date:20150828

Cara, Very well said, I for one thank you for the great work you put 
through the group and the help you give others.
I joined the list because i am very new to the mac world of products and 
am glad to finally find a list that could be of some help.

If i may ask what version of OSX did you start out on?
Again thanks a lot Cara for the time you have put out to help everyone 
with their mac problems and the other things you do for others.

I will be praying for you and your family.
God Bless you.

On 8/28/2015 2:50 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

Hello All,

I felt I needed to send this along to clear some air, respond to some comments 
and address some assumptions which seem to be going around in regard to this 
list and my list involvement in the current situation and over the past few 
months.

Firstly, I only mentioned my current situation with my loved one simply to be 
open and honest about exactly why it is that I am not able to address matters 
more quickly. That is the *only* reason. The list situation has been so 
volatile that I felt you all deserve this and that it was only fair of me.

Secondly, I was in no way lecturing any of you on what you should be doing or 
holding anyone here to any higher of a standard than I would consider holding 
myself. So if my note came off like that, then please understand this was not 
at all my intention. I simply meant to suggest a way to quell the current list 
tide until I can more appropriately address these important issues.

In addition, many of you seem to be under the assumption that I do not pay any 
attention whatsoever to this list and that there is no moderation going on here 
at all. This is simply not the case. There is, and has been someone who has 
been kind enough to help manage whatever aspects of the list they can, when 
they can. So the idea that I somehow do not care or have not been considerate 
of this list is simply and completely incorrect.

I also check in on this list every couple of days. I do not read every single 
post, but I do read some and I do skim as well. Since as I’ve said above, there 
has been moderation behind the scenes, I felt this was appropriate.

Since I did miss a serious issue, it is obviously not. So as I have mentioned 
before, I am currently deciding on additional moderators to assist.

Make no mistake, as CJ has mentioned, if any list member here is shown any kind 
of abuse through this list, it matters to me very deeply. The fact that I did 
not know this was going on does not mean I do not care or that I do not pay any 
attention here. I simply missed this in my checks of the list. This does not 
mean I do not view this as my responsibility. On the contrary, I take full 
responsibility for this. However, it does mean that I am a human being and do 
miss things from time to time. It is, and always has been extremely important 
to me that any list I moderate be a safe place for every member on it. I take 
this very seriously. This is very deep to who I am. -And, as I have already 
said, I am deeply sorry for the kind of insanity that has happened here.

Having said this, I feel it is important for me to ask that you please 
understand, I am also not a service that people are entitled to, I am a person 
and as such, have a life and will occasionally miss things that go on here. 
Now, I am not saying that you all feel this way, but there are certainly some 
who seem to. I will try (as I have always done here) to do the best I can for 
this list.

Understand that I get absolutely no compensation of any kind for the running of 
this list, and am lucky if I ever have received more than two thank you notes 
per year, every year that I have worked with this list, even at its best of 
times. I certainly get my share of demands, criticism, questions, help requests 
and general comments. This is fine, I expect this but please realize that this 
is, and has always been simply a labor of love so to speak.

I do very much view the running of this list and my others as my 
responsibility. I care very deeply about helping this community so this sort of 
thing affects me more than you may realize. Some have also accused me of some 
sort of power trip by still being this list’s owner. Firstly, no one has asked 
me for list ownership and secondly, though this is a community, and as Jonathan 
has mentioned, a brand, this is, at the end of the day, simply a mailing list. 
This is not some sort of power trip to me. Yes, I can assist you all in keeping 
this community going, but as I have said before, it is you who keep this 
community going. I can only assist you all. You are the community and I am a 
member of it just like you. This mailing list is merely a vehicle for you the 
community to express yourselves and I can assist. Our community means a lot to 
me so I feel this list is a very important resource.

I am not sure how much clearer or more honest I can be. I will apologize once 
again and simply say that this matters to me

Re: Moderator Note - Clearing some air -was- Important -was- Re: So is this list going to die or not?

2015-08-28 Thread Gerard Doody

Hi all, I think everyone should ppay close attention to what Kara has said 
below.  I think, also, that it was well said and I for one will continue on the 
list as long as it is in opperation.  Thanks for all the good work, I am a 
listserve administrator of a small list, and I know some of the hassels of 
which you speak.  Take care, 
Jerry Doody 
jerrydood...@gmail.com 
On Aug 28, 2015, at 10:50 am, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:

Cara, Very well said, I for one thank you for the great work you put through 
the group and the help you give others.
I joined the list because i am very new to the mac world of products and am 
glad to finally find a list that could be of some help.
If i may ask what version of OSX did you start out on?
Again thanks a lot Cara for the time you have put out to help everyone with 
their mac problems and the other things you do for others.
I will be praying for you and your family.
God Bless you.

On 8/28/2015 2:50 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I felt I needed to send this along to clear some air, respond to some 
 comments and address some assumptions which seem to be going around in regard 
 to this list and my list involvement in the current situation and over the 
 past few months.
 
 Firstly, I only mentioned my current situation with my loved one simply to be 
 open and honest about exactly why it is that I am not able to address matters 
 more quickly. That is the *only* reason. The list situation has been so 
 volatile that I felt you all deserve this and that it was only fair of me.
 
 Secondly, I was in no way lecturing any of you on what you should be doing or 
 holding anyone here to any higher of a standard than I would consider holding 
 myself. So if my note came off like that, then please understand this was not 
 at all my intention. I simply meant to suggest a way to quell the current 
 list tide until I can more appropriately address these important issues.
 
 In addition, many of you seem to be under the assumption that I do not pay 
 any attention whatsoever to this list and that there is no moderation going 
 on here at all. This is simply not the case. There is, and has been someone 
 who has been kind enough to help manage whatever aspects of the list they 
 can, when they can. So the idea that I somehow do not care or have not been 
 considerate of this list is simply and completely incorrect.
 
 I also check in on this list every couple of days. I do not read every single 
 post, but I do read some and I do skim as well. Since as I’ve said above, 
 there has been moderation behind the scenes, I felt this was appropriate.
 
 Since I did miss a serious issue, it is obviously not. So as I have mentioned 
 before, I am currently deciding on additional moderators to assist.
 
 Make no mistake, as CJ has mentioned, if any list member here is shown any 
 kind of abuse through this list, it matters to me very deeply. The fact that 
 I did not know this was going on does not mean I do not care or that I do not 
 pay any attention here. I simply missed this in my checks of the list. This 
 does not mean I do not view this as my responsibility. On the contrary, I 
 take full responsibility for this. However, it does mean that I am a human 
 being and do miss things from time to time. It is, and always has been 
 extremely important to me that any list I moderate be a safe place for every 
 member on it. I take this very seriously. This is very deep to who I am. 
 -And, as I have already said, I am deeply sorry for the kind of insanity that 
 has happened here.
 
 Having said this, I feel it is important for me to ask that you please 
 understand, I am also not a service that people are entitled to, I am a 
 person and as such, have a life and will occasionally miss things that go on 
 here. Now, I am not saying that you all feel this way, but there are 
 certainly some who seem to. I will try (as I have always done here) to do the 
 best I can for this list.
 
 Understand that I get absolutely no compensation of any kind for the running 
 of this list, and am lucky if I ever have received more than two thank you 
 notes per year, every year that I have worked with this list, even at its 
 best of times. I certainly get my share of demands, criticism, questions, 
 help requests and general comments. This is fine, I expect this but please 
 realize that this is, and has always been simply a labor of love so to speak.
 
 I do very much view the running of this list and my others as my 
 responsibility. I care very deeply about helping this community so this sort 
 of thing affects me more than you may realize. Some have also accused me of 
 some sort of power trip by still being this list’s owner. Firstly, no one has 
 asked me for list ownership and secondly, though this is a community, and as 
 Jonathan has mentioned, a brand, this is, at the end of the day, simply a 
 mailing list. This is not some sort of power trip to me. Yes, I can assist

Re: Using Software update.

2015-08-28 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

Do you need an Apple ID even though this person is running Snow Leopard? I ask 
because I didn't set up an Apple ID as soon as I got my Mac back in 2010 and 
didn't have one until 2011. I was still able to download software updates for 
Snow Leopard so this kinda confuses me. I understand if you wanted to download 
major software updates such as Yosemite you'd need an Apple ID, but if this 
person wanted to update his Snow Leopard, wouldn't he be fine without one? Am I 
right, Singing Sparrow, that you just wanted to download an update to Snow 
Leopard or are you thinking of making the jump to a higher, and in my opinion, 
better version of OS X like Yosemite?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Yes, you need one. Your installation of OS X is tied to your Apple ID, and 
 any updates to it require that Apple ID. This policy may change, but as far 
 as I know, it hasn't yet. Technically, this is no different from Windows; 
 Microsoft uses validation to check that your copy of Windows is valid and 
 legal, and if it detects a pirated version, it won't update anything. An 
 Apple ID is simply Apple's way of verifying the legality of your OS X 
 installation.
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 Ok, so i would need a apple id to get any software updates then? I was under 
 the impression that you ran software update like you would on windows?
 
