break in the work.
> Sincerely,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Lisette Wesseling
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi There,
>> You're not going to like this, but I can pair my braille edge 40 fine with
> my iPhone. It even held the pairing after IOS 7 update. I haven't tried to
> pair it via bluetooth with my Mac, and probably won't, but maybe there is
> something wrong with your unit's bluetooth. It pairs flawlessly with me
> every time. It was purchased quite recently. When was yours purchased? Maybe
> they've changed something in the hardware or something.
>> 
>> very weird. Sorry you're having this trouble.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 16/11/2013, at 3:18 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> No, because I already did the latest firmware update.'s. So, it won't be
> an option until they do another one. Only problem is, some of those folks
> keep insisting there is no problem.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran 
> wrote:
 
 Hi, Gigi,
 
 I don't have your Braille display model, but I had similar experiences
> with different aspects of a Focus display. It occurs to me that in my case,
> I needed a firmware update for the Braille display. Is this an option for
> you at all? If it is, it could be a solution.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
 On the other hand, there are different fingers.
 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
> Hi Guys 
> Somebody on this list said they had trouble with their Braille Edge 40,
> so I thought I would pass along the latest in my experiences. Poor Apple is
> just going to love this when they find out the latest because it makes my
> case a little more weird. 
> 
> The folks at HIMS kept insisting that the Braille Edge 40 would work
> with Mavericks. I wasn't sure I agreed, what with the trouble I had been
> having. I finally got the Bluetooth connection, which was my trouble to
> work, but in a strange fashion. I'll tell you guys about the iPhone in a
> minute because that's still a problem for me. 
> 
> To make the story short, when I chose to add the display, it still came
> up with Braille Edge 0011, which HIMS said was correct, although it sounds
> strange to me. Ok fine. When I chose to pair, it failed like always. Then it
> said Options, and when I chose it, then I got to type in the code. This time
> it worked, whereas before it didn't. The only difference is, and this may
> explain it, I had done a hard reset on the braille display today, which I
> had not done earlier. The weird thing is that I can't pair this display
> without it failing first, at least I can't figure out how. I have never had
> to let the pairing fail first before being asked for the code. 
> 
> The iPhone, however, is still a problem. It won't even search for the
> braille display, and I have restarted it and given it a hard reset as well
> by pressing the power key and the home key together and holding them down
> for a few seconds. So I still have a problem, but for now it's a little
> better, except the iPhone is worse. 
> 
> Gigi, signing off and saying that computers sometimes drive you crazy
> and make people think you don't know what you're doing 
> 
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Re: Finding audible books once downloaded to your computer

2013-11-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andrew,

If, like me, you have the option to open downloaded files automatically turned 
off, your Audible books will be in your Downloads folder. You can open this by 
pressing Cmd-Option-l.

Cheers,

Anne


On 17 Nov 2013, at 23:54, Andrew Head  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I saw on the audible website, you don’t need any extra download software, the 
> books will download to itunes. I haven’t tried downloading from audible on my 
> mac yet, but a friend of mine said he couldn’t find his books in the books 
> section of itunes. Would they be in the downloads section? or would they be 
> in Ibooks? I saw an update to ibooks that said your itunes books now show up 
> in IBooks. 
> kind regards,
> Andrew
> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Re: soft/sip phones for mac

2013-11-17 Thread Dean Adams
HI,
I use one called Telephone and I have found that I can be in a skype 
call and still make and receive calls with this application very cool, easy to 
setup and use all you need is your VOIP provider and your users name and 
password.

