5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,

As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both
the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.

The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.

Enjoy,

Mark

5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired 
By Robert Siciliano
April 27, 2015 

In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having
vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll
get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen
in order to stay on the cutting edge.

The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help
some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it
easier for them to go about their daily lives.

>From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your
iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are
helping the blind and visually impaired.
  
1.
Shoes that guide you in the right direction
if you're walking somewhere new, you no longer need to focus on the audible
directions from your smartphone. Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide
instead. The insoles of the shoes connect with the corresponding app
(available for iOS, Android and Windows) via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a
vibration will alert you when you need to turn. A buzz in your left shoe
will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing gets stronger as the turn
nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means to turn in that direction.
If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.

While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this
feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people
around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
"Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian
Lawrence, the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most
tech today that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio
feedback, but if you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense
of hearing, so the feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus
on what's around you."

The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected
to start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for
navigating hiking trails.

2.
Glasses that help the color blind see color
Although they look like typical sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind
people see all different hues. Color blindness results from spectral
overlap, which is when the photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in
retinal cone cells) absorb more light than they should. Usually, of the
three types of cones in the retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs
blue light and a third absorbs red light. If a green cone absorbs too much
red light, for example, that spectral overlap means that the person will
have a difficult time distinguishing those colors.

The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green
colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete,
making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact
technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and
linear programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's
Notes are that they help to separate the crossing signals between cones,
creating more color variation. This article talks more about it.
 
3.
A bionic eye
You may have seen the video of a man who sees his wife for the first time in
years through the use of the Argus II, a so-called bionic eye. Dr. Robert
Greenberg, CEO of Second Sight, worked for 25 years to make that one
recorded moment possible.

Greenberg is the man behind the Argus II, which is designed to help patients
with retinal pigmentosa -- a degenerative disease that leads to blindness --
to have some form of vision. The system received FDA approval in 2013;
Greenberg received 300 issue patents of technology in the process.

First, in an outpatient procedure, patients are implanted with a small
device that sits on their retinas. The passive device is only activated when
the patients wear the corresponding glasses, which has a camera. Then, when
the glasses are on, the signal from the camera gets turned into electrical
impulses on a patient's eye. These impulses allow the patient sees a spot of
light corresponding to what's in front of them.

Dr. Greenberg says the resulting image is low-resolution and in grayscale,
though he has figured out how to produce color and says the device could be
upgradeable. He compares it to lights on a scoreboard or pixels on a
monitor.

More than 100 people have used the device, which retails for just under
$145,000 (plus surgery and physicians fees), and the responses are
universally positive. "We hear many stories about being able to see a loved
one again and move about independently," he says.

4.
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Re: Confused about bootcamp drivers for windows7 installation on mac

[E.T.]

   Its amazing how Apple can put out information in several places that 
do not sync. Of course, its a large company with many heads that do not 
talk to one another.


   Here is a link that specifically relates to El Capitan which I 
should have shared sooner.




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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/14/2016 4:44 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Use this article to check which versions of Windows will run on which Mac 
models, and, where available, the download links to the software:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204048

As a rule, BootCamp Assistant always does the right thing, fetching the latest 
drivers and giving you the choice of install media for your hardware and 
supported OS.

BootCamp assistant partitions the disk, but you have to format the resulting 
partition.  OS X doesn’t know how to create an NTFS filesystem, but Windows 
Setup does.  So, the partition starts out as FAT32, which Windows recognises as 
space that can be used for Windows if you format it first.  Press “Drive 
Options …” or some such button in Setup, once “BOOTCAMP” is selected.

In my experience Apple are generally quite ruthless in dropping outdated 
information, and calling it “Archived”.  If the support article says that it’s 
archived, it won’t get maintenance, whereas if it doesn’t, it’s probably still 
current but missing information you need in your particular case.  For example, 
the current BootCamp help pages simply do not explain what optical 
drive-containing Mac owners should do to install Windows.  This is rather 
regrettable, because as things stand, most users will probably get very 
confused.



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Re: problems with shared folders between mac and linux sold

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

The reason is that Open-VM-Tools is now using a FUSE driver that one installs 
as part of the “open-vm-tools-desktop” package, whereas the proprietary tools 
are using a dedicated vmhgfs kernel module that is now deprecated.  I no longer 
use sharing because the dependency requirements are too heavy for a headless 
machine.

This ought, incidentally, to be a nice illustration of why so many people 
aren’t using Linux on their desktops. :)

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Re: Confused about bootcamp drivers for windows7 installation on mac

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Use this article to check which versions of Windows will run on which Mac 
models, and, where available, the download links to the software:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204048

As a rule, BootCamp Assistant always does the right thing, fetching the latest 
drivers and giving you the choice of install media for your hardware and 
supported OS.

