Re: Netflix and apple tv

[eileen . misrahi]

Well!!! I join the ranks of owning a second generation Apple TV too. Waiting 
for the new release sometime the near future. At least I know I'm in good 
company who are in the same boat.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
> 
> Considering that they're $69.95 new, I doubt you'd get a lot cheaper for a 
> refurb, if indeed they sell them as refurb. 
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>> On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Darn! 
>> That is disappointing! Hmm. I’ll have to see if I can pickup a refurrbished 
>> one.
>>> On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same. Sarai, I think yu and I are out of luck. We don't get the latest 
>>> AppleTV OS, which is probably where this stuff exists, so we've got to buy 
>>> new AppleTV's. I'm waiting do see if anything interesting happens on that 
>>> front in the next little bit before I do anything about that. I don't watch 
>>> enough TV to warrant hurrying. 
>>> 
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>>> 
 On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
 Hello:
 I have a 2nd gen Apple TV. I cannot get audio description to activate. I 
 tried pressing and holding select while a show is playing, and none of the 
 language options appear, or if they appear, VO won’t read them. I’ve tried 
 signing back out and in to Netflix again. My Apple TV rebooted during a 
 storm, so it reset. I’m running the latest iOS. Any idea?
 Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
 
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Re: Netflix and apple tv

[Buddy Brannan]

Considering that they're $69.95 new, I doubt you'd get a lot cheaper for a 
refurb, if indeed they sell them as refurb. 

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> On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Darn! 
> That is disappointing! Hmm. I’ll have to see if I can pickup a refurrbished 
> one.
>> On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
>> 
>> Same. Sarai, I think yu and I are out of luck. We don't get the latest 
>> AppleTV OS, which is probably where this stuff exists, so we've got to buy 
>> new AppleTV's. I'm waiting do see if anything interesting happens on that 
>> front in the next little bit before I do anything about that. I don't watch 
>> enough TV to warrant hurrying. 
>> 
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>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>> Email: bu...@brannan.name
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> I have a 2nd gen Apple TV. I cannot get audio description to activate. I 
>>> tried pressing and holding select while a show is playing, and none of the 
>>> language options appear, or if they appear, VO won’t read them. I’ve tried 
>>> signing back out and in to Netflix again. My Apple TV rebooted during a 
>>> storm, so it reset. I’m running the latest iOS. Any idea?
>>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: Netflix and apple tv

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Darn! 
That is disappointing! Hmm. I’ll have to see if I can pickup a refurrbished one.
> On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
> 
> Same. Sarai, I think yu and I are out of luck. We don't get the latest 
> AppleTV OS, which is probably where this stuff exists, so we've got to buy 
> new AppleTV's. I'm waiting do see if anything interesting happens on that 
> front in the next little bit before I do anything about that. I don't watch 
> enough TV to warrant hurrying. 
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>> On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> I have a 2nd gen Apple TV. I cannot get audio description to activate. I 
>> tried pressing and holding select while a show is playing, and none of the 
>> language options appear, or if they appear, VO won’t read them. I’ve tried 
>> signing back out and in to Netflix again. My Apple TV rebooted during a 
>> storm, so it reset. I’m running the latest iOS. Any idea?
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: Document translation as a blind person using VO

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

He, if she has internet and a computer, tell her to google the round table 
mailing list. It is a list for blind interpriters and translators.
> On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> A colleague on another list knows of a woman who lives in Brazil. This woman 
> is losing her site. She works as a freelance translator between English and 
> Portuguese. I am quite sure there are people on this list who do document 
> translation using a Mac and voiceover. Would any of you be willing to write 
> to me off list at this address:
> maryot...@comcast.net
> 
> And let me know of your experiences and also whether or not you are willing 
> to be in direct contact with this woman so you might help her.
> Mary
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Re: What about Logic Pro?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Logic Pro X (specifically, Pro X,) is somewhat doable.  It depends on what 
exactly you're wanting to do.  Editting can be done, though it's a little bit 
of a challenge.  Midi, can be triggered, but if you're trying to use the  event 
editer, then forget it!

Loops can be copied and inserted into a project fairly easily.  As for working 
with effects like E Q, compression, reverb/delay, and such, I think it really 
depends on the plugin you're using.

Though definitely more pricy, I would strongly strongly recommend using 
ProTools V12 instead.  Again, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to 
accomplish being you said you're very basic.  To be honest, both Logic, as well 
as ProTools might wind up being way overkill for what you need.

