RE: Locking a Mac

[Frank Ventura]

Tim, thanks, that is exactally what I needed to know.
Frank

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Locking a Mac

Hi Frank,

Two ways you can deal with this.  First, in the Security & Privacy pane in 
System Prefs, make sure that the checkbox for requiring a password after Sleep 
or Screensaver is checked.  This behaviour is normally on by default in 
Mountain Lion and Mavericks but if, for some reason, it is not, then checking 
this box will make it so that your computer locks itself after a few minutes 
and consequently requires a password to get back in.  All running apps remain 
active.  The second method is accomplished by turning on Fast User Switching in 
the Users & Groups pane of System Prefs.  Interact with the Users, Groups and 
Login Options list, navigate down to the Login Options item, Stop Interacting 
with the list, then navigate to the checkbox for "Show Fast User Switching as", 
and check that box.  This will place another menu in the Menu Extras area 
whereby you can either quickly switch to another user or choose Login Screen to 
lock up your machine.

You may also like to note that when using OS X Server, the Server app and many 
other functions remain running even when you log off.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Frank Ventura 
mailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>> wrote:


Hi all, here is a really stupid and simplistic question. With the Mac running, 
how can I lock the screen, as to require a PW to unlock, without quitting the 
running programs? I need to secure the Mac but keep the running apps going.
Frank

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Brailliant-32 not recovering from sleep mode under Mac OS?

[Vic]

Hello.
Does anybody here use Brailliant-32 (latest generation) Braille display 
with VoiceOver on Mac OS?
I noticed that oftentimes Braille does not come back on the display after 
the computer goes out of the sleep mode. The only way to restore Braille is 
to replug the USB cable to the Braille display.
Has anyone else experienced this with their setup? O, forgot to mention, I 
am using Mac Mini.

Thanks for any pointers.
Best,
Vic

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Re: trying to install fusion

[Joseph Norton]

Hi:

To increase the memory, first, shut down the VM.  Then, once it's shut down, 
you can press command-e to get into settings or that VM.  You should see 
options for processors and memory in there.  All you do is adjust the memory 
size and close that screen. 


Hope this helps.



On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:

> Hello,
>   Ok so continuing along this thread.  We've now got fusion installed, jaws 
> installed and now noticing a bit of a problem.  This problem is when using 
> various programs, currently we're using mushclient, it's seemingly running a 
> bit slow giving about a half a second to one second lag on every command 
> inputted.
>   I'm thinking this slow down is due to the fact I couldn't get the customize 
> settings button to work when installing windows onto fusion so that I could 
> adjust the amount of memory used from 2gb to something like 4gb instead.  
> Does anyone know if there is a way to modify this once windows is installed 
> or is the only way to fix this to completely redo the windows installation on 
> fusion and try and get that customize button to activate?
>   I'll explain what I mean by not getting the customize key to work.  When I 
> got beyond the screen where I chose the windows version to install, the user 
> name, windows product key, etc. it gave me the confirmation screen and 
> showing me how much gb of hard disc space it would allocate, the amount of 
> memory it would allocate, etc.  It had it set to 60gb of hard disc space by 
> default and 2gb of memory set by default so I wanted to try and hit on the 
> customize settings button after I hit my right arrow keys beyond those 
> displays of the default settings while using the quicknav keystrokes.  I then 
> tried hitting the up and down arrow keys together while using quicknav, 
> turned off quicknav keys and hit VO spacebar, hit enter, hit space, etc. and 
> every single time it would seemingly always hit the finish default button 
> where it would want me to save the virtual machine file and start installing 
> windows.
>   Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated as I feel we're so 
> close to having my wife up and running with everything on her computer except 
> for these minor adjustments to make her windows experience much more 
> enjoyable and doable in some cases.  If we can get this sorted out the only 
> thing we have left to figure out is how to use the jaws cursor, pc cursor, 
> and left/right click commands on windows inside fusion without a number pad 
> and for whatever reason the standard laptop keys don't work for this.
> 
> Take care,
> Shannon Gerdts
> 
> -Original Message- From: Caitlyn and Maggie
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
> 
> Wow, this is interesting.  So, after you c/p the installation file into the 
> folder of choice, onceyou open the vm, or rather, run the vm, you should be 
> able to run the installation file and install your screen reader?
> That sounds much neater then fiddling around with narrater and going onto the 
> web or fooling around with usb drives..
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Joseph Norton  wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> Actually, if you have the installation files (like j14.xxx.exe) on the Mac, 
>> you can copy and paste to the vm.
>> 
>> Just select the file in Mac OS, press command-c to copy.  Then, go into the 
>> VM, make sure you are in the desktop or another folder (like Downloads) and 
>> press command-v.  It will copy the file onto the Desktop or into the folder 
>> you have open.  This has worked for me in Fusion 5, so I'm assuming it 
>> should work in 65 as well.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I actually never did try that.  However, after a while and still having it 
>>> say fusion busy anytime we went to that window we decided to do a forced 
>>> quit on the application and reopen it.  When we did this it suddenly 
>>> brought up the screen where we could start installing windows allowing us 
>>> to complete this task.
>>> However, now I have a follow up question which I'm not sure how to do just 
>>> yet.  Now that I have windows installed in fusion and I have narrator up 
>>> and running I'm trying to figure out how exactly I can copy say my jaws 
>>> installation from my dropbox on the mac OS to fusion so that I can install 
>>> it on windows there.  Any idea how I go about doing this so that I can get 
>>> windows fully up and running with jaws and therefore allow my wife to fully 
>>> take advantage of having windows on her mac?
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Shannon Gerdts
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Terje Strømberg
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:08 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: Terje Strømberg
>>> Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
>>> 
>>> Have you tried to turn off Voice Over and tu

Re: Mail setting

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I did a bit of searching on the Net regarding your Logitech keyboard and it 
seems that this is a common issue.  It's possible that the unit is going to 
sleep and that is why you're having the problems.  There are a number of posts 
here:

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Keyboards-and-Keyboard-Mice/K760-keep-disconnecting-with-iMac/td-p/870202

Also, there is some updates to the software that will install a preference pane 
into your System Preferences that I believe allow you to control the sleep 
settings on the keyboard.  You can find the software here:

http://www.logitech.com/en-ca/support/wireless-solar-keyboard-k760-for-mac

Not sure if any of that helps, but thought it was worth a try.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Tim and John,
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I did get the unread back in the status 
> column, so the preview pane must have been open without me knowing it. Thanks 
> for the help. Any idea why my Logictech 760 bluetooth keyboard might keep 
> losing connectivity? I can't even disconnect it from the bluetooth menu. This 
> problem just started, and the keyboard is solar charged and seems to be fully 
> charged. It will for awhile and then just stop working, seems to work fine 
> with the iPhone. Thanks,
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As John mentioned, it's likely that your Preview Pane is active.  When the 
>> Preview Pane is active, the status is usually misread as Mail considers 
>> something read once the Preview Pane of a message has been opened.  Simply 
>> arrowing over the message causes the Preview Pane to activate so, from a VO 
>> prospective, you land on the message to determine if you wish to read it or 
>> not, and it is subsequently considered "Read".  To deal with the Preview 
>> Pane,  I'll paste in some instructions that I figured out back when 
>> Mavericks first came out:
>> 
 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
 physical Trackpad.
 
 You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
 after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
 window.
 
 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
 
 You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by 
 navigating around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter 
 before and after the Messages Column Group.
 