BootCamp assistant partitions the disk, but you have to format the resulting 
partition.  OS X doesn’t know how to create an NTFS filesystem, but Windows 
Setup does.  So, the partition starts out as FAT32, which Windows recognises as 
space that can be used for Windows if you format it first.  Press “Drive 
Options …” or some such button in Setup, once “BOOTCAMP” is selected.

In my experience Apple are generally quite ruthless in dropping outdated 
information, and calling it “Archived”.  If the support article says that it’s 
archived, it won’t get maintenance, whereas if it doesn’t, it’s probably still 
current but missing information you need in your particular case.  For example, 
the current BootCamp help pages simply do not explain what optical 
drive-containing Mac owners should do to install Windows.  This is rather 
regrettable, because as things stand, most users will probably get very 
confused.

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Re: problems with shared folders between mac and linux sold

[mohammad suliman]

hi,
this was also my experience when I installed VMware on windows with Ubuntu.
the documentation is terrible, so spent several hours trying to 
configure shared folders.


On 1/14/2016 5:55 AM, Michael Marshall wrote:

hey all,
just wanting to let the list know that i have at last got my folders between 
mac and ubuntu working on VM Fusion.
even the instructions from VM were wrong on this.
i had to remove open VM tools because it would not mount the HGFS directory and 
install the VM tools that came with Fusion.
i moved the installer files to a temp folder in linux and ran a command to 
install from there.
if anyone wants the commands i will send them your way.

thanks

Michael



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Problems with a specialized device, my iPhone success in my mid-2012 MacBook Pro.

[maurice.mines]

Hello, I am having a very interesting problem, with the devices that I use 
interacting well together.

One, whenever I get an alert, email, text message, etc. from my iPhone success, 
my MacBook Pro, somehow tells my hearing aid streamer, a calm pilot to made by 
Phonak,  a Swedish hearing aid maker. Whenever the above-mentioned kind of 
alerts appear on my phone the computer regardless of what I’m doing which is to 
launch iTunes, no matter what I seem to do to prevent this behavior it happens 
constantly.

The calm pilot is connected to the MacBook Pro via Bluetooth. I have mentioned 
this situation both my audiologist, and Apple tech support both the regular 
support, and the disability support offices, the answer that I get from Apple 
so far is that because of the underlying technologies involved in iTunes in 
order to fix the problem would potentially cause stability issues with the 
operating system told us they are not allowed to help me with this issue. I am 
deaf buying and I’m getting very frustrated with the situation, does anyone 
have any good suggestions? I’m curious to know what everyone’s thoughts are. 
Because it is making my computer use very stressful.

Sincerely Maurice mines.
amateur radio call sign, kd0iko.
board member national Federation of the blind of New Mexico Albuquerque chapter.
Message number, 505-369-3283.
Note that this email has been dictated by using Dragon 4.0 for Mac. If there 
are any errors it is the result of either the software or the dictation 
process. Thank you very much for reading this.

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Sleep Timer?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Guys,

Firstly, let me clarify up front that I am speaking in this post specifically 
of working with the mac side of things, not! with I O S.

That said and out of the way, is there a sleep timer functionality built into 
ITunes on the mac?  I have a huge playlist that I'd like to fall asleep with, 
but I don't want it necessarily to play for all eternity, OK, not literally, 
after I've drifted off to sleep.

If ITunes can't do this, would VLC be able to?

At either case, if so, can someone please instruct me in either app how to go 
about setting this up?

If neither have this ability, is there an app I could get which will do the 
job?  If it helps, these files are mainly mp3's with maybe 1 or 2 m4A's along 
the way, though not many.

Chris.

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Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S


Well, you did say to call you weird and I'm nothing if not obliging.🤔

Sent from my IPhone


On Jan 14, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Why thank you!  I take it as a complement.  Ha.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S


OK, you're weird!😉


Sent from my IPhone


On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


It looks like that might be the best sollution.  I don't really care for 
the ducking ability, as said in my initial post.  I find it to be a bit 
jarring, but it's looking like I might not have a choice.  I really don't 
like my music going up and down in volume.  Call me weird, but, yeah...


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S


What about audio ducking? Isn't that lowering the background sound when 
voiceover is speaking?.



Sent from my IPhone


On Jan 14, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:


Guys,

I've got a question.  I have recently acquired a very nice bluetooth 
case for my IPad Air 1st gen.  I'm therefore using the unit way more 
than before.