 On 8/28/2015 7:48 PM, Daniel Chavez wrote:
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Re: problems with Itunes

2015-08-28 Thread Christina C.

Thanks, but it didn’t work.  The crazy thing is that not even trying to 
activate the app with quick nav will work. I have all the cursor tracking set 
correctly. Something just may be wrong because I’ve also noticed that when I am 
in a dialog box the cursor keeps wrapping from the bottom back to the top and I 
have cursor wrapping set to off.

Christina
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:40 PM, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Have you tried turning on Quick Nav and pressing the up/down keys together at 
 once? I sometimes need to do that when in a checkbox when nothing else works. 
 HTH.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In the last couple of weeks, I have not been able to select apps in the grid 
 view of my apps that need to be updated. I can’t select them to read the 
 info about what’s new in this update. If I VO space on the app, nothing 
 happens. I also cannot bring up the context menu.  
 
 Thanks for any help,
 Christina
 
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Re: Using Software update.

2015-08-28 Thread Alex Hall

Yes, you need one. Your installation of OS X is tied to your Apple ID, and any 
updates to it require that Apple ID. This policy may change, but as far as I 
know, it hasn't yet. Technically, this is no different from Windows; Microsoft 
uses validation to check that your copy of Windows is valid and legal, and if 
it detects a pirated version, it won't update anything. An Apple ID is simply 
Apple's way of verifying the legality of your OS X installation.
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 Ok, so i would need a apple id to get any software updates then? I was under 
 the impression that you ran software update like you would on windows?
 
 On 8/28/2015 7:48 PM, Daniel Chavez wrote:
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Re: Using Software update.

Ok, that makes sense How hard is it to set up an apple id where can i go 
to do this?


On 8/28/2015 9:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Do you need an Apple ID even though this person is running Snow Leopard? I ask 
because I didn't set up an Apple ID as soon as I got my Mac back in 2010 and 
didn't have one until 2011. I was still able to download software updates for 
Snow Leopard so this kinda confuses me. I understand if you wanted to download 
major software updates such as Yosemite you'd need an Apple ID, but if this 
person wanted to update his Snow Leopard, wouldn't he be fine without one? Am I 
right, Singing Sparrow, that you just wanted to download an update to Snow 
Leopard or are you thinking of making the jump to a higher, and in my opinion, 
better version of OS X like Yosemite?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Yes, you need one. Your installation of OS X is tied to your Apple ID, and any 
updates to it require that Apple ID. This policy may change, but as far as I 
know, it hasn't yet. Technically, this is no different from Windows; Microsoft 
uses validation to check that your copy of Windows is valid and legal, and if 
it detects a pirated version, it won't update anything. An Apple ID is simply 
Apple's way of verifying the legality of your OS X installation.

On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:

Ok, so i would need a apple id to get any software updates then? I was under 
the impression that you ran software update like you would on windows?

On 8/28/2015 7:48 PM, Daniel Chavez wrote:

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Re: Using Software update.

2015-08-28 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

I think you should be able to create one through iTunes. At least that's how I 
made mine. Don't know if it has changed in later versions of iTunes.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:12 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 Ok, that makes sense How hard is it to set up an apple id where can i go to 
 do this?
 
 On 8/28/2015 9:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
 Do you need an Apple ID even though this person is running Snow Leopard? I 
 ask because I didn't set up an Apple ID as soon as I got my Mac back in 2010 
 and didn't have one until 2011. I was still able to download software 
 updates for Snow Leopard so this kinda confuses me. I understand if you 
 wanted to download major software updates such as Yosemite you'd need an 
 Apple ID, but if this person wanted to update his Snow Leopard, wouldn't he 
 be fine without one? Am I right, Singing Sparrow, that you just wanted to 
 download an update to Snow Leopard or are you thinking of making the jump to 
 a higher, and in my opinion, better version of OS X like Yosemite?
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Yes, you need one. Your installation of OS X is tied to your Apple ID, and 
 any updates to it require that Apple ID. This policy may change, but as far 
 as I know, it hasn't yet. Technically, this is no different from Windows; 
 Microsoft uses validation to check that your copy of Windows is valid and 
 legal, and if it detects a pirated version, it won't update anything. An 
 Apple ID is simply Apple's way of verifying the legality of your OS X 
 installation.
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net 
 wrote:
 
 Ok, so i would need a apple id to get any software updates then? I was 
 under the impression that you ran software update like you would on 
 windows?
 
 On 8/28/2015 7:48 PM, Daniel Chavez wrote:
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Re: Copy Paste in Numbers

2015-08-28 Thread Agent086b

Hi tim and all,
well the problem has gone away. I re-started the Mac and all has gone back to 
normal. So long since I have used Windows I forgot to try that to begin  with.
Thanks again for the help.
Max.

 On 28 Aug 2015, at 3:04 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Try pasting what's been copied into a blank TextEdit document.  It's best to 
 have the TextEdit document set to Plain Text to get the best results.  So, 
 when you open a blank TextEdit document, press cmd-shift-t and it will be set 
 to Plain Text.  Press cmd-v to paste in the contents of the copied cell.  
 Often, VO will announce Copy even if the item was not actually put into the 
 Clipboard, I think VO is simply announcing what key combination was pressed.  
 If nothing is pasted into your TextEdit document when doing this, then it's 
 not likely focusing properly on the cell and thus not really copying 
 anything.  If this is the case, try using just arrow keys or the tab key to 
 navigate to the cell that you're copying from and see if that changes 
 anything.
 
 Keep me in the loop.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 21:22, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 thanks for your reply. I created a new blank document and still can’t copy 
 and paste numbers. As I understand things when I move to a sell it is 
 highlighted then I just copy it. In the new document there is no formulas I 
 just wrote sum figures.  
 Now I must type in the figures which is a real pest.
 Thanks again.
 Max.
 
 
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 1:00 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Not sure why it's giving you grief.  Copy and paste works just fine for me 
 in all occurrences that I've attempted.  Do you know if the cell that you're 
 copying from includes a formula?  Shouldn't matter but just checking.  Try 
 navigating to the cell you want to paste into either with the tab key or the 
 arrow keys without VO keys.  See if that makes things cooperate.
 
 Later
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 19:50, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have a simple spreadsheet that I brought over from the PC days. I have 
 been using this for the 3 years I have been using my iMac with no problems.
 I used this spreadsheet in July and all worked well. I wish to copy some 
 figures from one sell and paste them in to another. I found today VO says 
 copy but it will not paste in the other sell.
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: iTunes and audio book Help

2015-08-28 Thread Andrew Lamanche

Hi,

My audiobooks are in the itunes library in the folder audiobooks.  So it's my 
home folder / music folder / itunes folder / itunes media folder / audiobooks.

The only thing I can think of is whether you have itunes set to copy files into 
its library or leave them where they were originally.  This option is somewhere 
in itunes preferences which you get to with command+comma, or through itunes 
menu item.

Hope this helps

Andrew
 On 29 Aug 2015, at 05:27, Emilio Hernandez emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I have imported some audio books into iTunes, but when I trya nd find them, I 
 cannot locate them within the audio book directory of my iTunes library.
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Re: Using Software update.

2015-08-28 Thread Alex Hall

You can just visit appleid.apple.com, to keep things easy. I don't know how 
Snow Leopard's updates work, sorry. I got a Mac with Lion, and didn't start 
using it seriously until Mountain Lion a year later.
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I think you should be able to create one through iTunes. At least that's how 
 I made mine. Don't know if it has changed in later versions of iTunes.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:12 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 Ok, that makes sense How hard is it to set up an apple id where can i go to 
 do this?
 
 On 8/28/2015 9:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
 Do you need an Apple ID even though this person is running Snow Leopard? I 
 ask because I didn't set up an Apple ID as soon as I got my Mac back in 
 2010 and didn't have one until 2011. I was still able to download software 
 updates for Snow Leopard so this kinda confuses me. I understand if you 
 wanted to download major software updates such as Yosemite you'd need an 
 Apple ID, but if this person wanted to update his Snow Leopard, wouldn't he 
 be fine without one? Am I right, Singing Sparrow, that you just wanted to 
 download an update to Snow Leopard or are you thinking of making the jump 
 to a higher, and in my opinion, better version of OS X like Yosemite?
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Yes, you need one. Your installation of OS X is tied to your Apple ID, and 
 any updates to it require that Apple ID. This policy may change, but as 
 far as I know, it hasn't yet. Technically, this is no different from 
 Windows; Microsoft uses validation to check that your copy of Windows is 
 valid and legal, and if it detects a pirated version, it won't update 
 anything. An Apple ID is simply Apple's way of verifying the legality of 
 your OS X installation.
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net 
 wrote:
 
 Ok, so i would need a apple id to get any software updates then? I was 
 under the impression that you ran software update like you would on 
 windows?
 