 If it's not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
 Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back 
 to the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
 numerous times.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:16 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>> What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
>>> you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
>>> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
>>> this to read correctly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
 it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in 
 Mavericks is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's 
 way in to forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I 
 can't even get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a 
 message, and the other half of the time a message will open and say empty 
 scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the 
 message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience 
 with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a 
 picture on a 56k prodigy account.
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
 
> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
> in the view. Check that out.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,

Re: Locking a Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Two cautions with using the Power button method.  If you put your Mac to sleep, 
then those apps also go to sleep.  I could be mistaken on the iMac, as I am not 
near one at the moment to confirm, but, on my MBP, you need to hold down the 
power button for about 3 to 4 seconds to get this behaviour in Mavericks.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hi,
> if this is an iMac assuming you have checked the checkbox referred to below 
> to require a password after sleep. You can press the power button once and 
> that will put it to sleep.
> Max
> 
> On 18 Feb 2014, at 3:41 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Frank,
>> 
>> Two ways you can deal with this.  First, in the Security & Privacy pane in 
>> System Prefs, make sure that the checkbox for requiring a password after 
>> Sleep or Screensaver is checked.  This behaviour is normally on by default 
>> in Mountain Lion and Mavericks but if, for some reason, it is not, then 
>> checking this box will make it so that your computer locks itself after a 
>> few minutes and consequently requires a password to get back in.  All 
>> running apps remain active.  The second method is accomplished by turning on 
>> Fast User Switching in the Users & Groups pane of System Prefs.  Interact 
>> with the Users, Groups and Login Options list, navigate down to the Login 
>> Options item, Stop Interacting with the list, then navigate to the checkbox 
>> for "Show Fast User Switching as", and check that box.  This will place 
>> another menu in the Menu Extras area whereby you can either quickly switch 
>> to another user or choose Login Screen to lock up your machine.
>> 
>> You may also like to note that when using OS X Server, the Server app and 
>> many other functions remain running even when you log off.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Frank Ventura  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, here is a really stupid and simplistic question. With the Mac 
>>> running, how can I lock the screen, as to require a PW to unlock, without 
>>> quitting the running programs? I need to secure the Mac but keep the 
>>> running apps going.
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> -
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Mail Programs

[Angus MacKinnon]

Can someone please discuss DenvenMail, Fast Mail and MailMate. Also, how VO 
friendly tey are. I am considering something other than the Mail program in 
Navrix.

Angus MacKinnon

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Re: anti-virus/security software for the iMac

[eric oyen]

my last experience with Sophos was that its interface wasn't very accessible. 
It gave me a tool bar, but the main scroll area wasn't visible to voiceover. I 
use ClamxAV for my anti-virus and the built in firewall to keep the script 
kiddies out.

-eric

On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:

> I think this is the dorrect link:
> http://downloads.sophos.com/home-edition/savosx_90_he.zip
> 
> Frank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Berry
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 4:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries
> Subject: Re: anti-virus/security software for the iMac
> 
> This may be just on a different site I would suggest doing a google search 
> for it.
> 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Deb, This doesn't seem to show up in the App Store though. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have Sophos for Mac and have been very happy with it. The same 
>>> installation also protect my windows Virtual Machine where we know we need 
>>> virus software. But Sophos is very accessible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I am not one to believe that the Apple universe is immune to hacking and 
 would like to get some recommendations for antivirus and security software 
 for our MBP and iMac. Any thoughts or recommendations?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Mail setting

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Tim,

No no big deal it took me a few minutes but then the light bulb went off that 
maybe the track pad commander had to be off and as soon as I turned it off, it 
worked perfectly. Thanks again. Appreciate all of your help always. Best,
On Feb 18, 2014, at 12:01 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> Oops, sorry.  I should add that bit about the Trackpad commander to my 
> instructions for removing the Preview Pane.  I seldom use the Trackpad 
> commander so don't think of that enough.  Sorry if it gave you extra 
> frustrations.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> OK, just finally got that tricky preview pane to close. I had my track pad 
>> commander on didn't realize it had to be turned off, so now just waiting for 
>> a new message to arrive, and hoping that maybe the preview pane was open all 
>> along and I didn't realize it, so hopefully the unread status will return. 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey John, 
>>> 
>>> I had the preview pane closed and unfortunately now it is open trying to 
>>> get it to close. Even with the preview pane closed though the first column 
>>> in classic mail which is status just stopped letting me know if messages 
>>> were unread and I hadn't changed any settings trying to get back the status 
>>> row letting me know if messages are unread, but now I am having trouble 
>>> getting the preview pane to close following Tim's directions. 
>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:16 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
 What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
 you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status 
 of messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to 
 get this to read correctly.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is 
> there it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in 
> Mavericks is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's 
> way in to forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I 
> can't even get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a 
> message, and the other half of the time a message will open and say empty 
> scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to 
> the message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my 
> experience with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels like I am 
> trying to load a picture on a 56k prodigy account.
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  
> wrote:
> 
>> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns 
>> are in the view. Check that out.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
>>> classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago 
>>> it would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is 
>>> an image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was 
>>> unread. Any idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at 
>>> mail preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might 
>>> apply but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If 
>>> anyone knows please let me know. Thanks,
>>> 
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help with audio mini setup

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

can somebody check there audio mini setup, because i think i deleted something 
there,. i only have two on my audio mini setup which is the built in microphone 
and builit in output on the audio devices,, thanks in advance

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Re: Mail setting

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Tim and John,

Just wanted to let you know that I did get the unread back in the status 
column, so the preview pane must have been open without me knowing it. Thanks 
for the help. Any idea why my Logictech 760 bluetooth keyboard might keep 
losing connectivity? I can't even disconnect it from the bluetooth menu. This 
problem just started, and the keyboard is solar charged and seems to be fully 
charged. It will for awhile and then just stop working, seems to work fine with 
the iPhone. Thanks,
On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As John mentioned, it's likely that your Preview Pane is active.  When the 
> Preview Pane is active, the status is usually misread as Mail considers 
> something read once the Preview Pane of a message has been opened.  Simply 
> arrowing over the message causes the Preview Pane to activate so, from a VO 
> prospective, you land on the message to determine if you wish to read it or 
> not, and it is subsequently considered "Read".  To deal with the Preview 
> Pane,  I'll paste in some instructions that I figured out back when Mavericks 
> first came out:
> 
>>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
>>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
>>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
>>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
>>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
>>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>>> physical Trackpad.
>>> 
>>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>>> window.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
>>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>>> 
>>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>>> after the Messages Column Group.
>>> 
>>> If it's not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back 
>>> to the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>>> numerous times.
>> 
>> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:16 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>>  What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
>> you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
>> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
>> this to read correctly.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
>>> it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in 
>>> Mavericks is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's 
>>> way in to forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I 
>>> can't even get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a 
>>> message, and the other half of the time a message will open and say empty 
>>> scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the 
>>> message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience 
>>> with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a 
>>> picture on a 56k prodigy account.
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
 And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
 in the view. Check that out.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
> classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
> would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
> image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any 
> idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
> preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
> but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
> knows please let me know. Thanks,
> 
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Re: Mail setting

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Brian,

Oops, sorry.  I should add that bit about the Trackpad commander to my 
instructions for removing the Preview Pane.  I seldom use the Trackpad 
commander so don't think of that enough.  Sorry if it gave you extra 
frustrations.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> OK, just finally got that tricky preview pane to close. I had my track pad 
> commander on didn't realize it had to be turned off, so now just waiting for 
> a new message to arrive, and hoping that maybe the preview pane was open all 
> along and I didn't realize it, so hopefully the unread status will return. 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey John, 
>> 
>> I had the preview pane closed and unfortunately now it is open trying to get 
>> it to close. Even with the preview pane closed though the first column in 
>> classic mail which is status just stopped letting me know if messages were 
>> unread and I hadn't changed any settings trying to get back the status row 
>> letting me know if messages are unread, but now I am having trouble getting 
>> the preview pane to close following Tim's directions. 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:16 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>> What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
>>> you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
>>> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
>>> this to read correctly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
 it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in 
 Mavericks is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's 
 way in to forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I 
 can't even get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a 
 message, and the other half of the time a message will open and say empty 
 scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the 
 message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience 
 with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a 
 picture on a 56k prodigy account.
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
 
> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
> in the view. Check that out.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
>> classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
>> would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
>> image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. 
>> Any idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
>> preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
>> but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
>> knows please let me know. Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Mail setting

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Reggie,

The method by which one reads Mail seems to be a personal preference.  I prefer 
to turn the Preview pane off, stay in the newer modern view, arrow through my 
messages and press return to open them.  When I press return, the subject and 
senders name are announced again then the message body read out by VO.  If it 
is a conversation, all messages in that thread are opened when the return key 
is pressed.  I can then simply Stop Interacting with the first message that was 
opened and use VO-right and VO-left to read all the messages in the thread.  If 
I wish to delete the message that I'm currently reading, I just press the 
Delete key and VO will start reading the next message in the thread.  As I 
said, this works great for me, but others have expressed a preference of using 
the VO-j method as the subject and sender are not re-voiced.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> 
> 
> This whole mail question is confusing to me. If I tab past the first screen 
> when I open mail I see mailboxes, some of which are checked and some not. Why 
> is this? What is the check for? Also, if I once get a conversation open, do I 
> have to arrow to each post and then do a VO J to read and then do VO J again 
> so I can find the next post and delete the one I just read? Is there a 
> smoother way to read mail? Are there any settings that would make mail less 
> cumbersome?  
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:t
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As John mentioned, it's likely that your Preview Pane is active.  When the 
> Preview Pane is active, the status is usually misread as Mail considers 
> something read once the Preview Pane of a message has been opened.  Simply 
> arrowing over the message causes the Preview Pane to activate so, from a VO 
> prospective, you land on the message to determine if you wish to read it or 
> not, and it is subsequently considered "Read".  To deal with the Preview 
> Pane,  I'll paste in some instructions that I figured out back when Mavericks 
> first came out:
> 
>>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
>>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
>>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
>>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
>>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
>>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>>> physical Trackpad.
>>> 
>>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>>> window.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
>>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>>> 
>>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>>> after the Messages Column Group.
>>> 
>>> If it's not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back 
>>> to the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>>> numerous times.
>> 
>> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:16 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do you 
>> have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
>> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
>> this to read correctly.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
>>> it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in 
>>> Mavericks is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's 
>>> way in to forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I 
>>> can't even get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a 
>>> message, and the other half of the time a message will open and say empty 
>>> scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the 
>>> message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience 
>>> with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a 
>>> picture on a 56k prodigy account.
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
 