For me, I absolutely, must must must must! use ProTools.  Me being a 
professional musician, and being that I do a crap load of both mixing/editting 
and masterring, I don't have much of a choice.

Before anyone asks me on or off list, I wanna do midi editting, if I get PT12, 
will that work better for this, the answer is, yes and! no.

The midi editter, (***Not!***!) to be confused with the midi event! editer, is 
quite doable with a little bit of practice getting the hang of it.  That said, 
the event editer is a complete disaster!  I think Avid is working on this 
though.  I know they're at least aware of it.  That's really all I'm at liberty 
to say.

No, I'm not a tester or anything, but I know someone who will remain nameless 
who is.

Anyway, for the most part, it works fantastically.  It, being PT12 in a whole.

If you wanna learn more about it, there is a list for us PT users who are blind 
that you can join to acquire more info.  It's fairly decently low traffic.  I'd 
say, low to moderate.

ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Leave both the body, and the subject fields empty.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:58 PM
  Subject: What about Logic Pro?


  Hi All.
  Compared with Garageband 10.1, is Logic Pro more usable by a blind 
perspective or not?


  In your opinion, for a non advanced user, worth to buy Logic Pro instead of 
using Garageband 10.1?


  Thanks.
  —
  Namasté!
  Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)



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Re: Netflix and apple tv

[Buddy Brannan]

Same. Sarai, I think yu and I are out of luck. We don't get the latest AppleTV 
OS, which is probably where this stuff exists, so we've got to buy new 
AppleTV's. I'm waiting do see if anything interesting happens on that front in 
the next little bit before I do anything about that. I don't watch enough TV to 
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> On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I have a 2nd gen Apple TV. I cannot get audio description to activate. I 
> tried pressing and holding select while a show is playing, and none of the 
> language options appear, or if they appear, VO won’t read them. I’ve tried 
> signing back out and in to Netflix again. My Apple TV rebooted during a 
> storm, so it reset. I’m running the latest iOS. Any idea?
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: Netflix and apple tv

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

Audio description only works on the third generation. You can, however, use an 
iPhone or iPad and get Netflix descriptions and then airplay the show including 
descriptions to the Apple TV. The second gen cannot run the latest Apple TV 
update which is required for audio description.

Robert Carter


> On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I have a 2nd gen Apple TV. I cannot get audio description to activate. I 
> tried pressing and holding select while a show is playing, and none of the 
> language options appear, or if they appear, VO won’t read them. I’ve tried 
> signing back out and in to Netflix again. My Apple TV rebooted during a 
> storm, so it reset. I’m running the latest iOS. Any idea?
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: Now, I'm really! perplexed!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

And, you just made me even more! perplexed.  What the heck are you talking 
about!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerard Doody" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Now, I'm really! perplexed!


I will replay the game and get back to you, but my point on sending move 10 
was that my H pawn is the one that was on the g file and I show two pawns on 
the f file.  Anyway, I will replay the game and, if you haven’t already done 
so, I would suggest you do the same.  I will get back to you soon
On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:33 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys, I booted to a USB drive I have made with Super Dooper which had 
Mavericks 9.5 on it.  I know that is a little older, but I wanted to see if 
my braille display issue I wrote about earlier would occur over there.  What 
the heck do ya know!  It does!  I even tried on my friend's mac to boot to 
that same image, and on his system once booted into that Mavericks drive, 
the problem appears.  On his mac though it doesn't occur.


The only thing I haven't yet done is to make a super doop image of his 
partition, boot it on my system and see if the issue goes away.  If it does, 
I'll image his mac over to my internal drive, then just get him to go 
through and remove all his personal stuff, and then we'll sign into my! 
ICloud, ITunes, and what not instead.


That literally, guys, is the only other thing I can think to do!  I've even 
done a permission repair, verify disk, and repair disk.


This is just totally the oddest! thing I've seen!

Chris.


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Netflix and apple tv

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hello:
I have a 2nd gen Apple TV. I cannot get audio description to activate. I tried 
pressing and holding select while a show is playing, and none of the language 
options appear, or if they appear, VO won’t read them. I’ve tried signing back 
out and in to Netflix again. My Apple TV rebooted during a storm, so it reset. 
I’m running the latest iOS. Any idea?
Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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FS: loaded mac book pro...

[Cameron Strife]

Hi everyone. Please write me off list to make an offer. Pay pal only. Thanks!