 On 8/28/2015 7:48 PM, Daniel Chavez wrote:
 Yes
 
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Re: Accessible remote login

2015-08-28 Thread Brent Harding

Does Apple Remote Desktop do it? I've heard of VPS servers with OSX 
existing, but I have a suspicion that we couldn't use them.

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Hi all,

Have any VoiceOver users figured out if there is a way to remotely login 
to another Mac and use the GUI, in an accessible way?

Thanks,

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iTunes and audio book Help

2015-08-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez

Hello everyone,

I have imported some audio books into iTunes, but when I trya nd find them, I 
cannot locate them within the audio book directory of my iTunes library.
Does anyone have any suggestions where they could be located?
When I search for them on my computer the rference does indicate they are 
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Re: Creating distribution lists in Mail

2015-08-28 Thread Jim Gatteys

Hi Wayne!
If you create a new group in your contacts application and put everybody in 
there that you want in your mail out you should then be able to type in that 
name in the to field when you are in mail.  They even have smart group 
where you can add filters and other things.  I have not used that part before 
but have sent out mail to various lists with no problem.
Jim

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 All,
 How would I create a distribution list in the Mail application? Or,
 does mail even support distribution lists?
 
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i-mac loading issue

Hello, all;

When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple
symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but
instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a
question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.

What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?

Please let me know as soon as you are able.

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Re: i-mac loading issue

Hello Faith,

I’m afraid your iMac can’t locate its System Folder. You’ll need to boot into 
the Recovery partition and use the Disk Utility there to Repair Disk.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hello, all;
 
 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
 Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
 Faith
 
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

What am I  suppose to fix in disk utility?
On Aug 28, 2015 1:49 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Shut down your iMac. Then hold down the Command key and the letter ‘r” and
 press the Power key. That should do it.

 Cheers,

 Anne


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 How do I go into the recovery disk so that I can use disk utility?

 Thank you.

 Faith
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 Hello Faith,

 I’m afraid your iMac can’t locate its System Folder. You’ll need to boot
 into the Recovery partition and use the Disk Utility there to Repair Disk.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 28 Aug 2015, at 18:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, all;

 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.

 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?

 Please let me know as soon as you are able.

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RE: i-mac loading issue

2015-08-28 Thread george b

Hold down the command key and r at the same time and activate your power button 
and keep holding down the command and r keys for about 20 seconds or so and let 
them up

 

Wait a minute or so and if v o does not start speaking do the command f5 to 
turn it on

You may have to try the command f5 a couple of times.

 

Wait a little bit between each try to it speaks

 

Then in the table choose utilities and then disk repair and first aid

 

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Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue

 

How do I go into the recovery disk so that I can use disk utility?

Thank you.

Faith

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mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk  wrote:

Hello Faith,

 

I’m afraid your iMac can’t locate its System Folder. You’ll need to boot into 
the Recovery partition and use the Disk Utility there to Repair Disk.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

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mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hello, all;

When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.

What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?

Please let me know as soon as you are able.

Faith

 

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VO-Cmd-F3 and VO-Cmd-F3-F3, how did I miss them?

Hello listers,

I recently discovered the immense value of VO-Cmd-F3 and VO-Cmd-F3-F3 in 
showing the size of an object and its position on the page. Since we still have 
an ancient Mac Mini running Snow Leopard, we tried these commands on that and 
they were there! How did I miss them?

One oddity with the reporting of the Y coordinate in a document is that it 
reports the position of a page as if it were printed on continuous stationery, 
so page 2 of a document is reported as having a Y coordinate of something like 
31 cm.

Cheers,

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Chrome

2015-08-28 Thread Christina C.

Is the Chrome browser voiceOver Accessible?

Christina

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Re: accessible video editing software for mac

2015-08-28 Thread Eric Oyen

last time I used iMovie, it was reasonably accessible. You had to pull a couple 
of tricks to get to the right spot, but it was doable.

-eric

On Aug 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Moop Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 Is there an accessible video editor for mac? I have an hour-long video which 
 I need to edit all but approximately 3 minutes out. The 3 minute clip which I 
 want to keep is approximately 10 minutes into the video. I would like to keep 
 the video that goes along with those three minutes in tact. Is there any 
 software that will let me do this?
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Re: i-mac loading issue

How do I go into the recovery disk so that I can use disk utility?

Thank you.

Faith
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 I’m afraid your iMac can’t locate its System Folder. You’ll need to boot
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 Cheers,

 Anne


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 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple
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 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a
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Re: i-mac loading issue

That’s where you should find Repair Disk.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 28 Aug 2015, at 19:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What am I  suppose to fix in disk utility?
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 1:49 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk 
 mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 Shut down your iMac. Then hold down the Command key and the letter ‘r” and 
 press the Power key. That should do it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
 mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do I go into the recovery disk so that I can use disk utility?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Faith
 
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 mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 Hello Faith,
 
 I’m afraid your iMac can’t locate its System Folder. You’ll need to boot 
 into the Recovery partition and use the Disk Utility there to Repair Disk.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, all;
 
 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

2015-08-28 Thread christopher hallsworth

Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind with 
light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark has appeared 
short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup chime and nothing 
else happen? Would there be any disk activity or anything like that?
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, all;
 
 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
 Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
 Faith
 
 
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RE: i-mac loading issue

2015-08-28 Thread george b

Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and maybe 
they had a little vision

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue

 

Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind with 
light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark has appeared 
short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup chime and nothing 
else happen? Would there be any disk activity or anything like that?

On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hello, all;

When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.

What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?

Please let me know as soon as you are able.

Faith

 

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Re: concerning iDrive

2015-08-28 Thread William Gallik

Hi Ray;

Actually, I cloud Drive does not function the same way as dropbox. You have one 
copy of the file because it mirrors your folder structure the originating 
device – I. Eat. Mac, iPhone, iPad.




- Bill 
- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 No, I specicially said that I was not talking about icloud drive.  IF I'm 
 right, and I were to use Icloud drive, doesn't that mean having at least two 
 coppies of everything on my Mac like I'd have to have with Drop box?  No, I'm 
 talking about the Idrive that you hear advertized on the radio:  Not the 
 iCloud drive folder you access by pressing Command+shift+I.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Ray.
 
 I use I Cloud Drive if that is what you are talking about.
 
 I pay a subscription every month for the Sum of £2.99 but not sure what that 
 is in dollars.  For that price I get 200 of storage space.  I just put 
 everything there so I have no problems if I want to do a clean install on my 
 Mac computers as next month I have two to upgrade to the new Mac operating 
 system.  I can't spell or say the word so won't write it.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Kawal.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 I'm thinking about iDrive as a form of backup.  Question is this.  Who here 
 has tried iDrive:  and, among those of y'all who have, would y'all say that 
 iDrive is worth the cost, or stay away and choose something else?  I'm 
 asking because I cannot use Drop Box as a backup since I have no other 
 physical drive I can point it to, and, honestly, if I am going to do a clean 
 install of my Mac OS, I'd better back all my stuff first.  So, how bout it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 
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Re: Chrome

2015-08-28 Thread sadam . lists

Google Chrome works well on the Mac. 

Sent from my iPhone 

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Re: i-mac loading issue

How do I run Terminal?
On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
wrote:

 I've heard you can run Terminal and type
 resetpassword
 which will do what it says on the tin.

 On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front
 my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of
 the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I
 believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password
 and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get
 around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing
 the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?

 Faith
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and
 maybe they had a little vision



 *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *christopher hallsworth
 *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
 *To:* macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: i-mac loading issue



 Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind
 with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark has
 appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup chime
 and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or anything like
 that?

 On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hello, all;

 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the
 apple symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading
 properly, but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file
 folder with a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than
 that.

 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?

 Please let me know as soon as you are able.

 Faith



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Re: i-mac loading issue

2015-08-28 Thread John Panarese

   You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by pressing and 
holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit and start 
VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options available to 
you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to the Utilities menu 
and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then when the terminal 
window is open, type, all one word,
resetpassword

   This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want and 
reset the password of that user.


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 On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do I run Terminal?
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 I've heard you can run Terminal and type
 resetpassword
 which will do what it says on the tin.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front my 
 computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of the 
 passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I believe 
 that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password and went 
 in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get around 
 this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing the disk? 
  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
 Faith
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and 
 maybe they had a little vision
 
  
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
  
 
 Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind 
 with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark has 
 appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup chime 
 and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or anything like 
 that?
 
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
 
 Hello, all;
 
 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
 Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
 Faith
 
  
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried to
go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am trying
to get around.
On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by pressing
 and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit and start
 VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options available
 to you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to the
 Utilities menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then when
 the terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword

This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want and
 reset the password of that user.