 And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
 in the view. Check that out.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Fe

Re: Locking a Mac

[Agent086b]

Hi,
if this is an iMac assuming you have checked the checkbox referred to below to 
require a password after sleep. You can press the power button once and that 
will put it to sleep.
Max

On 18 Feb 2014, at 3:41 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Frank,
> 
> Two ways you can deal with this.  First, in the Security & Privacy pane in 
> System Prefs, make sure that the checkbox for requiring a password after 
> Sleep or Screensaver is checked.  This behaviour is normally on by default in 
> Mountain Lion and Mavericks but if, for some reason, it is not, then checking 
> this box will make it so that your computer locks itself after a few minutes 
> and consequently requires a password to get back in.  All running apps remain 
> active.  The second method is accomplished by turning on Fast User Switching 
> in the Users & Groups pane of System Prefs.  Interact with the Users, Groups 
> and Login Options list, navigate down to the Login Options item, Stop 
> Interacting with the list, then navigate to the checkbox for "Show Fast User 
> Switching as", and check that box.  This will place another menu in the Menu 
> Extras area whereby you can either quickly switch to another user or choose 
> Login Screen to lock up your machine.
> 
> You may also like to note that when using OS X Server, the Server app and 
> many other functions remain running even when you log off.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Frank Ventura  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, here is a really stupid and simplistic question. With the Mac 
>> running, how can I lock the screen, as to require a PW to unlock, without 
>> quitting the running programs? I need to secure the Mac but keep the running 
>> apps going.
>> Frank
>> 
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Re: Locking a Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Frank,

Two ways you can deal with this.  First, in the Security & Privacy pane in 
System Prefs, make sure that the checkbox for requiring a password after Sleep 
or Screensaver is checked.  This behaviour is normally on by default in 
Mountain Lion and Mavericks but if, for some reason, it is not, then checking 
this box will make it so that your computer locks itself after a few minutes 
and consequently requires a password to get back in.  All running apps remain 
active.  The second method is accomplished by turning on Fast User Switching in 
the Users & Groups pane of System Prefs.  Interact with the Users, Groups and 
Login Options list, navigate down to the Login Options item, Stop Interacting 
with the list, then navigate to the checkbox for "Show Fast User Switching as", 
and check that box.  This will place another menu in the Menu Extras area 
whereby you can either quickly switch to another user or choose Login Screen to 
lock up your machine.

You may also like to note that when using OS X Server, the Server app and many 
other functions remain running even when you log off.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Frank Ventura  
wrote:

> Hi all, here is a really stupid and simplistic question. With the Mac 
> running, how can I lock the screen, as to require a PW to unlock, without 
> quitting the running programs? I need to secure the Mac but keep the running 
> apps going.
> Frank
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Re: Two problems with OSX Server (10.9.1)

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Frank,

Usually the checkbox to administer the Server from another Mac is not checked 
by default.  You'll need to go to the Mini, open the Server app and select the 
server name in the Services table.  Stop Interacting with the table, navigate 
to the Settings button and press it.  Interact with the Scroll area and make 
sure the "Allow Remote Administration using Server" is checked.  Now, you 
should be able to login to the Server from another Mac as long as you either 
use a local Admin user from the Mini or, if you've set it up as an Open 
Directory Master, then you should be able to use the Directory Admin user for 
administering the Server remotely.

So, whether you're logging on from within your LAN or from elsewhere, you are 
logging on to the Mini, so you need to log in with an account that resides on 
the Mini.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Frank Ventura  
wrote:

> Hello all, I have OS Server installed from the factory on a Mac Mini. I have 
> two problems:
> 1. I have installed the server app on my laptop and have chosen to access the 
> OSX server on the Mac mini. The mac mini shows up in the list of available 
> servers. It then asks me for a username and password. I am not sure what 
> username to enter. For example if my short username is Joe and the full 
> username is Joe Blow and my email address is j...@mycompany.us, which 
> username do I use. I think I tried all combinations without any luck.
> 2. I have the VPN role enabled on the ser and I have the same problem as 
> above in problem 1. No matter what variation of the username I put in it 
> always fails to connect with the error that I am using the incorrect username 
> and/or password. It is not a firewall issue since I have the same problem 
> from within the LAN.
> Can anyone help with these two connection issues. I am new to OSX server so I 
> am sure I am missing something simplisitic. I am coming over from Windows 
> servers and this is somewhat new to me.
> Thanks
> Frank
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Locking a Mac

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, here is a really stupid and simplistic question. With the Mac running, 
how can I lock the screen, as to require a PW to unlock, without quitting the 
running programs? I need to secure the Mac but keep the running apps going.
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Re: attachments disappearing in Mail under Mavericks?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Jonathan,

I didn't see any such message.  And I never had this problem before the upgrade 
to mavericks.
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> Sometimes firewalls will do that. I don't know if it was your case but 
> usually when it does happen, there will be a note stating that the attachment 
> was removed for security reasons.
> Jonathan
> Ta 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just tried to send an attachment to myself at a different email address.  
>> It was clear on my Mac that the file was attached, but when I opened the 
>> message from my other account on my Pc, there was no attachment.  Anyone 
>> know what's up?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Closing the preview pane automatically in Mail.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

The attached AppleScript closes all Message viewers and then opens one up 
without the preview pane. This should prevent the preview pane from 
re-appearing.

I don't know if anybody else has gotten this to work since there were 
discussions on the Apple forums about errors  when trying to turn off the 
preview pane.

Script starts on the next line.
use AppleMail : application id "com.apple.mail"
activate AppleMail

repeat with vw in message viewers
close vw's window
end repeat


set mywin to make new message viewer without preview pane is visible
**
Best wishes,

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Re: attachments disappearing in Mail under Mavericks?

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Sometimes firewalls will do that. I don't know if it was your case but usually 
when it does happen, there will be a note stating that the attachment was 
removed for security reasons.
Jonathan
Ta 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just tried to send an attachment to myself at a different email address.  
> It was clear on my Mac that the file was attached, but when I opened the 
> message from my other account on my Pc, there was no attachment.  Anyone know 
> what's up?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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braille on the mac

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, On the subject of braille for mac, brailleblaster is looking for qualified 
testers, documenters and utility people who can do things such as building 
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RE: Two problems with OSX Server (10.9.1)

[Frank Ventura]

Thanks Jeesica, I have tried my short username and password with no luck.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Subject: Re: Two problems with OSX Server (10.9.1)

did you try your account username and password? I do not have this so cannot 
tell you what would work but am simply trying to put a suggestion out their for 
you.

Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com



On Feb 17, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Frank Ventura  
wrote:

> Hello all, I have OS Server installed from the factory on a Mac Mini. I have 
> two problems:
> 1. I have installed the server app on my laptop and have chosen to access the 
> OSX server on the Mac mini. The mac mini shows up in the list of available 
> servers. It then asks me for a username and password. I am not sure what 
> username to enter. For example if my short username is Joe and the full 
> username is Joe Blow and my email address is j...@mycompany.us, which 
> username do I use. I think I tried all combinations without any luck.
> 2. I have the VPN role enabled on the ser and I have the same problem as 
> above in problem 1. No matter what variation of the username I put in it 
> always fails to connect with the error that I am using the incorrect username 
> and/or password. It is not a firewall issue since I have the same problem 
> from within the LAN.
> Can anyone help with these two connection issues. I am new to OSX server so I 
> am sure I am missing something simplisitic. I am coming over from Windows 
> servers and this is somewhat new to me.
> Thanks
> Frank
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Re: Two problems with OSX Server (10.9.1)

[Jessica]

did you try your account username and password? I do not have this so cannot 
tell you what would work but am simply trying to put a suggestion out their for 
you.

Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com



On Feb 17, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Frank Ventura  
wrote:

> Hello all, I have OS Server installed from the factory on a Mac Mini. I have 
> two problems:
> 1. I have installed the server app on my laptop and have chosen to access the 
> OSX server on the Mac mini. The mac mini shows up in the list of available 
> servers. It then asks me for a username and password. I am not sure what 
> username to enter. For example if my short username is Joe and the full 
> username is Joe Blow and my email address is j...@mycompany.us, which 
> username do I use. I think I tried all combinations without any luck.
> 2. I have the VPN role enabled on the ser and I have the same problem as 
> above in problem 1. No matter what variation of the username I put in it 
> always fails to connect with the error that I am using the incorrect username 
> and/or password. It is not a firewall issue since I have the same problem 
> from within the LAN.
> Can anyone help with these two connection issues. I am new to OSX server so I 
> am sure I am missing something simplisitic. I am coming over from Windows 
> servers and this is somewhat new to me.
> Thanks
> Frank
> 
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Two problems with OSX Server (10.9.1)

[Frank Ventura]

Hello all, I have OS Server installed from the factory on a Mac Mini. I have 
two problems:
1. I have installed the server app on my laptop and have chosen to access the 
OSX server on the Mac mini. The mac mini shows up in the list of available 
servers. It then asks me for a username and password. I am not sure what 
username to enter. For example if my short username is Joe and the full 
username is Joe Blow and my email address is j...@mycompany.us, which username 
do I use. I think I tried all combinations without any luck.
2. I have the VPN role enabled on the ser and I have the same problem as above 
in problem 1. No matter what variation of the username I put in it always fails 
to connect with the error that I am using the incorrect username and/or 
password. It is not a firewall issue since I have the same problem from within 
the LAN.
Can anyone help with these two connection issues. I am new to OSX server so I 
am sure I am missing something simplisitic. I am coming over from Windows 
servers and this is somewhat new to me.
Thanks
Frank

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Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users

[Ein Lee]

Excuse me of my lazy response. I was overwhelmed by valuable comments and 
opinions. Thanks all. We promise to listen to everything and try to do the 
best to improve it as much as we can. We have decided to provide it as is 
globally by online other than just attending some exhibitions and waiting 
for RiVO to be in its final form in the future which might be far. We have 
seen and found good and enough rationale about our decision and wanted to 
be of any help to those who may want to use smartphone better than now just 
like those who are good at. As I mentioned in the original post, RiVO is 
surely not for everyone. However, we will continue to do our best to make 
RiVO as helpful to as many people as possible. We sincerely hope so.

On Friday, February 14, 2014 4:52:53 PM UTC+9, Ein Lee wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’d like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver 
> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use 
> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people 
> know about the availability of this product.
>
> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS 
> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being 
> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable 
> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, 
> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively.
>
> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like 
> a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control 
> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a 
> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without 
> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is 
> another innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is 
> also available.
>
> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world:
> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use 
> smartphone.
> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful.
> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO.
> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate.
> - I have RiVO with me all the time.
> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster 
> with this keypad.
> - RIVO’s smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry.
> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long.
> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind.
> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move.
> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the 
> surroundings with my gesture actions.
> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those 
> who can see.
> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable 
> for us!
> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time.
> - I am very happy with the keyboard’s performance on both of iOS and 
> Android platforms.
> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad 
> interface.
> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and 
> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever 
> had before to a desktop or iOS device.
> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the 
> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our 
> lives.
> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. 
> My right arm is feeling better already.
>
> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or 
> just slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable 
> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your 
> iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave 
> your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, 
> or if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day 
> long, RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever 
> and unlike everyone else.
>
> I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy 
> the possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that 
> make your life easy.
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
> Mobience Inc.
> RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page
>
> Control from palm to pocket: 
> http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket
> A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: 
> http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml
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attachments disappearing in Mail under Mavericks?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I just tried to send an attachment to myself at a different email address.  It 
was clear on my Mac that the file was attached, but when I opened the message 
from my other account on my Pc, there was no attachment.  Anyone know what's up?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?

[Phil Halton]

select "music", then select the playlists radio button. it is located in the 
table of playlists.

On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> The subject says it all?
> Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful.
> Thanks.
> 
> Lisette
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Re: Mail setting

[Brian Fischler]

OK, just finally got that tricky preview pane to close. I had my track pad 
commander on didn't realize it had to be turned off, so now just waiting for a 
new message to arrive, and hoping that maybe the preview pane was open all 
along and I didn't realize it, so hopefully the unread status will return. 
On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey John, 
> 
> I had the preview pane closed and unfortunately now it is open trying to get 
> it to close. Even with the preview pane closed though the first column in 
> classic mail which is status just stopped letting me know if messages were 
> unread and I hadn't changed any settings trying to get back the status row 
> letting me know if messages are unread, but now I am having trouble getting 
> the preview pane to close following Tim's directions. 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:16 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>>  What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
>> you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
>> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
>> this to read correctly.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
>>> it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in 
>>> Mavericks is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's 
>>> way in to forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I 
>>> can't even get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a 
>>> message, and the other half of the time a message will open and say empty 
>>> scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the 
>>> message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience 
>>> with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a 
>>> picture on a 56k prodigy account.
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
 And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
 in the view. Check that out.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
> classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
> would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
> image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any 
> idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
> preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
> but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
> knows please let me know. Thanks,
> 
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Re: Mail setting

[Brian Fischler]

Hey John, 

I had the preview pane closed and unfortunately now it is open trying to get it 
to close. Even with the preview pane closed though the first column in classic 
mail which is status just stopped letting me know if messages were unread and I 
hadn't changed any settings trying to get back the status row letting me know 
if messages are unread, but now I am having trouble getting the preview pane to 
close following Tim's directions. 
On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:16 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>   What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
> you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
> this to read correctly.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
>> it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in Mavericks 
>> is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's way in to 
>> forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I can't even 
>> get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a message, and the 
>> other half of the time a message will open and say empty scroll area for 20 
>> seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the message. Thanks 
>> Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience with it has sent 
>> computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a picture on a 56k 
>> prodigy account.
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>>> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
>>> in the view. Check that out.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
 classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
 would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
 image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any 
 idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
 preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
 but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
 knows please let me know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Mail setting

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Tim,

Ugh, I think my preview pane was actually closed as I followed your steps and 
now to the right of the horizontal splitter is now the message I was focused on 
which wasn't there before, and of course I can't get it to close. So 
unfortunately I don't think the messages no longer saying unread or replied was 
because the preview pane was open. Very strange, and of course, now I can't get 
the preview pane to close again.
On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As John mentioned, it's likely that your Preview Pane is active.  When the 
> Preview Pane is active, the status is usually misread as Mail considers 
> something read once the Preview Pane of a message has been opened.  Simply 
> arrowing over the message causes the Preview Pane to activate so, from a VO 
> prospective, you land on the message to determine if you wish to read it or 
> not, and it is subsequently considered "Read".  To deal with the Preview 
> Pane,  I'll paste in some instructions that I figured out back when Mavericks 
> first came out:
> 
>>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
>>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
>>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
>>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
>>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
>>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>>> physical Trackpad.
>>> 
>>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>>> window.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
>>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>>> 
>>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>>> after the Messages Column Group.
>>> 
>>> If it's not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back 
>>> to the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>>> numerous times.
>> 
>> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:16 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>>  What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
>> you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
>> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
>> this to read correctly.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
>>> it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in 
>>> Mavericks is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's 
>>> way in to forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I 
>>> can't even get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a 
>>> message, and the other half of the time a message will open and say empty 
>>> scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the 
>>> message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience 
>>> with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a 
>>> picture on a 56k prodigy account.
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
 And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
 in the view. Check that out.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
> classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
> would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
> image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any 
> idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
> preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
> but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
> knows please let me know. Thanks,
> 
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is there any podcast to use the garage band?