15 inch mac book pro, no issues, specs include unibody aluminum case,
Intel quad core I7 processor at 2.5gHz per core, 16gb of ddr3 ram, 1tb
hard drive, thunderbolt, firewire 800, sd card reader, multi touch
glass trackpad, microphone, stereo speakers, hd facetime web cam,
superdrive, Kensington lock slot, airport wireless, bluetooth etc.
Includes charger and will come with a clean install of the latest
version of OSX. (You can also install windows seven, eight, eight
point one, and windows ten when it's released if you wish either
natively, or, as a virtual machine.)

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Re: Apple TV No Content Found Error

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I had the same problem with iTunes yesterday.  I keep getting the message 
ITunes could not complete your iTunes store request.  I am guessing that the 
system was down.

Matthew


> On Jul 21, 2015, at 8:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all, Amazing only one day with the Apple TV and everything worked 
> yesterday. Today under anything in my music I am getting a No content found 
> message any time I try and play anything. Everything is showing up but 
> nothing will play and a google search just seems to find people with this 
> issue and no solution. I have restarted the Apple TV and still am getting the 
> error message. I am connected to my home network as Netflix works just fine. 
> Any ideas? Thanks,
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Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Denise Barajas]

Hello, this option can usuallybe toggled if you have a trackpad active by
tripple finger double tapping on the trackpad in the middle of your screen
to switch the setting. If you are not having this option active with the
trackpad, then you will have to solicit assistance from someone that's
sighted. I hopet this helps you.

Blessings to you.

regards



On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Good morning, all.
>
> I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the
> usual “voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn
> voiceover on. I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an
> easy way to get speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the
> first place, but, since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is
> off, the machine is not usable at this point.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Kristeen
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What about Logic Pro?

['Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries]

Hi All.
Compared with Garageband 10.1, is Logic Pro more usable by a blind perspective 
or not?

In your opinion, for a non advanced user, worth to buy Logic Pro instead of 
using Garageband 10.1?

Thanks.
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RE: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

[george b]

Thanks man I will go there

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

 

For anyone who still doesn’t know, the Apple developer form discussion for El 
Capitan is open to the public at 
https://forums.developer.apple.com/community/pre-release/os-x-1011-beta.  You 
don’t need an account to view it, but am not sure about posting.

 

I don’t need to hear from everyone  having this problem, but I would like to 
hear from people who are not encountering this.

Thanks.

 

On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:13 PM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Not any more with me I did not know sory

 

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[  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:07
To: MacVisionaries <  
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

 

The beta is not under any NDA.

How many times do we have to go over this?


On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:02:21 PM UTC-5, gbmagoo wrote:

And why you talking about the beta? 

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[mailto:macvisi...@  googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barry Hadder 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 09:45 
To: macvisi...@  googlegroups.com 
Subject: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan 

I’m wondering if anyone else is having the following issue on 10.11. 
When a bluetooth audio device is connected and The output audio device in vo 
utility is set to built-in, speech still goes through the bluetooth audio 
rather than the built-in. 
Thanks. 

Barry Hadder 
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Re: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

[Barry Hadder]

For anyone who still doesn’t know, the Apple developer form discussion for El 
Capitan is open to the public at 
https://forums.developer.apple.com/community/pre-release/os-x-1011-beta 
.  You 
don’t need an account to view it, but am not sure about posting.

I don’t need to hear from everyone  having this problem, but I would like to 
hear from people who are not encountering this.
Thanks.

On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:13 PM, george b  wrote:

Not any more with me I did not know sory
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
] On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:07
To: MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan
 
The beta is not under any NDA.
How many times do we have to go over this?

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:02:21 PM UTC-5, gbmagoo wrote:
> And why you talking about the beta? 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: macvisi...@ <>googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:macvisi...@ <>googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Barry Hadder 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 09:45 
> To: macvisi...@ <>googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan 
> 
> I’m wondering if anyone else is having the following issue on 10.11. 
> When a bluetooth audio device is connected and The output audio device in vo 
> utility is set to built-in, speech still goes through the bluetooth audio 
> rather than the built-in. 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Barry Hadder 
> bha...@ <>gmail.com  
> 
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Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Caitlyn Furness]

Basically, when voiceover is off, it’s completely off, and you as a blind 
person can’t use the features of VO.

when voiceover is on, but speech is muted, if you have a braille display 
attached, you can still use that, and magnification is still on, so if you have 
partial vision, you can use it, it just won’t talk.