Regards Dean
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On 18 Nov 2013, at 1:30 pm, KJSC radio  wrote:

> Hi all. I was just wondering, is there any soft/sip phone software for mac? I 
> found a couple on the app store, but not accessible with VO. The reason is is 
> that I’m setting up a VPX voip server on my linux server and I would like a 
> way that I can communicate with users on my mac rather than on my server… all 
> though I think I might install one on my server just to be safe. so does 
> anyone know of any soft phone software for mac? Thanks.
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Re: New Member and a question

2013-11-17 Thread Dean Adams
Hi George,
Here is the instructions you wanted I found this in the mail archives 


Move vo to the mailbox in the favorites bar, then route the mouse 
there (vo-cmd-f5). Disable cursor tracking with vo-shift-f3, then lock 
the mouse down with vo-cmd-shift-space. Move vo to somewhere in the 
mail window that has nothing in it, like a splitter, and route the 
mouse again, then unlock the mouse button with another press of 
vo-cmd-shift-space. That should do it, but if it fails, close Mail and 
re-open it, then try again. Also, don't forget to turn cursor tracking 
back on with vo-shift-f3. 

 
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On 17 Nov 2013, at 4:39 pm, George Cham  wrote:

> Hello,
> My name is George, and I’ve just joined the group.
> I’ve been using the mac  since February this year.
> My Question is this.
> 
> How do i add or remove mailboxes from the favorites bar in apple mail in 
> mavericks using voiceover  ?
> 
> 
> George Cham
> george.c...@outlook.com
> 
> 
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Re: soft/sip phones for mac

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Durieux
Hi

TRelephone is a nice sip client for the mac, you can find it n the appstore. :)

hth


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 07:30:32PM -0700, KJSC radio wrote:
> Hi all. I was just wondering, is there any soft/sip phone software for mac? I 
> found a couple on the app store, but not accessible with VO. The reason is is 
> that I’m setting up a VPX voip server on my linux server and I would like a 
> way that I can communicate with users on my mac rather than on my server… all 
> though I think I might install one on my server just to be safe. so does 
> anyone know of any soft phone software for mac? Thanks.
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Re: radium

2013-11-17 Thread Mary Otten
Why are you VO right arrowing?
I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to the 
extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find all the 
things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are better ways of 
doing it, but that is what works for me.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps my 
>> subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> So glad it isn't just me.
>>> Thanks
>>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac and 
 I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it kicks me 
 into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info is still 
 there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that same dialogue. 
 And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if something is down on 
 Radium's end somehow. This has been working perfectly, and there have been 
 no updates that I am aware of. Very weird.
 
 Mary
 
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soft/sip phones for mac

2013-11-17 Thread KJSC radio
Hi all. I was just wondering, is there any soft/sip phone software for mac? I 
found a couple on the app store, but not accessible with VO. The reason is is 
that I’m setting up a VPX voip server on my linux server and I would like a way 
that I can communicate with users on my mac rather than on my server… all 
though I think I might install one on my server just to be safe. so does anyone 
know of any soft phone software for mac? Thanks.

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RE: Finding audible books once downloaded to your computer

2013-11-17 Thread Marcia Yale
Audible books will download into whatever folder you always use for
downloads, but iTunes will find them and read them, wherever they are. Once
the download is complete, iTunes will launch the book and you will find it
under your Books section in iTunes.

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Subject: Finding audible books once downloaded to your computer

Hi all,
I saw on the audible website, you don't need any extra download software,
the books will download to itunes. I haven't tried downloading from audible
on my mac yet, but a friend of mine said he couldn't find his books in the
books section of itunes. Would they be in the downloads section? or would
they be in Ibooks? I saw an update to ibooks that said your itunes books now
show up in IBooks. 
kind regards,
Andrew
Sent from my 11 inch macbook air

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Re: more issues with voiceover focus and mail

2013-11-17 Thread alia robinson
my currsor tracking is on. I just checked to make sure. 

Alia
On Nov 17, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> VO shift f3 toggle cursor tracking has thosd symptoms. 