 Take Care

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 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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  On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I run Terminal?
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
  I've heard you can run Terminal and type
  resetpassword
  which will do what it says on the tin.
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in
 front my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most
 of the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I
 believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password
 and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get
 around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing
 the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
  Faith
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone
 and maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
  Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or
 blind with light perception user know if the file folder with a question
 mark has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the
 startup chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or
 anything like that?
 
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello, all;
 
  When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the
 apple symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading
 properly, but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file
 folder with a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than
 that.
 
  What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
  Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
  Faith
 
 
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

2015-08-28 Thread John Panarese

Hmmm. I missed the start of this discussion, but do you have FileVault 
turned on by chance?  When you try to boot into recovery, it prompts you for 
the password? If this is the case, try typing your Apple ID and then your 
password to see if that will unlock the system for you.



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 On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried to 
 go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am trying to 
 get around.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by pressing 
 and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit and start 
 VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options available to 
 you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to the Utilities 
 menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then when the 
 terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword
 
This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want and 
 reset the password of that user.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
  On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I run Terminal?
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
  wrote:
  I've heard you can run Terminal and type
  resetpassword
  which will do what it says on the tin.
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front 
  my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of 
  the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I 
  believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password 
  and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get 
  around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing 
  the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
  Faith
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and 
  maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher 
  hallsworth
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
  Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind 
  with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark 
  has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup 
  chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or 
  anything like that?
 
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello, all;
 
  When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
  symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, 
  but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with 
  a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
  What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
  Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
  Faith
 
 
 
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Re: Office 2016?

2015-08-28 Thread sadam . lists

2016. It's still rather clunky for my taste.

Sent from my iPhone 

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 Wait a second.  You're saying the accessibility isn't any good in 2016, or 
 are you saying in 2011.  I'm a little confused.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: sadam.li...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: Office 2016?
 
 
 Don't bother. The accessibility has regressed majorly.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 On 28 Aug 2015, at 9:22 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks man. So under the  installation they don't have 2011 for the mac?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK, so I just called Microsoft for you to ask about this, as I was actually 
 curious myself.
 
 So, here's the deal.  Office 2016 for the mac is available, yes, not even 
 as the public preview.  It's out, but! hold on!  there is a little small 
 catch. It is out, yes, but right now, it's only available to Office 365 
 subscribers.  Not to official non-365 subscribers who just want it as is, 
 full fledged.  However, on the plus side of this, it is apparently supposed 
 to be fully released without the need for Office 365 come next month.
 
 Once this is done, they will also then be releasing Office 2016 for Windows 
 for both 365 members as well as non-365 full fledged users.
 
 Please realize that none of what I am saying here breaks any NDA.  I'm 
 telling you exactly what I was directly told by a Microsoft sales agent 
 named Hermon.
 
 If you want to get either of the versions out now of Microsoft Office for a 
 mac, or a Windows PC, then here's what you need to do.
 
 First off, be sure you're subscribed to Office 365.  You can do this through
 
 http://www.office.com
 
 Once you have done this, go back to the above link, and sign in with your 
 Microsoft passport.
 
 Once in, click on the link for my account.
 
 I think a more direct link actually is:
 
 http://account.office.com
 
 It might be
 
 http://myaccount.office.com
 
 It's one of the two, I just don't recall which.
 
 Once you're at this page and logged in, you  should see a section for 
 installation.  If you look under here, you'll see the option to download 
 either of these installers, for the mac, or for a PC.  Pick the one you 
 want, download it, and install it by running the installer.  Then, make 
 sure during the installer that you sign in with your Microsoft passport if 
 asked to do so.  It's been a while since I've needed to install, so I don't 
 recall exactly what that process is, but I know it's very very straight 
 forward.
 
 Once done, you're good to go.
 
 As for the accessibility, I've not used it in a while, but I did try one of 
 the older public previews, and for what it was worth, yes, there were some 
 major issues, but for the most part, unless you were doing really really 
 really heavy editting, it worked quite well.  Even MS Word finally has been 
 fixed where now you can read the document window.  Remember that this was 
 quite a few preview builds back though, so I'd honestly give it a shot.  I 
 think you'll be at least somewhat, if not very impressed.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com
 To: mac list macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Office 2016?
 
 
 Is ms office 2016 for the mac out yet? If so is it accessible?
 
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Re: concerning iDrive

2015-08-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr

No, I specicially said that I was not talking about icloud drive.  IF I'm 
right, and I were to use Icloud drive, doesn't that mean having at least two 
coppies of everything on my Mac like I'd have to have with Drop box?  No, I'm 
talking about the Idrive that you hear advertized on the radio:  Not the iCloud 
drive folder you access by pressing Command+shift+I.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Ray.
 
 I use I Cloud Drive if that is what you are talking about.
 
 I pay a subscription every month for the Sum of £2.99 but not sure what that 
 is in dollars.  For that price I get 200 of storage space.  I just put 
 everything there so I have no problems if I want to do a clean install on my 
 Mac computers as next month I have two to upgrade to the new Mac operating 
 system.  I can't spell or say the word so won't write it.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Kawal.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 I'm thinking about iDrive as a form of backup.  Question is this.  Who here 
 has tried iDrive:  and, among those of y'all who have, would y'all say that 
 iDrive is worth the cost, or stay away and choose something else?  I'm asking 
 because I cannot use Drop Box as a backup since I have no other physical 
 drive I can point it to, and, honestly, if I am going to do a clean install 
 of my Mac OS, I'd better back all my stuff first.  So, how bout it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 
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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Scott Granados

Ok, so I would challenge anyone to demonstrate how 64 bit really changed that 
much in regards to the use and performance of the phones.

The bit depth thing is really over stated.  The primary advantage of a 64 bit 
word over a 32 bit word is that 64 bit systems can address far more memory 
simultaneously.  This is great for example if you do things like large 
computing or have larger servers like we use at my job that have over a TByte 
of RAM.  Your phone though has nothing like this.  You have a few gigabytes of 
ram, 128 gigabytes at most of flash storage and not much else.  The power in a 
small form factor of a phone is remarkable but it’s nothing compared to what 
64bit is actually designed for.  You also get the advantage of more bytes per 
word but this assumes you’re using code optimized to take advantage of this.  
Chris to your points, you’re pretty much right.  In general though 
loading 32 bit code on a 64 bit processor is no problem at all, you just use 
half the available bits in the word.  The problems you’re thinking of are the 
result of bad or tricky software design.:)  Windows was known for having 
problems with 32 bit code where other operating systems this was never a 
concern.  However, if you get passed that layer of abstraction and to the OS 
level as long as the compilation is good there won’t be any problems.  You can 
run something compiled for 32 bit on a 64 bit cpu with no issues.  Just 
distinguishing that the limitation you pointed out is more software induced 
than at the hardware level where the original poster was going.

If you ask me I’d rather have a 32, 16 or even 8 bit processor in my phone if 
the code was written much more tightly and cleanly.  It might be a result of my 
age but I was always told to write the code as tight and lean as possible for 
the best performance.  With all the increases in hardware over the years in my 
humble opinion software and environments have gotten sloppy in some cases and 
bloated in many.  Remember, the command module of the Apolo space craft only 
had about 32K of storage.
:)


just my $.02


 On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sort a.
 
 Remember:  64 bit sometimes can be backward compatible.  Let me be very 
 clear.  I didn't say it always! can be, but sometimes depending on 
 circumstances, it can be.  So, theoretically, you probably could get away 
 still with running some things that were designed more for x86 platform.  It 
 really just depends.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:01 AM
 Subject: New iPhones
 
 
 Hi all
 If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
 discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant year 
 for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. Theoretically, 
 this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is concerned. To my knowledge, 
 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range as even the new iPod Touch is 
 now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! RIP.
 
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Re: reclaiming space on hard drive

2015-08-28 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

Didn't notice if you got this resolved. Sounds like some weirdness on
the drive. Have you tried the usual bit of rebooting your machine into
the recovery partition and doing both repair permissions and repair
disk? Often times this clears up things that just shouldn't be when it
comes to drives.

On 8/1/15 12:35 AM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

Sorry to keep spamming the list, but I’ve discovered something else now. When I
go to my HD and do command i for information, interact with the scroll area,
and it shows 74gb available, and only 45.91gb used. What is going on?
Thanks for helping guys.

On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:20 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

That's not bad at all. There are some hidden things that can take up space. How
are you finding the free space count? There are a few hidden things that can
still throw off the overall math. The recovery partition and such take about
1GB. I have a hidden folder called MobileBackups which is about 1GB. If you're
using MacPorts or the like your /opt and /private folders can be a dozen or so
GB.

On 7/31/15 2:39 PM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

Ok, so I’ve downloaded and ran “Disk Doctor” as suggested by a lister.
I’ve also enabled “calculate all sizes” and my applications folder is 17.28gb,
Libraries is 5.17gb, system folder is 9.81gb, and my users folder is 17.43gb.
Total space used should be down around 50gb, any ideas guys/gals?
I’m still showing 81gb used.
Any ideas?