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

can somebody help me use the garage abdn, i would like to record my instrument 
at the same time my voice. or maybe contact me on my skype,
my skype name is dionipher

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Re: Mail setting

[Regina Alvarado]

This whole mail question is confusing to me. If I tab past the first screen 
when I open mail I see mailboxes, some of which are checked and some not. Why 
is this? What is the check for? Also, if I once get a conversation open, do I 
have to arrow to each post and then do a VO J to read and then do VO J again so 
I can find the next post and delete the one I just read? Is there a smoother 
way to read mail? Are there any settings that would make mail less cumbersome?  
reggie and Allegra

On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:t

Hi,

As John mentioned, it's likely that your Preview Pane is active.  When the 
Preview Pane is active, the status is usually misread as Mail considers 
something read once the Preview Pane of a message has been opened.  Simply 
arrowing over the message causes the Preview Pane to activate so, from a VO 
prospective, you land on the message to determine if you wish to read it or 
not, and it is subsequently considered "Read".  To deal with the Preview Pane,  
I'll paste in some instructions that I figured out back when Mavericks first 
came out:

>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>> physical Trackpad.
>> 
>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>> window.
>> 
>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>> 
>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>> after the Messages Column Group.
>> 
>> If it's not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to 
>> the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>> numerous times.
> 
> Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:16 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do you 
> have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
> this to read correctly.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
>> it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in Mavericks 
>> is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's way in to 
>> forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I can't even 
>> get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a message, and the 
>> other half of the time a message will open and say empty scroll area for 20 
>> seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the message. Thanks 
>> Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience with it has sent 
>> computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a picture on a 56k 
>> prodigy account.
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
>>> in the view. Check that out.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
 classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
 would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
 image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any 
 idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
 preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
 but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
 knows please let me know. Thanks,
 
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Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

[Pamela Francis]

Hi Christine,
Backing out of the app is a bit tricky. You can find station names under 
categories. Don't look on all channels. You will only see the artist currently 
playing or the show name currently playing. 

Pam Francis

On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Thanks for the button labeling, Pam. Is there a way to search the app for 
particular artists, decades stations, etc.? I saw a search button on-line, but 
can't seem to on the app. Also, I cannot reliably locate a back button. 
Christine

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:33 AM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> I take it this allows you through the app to listen to all stations?
>> Can you label the buttons, or are they in the process of fixing them?
>> When you’re in wifi range, does it use your wifi?
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:22 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014
>>  
>> Hello all,
>> I have been a serious XM radio subscriber for years. Currently, I use the 
>> app as it offers more for the price. For those who do not have anyone to 
>> assist with labeling buttons, they are as follows from left to right on the 
>> iPhone app categories, all  channels, favorites, Shows & on demand, my 
>> downloads.
>> I have also found that once the buttons are labeld, they don't get lost   
>> when the app updates. Hope this helps. 
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all. I would just like to report that I am using the trial, and did 
>> not have to input any credit card information. Also, the iPhone app is not 
>> completely accessible. There are several unlabeled buttons at the bottom. By 
>> playing around, however, I suspect it will be quite usable.
>> Christine
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 17:45, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>>  
>> Forgive the cross-post, but I thought this would apply to both lists.
>>  
>> I don’t know how long this will be in effect, but SiriusXM is offering a 
>> 30-day free trial for new subscribers. You have to provide credit-card info, 
>> but you can call to cancel before the trial ends. I believe this offer is 
>> only available in the US. I started mine two days ago, and I’m having fun 
>> with it. There’s olympic coverage of full US men’s hockey, women’s medal 
>> games, sports talk, sports play-by-play, and lots of music channels. The IOS 
>> app is completely accessible, but the computer app is not accessible at all.
>>  
>> here’s the direct link:
>> http://www.siriusxm.com/freetrial
>>  
>> Have fun,
>> Teresa
>>  
>> Teresa Cochran
>> batsfly...@me.com
>> Facebook
>>  
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Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

[Pamela Francis]

Hi Teresa,
If I'm not mistaken, if you go through the categories section on the app, or 
under shows on demand, you may be able to get the channel name. Like you, I'm 
not one who cares for there current layout. However, that Appice come a long 
ways with its  degree of accessibility.  

Pam Francis

On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

Pam, I have a question for you or anyone else more familiar with the app than I 
am. Is there a way to display the channel names? Currently, the app shows 
what’s on each channel, but doesn’t display the name of the channel unless I 
start listening and tap on the actions button.

I did find the channel lineup here:
http://www.siriusxm.com/channellineup

thanks,
Teresa

“The golden age of science fiction is twelve.”—Pete graham

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:22 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I have been a serious XM radio subscriber for years. Currently, I use the app 
> as it offers more for the price. For those who do not have anyone to assist 
> with labeling buttons, they are as follows from left to right on the iPhone 
> app categories, all  channels, favorites, Shows & on demand, my downloads.
> I have also found that once the buttons are labeld, they don't get lost   
> when the app updates. Hope this helps. 
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all. I would just like to report that I am using the trial, and did not 
> have to input any credit card information. Also, the iPhone app is not 
> completely accessible. There are several unlabeled buttons at the bottom. By 
> playing around, however, I suspect it will be quite usable.
> Christine
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 17:45, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Forgive the cross-post, but I thought this would apply to both lists.
>> 
>> I don’t know how long this will be in effect, but SiriusXM is offering a 
>> 30-day free trial for new subscribers. You have to provide credit-card info, 
>> but you can call to cancel before the trial ends. I believe this offer is 
>> only available in the US. I started mine two days ago, and I’m having fun 
>> with it. There’s olympic coverage of full US men’s hockey, women’s medal 
>> games, sports talk, sports play-by-play, and lots of music channels. The IOS 
>> app is completely accessible, but the computer app is not accessible at all.
>> 
>> here’s the direct link:
>> http://www.siriusxm.com/freetrial
>> 
>> Have fun,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Teresa Cochran
>> batsfly...@me.com
>> Facebook
>> 
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Re: Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?

[Lisette Wesseling]

No sorr, it's not there for me.
Lisette

On 18/02/2014, at 9:18 am, Isaac Hebert  wrote:

> Go to the sources table and then you will find the playlist.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The subject says it all?
>> Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful.
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: need an iphone help

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

thanks angelo, i found it, and i install the garage band for free 
On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:43 am, Angelo  wrote:

> they should be free, if it's a iPhone 5 c or 5 s, go to the featured tab, 
> near the bottom you'll see apps made by Apple, double tap it and all your 
> free apps should be there.
> hth
> Angelo
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> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> i just bought an iPhone and this is my first iphone so i would like to ask 
>> everybody about the apps store. When i open the apps store, it pop up a 
>> update on pages garage band, itune etc, then i press not now. so i wonder 
>> how can i turn back to install all those things on my iphone? i tried to 
>> search for those apps on the apps store but now its not already free.. can 
>> somebody help me
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Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

[Christine Grassman]

Thanks for the button labeling, Pam. Is there a way to search the app for 
particular artists, decades stations, etc.? I saw a search button on-line, but 
can't seem to on the app. Also, I cannot reliably locate a back button. 
Christine

On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Jessica D  wrote:

> Yes, it does.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:33 AM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> I take it this allows you through the app to listen to all stations?
>> Can you label the buttons, or are they in the process of fixing them?
>> When you're in wifi range, does it use your wifi?
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:22 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014
>>  
>> Hello all,
>> I have been a serious XM radio subscriber for years. Currently, I use the 
>> app as it offers more for the price. For those who do not have anyone to 
>> assist with labeling buttons, they are as follows from left to right on the 
>> iPhone app categories, all  channels, favorites, Shows & on demand, my 
>> downloads.
>> I have also found that once the buttons are labeld, they don't get lost   
>> when the app updates. Hope this helps. 
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all. I would just like to report that I am using the trial, and did 
>> not have to input any credit card information. Also, the iPhone app is not 
>> completely accessible. There are several unlabeled buttons at the bottom. By 
>> playing around, however, I suspect it will be quite usable.
>> Christine
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 17:45, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>>  
>> Forgive the cross-post, but I thought this would apply to both lists.
>>  
>> I don't know how long this will be in effect, but SiriusXM is offering a 
>> 30-day free trial for new subscribers. You have to provide credit-card info, 
>> but you can call to cancel before the trial ends. I believe this offer is 
>> only available in the US. I started mine two days ago, and I'm having fun 
>> with it. There's olympic coverage of full US men's hockey, women's medal 
>> games, sports talk, sports play-by-play, and lots of music channels. The IOS 
>> app is completely accessible, but the computer app is not accessible at all.
>>  
>> here's the direct link:
>> http://www.siriusxm.com/freetrial
>>  
>> Have fun,
>> Teresa
>>  
>> Teresa Cochran
>> batsfly...@me.com
>> Facebook
>>  
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Re: Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?