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Re: more issues with voiceover focus and mail

2013-11-17 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
VO shift f3 toggle cursor tracking has thosd symptoms. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2013, at 7:42 PM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I have more serious issues coming up with mail. when I am reading a 
> message in modern layout I usually listen to the first few lines to see if I 
> want to read it. the lines are read as usual, but if I try to vo/j nothing 
> happens. I also hit delete and nothing happens. It’s like the focus isn’t 
> really where it seems to be. I have to quit mail and restart it, and it’s 
> fine for a while, then it does the same thing. If I hit command/o and open it 
> it opens as usual, but can’t be deleted or used vo/j on. also this issue is 
> seeming to happen when I do  the keystroke to go to desktop, both the one set 
> by apple, and the one I set using apple scripts. I seem to be at the desktop 
> because it says desktop, but when I tab around I am still in my folder 
> although it is reading desktop as if it sent me there. I have changed nothing 
> anywhere this just began to happen, any ideas, thoughts, anything? so 
> frustrated with mavericks at the moment. 
> 
> Alia
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more issues with voiceover focus and mail

2013-11-17 Thread alia robinson
Okay, I have more serious issues coming up with mail. when I am reading a 
message in modern layout I usually listen to the first few lines to see if I 
want to read it. the lines are read as usual, but if I try to vo/j nothing 
happens. I also hit delete and nothing happens. It’s like the focus isn’t 
really where it seems to be. I have to quit mail and restart it, and it’s fine 
for a while, then it does the same thing. If I hit command/o and open it it 
opens as usual, but can’t be deleted or used vo/j on. also this issue is 
seeming to happen when I do  the keystroke to go to desktop, both the one set 
by apple, and the one I set using apple scripts. I seem to be at the desktop 
because it says desktop, but when I tab around I am still in my folder although 
it is reading desktop as if it sent me there. I have changed nothing anywhere 
this just began to happen, any ideas, thoughts, anything? so frustrated with 
mavericks at the moment. 

Alia

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Re: uninstalling a program on the mac

2013-11-17 Thread ROBERT CARTER
Hi Don,

You can uninstall apps just by moving them to the trash. I, however, recommend 
that people purchase an app called “app delete.”
http://www.reggieashworth.com
It will uninstall the app and cleanup any unnecessary files that the app may 
have left behind.

Robert Carter


On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:10 PM, don bishop  wrote:

> I have an iphone so am used to getting apps from the app store, and I assume 
> I can install in the same way on the mac.  
> However I’d like to know how you uninstall a program on the mac if you decide 
> you  don’t want it.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
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uninstalling a program on the mac

2013-11-17 Thread don bishop
I have an iphone so am used to getting apps from the app store, and I assume I 
can install in the same way on the mac.  
However I’d like to know how you uninstall a program on the mac if you decide 
you  don’t want it.  

Thanks,
Don


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Finding audible books once downloaded to your computer

2013-11-17 Thread Andrew Head
Hi all,
I saw on the audible website, you don’t need any extra download software, the 
books will download to itunes. I haven’t tried downloading from audible on my 
mac yet, but a friend of mine said he couldn’t find his books in the books 
section of itunes. Would they be in the downloads section? or would they be in 
Ibooks? I saw an update to ibooks that said your itunes books now show up in 
IBooks. 
kind regards,
Andrew
Sent from my 11 inch macbook air

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Re: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices

2013-11-17 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hey Scott
I am running iOS 7 .4 whenever the latest thing is. I have Mavericks as well. I 
finally got Mavericks to work with my braille Edge 40  but not my iPhone. I 
have  a 5s. I have decided that I am going to eliminate mechanical difficulties 
from this equation by getting everything checked out to make sure there are no 
mechanical problems lurking here. It's going to be a few days before I can do 
this, but I think I need to do that.