What I need to know is, let's assume that I want to check e-mail, or 
maybe browse the web while listening to music in the background.  I 
definitely know how to do this in general, and am very familiar with the 
app switcher, etc.  What concerns me though is the fact that with music 
playing, I might not be able to effectively hear Voiceover speaking.


So, the ten million dollar question:  Is there a way that I can do like 
I do on the mac with ITunes, in that I could turn the volume down just 
of my music without effecting the volume of Voiceover?  I definitely 
know that there is an inlined volume control slider within the Music 
app, but I'm noticing that when I turn it up or down, it's effecting my 
Voiceover volume as well.


I know about the audio ducking feature, which is on by default, but I've 
turned that off, as I find the ducking to not be very natural.  In fact, 
frankly, I find it to be quite jarring.


Is ducking really my only option?

Thanks.

Chris.

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Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S

[Phil Halton]

Well, you did say to call you weird and I'm nothing if not obliging.🤔

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 14, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Why thank you!  I take it as a complement.  Ha.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S
> 
> 
> OK, you're weird!😉
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It looks like that might be the best sollution.  I don't really care for the 
>> ducking ability, as said in my initial post.  I find it to be a bit jarring, 
>> but it's looking like I might not have a choice.  I really don't like my 
>> music going up and down in volume.  Call me weird, but, yeah...
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S
>> 
>> 
>> What about audio ducking? Isn't that lowering the background sound when 
>> voiceover is speaking?.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Christopher Gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> I've got a question.  I have recently acquired a very nice bluetooth case 
>>> for my IPad Air 1st gen.  I'm therefore using the unit way more than before.
>>> 
>>> What I need to know is, let's assume that I want to check e-mail, or maybe 
>>> browse the web while listening to music in the background.  I definitely 
>>> know how to do this in general, and am very familiar with the app switcher, 
>>> etc.  What concerns me though is the fact that with music playing, I might 
>>> not be able to effectively hear Voiceover speaking.
>>> 
>>> So, the ten million dollar question:  Is there a way that I can do like I 
>>> do on the mac with ITunes, in that I could turn the volume down just of my 
>>> music without effecting the volume of Voiceover?  I definitely know that 
>>> there is an inlined volume control slider within the Music app, but I'm 
>>> noticing that when I turn it up or down, it's effecting my Voiceover volume 
>>> as well.
>>> 
>>> I know about the audio ducking feature, which is on by default, but I've 
>>> turned that off, as I find the ducking to not be very natural.  In fact, 
>>> frankly, I find it to be quite jarring.
>>> 
>>> Is ducking really my only option?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> sent from my iPad
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Re: Airplay drives me nuts.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There’s a symbol named airplay on the itunes screen.
Try to vo space on that and see if that brings up a popup menu.
/A
> On 13 Jan 2016, at 21:28, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry to hear this and do not have an answer. But I have a
> question of my own. How do I turn off airplay? Everytime I play a song
> in iTunes is keeps saying that the airplay is not connected to my
> airport express.
> I already have a setup to play my music through speakers and thus do
> not need airplay.
> Thanks,
> Vaughn
> 
> On 1/12/16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I don’t know what is going on here.
>> My Mac Mini plays fine on my airport express connected to my stereo.
>> However i have tried my Macbook Air which is newer and had the Latest el
>> Capitan installed on it.
>> It does not work as good as my Mac mini with a newer beta of El Capitan but
>> the computer  than this.
>> On my Macbook the sound is very choppy and i can not stand listening to it.
>> And yes i have been trying to move the macbook around my appartment but it
>> does not help.
>> Have also tried to replace the airport device as much as possible.
>> Does not help.
>> I am very irritated and sad and hoped such things would have been fixed in
>> newer versions.
>> Things works great with ios devices on my airplay system so i don’t know.
>> /Aitself is older.
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How T-Mobile is writing the manual for fucking up the internet. (original authors wording / title)

[Scott Granados]

FYI the language is part of the article and I’m quoting in context, not adding 
my special brand of color.:)

I do quote this article here because I think it’s worth reading.  It details 
the corporate interests verses the pubic interest and the attacks on keeping an 
open network.  There’s a very small amount of language but it’s in context and 
not gratuitous in my opinion but if you’re offended then please hit delete.  
For everyone else read on and enjoy, it’s worth your time.  Read more here.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/10/9706296/t-mobile-binge-on-streaming-net-neutrality-problem-john-legere
 



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AT&T launches 700 mhz band 12 interoperability across it's network

[Scott Granados]

AT&T announces activation on it’s network of band 12 or 700 mhz A band.  This 
new spectrum will be used for roaming and other interoperability between 
carriers.  T-Mobile, US Cellular and other carriers will be able to roam both 
voice and data on to the AT&T network.  Some challenges still exist but 
definite progress is being made.  Read more here.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/att-turned-700-mhz-interoperability-feature-network-selling-band-12-capable/2015-10-05
 




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Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Why thank you!  I take it as a complement.  Ha.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S


OK, you're weird!😉


Sent from my IPhone


On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


It looks like that might be the best sollution.  I don't really care for 
the ducking ability, as said in my initial post.  I find it to be a bit 
jarring, but it's looking like I might not have a choice.  I really don't 
like my music going up and down in volume.  Call me weird, but, yeah...