On the i phone, you can turn speech off with a three finger double tap-it’s 
very easy to do this by mistake!  Doing the gesture again toggles it back on 
again.

hth,
Caitlyn

> On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
>  
> This is interesting!!  Can someone please explain to me what the difference 
> is between VoiceOver being on and Speach On/off?  I get this a lot on my I 
> Phone 6, but I haven’t encountered it on the Mac Book Pro. 
>  
> And, can any one explain to me why when Voice Over is On you’d have to unmute 
> it?  It just doesn’t make sense to me. I always thought that once Voice Over 
> is on its there to be used with an option to stop/pause it from reading or 
> speaking, but I never realized it could be muted. .
>  
> Sorry if these are super basic questions, but I’m new to the Mac and not 
> getting used to it. 
>  
> Thanks for any clarifications.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
> From: Matthew Dierckens 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro
>  
> Good morning Christine,
> Once voiceover is on, if you do a three finger double tap on your trackpad, 
> you should hear the phrase, "voiceover and muted." good luck.
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> Certified Assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh trainer
> Canadian phone: 5199629140
> U.S. Phone: 5734011018
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 22, 2015, at 06:33, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> > 
> > Good morning, all.
> > 
> > I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the 
> > usual “voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn 
> > voiceover on. I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an 
> > easy way to get speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the 
> > first place, but, since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is 
> > off, the machine is not usable at this point.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Kristeen
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Document translation as a blind person using VO

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
A colleague on another list knows of a woman who lives in Brazil. This woman is 
losing her site. She works as a freelance translator between English and 
Portuguese. I am quite sure there are people on this list who do document 
translation using a Mac and voiceover. Would any of you be willing to write to 
me off list at this address:
maryot...@comcast.net

And let me know of your experiences and also whether or not you are willing to 
be in direct contact with this woman so you might help her.
Mary


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RE: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

[george b]

Not any more with me I did not know sory

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:07
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

 

The beta is not under any NDA.

How many times do we have to go over this?


On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:02:21 PM UTC-5, gbmagoo wrote:

And why you talking about the beta? 

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[mailto:macvisi...@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of Barry Hadder 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 09:45 
To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com   
Subject: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan 

I’m wondering if anyone else is having the following issue on 10.11. 
When a bluetooth audio device is connected and The output audio device in vo 
utility is set to built-in, speech still goes through the bluetooth audio 
rather than the built-in. 
Thanks. 

Barry Hadder 
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Re: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

[Barry Hadder]

The beta is not under any NDA.
How many times do we have to go over this?

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:02:21 PM UTC-5, gbmagoo wrote:
>
> And why you talking about the beta? 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> macvisi...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Barry Hadder 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 09:45 
> To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan 
>
> I’m wondering if anyone else is having the following issue on 10.11. 
> When a bluetooth audio device is connected and The output audio device in 
> vo utility is set to built-in, speech still goes through the bluetooth 
> audio rather than the built-in. 
> Thanks. 
>
> Barry Hadder 
> bha...@gmail.com  
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RE: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

[george b]

And why you talking about the beta?

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 09:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

I’m wondering if anyone else is having the following issue on 10.11.
When a bluetooth audio device is connected and The output audio device in vo 
utility is set to built-in, speech still goes through the bluetooth audio 
rather than the built-in.
Thanks.

Barry Hadder
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Voiceover and Bludetooth Audio On El Capitan

[Barry Hadder]

I’m wondering if anyone else is having the following issue on 10.11.
When a bluetooth audio device is connected and The output audio device in vo 
utility is set to built-in, speech still goes through the bluetooth audio 
rather than the built-in.
Thanks.

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Re: Now, I'm really! perplexed!

[Gerard Doody]

I will replay the game and get back to you, but my point on sending move 10 was 
that my H pawn is the one that was on the g file and I show two pawns on the f 
file.  Anyway, I will replay the game and, if you haven’t already done so, I 
would suggest you do the same.  I will get back to you soon  
On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:33 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Guys, I booted to a USB drive I have made with Super Dooper which had Mavericks 
9.5 on it.  I know that is a little older, but I wanted to see if my braille 
display issue I wrote about earlier would occur over there.  What the heck do 
ya know!  It does!  I even tried on my friend's mac to boot to that same image, 
and on his system once booted into that Mavericks drive, the problem appears.  
On his mac though it doesn't occur.
 