By the way, my braille display worked fine with iOS 6. It worked fine with 
Mountain lion.
Regards,
Gigi 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:25 AM, Scott Erichsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> iOS 6 does not work with the Braille Edge 40.
> At least, I had a customer who couldn't get it to work.
> If they ran iOS7 the edge paired with no problem.
> 
> I have an edge here and it's working fine with both Mavericks and iOS7.
> Make sure you are running firmware 1.1 build 20130809
> Happy to help you off list with specifics to fix this.
> Cheers.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
> Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2013 1:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices
> 
> Hi again
> The braille display is a little over a year old. It really makes it
> complicated when the hardware is having trouble at the same time updates are
> happening.
> Whoever needs this, but the tiniest terrible. I have a lot of work I have to
> get done. I may just have to in Dewar until I have a break in the work.
> Sincerely,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Lisette Wesseling
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi There,
>> You're not going to like this, but I can pair my braille edge 40 fine with
> my iPhone. It even held the pairing after IOS 7 update. I haven't tried to
> pair it via bluetooth with my Mac, and probably won't, but maybe there is
> something wrong with your unit's bluetooth. It pairs flawlessly with me
> every time. It was purchased quite recently. When was yours purchased? Maybe
> they've changed something in the hardware or something.
>> 
>> very weird. Sorry you're having this trouble.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 16/11/2013, at 3:18 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> No, because I already did the latest firmware update.'s. So, it won't be
> an option until they do another one. Only problem is, some of those folks
> keep insisting there is no problem.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran 
> wrote:
 
 Hi, Gigi,
 
 I don't have your Braille display model, but I had similar experiences
> with different aspects of a Focus display. It occurs to me that in my case,
> I needed a firmware update for the Braille display. Is this an option for
> you at all? If it is, it could be a solution.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
 On the other hand, there are different fingers.
 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
> Hi Guys 
> Somebody on this list said they had trouble with their Braille Edge 40,
> so I thought I would pass along the latest in my experiences. Poor Apple is
> just going to love this when they find out the latest because it makes my
> case a little more weird. 
> 
> The folks at HIMS kept insisting that the Braille Edge 40 would work
> with Mavericks. I wasn't sure I agreed, what with the trouble I had been
> having. I finally got the Bluetooth connection, which was my trouble to
> work, but in a strange fashion. I'll tell you guys about the iPhone in a
> minute because that's still a problem for me. 
> 
> To make the story short, when I chose to add the display, it still came
> up with Braille Edge 0011, which HIMS said was correct, although it sounds
> strange to me. Ok fine. When I chose to pair, it failed like always. Then it
> said Options, and when I chose it, then I got to type in the code. This time
> it worked, whereas before it didn't. The only difference is, and this may
> explain it, I had done a hard reset on the braille display today, which I
> had not done earlier. The weird thing is that I can't pair this display
> without it failing first, at least I can't figure out how. I have never had
> to let the pairing fail first before being asked for the code. 
> 
> The iPhone, however, is still a problem. It won't even search for the
> braille display, and I have restarted it and given it a hard reset as well
> by pressing the power key and the home key together and holding them down
> for a few seconds. So I still have a problem, but for now it's a little
> better, except the iPhone is worse. 
> 
> Gigi, signing off and saying that computers sometimes drive you crazy
> and make people think you don't know what you're doing 
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Re: radium

2013-11-17 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps my 
> subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> So glad it isn't just me.
>> Thanks
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac and 
>>> I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it kicks me 
>>> into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info is still 
>>> there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that same dialogue. 
>>> And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if something is down on 
>>> Radium's end somehow. This has been working perfectly, and there have been 
>>> no updates that I am aware of. Very weird.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Byword and Markdown

2013-11-17 Thread Emilio Hernandez
;Hello everyone

For those users of Byword, who may also use Markdown, how do you cause Byword 
to render markdown syntax?
I thought pressing “command-option-P” invokes this feature, but when it places 
me into the HTML content area I do not see any change to my document created 
with markdown.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?