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S


What about audio ducking? Isn't that lowering the background sound when 
voiceover is speaking?.



Sent from my IPhone


On Jan 14, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:


Guys,

I've got a question.  I have recently acquired a very nice bluetooth case 
for my IPad Air 1st gen.  I'm therefore using the unit way more than 
before.


What I need to know is, let's assume that I want to check e-mail, or 
maybe browse the web while listening to music in the background.  I 
definitely know how to do this in general, and am very familiar with the 
app switcher, etc.  What concerns me though is the fact that with music 
playing, I might not be able to effectively hear Voiceover speaking.


So, the ten million dollar question:  Is there a way that I can do like I 
do on the mac with ITunes, in that I could turn the volume down just of 
my music without effecting the volume of Voiceover?  I definitely know 
that there is an inlined volume control slider within the Music app, but 
I'm noticing that when I turn it up or down, it's effecting my Voiceover 
volume as well.


I know about the audio ducking feature, which is on by default, but I've 
turned that off, as I find the ducking to not be very natural.  In fact, 
frankly, I find it to be quite jarring.


Is ducking really my only option?

Thanks.

Chris.

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Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S

[Phil Halton]

OK, you're weird!😉


Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> It looks like that might be the best sollution.  I don't really care for the 
> ducking ability, as said in my initial post.  I find it to be a bit jarring, 
> but it's looking like I might not have a choice.  I really don't like my 
> music going up and down in volume.  Call me weird, but, yeah...
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S
> 
> 
> What about audio ducking? Isn't that lowering the background sound when 
> voiceover is speaking?.
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Christopher Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I've got a question.  I have recently acquired a very nice bluetooth case 
>> for my IPad Air 1st gen.  I'm therefore using the unit way more than before.
>> 
>> What I need to know is, let's assume that I want to check e-mail, or maybe 
>> browse the web while listening to music in the background.  I definitely 
>> know how to do this in general, and am very familiar with the app switcher, 
>> etc.  What concerns me though is the fact that with music playing, I might 
>> not be able to effectively hear Voiceover speaking.
>> 
>> So, the ten million dollar question:  Is there a way that I can do like I do 
>> on the mac with ITunes, in that I could turn the volume down just of my 
>> music without effecting the volume of Voiceover?  I definitely know that 
>> there is an inlined volume control slider within the Music app, but I'm 
>> noticing that when I turn it up or down, it's effecting my Voiceover volume 
>> as well.
>> 
>> I know about the audio ducking feature, which is on by default, but I've 
>> turned that off, as I find the ducking to not be very natural.  In fact, 
>> frankly, I find it to be quite jarring.
>> 
>> Is ducking really my only option?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> sent from my iPad
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Re: Access IOS File System from OSX

[Devin Prater]

Iexplorer can somewhat do it. 

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> On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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> 
> I would like to access the file system on my iPhone from my Mac running the 
> latest versions on both.  My iPhone is not jail broken, nor do I wish to do 
> so.  I'd like to gain access to the file system though.  Does anybody know an 
> accessible tool to do so?
> 
> Thx,
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Access IOS File System from OSX

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

I would like to access the file system on my iPhone from my Mac running the 
latest versions on both.  My iPhone is not jail broken, nor do I wish to do so. 
 I'd like to gain access to the file system though.  Does anybody know an 
accessible tool to do so?

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Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

It looks like that might be the best sollution.  I don't really care for the 
ducking ability, as said in my initial post.  I find it to be a bit jarring, 
but it's looking like I might not have a choice.  I really don't like my 
music going up and down in volume.  Call me weird, but, yeah...


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S


What about audio ducking? Isn't that lowering the background sound when 
voiceover is speaking?.



Sent from my IPhone


On Jan 14, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:


Guys,

I've got a question.  I have recently acquired a very nice bluetooth case 
for my IPad Air 1st gen.  I'm therefore using the unit way more than 
before.


What I need to know is, let's assume that I want to check e-mail, or maybe 
browse the web while listening to music in the background.  I definitely 
know how to do this in general, and am very familiar with the app 
switcher, etc.  What concerns me though is the fact that with music 
playing, I might not be able to effectively hear Voiceover speaking.