The only thing I haven't yet done is to make a super doop image of his 
partition, boot it on my system and see if the issue goes away.  If it does, 
I'll image his mac over to my internal drive, then just get him to go through 
and remove all his personal stuff, and then we'll sign into my! ICloud, ITunes, 
and what not instead.
 
That literally, guys, is the only other thing I can think to do!  I've even 
done a permission repair, verify disk, and repair disk.
 
This is just totally the oddest! thing I've seen!
 
Chris.
 

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Question about Apple ID

[gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net]

Hello,
When I enter my Apple ID and password to accept the updates, it says:
This Apple ID has not been used with itunes store.
I press the review button, enter the same info, but it keeps giving the same 
message.
Would anyone please explain what I have to do? Thanks,
Rena


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Fw: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Eileen Scrivani]

Thanks, this makes complete sense.  So, when I’ve been 3-finger double tapping 
to silence VO I’ve been muting it, but not unloading or turning it off. Now I 
get it! 

Eileen


From: Tristan 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

Hi Eileen,

 

The option to mute VoiceOver is available because there are some users that 
wish to keep VO active, but don’t want it to abruptly interrupt audio, such as 
videos or music. Primarily, however, I believe it is an option because there 
are people who use Braille with VoiceOver, and don’t want the speech aspect. 
Imagine a classroom or office situation, where you lack headphones but have a 
Braille display. This would be useful then so VO speech isn’t blaring out of 
the speakers of your computer.

 

HTH

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

 

 

This is interesting!!  Can someone please explain to me what the difference is 
between VoiceOver being on and Speach On/off?  I get this a lot on my I Phone 
6, but I haven’t encountered it on the Mac Book Pro.  

 

And, can any one explain to me why when Voice Over is On you’d have to unmute 
it?  It just doesn’t make sense to me. I always thought that once Voice Over is 
on its there to be used with an option to stop/pause it from reading or 
speaking, but I never realized it could be muted. .

 

Sorry if these are super basic questions, but I’m new to the Mac and not 
getting used to it.  

 

Thanks for any clarifications.

 

Eileen 

 

 

From: Matthew Dierckens 

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:52 AM

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

 

Good morning Christine,
Once voiceover is on, if you do a three finger double tap on your trackpad, you 
should hear the phrase, "voiceover and muted." good luck.

Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer
Canadian phone: 5199629140
U.S. Phone: 5734011018
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2015, at 06:33, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all.
> 
> I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the usual 
> “voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn voiceover 
> on. I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an easy way to 
> get speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the first place, 
> but, since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is off, the machine 
> is not usable at this point.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: how to copy contacts from one account to another?

[Joe Quinn]

thnks for the help. what I ended up doing, was to message myself with them, and 
then create new contacts with the resulting contacts. and, yes, Ih googled it, 
and didn't want to have to go to the Gmail site to do it. :) thanks again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Joe,
> 
> If you Google this, you will find that there are two basic ways to accomplish 
> your goal.  
> 
> The first method is to use your web browser to log into your gMail account 
> and export your Contacts List as a vCard file; then, log into your iCloud 
> account and import that file.  As there are hundreds and hundreds of easy to 
> follow step-by-step articles on this, I will not list them here.  
> 
> The second method, which is the one I use, when moving people from an Android 
> device to an iPhone, is to attach the vCard file that was created when 
> exporting from gMail, to an email and send that email to the device to which 
> I want to import the Contacts.
> 
> In short, if you open a vCard attached file on an iPhone, and presumably in 
> the Mail application on the Mac although I have not personally done so, a 
> dialog box appears asking if you want to add the list of Contacts to your 
> Contacts list.  Simply confirm this option and you're done.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: how to copy contacts from one account to another?
> 
> I've got contacts that I accidentally created under my gmail account, but 
> want to transfer them to my iclouth account, without having to reenter 
> everything into the contacts app under my icloud account. I'm sure there's a 
> way to do this, but how? :)
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an itunes library/apple music question

[Joe Quinn]

I've gotten about 21,000 or so tracks courtesy of apple music, and on september 
30, I'll end up losing them. that is, if I don't pay for it. now, is there a 
way I can have a backup listing of everything I've "rented," from apple music 
so if I decide to go back to it, I can redownload them? cause I'll never 
remember what i'd "rented." Doubt there's a way to get the output of the 
library, but. :) thfor any help you can shed on this.