[Isaac Hebert]

Go to the sources table and then you will find the playlist.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
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> The subject says it all?
> Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful.
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Mail setting

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

As John mentioned, it's likely that your Preview Pane is active.  When the 
Preview Pane is active, the status is usually misread as Mail considers 
something read once the Preview Pane of a message has been opened.  Simply 
arrowing over the message causes the Preview Pane to activate so, from a VO 
prospective, you land on the message to determine if you wish to read it or 
not, and it is subsequently considered "Read".  To deal with the Preview Pane,  
I'll paste in some instructions that I figured out back when Mavericks first 
came out:

>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>> physical Trackpad.
>> 
>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>> window.
>> 
>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>> 
>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>> after the Messages Column Group.
>> 
>> If it's not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to 
>> the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>> numerous times.
> 
> Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:16 AM, John Panarese  wrote:

>   What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do 
> you have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
> messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
> this to read correctly.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
>> it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in Mavericks 
>> is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's way in to 
>> forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I can't even 
>> get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a message, and the 
>> other half of the time a message will open and say empty scroll area for 20 
>> seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the message. Thanks 
>> Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience with it has sent 
>> computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a picture on a 56k 
>> prodigy account.
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>>> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
>>> in the view. Check that out.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
 classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
 would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
 image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any 
 idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
 preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
 but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
 knows please let me know. Thanks,
 
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Where can I find the recently added playlist in iTunes?

[Lisette Wesseling]

The subject says it all?
Where is this thing to be? It would be so useful.
Thanks.

Lisette

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Re: trying to install fusion

[Shannon Gerdts]

Hello,
   Ok so continuing along this thread.  We've now got fusion installed, 
jaws installed and now noticing a bit of a problem.  This problem is when 
using various programs, currently we're using mushclient, it's seemingly 
running a bit slow giving about a half a second to one second lag on every 
command inputted.
   I'm thinking this slow down is due to the fact I couldn't get the 
customize settings button to work when installing windows onto fusion so 
that I could adjust the amount of memory used from 2gb to something like 4gb 
instead.  Does anyone know if there is a way to modify this once windows is 
installed or is the only way to fix this to completely redo the windows 
installation on fusion and try and get that customize button to activate?
   I'll explain what I mean by not getting the customize key to work.  When 
I got beyond the screen where I chose the windows version to install, the 
user name, windows product key, etc. it gave me the confirmation screen and 
showing me how much gb of hard disc space it would allocate, the amount of 
memory it would allocate, etc.  It had it set to 60gb of hard disc space by 
default and 2gb of memory set by default so I wanted to try and hit on the 
customize settings button after I hit my right arrow keys beyond those 
displays of the default settings while using the quicknav keystrokes.  I 
then tried hitting the up and down arrow keys together while using quicknav, 
turned off quicknav keys and hit VO spacebar, hit enter, hit space, etc. and 
every single time it would seemingly always hit the finish default button 
where it would want me to save the virtual machine file and start installing 
windows.
   Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated as I feel we're so 
close to having my wife up and running with everything on her computer 
except for these minor adjustments to make her windows experience much more 
enjoyable and doable in some cases.  If we can get this sorted out the only 
thing we have left to figure out is how to use the jaws cursor, pc cursor, 
and left/right click commands on windows inside fusion without a number pad 
and for whatever reason the standard laptop keys don't work for this.


Take care,
Shannon Gerdts

-Original Message- 
From: Caitlyn and Maggie

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to install fusion

Wow, this is interesting.  So, after you c/p the installation file into the 
folder of choice, onceyou open the vm, or rather, run the vm, you should be 
able to run the installation file and install your screen reader?
That sounds much neater then fiddling around with narrater and going onto 
the web or fooling around with usb drives..

thanks!
Caitlyn

On Feb 17, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Joseph Norton  wrote:


Hi:

Actually, if you have the installation files (like j14.xxx.exe) on the 
Mac, you can copy and paste to the vm.


Just select the file in Mac OS, press command-c to copy.  Then, go into 
the VM, make sure you are in the desktop or another folder (like 
Downloads) and press command-v.  It will copy the file onto the Desktop or 
into the folder you have open.  This has worked for me in Fusion 5, so I'm 
assuming it should work in 65 as well.


Hope this helps.


On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:


Hello,
 I actually never did try that.  However, after a while and still having 
it say fusion busy anytime we went to that window we decided to do a 
forced quit on the application and reopen it.  When we did this it 
suddenly brought up the screen where we could start installing windows 
allowing us to complete this task.
 However, now I have a follow up question which I'm not sure how to do 
just yet.  Now that I have windows installed in fusion and I have 
narrator up and running I'm trying to figure out how exactly I can copy 
say my jaws installation from my dropbox on the mac OS to fusion so that 
I can install it on windows there.  Any idea how I go about doing this so 
that I can get windows fully up and running with jaws and therefore allow 
my wife to fully take advantage of having windows on her mac?


Take care,
Shannon Gerdts

-Original Message- From: Terje Strømberg
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Terje Strømberg
Subject: Re: trying to install fusion

Have you tried to turn off Voice Over and turn it on again?

Take care

16. feb. 2014 kl. 01:01 skrev Shannon Gerdts :

Hello everyone,
So I'm currently in the process of trying to install fusion on my wife's 
laptop.  However, after we told it to continue after putting in our 
license key it just sits there saying fusion busy.  Anyone know why this 
would be or how we can find out what's going on so that we can finish 
getting it installed and get to installing windows?


Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
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Re: selecting text on web pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Scott,

How you select text on a website depends very much on how it has been encoded. 
Here are the various ways of doing it.

Interact with the element for which you wish to select characters or words and 
use the usual Shift plus right arrow for characters and Option-Shift-Right 
arrow for words, and Cmd-c to copy to the clipboard..

Interact with the element and use the VO selection command VO-Return to start 
selecting and VO-Return again to stop, then Cmd-c to copy to the clipboard.

Make VoiceOver speak the text you wish to copy and use VO-Shift-c to copy the 
last spoken phrase to the clipboard.

Cheers,

Anne


On 17 Feb 2014, at 14:36, Scott Berry  wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> 
> Could someone please tell me the commands for selecting text by character, 
> word and line?
> 
> Thanks much.
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Re: Mail setting

[John Panarese]

   What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do you 
have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
this to read correctly.


Take Care

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On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there it 
> just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in Mavericks is 
> so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's way in to 
> forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I can't even 
> get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a message, and the 
> other half of the time a message will open and say empty scroll area for 20 
> seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the message. Thanks 
> Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience with it has sent 
> computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a picture on a 56k 
> prodigy account.
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
>> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are in 
>> the view. Check that out.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
>>> classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
>>> would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an image 
>>> that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any idea 
>>> where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail preferences, Vo 
>>> verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply but can't seem to 
>>> find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone knows please let me 
>>> know. Thanks,
>>> 
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Re: looking for podcast on the Logitech K811 keyboard

[Brian Fischler]

I have this keyboard, but all of the sudden in Mavericks I can't use it half 
the time as it loses bluetooth connectivity. It will work for about ten minutes 
and then just lose connectivity and I can't even get the bluetooth menu to 
disconnect from it so I have had to go back to my old Apple Keyboard. Anyone 
else having a problem like this with the Logictech 760
On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> David Woodbridge  created that podcast about six months ago in June. It was 
> titled Logitech Solar. I just listen to it yesterday.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Subject line says it all.  Where can I find it?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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Re: Mail setting

[Brian Fischler]

Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there it 
just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in Mavericks is so 
awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's way in to forcing 
people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I can't even get messages 
to open half the time when I hit return on a message, and the other half of the 
time a message will open and say empty scroll area for 20 seconds then lose VO 
focus and eventually get in to the message. Thanks Mavericks I feel like Mac 
Mail and at least my experience with it has sent computers back 20 years. Feels 
like I am trying to load a picture on a 56k prodigy account.
On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are in 
> the view. Check that out.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
>> classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
>> would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an image 
>> that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any idea 
>> where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail preferences, Vo 
>> verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply but can't seem to 
>> find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone knows please let me 
>> know. Thanks,
>> 
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YouView question

[Rob]

Hi,
Have any of you made a donation to the youview app?
if so, can you convert videos to mp3?
I checked the web site but didn't find the answer.

Thanks,
Rob
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Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

[Teresa Cochran]

Pam, I have a question for you or anyone else more familiar with the app than I 
am. Is there a way to display the channel names? Currently, the app shows 
what's on each channel, but doesn't display the name of the channel unless I 
start listening and tap on the actions button.