So, the ten million dollar question:  Is there a way that I can do like I 
do on the mac with ITunes, in that I could turn the volume down just of my 
music without effecting the volume of Voiceover?  I definitely know that 
there is an inlined volume control slider within the Music app, but I'm 
noticing that when I turn it up or down, it's effecting my Voiceover 
volume as well.


I know about the audio ducking feature, which is on by default, but I've 
turned that off, as I find the ducking to not be very natural.  In fact, 
frankly, I find it to be quite jarring.


Is ducking really my only option?

Thanks.

Chris.

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Managing archives.

['Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries]

Hello all.
What software do I need on my mac to manage the Archive file like under 
windows?
I mean, to compress and decompress file, creating self-extracting 
archives, compressed .rar or .zip file divided in to a multiple parts or 
in a single file, Create a compressed archive closed with password.
Under Windows I use RAR which is very good but under Mac OS X, with in 
the Appstore I can find only unarchivers.


Thanks for tips.

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Re: Question about multi-tasking on I O S

[Phil Halton]

What about audio ducking? Isn't that lowering the background sound when 
voiceover is speaking?.


Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 14, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I've got a question.  I have recently acquired a very nice bluetooth case for 
> my IPad Air 1st gen.  I'm therefore using the unit way more than before.
> 
> What I need to know is, let's assume that I want to check e-mail, or maybe 
> browse the web while listening to music in the background.  I definitely know 
> how to do this in general, and am very familiar with the app switcher, etc.  
> What concerns me though is the fact that with music playing, I might not be 
> able to effectively hear Voiceover speaking.
> 
> So, the ten million dollar question:  Is there a way that I can do like I do 
> on the mac with ITunes, in that I could turn the volume down just of my music 
> without effecting the volume of Voiceover?  I definitely know that there is 
> an inlined volume control slider within the Music app, but I'm noticing that 
> when I turn it up or down, it's effecting my Voiceover volume as well.
> 
> I know about the audio ducking feature, which is on by default, but I've 
> turned that off, as I find the ducking to not be very natural.  In fact, 
> frankly, I find it to be quite jarring.
> 
> Is ducking really my only option?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> sent from my iPad
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Re: Adding items not running to the dock?

[BBS]

George, instead of keeping it off list, why not start a new thread altogether? 
Intrigued minds such as mine would like to know this as well. I have a VM of 
Windows 10 and it can sometimes get very sluggish and my Mac's fan has to work 
very hard to keep up. This is also the case with a Windows 7 VM I have. I'm 
running the latest El Capitan with Fusion 8 on a mid 2010 white MacBook.

Shawn
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Basioli George 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Adding items not running to the dock?


  hi Keath and all;


  Keath could you please email me off list at


  gbma...@gmail.com


  i really woould like to talk to you about useing v m fusion 8.
  i have the app. but wish to understand how to install and set up to it’s 
optimal functions with a iMac and windows 10 please.


  thanks


  george




On Jan 14, 2016, at 4:01 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


The practical thing is, you don't have to have a Finder Window opened with 
your applications, therefore it's less screen clutter.  Just pop yourself into 
the dock, open your app of choice, or whatever, and boom.  You're done, nothing 
in the way.

And, you're very close.  It's actually command+ctrl+shift+T.  Don't forget 
that shift key.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anatoliy Popko" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:50 AM
Subject: RE: Adding items not running to the dock?



  Keith,

  Control+Command+t is the shortcut (press when the focus is in Finder on 
the application you need).

  Sidenote: I also haven't really figured out a place for the Doc in my 
user experience. Seems like not much key combinations to save: Command+Shift+a 
+ first letter navigation or VO+d + first letter navigation.

  If anyone has a practical use (not just a habitual user pattern) for the 
Doc, please, share. Actually, the same holds true for the Launchpad.

  -- 
  Best regards,
  Anatoliy D. Popko


  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:21
  To: macvisionaries 
  Subject: Adding items not running to the dock?

  Hi folks,
  I'm curious, but how does somebody go about adding an application that 
might not currently be running to the dock?

  The dock is a feature of OS Ten despite having used OS Ten for over two 
years now that I've never really used.
  Usually, I've always gone in to the applications area and launched an 
application with command-O.
  I'd like to start adding other applications other than Mail, Safari, etc 
to the Dock though for faster access.

  VMware Fusion is an application that I tend to do serious Windows work in 
for quite a lot of things.
  So, how might I go about adding Fusion to the dock for example for faster 
productivity?