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Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Andrew Lamanche]

The "speech on and off" feature is useful if you for example use a refreshable 
Braille display and want to read quietly in Braille without Voiceover getting 
in the way.  Also, I sometimes listen to a stream in Safari or itunes and read 
in Braille using refreshable Braille so I don't want voiceover saying anything. 
 In order to use refreshable Braille display you need to have Voiceover 
running.  That's why you can mute the speech without losing all the 
functionality of Voiceover.
> On 22 Jul 2015, at 13:52, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
>  
> This is interesting!!  Can someone please explain to me what the difference 
> is between VoiceOver being on and Speach On/off?  I get this a lot on my I 
> Phone 6, but I haven’t encountered it on the Mac Book Pro. 
>  
> And, can any one explain to me why when Voice Over is On you’d have to unmute 
> it?  It just doesn’t make sense to me. I always thought that once Voice Over 
> is on its there to be used with an option to stop/pause it from reading or 
> speaking, but I never realized it could be muted. .
>  
> Sorry if these are super basic questions, but I’m new to the Mac and not 
> getting used to it. 
>  
> Thanks for any clarifications.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
> From: Matthew Dierckens 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro
>  
> Good morning Christine,
> Once voiceover is on, if you do a three finger double tap on your trackpad, 
> you should hear the phrase, "voiceover and muted." good luck.
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> Certified Assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh trainer
> Canadian phone: 5199629140
> U.S. Phone: 5734011018
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 22, 2015, at 06:33, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> > 
> > Good morning, all.
> > 
> > I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the 
> > usual “voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn 
> > voiceover on. I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an 
> > easy way to get speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the 
> > first place, but, since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is 
> > off, the machine is not usable at this point.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Kristeen
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RE: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Tristan]

Hi Eileen,

 

The option to mute VoiceOver is available because there are some users that 
wish to keep VO active, but don’t want it to abruptly interrupt audio, such as 
videos or music. Primarily, however, I believe it is an option because there 
are people who use Braille with VoiceOver, and don’t want the speech aspect. 
Imagine a classroom or office situation, where you lack headphones but have a 
Braille display. This would be useful then so VO speech isn’t blaring out of 
the speakers of your computer.

 

HTH

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

 

 

This is interesting!!  Can someone please explain to me what the difference is 
between VoiceOver being on and Speach On/off?  I get this a lot on my I Phone 
6, but I haven’t encountered it on the Mac Book Pro.  

 

And, can any one explain to me why when Voice Over is On you’d have to unmute 
it?  It just doesn’t make sense to me. I always thought that once Voice Over is 
on its there to be used with an option to stop/pause it from reading or 
speaking, but I never realized it could be muted. .

 

Sorry if these are super basic questions, but I’m new to the Mac and not 
getting used to it.  

 

Thanks for any clarifications.

 

Eileen 

 

 

From: Matthew Dierckens   

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:52 AM

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

 

Good morning Christine,
Once voiceover is on, if you do a three finger double tap on your trackpad, you 
should hear the phrase, "voiceover and muted." good luck.

Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer
Canadian phone: 5199629140
U.S. Phone: 5734011018
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2015, at 06:33, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all.
> 
> I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the usual 
> “voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn voiceover 
> on. I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an easy way to 
> get speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the first place, 
> but, since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is off, the machine 
> is not usable at this point.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kristeen
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Fw: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Eileen Scrivani]

This is interesting!!  Can someone please explain to me what the difference is 
between VoiceOver being on and Speach On/off?  I get this a lot on my I Phone 
6, but I haven’t encountered it on the Mac Book Pro.  

And, can any one explain to me why when Voice Over is On you’d have to unmute 
it?  It just doesn’t make sense to me. I always thought that once Voice Over is 
on its there to be used with an option to stop/pause it from reading or 
speaking, but I never realized it could be muted. .

Sorry if these are super basic questions, but I’m new to the Mac and not 
getting used to it.  

Thanks for any clarifications.

Eileen 


From: Matthew Dierckens 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

Good morning Christine,
Once voiceover is on, if you do a three finger double tap on your trackpad, you 
should hear the phrase, "voiceover and muted." good luck.

Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer
Canadian phone: 5199629140
U.S. Phone: 5734011018
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2015, at 06:33, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all.
> 
> I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the usual 
> “voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn voiceover 
> on. I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an easy way to 
> get speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the first place, 
> but, since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is off, the machine 
> is not usable at this point.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Matthew Dierckens]

Good morning Christine,
Once voiceover is on, if you do a three finger double tap on your trackpad, you 
should hear the phrase, "voiceover and muted." good luck.

Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer
Canadian phone: 5199629140
U.S. Phone: 5734011018
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2015, at 06:33, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all.
> 
> I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the usual 
> “voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn voiceover 
> on. I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an easy way to 
> get speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the first place, 
> but, since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is off, the machine 
> is not usable at this point.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kristeen
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VoiceOver On, Speech Off, on a MacBook Pro

[Kristeen Hughes]

Good morning, all.

I have a MacBook Pro that I booted up this morning. It didn’t speak the usual 
“voiceover is running” greetings, so I did a command f 5 to turn voiceover on. 
I was told that VO was on, but speech was off. Is there an easy way to get 
speech back on? I’m not sure how it got turned off in the first place, but, 
since it says nothing once it tells me that speech is off, the machine is not 
usable at this point.

Thanks in advance.

Kristeen

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Re: deezer, was Re: Apple Music

[Piotr Machacz]

Yeah, there is. If you go to an artist page, go into the table that lists their 
top tracks, albums and so on and, using vo-up go to the very top and you’ll see 
buttons to add that artist to favourites or start a mix. The one thing you 
can’t do within the app though is actually view what artists you’ve favourited, 
but once you favourite someone it will influence recommendations and you will 
be notified every time they release something new.
> On 21 Jul 2015, at 18:11, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> You are right! Did not find the Deezer app in app store for mac. 
> 
> Having a look at it now. Then, will have a closer look later. There seems to 
> be options for playlists and album as favorites. Is there an option to add 
> artists in a table too?
> 
> Take care
> 
> 21. juli 2015 kl. 16:35 skrev Piotr Machacz :
> 
> Slight correction, Deezer does in fact have a mac client, look it up on 
> Applevis. It was the thing that prompted me to try it in the first place as 
> well as a promotion they ran in Poland in June. It’s a very simple app, but 
> that’s what makes it very good. 99% of it is all native OS X controls, the 
> only thing that’s a web view is your recommendation feed. The only thing that 
> could be a problem to some on this list is that, even though they’re 
> available in I think over a hundred countries, the US isn’t one of them. 
> Well, sort of, because if you’re in the US you can only sign up for Deezer if 
> you got a Sonos speaker and then you get their lossless flac plan. For 
> everyone else, there’s a free tear that gives you unlimited listening with 
> some ads at 128KBPS, and the mobile app will only let you start either your 
> flow or artist mix, searching for specific tracks is only possible on desktop 
> IE the Mac app. Then you can pay about 5 euros a month for premium that lets 
> you listen at 320 kbps, you get unlimited skipping, offline downloads and you 
> can play your playlists and search in the mobile app.
> 
>> On 21 Jul 2015, at 02:37, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Deezer is the same type of streaming app like Apple Music and Spotify. Not 
>> for mac though. IOS and Android and Sonos and probably other streaming 
>> hardware devices.Can stream lossless cd quality if you subscribe for that. 
>> Seems to work very well with voice over on IOS devices. If the Sonos app for 
>> mac had been more accessible with voice over, many could use it on mac via 
>> Sonos connect streaming box.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 21. juli 2015 kl. 00:10 skrev Joshua Tubbs :
>> 
>> If I may ask, what is Deezer? Never heard of it.
>> 
>>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:51 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can’t help accept to agree with you about apple music compared to the 
>>> others
>>> you can’t add artists to anything as far as i can tell it’s got to be added 
>>> album by album
>>> 
>>> deedra waters
>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Terje Strømberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 One good thing about Apple Music compare to the competition is that it 
 plays more albums from each artist. For example, Boz Scaggs song - Thanks 
 To You from the album - The Essential Boz Scaggs. A beautiful song. Can 
 not play this song in Deezer. Neither Tidal. There are more artists like 
 Metallica. This is a hugh advantage. Probably because of the drm in Apple 
 Music.
 
 Apple Music is more difficult to use than the competition. Go figure. Its 
 faster with Deezer to add artists in library for example.
 
 Is there a favorite button hidden somewhere in iTunes and IOS music, that 
 adds artists in library after hitting the artist name after serch result 
 for the first time? So many commands before adding artist it looks like. 
 Maybe this will be fixed later. I am sure i saw some options settings 
 somewhere in iTunes Apple Music on mac, but it is gone, can’t find it 
 again.
 
 Take care
 
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