On Jul 31, 2015, at 10:25 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

Odd. Then your free space should reflect those files being gone. One handy way to figure out where
you space went is to open your hard drive, make sure you are in list view (command+2) and then go
to View Options (command-J). That pops up a window with extra options checkboxes. At the bottom of
that list of checkboxes is one that says Calculate all sizes. Check that one and then command ~ to
jump back to your list view of the hard drive and there will be a Size column. Usually for folders
the size is just -- but the Mac will start totaling up all the files and replace those
-- with actual numbers. You can then start to focus on the folders with the most space
used and start to drill down to figure out what's using the most space. The Calculate all sizes
beats on your hard drive making (ad updating) all those totals so when you're done you'll want to
turn that back off. My Applications folder is 71GB while my OSX 10.10.4 system is only 11GB. I
would expect the bulk of the deletable stuff to be either apps you no longer need or stuff under
Users/youraccountnamefolder.

On 7/31/15 12:06 PM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

No it is empty.

On Jul 31, 2015, at 10:00 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

If you open the trash, is there still anything in it?

On 7/31/15 10:43 AM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:

Hi everyone,
I’ve just noticed the usage on my Mac HD is getting more full than I like.
I’ve just deleted several gigs of data, and I am not seeing the space freed up
like I expected. Only a couple hundred megs freed up. I have emptied the trash,
and am not sure what I need to do to see this newly emptied space.
I’ve even restarted the Mac to see if something was hanging.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you.

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Re: problems with Itunes

2015-08-28 Thread eileen . misrahi

Hi,

Have you tried turning on Quick Nav and pressing the up/down keys together at 
once? I sometimes need to do that when in a checkbox when nothing else works. 
HTH.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In the last couple of weeks, I have not been able to select apps in the grid 
 view of my apps that need to be updated. I can’t select them to read the info 
 about what’s new in this update. If I VO space on the app, nothing happens. I 
 also cannot bring up the context menu.  
 
 Thanks for any help,
 Christina
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

2015-08-28 Thread christopher hallsworth

I've heard you can run Terminal and type
resetpassword
which will do what it says on the tin.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front my 
 computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of the 
 passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I believe 
 that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password and went in 
 when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get around this 
 issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing the disk?  If 
 so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
 Faith
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
 mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com 
 mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and 
 maybe they had a little vision
 
  
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
  
 
 Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind with 
 light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark has 
 appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup chime 
 and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or anything like 
 that?
 
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
 mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
 
 Hello, all;
 
 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
 Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
 Faith
 
  
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

Shut down your iMac. Then hold down the Command key and the letter ‘r” and 
press the Power key. That should do it.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 28 Aug 2015, at 19:43, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do I go into the recovery disk so that I can use disk utility?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Faith
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 1:40 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk 
 mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 Hello Faith,
 
 I’m afraid your iMac can’t locate its System Folder. You’ll need to boot into 
 the Recovery partition and use the Disk Utility there to Repair Disk.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, all;
 
 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but 
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a 
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
 Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
 Faith
 
 
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Identifying posters to mailing lists in Mac Mail

2015-08-28 Thread Edward Green

Hi,

I am running the latest version of Yosemite and Apple Mail on a Macbook Pro.

I am a member of some NFB lists, and whenever I receive emails from those 
lists, the list is announced as the sender rather than the poster.  This 
doesn’t happen in Outlook 2013 under Windows.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might get the poster (rather than 
the list) to show as the sender under Apple Mail?

Cheers,

Ed

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RE: i-mac loading issue

I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and
 maybe they had a little vision



 *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *christopher hallsworth
 *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
 *To:* macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: i-mac loading issue



 Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind
 with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark has
 appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup chime
 and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or anything like
 that?

 On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hello, all;

 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.

 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?

 Please let me know as soon as you are able.

 Faith



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accessible video editing software for mac

2015-08-28 Thread Moop Curran

Hi,
Is there an accessible video editor for mac? I have an hour-long video which I 
need to edit all but approximately 3 minutes out. The 3 minute clip which I 
want to keep is approximately 10 minutes into the video. I would like to keep 
the video that goes along with those three minutes in tact. Is there any 
software that will let me do this?
Thanks,
Courtney

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Re: concerning iDrive

Hello Ray.

I use I Cloud Drive if that is what you are talking about.

I pay a subscription every month for the Sum of £2.99 but not sure what that is 
in dollars.  For that price I get 200 of storage space.  I just put everything 
there so I have no problems if I want to do a clean install on my Mac computers 
as next month I have two to upgrade to the new Mac operating system.  I can't 
spell or say the word so won't write it.

Hope this helps.

Kawal.
On 28 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

Okay.

I'm thinking about iDrive as a form of backup.  Question is this.  Who here has 
tried iDrive:  and, among those of y'all who have, would y'all say that iDrive 
is worth the cost, or stay away and choose something else?  I'm asking because 
I cannot use Drop Box as a backup since I have no other physical drive I can 
point it to, and, honestly, if I am going to do a clean install of my Mac OS, 
I'd better back all my stuff first.  So, how bout it?

Thanks.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
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Re: Update Fusion even if you don't have the current version on your Mac? was two questions about the Mac

Hi Scott.

Sorry for not explaining properly as you mis understood me.

I have Fusion 7 but not installed it on my Computers.  So I was actually asking 
if I had seven even though it wasn't installed on my Macs, could I still 
upgrade to 8?

Sorry for not explaining clearly.

Kawal.
On 28 Aug 2015, at 01:24, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote:

I pressed the learn more button in the update notice, and it only charged me 
$49 for the upgrade. It was straightforward to install, but unfortunately the 
copy and paste commands don’t work to help you get the license key into the 
text field. But luckily, VoiceOver was able to maintain focus on the license 
key when I command tabbed back and forth, and it also inserted the dashes 
without me having to worry about it. So the update was successful. Now if only 
those license keys weren’t so lengthy.
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you can jump from 6 to 8 you’ll just have to pay the fee.
 
 Seems the licensing has changed though, thanks Chris for the correction.  I’m 
 glad to see it was made more simple.
 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Can one update Fusion even if seven is not installed?  I intend to get the 
 next upgrade even though I don't have Windows.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 27 Aug 2015, at 20:22, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 This has all changed since Fusion 6. You just select to try Fusion or Fusion 
 Pro, follow the instructions and begin your 30 days evaluation. No more 
 submitting an online form and waiting for a key to be emailed to you.
 On 27 Aug 2015, at 14:24, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris, you need to also have a key even a 30 day demo key.
 
 You can’t just install it and run it I don’t believe.  (correct me if I’m 
 wrong)
 
 You have to fill out a trial form with several bits of info and then a key 
 is emailed to you to add.  So even with the DMG I don’t think you’ll get 
 that far.
 
 What do you think?
 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 7:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Caitlyn,
 
 Beautiful name By the way, thank you so much for your quick response.  
 That is kind of what I suspected regarding the download of version 8.  I 
 wonder if anyone up here may be so kind as to have a Sendspace or a 
 Dropbox link they could share of the DMG.  I'm not asking for a pirated 
 copy or anything, LOL! Make that very clear.  I'm only wanting the DMG 
 itself with the installer, so that I can run it as a demo, and evaluate if 
 I want to purchase it.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Caitlyn Furness 
 caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:07 AM
 Subject: Re: two questions about the Mac
 
 
 For Fusion, you probably have to go to their incredible inaccessable web 
 site and get the new version.  In the notice about the fusion update, 
 there should be a button to click on that says something like “learn 
 more”, or “update now”. this will take you to their web site.
 
 I am still using fusion 6.x so if they’ve changed things since then I 
 can’t help more..
 Cait
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 My first question is I got an update notice for Fusion and I only see a 
 learn more button, but no option to install it. How do I go about this? 
 Also, in iTunes, I am having a strange problem where my podcasts will not 
 update properly. However, they update properly via the podcasts app on my 
 iPhone.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Office 2016?

2015-08-28 Thread Joe Quinn

i don't want it, i just wanted to make sure that it's not there on the
install page. :)

On 8/28/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm sure that you could probably get 2011, but why?  For one, it's not
 accessible.  I think you still could get it, but not with the method I
 outlined.  I'm not sure how you'd go about that.

 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Office 2016?


 Thanks man. So under the  installation they don't have 2011 for the mac?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, so I just called Microsoft for you to ask about this, as I was
 actually curious myself.

 So, here's the deal.  Office 2016 for the mac is available, yes, not even

 as the public preview.  It's out, but! hold on!  there is a little small
 catch. It is out, yes, but right now, it's only available to Office 365
 subscribers.  Not to official non-365 subscribers who just want it as is,

 full fledged.  However, on the plus side of this, it is apparently
 supposed to be fully released without the need for Office 365 come next
 month.