2013-11-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Have you looked at the advanced verbosity settings within the VO Utility?  When 
in the Verbosity pane of VO Utility, check the box for Advanced Speech 
Verbosity options, then Interact with the Table and go down the list.  You 
could change the verbosity level for specific elements to a lower level.  This 
may reduce VO’s verbosity for those sorts of elements to a level you more 
prefer.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> The two items three items thing you're hearing is most likely lists with 
> several items. Whenever VoiceOver encounters a list or sub-list, it announces 
> how many items are in the list. I agree it's overly verbose and not really 
> necessary. It's VoiceOver treating the HTML  and  tags as a separate 
> element, which it's not. I wish there was a way to make VoiceOver read a 
> paragraph or whole HTML element at a time without being interrupted by links 
> and the like. I like the way I can navigate through webpages with JAWS on 
> Internet Explorer with control down arrow — I wish there was something 
> similar with VoiceOver.
> 
> For internal links, however, it's important that VoiceOver distinguishes 
> these from ordinary links. Ordinary links take you to another webpage, 
> whereas internal links take you somewhere else on the webpage you are 
> currently on. They are usually used to navigate from the top of the page to 
> the start of the main article or substance of the page. You probably come 
> across those on many pages called skip to main internal link and the like.
> 
> Best,
> Nic
> 
> 
> On 17/11/2013, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you interact with the two items and three items things, you will 
> notice that you can see items on the page that you cannot see without 
> interacting with those items.  Not everything on the page is visible on the 
> surface look of the page.  So, if you see an item with a label on it that 
> says something like info tab with five items, and you interact with it, you 
> will notice things there that you would not see until you interact with it.  
> Why?  Much of it has to do with the way the page is written and how Voice 
> Over is seeing that code.  So, in other words, it’s not a bug, rather, it’s 
> got to do with the new designing of pages and how we interact with it.  Same 
> with the internal links.  I suspect that clicking on these internal links 
> reveals parts of the page that could not otherwise be seen.  the web is not 
> going to stand still for our benefit.  It’s changing, and, the way Voice Over 
> sees and deals with the code must change with it and, frankly, so must our 
> old and now outdated perceptions of how we understand the web.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Daniel McGee  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, with Safari, anyone no why on earth we get with Voiceover 2 items, 3 
>> items oh and lets not forget that internal link now and then.
>> 
>> I don't know if its me but these little things in Safari are starting to get 
>> on my nerves.
>> Guess you could say I'm moaning. lol 
>> 
>> Do they annoy others here. I do filter it out now and then but sometimes I 
>> wonder how these bugs creep in. 
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Re: apple working on voiceover

2013-11-17 Thread Michael Marshall
i would like to ad just one more thing.
put some options into VO so we can stop it saying one row added, i could even 
put up with a sound in sted but just not those words over and over again. 
anyone who has used ABBY fine reader will know what i’m talking about.
On 17 Nov 2013, at 9:52 pm, Peter Durieux  wrote:

> I want to append some things ;)
> - incorrect reading from url's and email addresses and files with 
> extension in some languages such as dutch, ... maybe some others
> - Trackpad bug, where you can't activite Controlcenter and spotlight by 
> double tapping on the trackpad
> - Some refreshable brailleterminals that were working fine in previous 
> version and doesn't in the new one: HandyTech bs and ...
> 
> 
>> • Make VoiceOver announce a messages read/unread status, and the number of 
>> messages in thread, before the message preview in Mail.
>> • Stop VoiceOver repeating text in nearby elements in Safari.
>> • Fix problems with column view in Finder.
>> • Label unlabelled buttons and images in iBooks.
>> 
>> On 17/11/2013, at 3:49 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> If there are any beta testers on this list for the upcoming release, the one 
>> I most hope they fix is in Safari.  Command left bracket and command left 
>> arrow go back a page but you don't land in the place where you left off.  
>> This is really annoying.
>> Jean
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what's wrong with my app store

2013-11-17 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
Hi.

When I open the app store I see the tool bar with featured purchased updates 
etc.  No matter what I do though I can’t see the html area to anything. Oh 
sometimes I do see the featured category.  Running mavericks.  thanks.  
regards
Maria and crew from australia
email:
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
check out 
www.95-the-mix.com
where we play lots of great music




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Re: apple working on voiceover

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Durieux
I want to append some things ;)
-   incorrect reading from url's and email addresses and files with 
extension in some languages such as dutch, ... maybe some others
-   Trackpad bug, where you can't activite Controlcenter and spotlight by 
double tapping on the trackpad
-   Some refreshable brailleterminals that were working fine in previous 
version and doesn't in the new one: HandyTech bs and ...