  Thanks,
  Keith

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Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, I need to see.  I think my 6+ might be on a beta.  I don't remember.  I 
can't update the IPad, as I use it for work, as well as personal use.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Devin Prater 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S


  Report it to Apple, and if you can, try updating to a beta on one of your 
devices and see if its still there. If so, report that to appbe as well. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Well, no offense intended, but, if your bet were a gamble, then you'd a 
lost your money, as yes.  I've tried this many many times, and, it's not just 
this one device.  I'm having this issue as well on both of my IPhones, a 6+ and 
a 6S.  So clearly, I'm either doing something wrong, or there really is truly a 
bigtime bug that Apple needs to look into.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Werner 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S


  Chris, have you tried forgetting the keyboard and then re-enabling the 
Bluetooth connection? I'll bet you have.


  Craig

  On Thursday, January 14, 2016, Christopher Gilland 
 wrote:

Folks, I desperately could use some help.

I am using a bluetooth keyboard with my IPad Air.  When I try editting 
text by means of arrowing around a text area with my arrow keys in all 4 
directions, although mainly when moving left and right character by character, 
I'm finding that sometimes Voiceover reads correctly the character the cursor 
passes, as expected, but more times than not, it reads that, but it also reads 
the next character as well.  Say I typed the word cat, but actually wanted to 
say cash.  I know I could backspace out the t then type s h, but let's say I 
left arrowed after typing the t in cat.  I might hear it say T, which is fine, 
but other times when I left arrow I'd hear it say t A.  So, OK, is my cursor to 
the left of the T?  Or is it now to the left of the A.  It's incredibly 
difficult to tell when it does this, and therefore, I often get terribly bad 
edits.

Is there a work around to this?

I'm on I O S 9.2, and no, this is not a beta of any type.

Chris.


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Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

By the way,

I've reported this issue to Apple many upon many upon many! times, and just did 
so again this morning.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Devin Prater 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S


  Report it to Apple, and if you can, try updating to a beta on one of your 
devices and see if its still there. If so, report that to appbe as well. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Well, no offense intended, but, if your bet were a gamble, then you'd a 
lost your money, as yes.  I've tried this many many times, and, it's not just 
this one device.  I'm having this issue as well on both of my IPhones, a 6+ and 
a 6S.  So clearly, I'm either doing something wrong, or there really is truly a 
bigtime bug that Apple needs to look into.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Werner 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S


  Chris, have you tried forgetting the keyboard and then re-enabling the 
Bluetooth connection? I'll bet you have.


  Craig

  On Thursday, January 14, 2016, Christopher Gilland 
 wrote:

Folks, I desperately could use some help.

I am using a bluetooth keyboard with my IPad Air.  When I try editting 
text by means of arrowing around a text area with my arrow keys in all 4 
directions, although mainly when moving left and right character by character, 
I'm finding that sometimes Voiceover reads correctly the character the cursor 
passes, as expected, but more times than not, it reads that, but it also reads 
the next character as well.  Say I typed the word cat, but actually wanted to 
say cash.  I know I could backspace out the t then type s h, but let's say I 
left arrowed after typing the t in cat.  I might hear it say T, which is fine, 
but other times when I left arrow I'd hear it say t A.  So, OK, is my cursor to 
the left of the T?  Or is it now to the left of the A.  It's incredibly 
difficult to tell when it does this, and therefore, I often get terribly bad 
edits.

Is there a work around to this?

I'm on I O S 9.2, and no, this is not a beta of any type.

Chris.


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Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S

[Devin Prater]

Report it to Apple, and if you can, try updating to a beta on one of your 
devices and see if its still there. If so, report that to appbe as well. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, no offense intended, but, if your bet were a gamble, then you'd a lost 
> your money, as yes.  I've tried this many many times, and, it's not just this 
> one device.  I'm having this issue as well on both of my IPhones, a 6+ and a 
> 6S.  So clearly, I'm either doing something wrong, or there really is truly a 
> bigtime bug that Apple needs to look into.
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Craig Werner
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S
> 
> Chris, have you tried forgetting the keyboard and then re-enabling the 
> Bluetooth connection? I'll bet you have.
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Thursday, January 14, 2016, Christopher Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> Folks, I desperately could use some help.
>> 
>> I am using a bluetooth keyboard with my IPad Air.  When I try editting text 
>> by means of arrowing around a text area with my arrow keys in all 4 
>> directions, although mainly when moving left and right character by 
>> character, I'm finding that sometimes Voiceover reads correctly the 
>> character the cursor passes, as expected, but more times than not, it reads 
>> that, but it also reads the next character as well.  Say I typed the word 
>> cat, but actually wanted to say cash.  I know I could backspace out the t 
>> then type s h, but let's say I left arrowed after typing the t in cat.  I 
>> might hear it say T, which is fine, but other times when I left arrow I'd 
>> hear it say t A.  So, OK, is my cursor to the left of the T?  Or is it now 
>> to the left of the A.  It's incredibly difficult to tell when it does this, 
>> and therefore, I often get terribly bad edits.
>> 
>> Is there a work around to this?
>> 
>> I'm on I O S 9.2, and no, this is not a beta of any type.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> sent from my iPad
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Re: Adding items not running to the dock?