 Once this is done, they will also then be releasing Office 2016 for
 Windows for both 365 members as well as non-365 full fledged users.

 Please realize that none of what I am saying here breaks any NDA.  I'm
 telling you exactly what I was directly told by a Microsoft sales agent
 named Hermon.

 If you want to get either of the versions out now of Microsoft Office for

 a mac, or a Windows PC, then here's what you need to do.

 First off, be sure you're subscribed to Office 365.  You can do this
 through

 http://www.office.com

 Once you have done this, go back to the above link, and sign in with your

 Microsoft passport.

 Once in, click on the link for my account.

 I think a more direct link actually is:

 http://account.office.com

 It might be

 http://myaccount.office.com

 It's one of the two, I just don't recall which.

 Once you're at this page and logged in, you  should see a section for
 installation.  If you look under here, you'll see the option to download
 either of these installers, for the mac, or for a PC.  Pick the one you
 want, download it, and install it by running the installer.  Then, make
 sure during the installer that you sign in with your Microsoft passport if

 asked to do so.  It's been a while since I've needed to install, so I
 don't recall exactly what that process is, but I know it's very very
 straight forward.

 Once done, you're good to go.

 As for the accessibility, I've not used it in a while, but I did try one
 of the older public previews, and for what it was worth, yes, there were
 some major issues, but for the most part, unless you were doing really
 really really heavy editting, it worked quite well.  Even MS Word finally

 has been fixed where now you can read the document window.  Remember that

 this was quite a few preview builds back though, so I'd honestly give it a

 shot.  I think you'll be at least somewhat, if not very impressed.

 Chris.

 - Original Message - From: Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com
 To: mac list macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Office 2016?


 Is ms office 2016 for the mac out yet? If so is it accessible?

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Re: Moderator Note - Clearing some air -was- Important -was- Re: So is this list going to die or not?

I thank you Cara for addressing this list.

I have been on this list since 2010 and have always appreciated any help that 
people have given me.  I for one would be very sorry if this list closed and 
hence wish to thank you for your continued support of this list regardless of 
your recent situation.

May all get sorted out for you.

Kawal. 
On 28 Aug 2015, at 15:50, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:

Cara, Very well said, I for one thank you for the great work you put through 
the group and the help you give others.
I joined the list because i am very new to the mac world of products and am 
glad to finally find a list that could be of some help.
If i may ask what version of OSX did you start out on?
Again thanks a lot Cara for the time you have put out to help everyone with 
their mac problems and the other things you do for others.
I will be praying for you and your family.
God Bless you.

On 8/28/2015 2:50 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I felt I needed to send this along to clear some air, respond to some 
 comments and address some assumptions which seem to be going around in regard 
 to this list and my list involvement in the current situation and over the 
 past few months.
 
 Firstly, I only mentioned my current situation with my loved one simply to be 
 open and honest about exactly why it is that I am not able to address matters 
 more quickly. That is the *only* reason. The list situation has been so 
 volatile that I felt you all deserve this and that it was only fair of me.
 
 Secondly, I was in no way lecturing any of you on what you should be doing or 
 holding anyone here to any higher of a standard than I would consider holding 
 myself. So if my note came off like that, then please understand this was not 
 at all my intention. I simply meant to suggest a way to quell the current 
 list tide until I can more appropriately address these important issues.
 
 In addition, many of you seem to be under the assumption that I do not pay 
 any attention whatsoever to this list and that there is no moderation going 
 on here at all. This is simply not the case. There is, and has been someone 
 who has been kind enough to help manage whatever aspects of the list they 
 can, when they can. So the idea that I somehow do not care or have not been 
 considerate of this list is simply and completely incorrect.
 
 I also check in on this list every couple of days. I do not read every single 
 post, but I do read some and I do skim as well. Since as I’ve said above, 
 there has been moderation behind the scenes, I felt this was appropriate.
 
 Since I did miss a serious issue, it is obviously not. So as I have mentioned 
 before, I am currently deciding on additional moderators to assist.
 
 Make no mistake, as CJ has mentioned, if any list member here is shown any 
 kind of abuse through this list, it matters to me very deeply. The fact that 
 I did not know this was going on does not mean I do not care or that I do not 
 pay any attention here. I simply missed this in my checks of the list. This 
 does not mean I do not view this as my responsibility. On the contrary, I 
 take full responsibility for this. However, it does mean that I am a human 
 being and do miss things from time to time. It is, and always has been 
 extremely important to me that any list I moderate be a safe place for every 
 member on it. I take this very seriously. This is very deep to who I am. 
 -And, as I have already said, I am deeply sorry for the kind of insanity that 
 has happened here.
 
 Having said this, I feel it is important for me to ask that you please 
 understand, I am also not a service that people are entitled to, I am a 
 person and as such, have a life and will occasionally miss things that go on 
 here. Now, I am not saying that you all feel this way, but there are 
 certainly some who seem to. I will try (as I have always done here) to do the 
 best I can for this list.
 
 Understand that I get absolutely no compensation of any kind for the running 
 of this list, and am lucky if I ever have received more than two thank you 
 notes per year, every year that I have worked with this list, even at its 
 best of times. I certainly get my share of demands, criticism, questions, 
 help requests and general comments. This is fine, I expect this but please 
 realize that this is, and has always been simply a labor of love so to speak.
 
 I do very much view the running of this list and my others as my 
 responsibility. I care very deeply about helping this community so this sort 
 of thing affects me more than you may realize. Some have also accused me of 
 some sort of power trip by still being this list’s owner. Firstly, no one has 
 asked me for list ownership and secondly, though this is a community, and as 
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Good points of interest app for iPhone six

2015-08-28 Thread Phil Halton

I will be traveling in the Virgin Islands late October and I will need a good 
points of interest app. I am assuming that blind Square is the best out there? 
I've never used it. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would like 
something that will work in concert with either Apple maps or NAVIGON. Thanks

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Good points of interest app for iPhone six

2015-08-28 Thread Phil Halton

Do you like the blind Square app? Do you have anything to say about it? I 
assume that it is quite good but I don't know. One thing I would like to do is 
find a point of interest and then have Apple maps or Navigon take me there. I'm 
assuming that's possible to? Thanks Ronnie information.

Sent from my IPhone


 On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I use Blind square just to get me to my buss stop.  When the Seeing I gets 
 updated and you can make your own points of interest then I'll be using that 
 too.  Here in the UK Seeing I is called the RNIB Navigator.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 20:52, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I will be traveling in the Virgin Islands late October and I will need a good 
 points of interest app. I am assuming that blind Square is the best out 
 there? I've never used it. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would like 
 something that will work in concert with either Apple maps or NAVIGON. Thanks
 
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Re: Good points of interest app for iPhone six

I like Blind Square and use it on a daily basis.

I've never used it with Apple Maps or anything else but know people do.  I 
think the developer is on this list but not sure.  However, if you want more 
information, you should subscribe to the list run by Mike May at Sendero group. 
 I can send you the subscribe info off list if you want it.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:05, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

Do you like the blind Square app? Do you have anything to say about it? I 
assume that it is quite good but I don't know. One thing I would like to do is 
find a point of interest and then have Apple maps or Navigon take me there. I'm 
assuming that's possible to? Thanks Ronnie information.

Sent from my IPhone


 On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I use Blind square just to get me to my buss stop.  When the Seeing I gets 
 updated and you can make your own points of interest then I'll be using that 
 too.  Here in the UK Seeing I is called the RNIB Navigator.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 20:52, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I will be traveling in the Virgin Islands late October and I will need a good 
 points of interest app. I am assuming that blind Square is the best out 
 there? I've never used it. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would like 
 something that will work in concert with either Apple maps or NAVIGON. Thanks
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
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Re: New iPhones

2015-08-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland


Sort a.

Remember:  64 bit sometimes can be backward compatible.  Let me be very 
clear.  I didn't say it always! can be, but sometimes depending on 
circumstances, it can be.  So, theoretically, you probably could get away 
still with running some things that were designed more for x86 platform.  It 
really just depends.


Chris.

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From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:01 AM
Subject: New iPhones


Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant year 
for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. 
Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is concerned. 
To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range as even the 
new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! RIP.


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Re: Office 2016?

2015-08-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Wait a second.  You're saying the accessibility isn't any good in 2016, or 
are you saying in 2011.  I'm a little confused.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: sadam.li...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Office 2016?

Don't bother. The accessibility has regressed majorly.

Sent from my iPhone

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On 28 Aug 2015, at 9:22 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks man. So under the  installation they don't have 2011 for the mac?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

OK, so I just called Microsoft for you to ask about this, as I was 
actually curious myself.

So, here's the deal.  Office 2016 for the mac is available, yes, not even 
as the public preview.  It's out, but! hold on!  there is a little small 
catch. It is out, yes, but right now, it's only available to Office 365 
subscribers.  Not to official non-365 subscribers who just want it as is, 
full fledged.  However, on the plus side of this, it is apparently 
supposed to be fully released without the need for Office 365 come next 
month.