> • Make VoiceOver announce a messages read/unread status, and the number of 
> messages in thread, before the message preview in Mail.
> • Stop VoiceOver repeating text in nearby elements in Safari.
> • Fix problems with column view in Finder.
> • Label unlabelled buttons and images in iBooks.
> 
> On 17/11/2013, at 3:49 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> If there are any beta testers on this list for the upcoming release, the one 
> I most hope they fix is in Safari.  Command left bracket and command left 
> arrow go back a page but you don't land in the place where you left off.  
> This is really annoying.
> Jean
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RE: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices

2013-11-17 Thread Scott Erichsen
Hi

iOS 6 does not work with the Braille Edge 40.
At least, I had a customer who couldn't get it to work.
If they ran iOS7 the edge paired with no problem.

I have an edge here and it's working fine with both Mavericks and iOS7.
Make sure you are running firmware 1.1 build 20130809
Happy to help you off list with specifics to fix this.
Cheers.

Scott


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2013 1:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Braille Edge 40 and myApple devices

Hi again
The braille display is a little over a year old. It really makes it
complicated when the hardware is having trouble at the same time updates are
happening.
Whoever needs this, but the tiniest terrible. I have a lot of work I have to
get done. I may just have to in Dewar until I have a break in the work.
Sincerely,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Lisette Wesseling
 wrote:
> 
> Hi There,
> You're not going to like this, but I can pair my braille edge 40 fine with
my iPhone. It even held the pairing after IOS 7 update. I haven't tried to
pair it via bluetooth with my Mac, and probably won't, but maybe there is
something wrong with your unit's bluetooth. It pairs flawlessly with me
every time. It was purchased quite recently. When was yours purchased? Maybe
they've changed something in the hardware or something.
> 
> very weird. Sorry you're having this trouble.
> 
> Lisette
> 
>> On 16/11/2013, at 3:18 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there
>> No, because I already did the latest firmware update.'s. So, it won't be
an option until they do another one. Only problem is, some of those folks
keep insisting there is no problem.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran 
wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Gigi,
>>> 
>>> I don't have your Braille display model, but I had similar experiences
with different aspects of a Focus display. It occurs to me that in my case,
I needed a firmware update for the Braille display. Is this an option for
you at all? If it is, it could be a solution.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> teresa
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Guys 
 Somebody on this list said they had trouble with their Braille Edge 40,
so I thought I would pass along the latest in my experiences. Poor Apple is
just going to love this when they find out the latest because it makes my
case a little more weird. 
 
 The folks at HIMS kept insisting that the Braille Edge 40 would work
with Mavericks. I wasn't sure I agreed, what with the trouble I had been
having. I finally got the Bluetooth connection, which was my trouble to
work, but in a strange fashion. I'll tell you guys about the iPhone in a
minute because that's still a problem for me. 
 
 To make the story short, when I chose to add the display, it still came
up with Braille Edge 0011, which HIMS said was correct, although it sounds
strange to me. Ok fine. When I chose to pair, it failed like always. Then it
said Options, and when I chose it, then I got to type in the code. This time
it worked, whereas before it didn't. The only difference is, and this may
explain it, I had done a hard reset on the braille display today, which I
had not done earlier. The weird thing is that I can't pair this display
without it failing first, at least I can't figure out how. I have never had
to let the pairing fail first before being asked for the code. 
 
 The iPhone, however, is still a problem. It won't even search for the
braille display, and I have restarted it and given it a hard reset as well
by pressing the power key and the home key together and holding them down
for a few seconds. So I still have a problem, but for now it's a little
better, except the iPhone is worse. 
 
 Gigi, signing off and saying that computers sometimes drive you crazy
and make people think you don't know what you're doing 
 
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