[Basioli George]

hi Keath and all;

Keath could you please email me off list at

gbma...@gmail.com 

i really woould like to talk to you about useing v m fusion 8.
i have the app. but wish to understand how to install and set up to it’s 
optimal functions with a iMac and windows 10 please.

thanks

george


> On Jan 14, 2016, at 4:01 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> The practical thing is, you don't have to have a Finder Window opened with 
> your applications, therefore it's less screen clutter.  Just pop yourself 
> into the dock, open your app of choice, or whatever, and boom.  You're done, 
> nothing in the way.
> 
> And, you're very close.  It's actually command+ctrl+shift+T.  Don't forget 
> that shift key.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anatoliy Popko" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:50 AM
> Subject: RE: Adding items not running to the dock?
> 
> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>> Control+Command+t is the shortcut (press when the focus is in Finder on the 
>> application you need).
>> 
>> Sidenote: I also haven't really figured out a place for the Doc in my user 
>> experience. Seems like not much key combinations to save: Command+Shift+a + 
>> first letter navigation or VO+d + first letter navigation.
>> 
>> If anyone has a practical use (not just a habitual user pattern) for the 
>> Doc, please, share. Actually, the same holds true for the Launchpad.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Anatoliy D. Popko
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:21
>> To: macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Adding items not running to the dock?
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I'm curious, but how does somebody go about adding an application that might 
>> not currently be running to the dock?
>> 
>> The dock is a feature of OS Ten despite having used OS Ten for over two 
>> years now that I've never really used.
>> Usually, I've always gone in to the applications area and launched an 
>> application with command-O.
>> I'd like to start adding other applications other than Mail, Safari, etc to 
>> the Dock though for faster access.
>> 
>> VMware Fusion is an application that I tend to do serious Windows work in 
>> for quite a lot of things.
>> So, how might I go about adding Fusion to the dock for example for faster 
>> productivity?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Keith
>> 
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Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Well, no offense intended, but, if your bet were a gamble, then you'd a lost 
your money, as yes.  I've tried this many many times, and, it's not just this 
one device.  I'm having this issue as well on both of my IPhones, a 6+ and a 
6S.  So clearly, I'm either doing something wrong, or there really is truly a 
bigtime bug that Apple needs to look into.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Werner 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S


  Chris, have you tried forgetting the keyboard and then re-enabling the 
Bluetooth connection? I'll bet you have.


  Craig

  On Thursday, January 14, 2016, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:

Folks, I desperately could use some help.

I am using a bluetooth keyboard with my IPad Air.  When I try editting text 
by means of arrowing around a text area with my arrow keys in all 4 directions, 
although mainly when moving left and right character by character, I'm finding 
that sometimes Voiceover reads correctly the character the cursor passes, as 
expected, but more times than not, it reads that, but it also reads the next 
character as well.  Say I typed the word cat, but actually wanted to say cash.  
I know I could backspace out the t then type s h, but let's say I left arrowed 
after typing the t in cat.  I might hear it say T, which is fine, but other 
times when I left arrow I'd hear it say t A.  So, OK, is my cursor to the left 
of the T?  Or is it now to the left of the A.  It's incredibly difficult to 
tell when it does this, and therefore, I often get terribly bad edits.

Is there a work around to this?

I'm on I O S 9.2, and no, this is not a beta of any type.

Chris.


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Re: Low power mode?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, really?  That's a good thing to know.  Thanks for the heads up.

Chris.

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  Subject: Re: Low power mode?


  Chris, if you don't want to turn off Power Mode in Settings, it will 
automatically disengage when your iDevice is charged to a certain point.


  Craig

  On Wednesday, January 13, 2016, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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I've accidentally turned on low power mode on my IPhone.  How do I disable 
it?

Chris.

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Re: Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S

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Chris, have you tried forgetting the keyboard and then re-enabling the
Bluetooth connection? I'll bet you have.