I did find the channel lineup here:
http://www.siriusxm.com/channellineup

thanks,
Teresa

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On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:22 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:

> Hello all,
> I have been a serious XM radio subscriber for years. Currently, I use the app 
> as it offers more for the price. For those who do not have anyone to assist 
> with labeling buttons, they are as follows from left to right on the iPhone 
> app categories, all  channels, favorites, Shows & on demand, my downloads.
> I have also found that once the buttons are labeld, they don't get lost   
> when the app updates. Hope this helps. 
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all. I would just like to report that I am using the trial, and did not 
> have to input any credit card information. Also, the iPhone app is not 
> completely accessible. There are several unlabeled buttons at the bottom. By 
> playing around, however, I suspect it will be quite usable.
> Christine
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 17:45, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Forgive the cross-post, but I thought this would apply to both lists.
>> 
>> I don't know how long this will be in effect, but SiriusXM is offering a 
>> 30-day free trial for new subscribers. You have to provide credit-card info, 
>> but you can call to cancel before the trial ends. I believe this offer is 
>> only available in the US. I started mine two days ago, and I'm having fun 
>> with it. There's olympic coverage of full US men's hockey, women's medal 
>> games, sports talk, sports play-by-play, and lots of music channels. The IOS 
>> app is completely accessible, but the computer app is not accessible at all.
>> 
>> here's the direct link:
>> http://www.siriusxm.com/freetrial
>> 
>> Have fun,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Teresa Cochran
>> batsfly...@me.com
>> Facebook
>> 
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Re: program for mac for typing in braille

[Robert C]

   Ok, definitely not out yet. 2009 is not the version we are 
interested in. The new version is now being actively worked on after DBT 
11.2 was released. And of course, we are not told what the time frame is.


Quote of the nanosecond . . .
We always hold hands. If I let go, she shops.
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On 2/16/2014 8:28 PM, David Tanner wrote:

The free (demo) version adds characters in the output document.  Of course
you probably don't mind so long as it is just for personal use, but you
would not want to give it to someone else.



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: program for mac for typing in braille

how do I get the free version? I cannot find the link.
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com



On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:27 PM, David tanner  wrote:


Actually there is a Duxberry for Mac now if that's what you're looking

for.




Sent from my iPod


On Feb 16, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Daniel Hawkins

 wrote:


If none answers this. The best thing I can come up right now for now is

use an updated Libre and ODT2 extention.


I don't have a braille display or an embosser, so I have no way to test

this.

Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs
8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot






On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Jessica  wrote:

hi,
What is a good braille translation program for typing in braille and if

necessary, translating it to print to check for errors before embossing?

Will textedit work for this? If so, can someone please tell me how?
Thanks,

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Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

[Jessica D]

Yes, it does.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:33 AM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> I take it this allows you through the app to listen to all stations?
> Can you label the buttons, or are they in the process of fixing them?
> When you’re in wifi range, does it use your wifi?
>  
> Cheers,
> Jed
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014
>  
> Hello all,
> I have been a serious XM radio subscriber for years. Currently, I use the app 
> as it offers more for the price. For those who do not have anyone to assist 
> with labeling buttons, they are as follows from left to right on the iPhone 
> app categories, all  channels, favorites, Shows & on demand, my downloads.
> I have also found that once the buttons are labeld, they don't get lost   
> when the app updates. Hope this helps. 
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all. I would just like to report that I am using the trial, and did not 
> have to input any credit card information. Also, the iPhone app is not 
> completely accessible. There are several unlabeled buttons at the bottom. By 
> playing around, however, I suspect it will be quite usable.
> Christine
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 17:45, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
>  
> Forgive the cross-post, but I thought this would apply to both lists.
>  
> I don’t know how long this will be in effect, but SiriusXM is offering a 
> 30-day free trial for new subscribers. You have to provide credit-card info, 
> but you can call to cancel before the trial ends. I believe this offer is 
> only available in the US. I started mine two days ago, and I’m having fun 
> with it. There’s olympic coverage of full US men’s hockey, women’s medal 
> games, sports talk, sports play-by-play, and lots of music channels. The IOS 
> app is completely accessible, but the computer app is not accessible at all.
>  
> here’s the direct link:
> http://www.siriusxm.com/freetrial
>  
> Have fun,
> Teresa
>  
> Teresa Cochran
> batsfly...@me.com
> Facebook
>  
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RE: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

I take it this allows you through the app to listen to all stations?

Can you label the buttons, or are they in the process of fixing them?

When you’re in wifi range, does it use your wifi?

 

Cheers,

Jed

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Francis
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

 

Hello all,

I have been a serious XM radio subscriber for years. Currently, I use the app 
as it offers more for the price. For those who do not have anyone to assist 
with labeling buttons, they are as follows from left to right on the iPhone app 
categories, all  channels, favorites, Shows & on demand, my downloads.

I have also found that once the buttons are labeld, they don't get lost   when 
the app updates. Hope this helps. 

Pam Francis


On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Christine Grassman  
wrote:

Hello all. I would just like to report that I am using the trial, and did not 
have to input any credit card information. Also, the iPhone app is not 
completely accessible. There are several unlabeled buttons at the bottom. By 
playing around, however, I suspect it will be quite usable.

Christine



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 16, 2014, at 17:45, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

Hi, all,

 

Forgive the cross-post, but I thought this would apply to both lists.

 

I don’t know how long this will be in effect, but SiriusXM is offering a 30-day 
free trial for new subscribers. You have to provide credit-card info, but you 
can call to cancel before the trial ends. I believe this offer is only 
available in the US. I started mine two days ago, and I’m having fun with it. 
There’s olympic coverage of full US men’s hockey, women’s medal games, sports 
talk, sports play-by-play, and lots of music channels. The IOS app is 
completely accessible, but the computer app is not accessible at all.

 

here’s the direct link:

http://www.siriusxm.com/freetrial

 

Have fun,

Teresa

 

Teresa Cochran

batsfly...@me.com

Facebook  

 

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Re: SiriusXM Radio online 30-day Free Trial as Of Today, 02/16/2014

[Pamela Francis]

Hello all,
I have been a serious XM radio subscriber for years. Currently, I use the app 
as it offers more for the price. For those who do not have anyone to assist 
with labeling buttons, they are as follows from left to right on the iPhone app 
categories, all  channels, favorites, Shows & on demand, my downloads.
I have also found that once the buttons are labeld, they don't get lost   when 
the app updates. Hope this helps. 

Pam Francis

On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Christine Grassman  
wrote:

Hello all. I would just like to report that I am using the trial, and did not 
have to input any credit card information. Also, the iPhone app is not 
completely accessible. There are several unlabeled buttons at the bottom. By 
playing around, however, I suspect it will be quite usable.
Christine


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2014, at 17:45, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Forgive the cross-post, but I thought this would apply to both lists.
> 
> I don’t know how long this will be in effect, but SiriusXM is offering a 
> 30-day free trial for new subscribers. You have to provide credit-card info, 
> but you can call to cancel before the trial ends. I believe this offer is 
> only available in the US. I started mine two days ago, and I’m having fun 
> with it. There’s olympic coverage of full US men’s hockey, women’s medal 
> games, sports talk, sports play-by-play, and lots of music channels. The IOS 
> app is completely accessible, but the computer app is not accessible at all.
> 
> here’s the direct link:
> http://www.siriusxm.com/freetrial
> 
> Have fun,
> Teresa
> 
> Teresa Cochran
> batsfly...@me.com
> Facebook
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RE: anti-virus/security software for the iMac

[Frank Ventura]

I think this is the dorrect link:
http://downloads.sophos.com/home-edition/savosx_90_he.zip

Frank

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Berry
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 4:28 PM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Re: anti-virus/security software for the iMac

This may be just on a different site I would suggest doing a google search for 
it.