Once this is done, they will also then be releasing Office 2016 for 
Windows for both 365 members as well as non-365 full fledged users.

Please realize that none of what I am saying here breaks any NDA.  I'm 
telling you exactly what I was directly told by a Microsoft sales agent 
named Hermon.

If you want to get either of the versions out now of Microsoft Office for 
a mac, or a Windows PC, then here's what you need to do.

First off, be sure you're subscribed to Office 365.  You can do this 
through

http://www.office.com

Once you have done this, go back to the above link, and sign in with your 
Microsoft passport.

Once in, click on the link for my account.

I think a more direct link actually is:

http://account.office.com

It might be

http://myaccount.office.com

It's one of the two, I just don't recall which.

Once you're at this page and logged in, you  should see a section for 
installation.  If you look under here, you'll see the option to download 
either of these installers, for the mac, or for a PC.  Pick the one you 
want, download it, and install it by running the installer.  Then, make 
sure during the installer that you sign in with your Microsoft passport 
if asked to do so.  It's been a while since I've needed to install, so I 
don't recall exactly what that process is, but I know it's very very 
straight forward.

Once done, you're good to go.

As for the accessibility, I've not used it in a while, but I did try one 
of the older public previews, and for what it was worth, yes, there were 
some major issues, but for the most part, unless you were doing really 
really really heavy editting, it worked quite well.  Even MS Word finally 
has been fixed where now you can read the document window.  Remember that 
this was quite a few preview builds back though, so I'd honestly give it 
a shot.  I think you'll be at least somewhat, if not very impressed.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com
To: mac list macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:12 PM
Subject: Office 2016?

Is ms office 2016 for the mac out yet? If so is it accessible?

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Re: Office 2016?

2015-08-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I'm sure that you could probably get 2011, but why?  For one, it's not 
accessible.  I think you still could get it, but not with the method I 
outlined.  I'm not sure how you'd go about that.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Office 2016?


Thanks man. So under the  installation they don't have 2011 for the mac?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


OK, so I just called Microsoft for you to ask about this, as I was 
actually curious myself.


So, here's the deal.  Office 2016 for the mac is available, yes, not even 
as the public preview.  It's out, but! hold on!  there is a little small 
catch. It is out, yes, but right now, it's only available to Office 365 
subscribers.  Not to official non-365 subscribers who just want it as is, 
full fledged.  However, on the plus side of this, it is apparently 
supposed to be fully released without the need for Office 365 come next 
month.


Once this is done, they will also then be releasing Office 2016 for 
Windows for both 365 members as well as non-365 full fledged users.


Please realize that none of what I am saying here breaks any NDA.  I'm 
telling you exactly what I was directly told by a Microsoft sales agent 
named Hermon.


If you want to get either of the versions out now of Microsoft Office for 
a mac, or a Windows PC, then here's what you need to do.


First off, be sure you're subscribed to Office 365.  You can do this 
through


http://www.office.com

Once you have done this, go back to the above link, and sign in with your 
Microsoft passport.


Once in, click on the link for my account.

I think a more direct link actually is:

http://account.office.com

It might be

http://myaccount.office.com

It's one of the two, I just don't recall which.

Once you're at this page and logged in, you  should see a section for 
installation.  If you look under here, you'll see the option to download 
either of these installers, for the mac, or for a PC.  Pick the one you 
want, download it, and install it by running the installer.  Then, make 
sure during the installer that you sign in with your Microsoft passport if 
asked to do so.  It's been a while since I've needed to install, so I 
don't recall exactly what that process is, but I know it's very very 
straight forward.


Once done, you're good to go.

As for the accessibility, I've not used it in a while, but I did try one 
of the older public previews, and for what it was worth, yes, there were 
some major issues, but for the most part, unless you were doing really 
really really heavy editting, it worked quite well.  Even MS Word finally 
has been fixed where now you can read the document window.  Remember that 
this was quite a few preview builds back though, so I'd honestly give it a 
shot.  I think you'll be at least somewhat, if not very impressed.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com
To: mac list macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:12 PM
Subject: Office 2016?



Is ms office 2016 for the mac out yet? If so is it accessible?

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Re: Good points of interest app for iPhone six

I use Blind square just to get me to my buss stop.  When the Seeing I gets 
updated and you can make your own points of interest then I'll be using that 
too.  Here in the UK Seeing I is called the RNIB Navigator.
On 28 Aug 2015, at 20:52, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

I will be traveling in the Virgin Islands late October and I will need a good 
points of interest app. I am assuming that blind Square is the best out there? 
I've never used it. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would like 
something that will work in concert with either Apple maps or NAVIGON. Thanks

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: accessible video editing software for mac

2015-08-28 Thread Phil Halton

Not quite sure if I understand what you mean by wanting to keep the 
accompanying video and video intact, but you could make a duplicate of the 
movie, and then using QuickTime edit the three-minute you want keeping only 
that. This is done fairly easily by splitting the video at one point and then 
again at the end point of your selected clip and then deleting the two 
extraneous clips you were then left with the 3 minute clip that you

Want to keep. QuickTime is definitely a bare-bones video editor, but you can 
split clips and delete those clips easily. This allows you to isolate sections 
of the movie. Sent from my IPhone


 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is there an accessible video editor for mac? I have an hour-long video which 
 I need to edit all but approximately 3 minutes out. The 3 minute clip which I 
 want to keep is approximately 10 minutes into the video. I would like to keep 
 the video that goes along with those three minutes in tact. Is there any 
 software that will let me do this?
 Thanks,
 Courtney
 
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RE: i-mac loading issue

I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front my
computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of the
passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I believe
that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password and went
in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get around
this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing the
disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?

Faith
On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and
 maybe they had a little vision



 *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *christopher hallsworth
 *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
 *To:* macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: i-mac loading issue



 Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind
 with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark has
 appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup chime
 and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or anything like
 that?

 On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hello, all;

 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, but
 instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with a
 question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.

 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?

 Please let me know as soon as you are able.

 Faith



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Using Software update.

when using the software update in the vo m menu does a person need to 
have an apple id? to use software update?


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Re: concerning iDrive

2015-08-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr

Okay.  That's interesting.  So, how then do I get to where I pay for iCloud 
drive?  I presume it involves a little more than just selecting files and then 
pressing CMD+shift+i then either CMD+V  to paste or else CMD+shift+v to move.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 6:19 PM, William Gallik wfgal...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ray;
 
 Actually, I cloud Drive does not function the same way as dropbox. You have 
 one copy of the file because it mirrors your folder structure the originating 
 device – I. Eat. Mac, iPhone, iPad.
 
 
 
 
 - Bill 
 - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 No, I specicially said that I was not talking about icloud drive.  IF I'm 
 right, and I were to use Icloud drive, doesn't that mean having at least two 
 coppies of everything on my Mac like I'd have to have with Drop box?  No, 
 I'm talking about the Idrive that you hear advertized on the radio:  Not the 
 iCloud drive folder you access by pressing Command+shift+I.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com 
 mailto:kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Ray.
 
 I use I Cloud Drive if that is what you are talking about.
 
 I pay a subscription every month for the Sum of £2.99 but not sure what 
 that is in dollars.  For that price I get 200 of storage space.  I just put 
 everything there so I have no problems if I want to do a clean install on 
 my Mac computers as next month I have two to upgrade to the new Mac 
 operating system.  I can't spell or say the word so won't write it.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Kawal.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 I'm thinking about iDrive as a form of backup.  Question is this.  Who here 
 has tried iDrive:  and, among those of y'all who have, would y'all say that 
 iDrive is worth the cost, or stay away and choose something else?  I'm 
 asking because I cannot use Drop Box as a backup since I have no other 
 physical drive I can point it to, and, honestly, if I am going to do a 
 clean install of my Mac OS, I'd better back all my stuff first.  So, how 
 bout it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

2015-08-28 Thread Aleeha Dudley

I don't want to spread doom and gloom, but this happened to me and all my data 
was corrupted. I had to wipe the whole drive and start over. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:28 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Hmmm. I missed the start of this discussion, but do you have FileVault 
 turned on by chance?  When you try to boot into recovery, it prompts you for 
 the password? If this is the case, try typing your Apple ID and then your 
 password to see if that will unlock the system for you.
 
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried to 
 go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am trying 
 to get around.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
   You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by pressing 
 and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit and start 
 VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options available to 
 you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to the Utilities 
 menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then when the 
 terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword
 
   This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want and 
 reset the password of that user.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do I run Terminal?
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 I've heard you can run Terminal and type
 resetpassword
 which will do what it says on the tin.
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front 
 my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of 
 the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I 
 believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password 
 and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get 
 around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing 
 the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
 Faith
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and 
 maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher 
 hallsworth
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
 Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind 
 with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark 
 has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup 
 chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or 
 anything like that?
 