On Feb 16, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

> Thanks Deb, This doesn't seem to show up in the App Store though. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
>> I have Sophos for Mac and have been very happy with it. The same 
>> installation also protect my windows Virtual Machine where we know we need 
>> virus software. But Sophos is very accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am not one to believe that the Apple universe is immune to hacking and 
>>> would like to get some recommendations for antivirus and security software 
>>> for our MBP and iMac. Any thoughts or recommendations?
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: selecting text on web pages

[isaac]

I looked through the voiceover help menu and I don't see any thing about select 
text by word or line but  to read by  word is control option w to read by line 
is control option l.  To read by current character it is  control option c.
On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> 
> Could someone please tell me the commands for selecting text by character, 
> word and line?
> 
> Thanks much.
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Re: need an iphone help

[Angelo]

they should be there
Angelo
a.rock...@gmail.com



On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Angelo  wrote:

> they should be free, if it's a iPhone 5 c or 5 s, go to the featured tab, 
> near the bottom you'll see apps made by Apple, double tap it and all your 
> free apps should be there.
> hth
> Angelo
> a.rock...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> i just bought an iPhone and this is my first iphone so i would like to ask 
>> everybody about the apps store. When i open the apps store, it pop up a 
>> update on pages garage band, itune etc, then i press not now. so i wonder 
>> how can i turn back to install all those things on my iphone? i tried to 
>> search for those apps on the apps store but now its not already free.. can 
>> somebody help me
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Re: trying to install fusion

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Wow, this is interesting.  So, after you c/p the installation file into the 
folder of choice, onceyou open the vm, or rather, run the vm, you should be 
able to run the installation file and install your screen reader?
That sounds much neater then fiddling around with narrater and going onto the 
web or fooling around with usb drives..
thanks!
Caitlyn

On Feb 17, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Joseph Norton  wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> Actually, if you have the installation files (like j14.xxx.exe) on the Mac, 
> you can copy and paste to the vm.
> 
> Just select the file in Mac OS, press command-c to copy.  Then, go into the 
> VM, make sure you are in the desktop or another folder (like Downloads) and 
> press command-v.  It will copy the file onto the Desktop or into the folder 
> you have open.  This has worked for me in Fusion 5, so I'm assuming it should 
> work in 65 as well.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  I actually never did try that.  However, after a while and still having it 
>> say fusion busy anytime we went to that window we decided to do a forced 
>> quit on the application and reopen it.  When we did this it suddenly brought 
>> up the screen where we could start installing windows allowing us to 
>> complete this task.
>>  However, now I have a follow up question which I'm not sure how to do just 
>> yet.  Now that I have windows installed in fusion and I have narrator up and 
>> running I'm trying to figure out how exactly I can copy say my jaws 
>> installation from my dropbox on the mac OS to fusion so that I can install 
>> it on windows there.  Any idea how I go about doing this so that I can get 
>> windows fully up and running with jaws and therefore allow my wife to fully 
>> take advantage of having windows on her mac?
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Shannon Gerdts
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Terje Strømberg
>> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:08 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Terje Strømberg
>> Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
>> 
>> Have you tried to turn off Voice Over and turn it on again?
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 16. feb. 2014 kl. 01:01 skrev Shannon Gerdts :
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> So I'm currently in the process of trying to install fusion on my wife's 
>> laptop.  However, after we told it to continue after putting in our license 
>> key it just sits there saying fusion busy.  Anyone know why this would be or 
>> how we can find out what's going on so that we can finish getting it 
>> installed and get to installing windows?
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Shannon Gerdts
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selecting text on web pages

[Scott Berry]

Hello everyone.

Could someone please tell me the commands for selecting text by character, word 
and line?

Thanks much.

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Re: how to delete ann iTunes library

[Scott Berry]

I figured out how to delete the library.  But yeah that probably would be easer.


On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

> Wouldn't it be easier for you to select songs and create a playlist of theM?
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 13.02.2014 um 13:39 schrieb Scott Berry :
> 
>> When in the iTunes library it shows checkboxes are checked.  I am assuming 
>> these checkboxes tell iTunes what songs you want to hear but I want to 
>> uncheck them so I can pick my on.  They are in the song view just to the 
>> left of the name of the song your playing.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> it works the other way round: create a new library by holding the option 
>>> key down while you are starting iTunes. Now you can choose wether to create 
>>> a new one or to choose from another source.
>>> 
>>> I didn't get waht you ment by the second question.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> Am 11.02.2014 um 13:39 schrieb Scott Berry :
>>> 
 Hello there,
 
 A couple questions about the library.
 
 1.  How do you delete the library?
 
 2.  How do I ensure that none of the check boxes are checked once the 
 library is imported?
 
 Thanks a bunch.
 
 Scott
 
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Re: need an iphone help

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

ok how about pages?

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Re: program for mac for typing in braille

[Jessica D]

So will textedit meet my needs?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> I believe it is still in beta.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:28 PM, "David Tanner "  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The free (demo) version adds characters in the output document.  Of course
>> you probably don't mind so long as it is just for personal use, but you
>> would not want to give it to someone else.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica
>> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:40 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: program for mac for typing in braille
>> 
>> how do I get the free version? I cannot find the link.
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:27 PM, David tanner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually there is a Duxberry for Mac now if that's what you're looking
>> for.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Daniel Hawkins
>>  wrote:
 
 If none answers this. The best thing I can come up right now for now is
>> use an updated Libre and ODT2 extention.
 
 I don't have a braille display or an embosser, so I have no way to test
>> this.
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 
 8gb, as media player
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 NVDA installed
 
 Phonak Compilot
 
 
 
 
 
> On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Jessica  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> What is a good braille translation program for typing in braille and if
>> necessary, translating it to print to check for errors before embossing?
> Will textedit work for this? If so, can someone please tell me how?
> Thanks,
> 
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: trying to install fusion

[Joseph Norton]

Hi:

Actually, if you have the installation files (like j14.xxx.exe) on the Mac, you 
can copy and paste to the vm.

Just select the file in Mac OS, press command-c to copy.  Then, go into the VM, 
make sure you are in the desktop or another folder (like Downloads) and press 
command-v.  It will copy the file onto the Desktop or into the folder you have 
open.  This has worked for me in Fusion 5, so I'm assuming it should work in 65 
as well.

Hope this helps.


On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:

> Hello,
>   I actually never did try that.  However, after a while and still having it 
> say fusion busy anytime we went to that window we decided to do a forced quit 
> on the application and reopen it.  When we did this it suddenly brought up 
> the screen where we could start installing windows allowing us to complete 
> this task.
>   However, now I have a follow up question which I'm not sure how to do just 
> yet.  Now that I have windows installed in fusion and I have narrator up and 
> running I'm trying to figure out how exactly I can copy say my jaws 
> installation from my dropbox on the mac OS to fusion so that I can install it 
> on windows there.  Any idea how I go about doing this so that I can get 
> windows fully up and running with jaws and therefore allow my wife to fully 
> take advantage of having windows on her mac?
> 
> Take care,
> Shannon Gerdts
> 
> -Original Message- From: Terje Strømberg
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:08 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Terje Strømberg
> Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
> 
> Have you tried to turn off Voice Over and turn it on again?
> 
> Take care
> 
> 16. feb. 2014 kl. 01:01 skrev Shannon Gerdts :
> 
> Hello everyone,
> So I'm currently in the process of trying to install fusion on my wife's 
> laptop.  However, after we told it to continue after putting in our license 
> key it just sits there saying fusion busy.  Anyone know why this would be or 
> how we can find out what's going on so that we can finish getting it 
> installed and get to installing windows?
> 
> Take care,
> Shannon Gerdts
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Re: The Fellowship Of The Ring audiobook. Is this a duplicate?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Seems to me you might be dealing with a book in two parts, but, not sure.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Daniel McGee  
wrote:

> Hello all, I am thinking of purchasing The Lord Of The Rings trilogy by J.R.R 
> Tolkion. The unabridged version. For christmas I received an iTunes gift card 
> and and will be using that credit to go towards the purchase. However, I have 
> a question.
> There are two books per each story and that's fine but what I am confused 
> about is that for The Fellowship Of the Rings there appears to be two volumes 
> of volume 1 if that makes sense.
> Also with this, I have noticed that one version is about 14 hours and 22 
> minutes. The other is, 19 hours and 8 minutes. Also, the publishing date is 
> one month apart from each other. This is why I am wondering could this 
> possibly be some sort of duplication going on here?
> Obviously, I am hesitant to go and purchase one and for all I know, one may 
> need them both because I've looked at the reviews and some are saying there 
> are chapters that are skipped and some not in there rightful places in the 
> book.
> So as you can see, don't want to go and buy one and find I may need the other 
> even with iTunes credit added to by because even that would technically be a 
> waste of credit too if the book isn't in its rightful order too.
> 
> Just wondered if anyone here has brought the book on iTunes and what you 
> think about the double of volume 1 of the Fellowship?
> The others in the trilogy appears to have two books each so there's no 
> doubleness going on here per a volume of a book if that makes sense with the 
> exception of the 1st volume of The Fellowship Of The Ring.
> 
> I hope that sort of clear.
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated. 
> Just to close in general, when one wants to buy an audiobook on iTunes I have 
> noticed there can be quite a few narations of a book and they also vary in 
> price.
> For those audiobook lovers, who may buy regularly from iTunes what would you 
> do in this situation?
> 
> Any feedback is welcome.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Daniel
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