 On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Hello, all;
 
 When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
 symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, 
 but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with 
 a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
 What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
 Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
 Faith
 
 
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

Are you also asked for a username? And at what point do you get the prompt to 
enter a password? Is VoiceOver available at that point? It could be asking for 
a firmware password, and you can’t reset that yourself. If there’s a firmware 
password which you can’t remember, you’ll have to visit an Apple retail store 
or phone Apple to request service. Not saying it is definitely a firmware 
password, but it may be beneficial to get someone who can see the screen to 
read what you’re being prompted for.

Grant

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:24:26 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried to 
 go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am trying to 
 get around.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by pressing 
 and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit and start 
 VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options available to 
 you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to the Utilities 
 menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then when the 
 terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword
 
This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want and 
 reset the password of that user.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479 tel:%28631%29%20724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
  On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I run Terminal?
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
  mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
  I've heard you can run Terminal and type
  resetpassword
  which will do what it says on the tin.
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front 
  my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of 
  the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I 
  believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password 
  and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get 
  around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing 
  the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
  Faith
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com 
  mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and 
  maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher 
  hallsworth
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
  Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind 
  with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark 
  has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup 
  chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or 
  anything like that?
 
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello, all;
 
  When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
  symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, 
  but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with 
  a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
  What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
  Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
  Faith
 
 
 
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Accessible remote login

Hi all,

Have any VoiceOver users figured out if there is a way to remotely login to 
another Mac and use the GUI, in an accessible way?

Thanks,

Grant

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Markup

Hi all,

Has anyone successfully used Markup to sign PDF documents?

I’ve successfully created a signature using the trackpad, but I have no idea 
whether with VO there is any way to place the signature at the correct spot. It 
seems that once you insert the signature into a document, a sighted user has to 
move it to the correct location visually. Is this correct?

Grant

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Re: i-mac loading issue

I called Apple and I have an appointment with them on Sunday.
On Aug 28, 2015 8:30 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

 Are you also asked for a username? And at what point do you get the prompt
 to enter a password? Is VoiceOver available at that point? It could be
 asking for a firmware password, and you can’t reset that yourself. If
 there’s a firmware password which you can’t remember, you’ll have to visit
 an Apple retail store or phone Apple to request service. Not saying it is
 definitely a firmware password, but it may be beneficial to get someone who
 can see the screen to read what you’re being prompted for.

 Grant

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:24:26 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried
 to go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am
 trying to get around.
 On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by
 pressing and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit
 and start VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options
 available to you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to
 the Utilities menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then
 when the terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword

This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want
 and reset the password of that user.


 Take Care

 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



  On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I run Terminal?
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
  I've heard you can run Terminal and type
  resetpassword
  which will do what it says on the tin.
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in
 front my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most
 of the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I
 believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password
 and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get
 around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing
 the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
  Faith
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone
 and maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
  Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or
 blind with light perception user know if the file folder with a question
 mark has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the
 startup chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or
 anything like that?
 
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello, all;
 
  When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the
 apple symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading
 properly, but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file
 folder with a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than
 that.
 
  What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
  Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
  Faith
 
 
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

I was not asked for a username, just a password.
On Aug 28, 2015 8:30 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

 Are you also asked for a username? And at what point do you get the prompt
 to enter a password? Is VoiceOver available at that point? It could be
 asking for a firmware password, and you can’t reset that yourself. If
 there’s a firmware password which you can’t remember, you’ll have to visit
 an Apple retail store or phone Apple to request service. Not saying it is
 definitely a firmware password, but it may be beneficial to get someone who
 can see the screen to read what you’re being prompted for.

 Grant

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:24:26 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried
 to go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am
 trying to get around.
 On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by
 pressing and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit
 and start VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options
 available to you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to
 the Utilities menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then
 when the terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword

This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want
 and reset the password of that user.


 Take Care

 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



  On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I run Terminal?
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
  I've heard you can run Terminal and type
  resetpassword
  which will do what it says on the tin.
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in
 front my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most
 of the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I
 believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password
 and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get
 around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing
 the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
  Faith
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone
 and maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
  Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or
 blind with light perception user know if the file folder with a question
 mark has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the
 startup chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or
 anything like that?
 
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello, all;
 
  When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the
 apple symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading
 properly, but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file
 folder with a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than
 that.
 
  What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
  Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
  Faith
 
 
 
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2015-08-28 Thread Daniel Chavez

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Re: i-mac loading issue

I see. I’m fairly sure this is a firmware password that was set at some point. 
Keep us posted on the resolution.

Grant

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:24:39 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was not asked for a username, just a password.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 8:30 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com 
 mailto:grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 Are you also asked for a username? And at what point do you get the prompt to 
 enter a password? Is VoiceOver available at that point? It could be asking 
 for a firmware password, and you can’t reset that yourself. If there’s a 
 firmware password which you can’t remember, you’ll have to visit an Apple 
 retail store or phone Apple to request service. Not saying it is definitely a 
 firmware password, but it may be beneficial to get someone who can see the 
 screen to read what you’re being prompted for.
 
 Grant
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:24:26 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
 mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried to 
 go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am trying 
 to get around.
 
 On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by pressing 
 and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit and start 
 VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options available to 
 you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to the Utilities 
 menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then when the 
 terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword
 
This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want and 
 reset the password of that user.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479 tel:%28631%29%20724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
  On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I run Terminal?
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
  mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
  I've heard you can run Terminal and type
  resetpassword
  which will do what it says on the tin.
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in front 
  my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most of 
  the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I 
  believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password 
  and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to 
  get around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with 
  repairing the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
  Faith
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com 
  mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone and 
  maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher 
  hallsworth
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
  Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or blind 
  with light perception user know if the file folder with a question mark 
  has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the startup 
  chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or 
  anything like that?
 
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com 
  mailto:fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello, all;
 
  When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the apple 
  symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading properly, 
  but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file folder with 
  a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than that.
 
  What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
  Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
  Faith
 
 
 
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Re: i-mac loading issue

I shall. Thank you.
On Aug 28, 2015 9:02 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

 I see. I’m fairly sure this is a firmware password that was set at some
 point. Keep us posted on the resolution.

 Grant

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:24:39 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was not asked for a username, just a password.
 On Aug 28, 2015 8:30 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

 Are you also asked for a username? And at what point do you get the
 prompt to enter a password? Is VoiceOver available at that point? It could
 be asking for a firmware password, and you can’t reset that yourself. If
 there’s a firmware password which you can’t remember, you’ll have to visit
 an Apple retail store or phone Apple to request service. Not saying it is
 definitely a firmware password, but it may be beneficial to get someone who
 can see the screen to read what you’re being prompted for.

 Grant

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:24:26 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't get that far.  It won't let me get that far because when I tried
 to go into the recovery disk it asks for a password which is what I am
 trying to get around.
 On Aug 28, 2015 5:22 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

You have to reboot the computer into the recovery partition by
 pressing and holding command-r for about ten seconds.  Then, give it a bit
 and start VoiceOver with command-F5. You should have the Recovery options
 available to you, and use VO-m to get to the menu bar. Navigate right to
 the Utilities menu and then go down to, Terminal.  Press VO-space and then
 when the terminal window is open, type, all one word,
 resetpassword

This should give you a GUI interface to choose the account you want
 and reset the password of that user.


 Take Care

 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



  On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I run Terminal?
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 4:48 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
  I've heard you can run Terminal and type
  resetpassword
  which will do what it says on the tin.
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 21:10, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I proceeded to do what you had suggested, but I  am now sitting in
 front my computer  with a lock and password field.  I have tried using most
 of the passwords I have had in the past, but none of them have worked.  I
 believe that my former roommates may have gone in and changed my password
 and went in when it was still on but I wasn't home.  Is there a way to get
 around this issue so that I can do what you have suggested with repairing
 the disk?  If so, how?  If not, where do I go from here?
 
  Faith
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:20 PM, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have some vision, so I was able to see it.
 
  On Aug 28, 2015 2:11 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well maybe someone told that person they did not say they were alone
 and maybe they had a little vision
 
 
 
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:02
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: i-mac loading issue
 
 
 
  Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but how would a totally blind or
 blind with light perception user know if the file folder with a question
 mark has appeared short of sighted assistance? Would all I hear is the
 startup chime and nothing else happen? Would there be any disk activity or
 anything like that?
 
  On 28 Aug 2015, at 17:52, Faith Girvan fgirva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello, all;
 
  When I  got in and turned  on my i-mac, you would normally  see the
 apple symbol show up.   In this case, it acted as if it was loading
 properly, but instead of loading the apple symbol it only showed a file
 folder with a question mark flashing and it wouldn't proceed further than
 that.
 
  What can I do from here?  Is this fixable?
 
  Please let me know as soon as you are able.
 
  Faith
 
 
 
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Re: Using Software update.