Craig

On Thursday, January 14, 2016, Christopher Gilland 
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> Folks, I desperately could use some help.
>
> I am using a bluetooth keyboard with my IPad Air.  When I try editting
> text by means of arrowing around a text area with my arrow keys in all 4
> directions, although mainly when moving left and right character by
> character, I'm finding that sometimes Voiceover reads correctly the
> character the cursor passes, as expected, but more times than not, it reads
> that, but it also reads the next character as well.  Say I typed the word
> cat, but actually wanted to say cash.  I know I could backspace out the t
> then type s h, but let's say I left arrowed after typing the t in cat.  I
> might hear it say T, which is fine, but other times when I left arrow I'd
> hear it say t A.  So, OK, is my cursor to the left of the T?  Or is it now
> to the left of the A.  It's incredibly difficult to tell when it does this,
> and therefore, I often get terribly bad edits.
>
> Is there a work around to this?
>
> I'm on I O S 9.2, and no, this is not a beta of any type.
>
> Chris.
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Re: Low power mode?

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Chris, if you don't want to turn off Power Mode in Settings, it will
automatically disengage when your iDevice is charged to a certain point.

Craig

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> I've accidentally turned on low power mode on my IPhone.  How do I disable
> it?
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Getting very irritated with editting text on I O S

[Christopher Gilland]

Folks, I desperately could use some help.

I am using a bluetooth keyboard with my IPad Air.  When I try editting text by 
means of arrowing around a text area with my arrow keys in all 4 directions, 
although mainly when moving left and right character by character, I'm finding 
that sometimes Voiceover reads correctly the character the cursor passes, as 
expected, but more times than not, it reads that, but it also reads the next 
character as well.  Say I typed the word cat, but actually wanted to say cash.  
I know I could backspace out the t then type s h, but let's say I left arrowed 
after typing the t in cat.  I might hear it say T, which is fine, but other 
times when I left arrow I'd hear it say t A.  So, OK, is my cursor to the left 
of the T?  Or is it now to the left of the A.  It's incredibly difficult to 
tell when it does this, and therefore, I often get terribly bad edits.

Is there a work around to this?

I'm on I O S 9.2, and no, this is not a beta of any type.

Chris.


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Question about multi-tasking on I O S

[Christopher Gilland]

Guys,

I've got a question.  I have recently acquired a very nice bluetooth case for 
my IPad Air 1st gen.  I'm therefore using the unit way more than before.

What I need to know is, let's assume that I want to check e-mail, or maybe 
browse the web while listening to music in the background.  I definitely know 
how to do this in general, and am very familiar with the app switcher, etc.  
What concerns me though is the fact that with music playing, I might not be 
able to effectively hear Voiceover speaking.

So, the ten million dollar question:  Is there a way that I can do like I do on 
the mac with ITunes, in that I could turn the volume down just of my music 
without effecting the volume of Voiceover?  I definitely know that there is an 
inlined volume control slider within the Music app, but I'm noticing that when 
I turn it up or down, it's effecting my Voiceover volume as well.

I know about the audio ducking feature, which is on by default, but I've turned 
that off, as I find the ducking to not be very natural.  In fact, frankly, I 
find it to be quite jarring.

Is ducking really my only option?

Thanks.

Chris.

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Re: Adding items not running to the dock?

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The practical thing is, you don't have to have a Finder Window opened with 
your applications, therefore it's less screen clutter.  Just pop yourself 
into the dock, open your app of choice, or whatever, and boom.  You're done, 
nothing in the way.


And, you're very close.  It's actually command+ctrl+shift+T.  Don't forget 
that shift key.


Chris.

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Subject: RE: Adding items not running to the dock?



Keith,

Control+Command+t is the shortcut (press when the focus is in Finder on 
the application you need).


Sidenote: I also haven't really figured out a place for the Doc in my user 
experience. Seems like not much key combinations to save: Command+Shift+a 
+ first letter navigation or VO+d + first letter navigation.


If anyone has a practical use (not just a habitual user pattern) for the 
Doc, please, share. Actually, the same holds true for the Launchpad.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:21
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Adding items not running to the dock?

Hi folks,
I'm curious, but how does somebody go about adding an application that 
might not currently be running to the dock?


The dock is a feature of OS Ten despite having used OS Ten for over two 
years now that I've never really used.
Usually, I've always gone in to the applications area and launched an 
application with command-O.
I'd like to start adding other applications other than Mail, Safari, etc 
to the Dock though for faster access.


VMware Fusion is an application that I tend to do serious Windows work in 
for quite a lot of things.
So, how might I go about adding Fusion to the dock for example for faster 
productivity?


Thanks,
Keith

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Re: Adding items not running to the dock?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK Keith,

Let's take your specific example.

1.  Navigate to your desktop with command+Tab until you reach your Finder.

2.  Press command+Shift+A to open your applications directory.

3.  type VM which hopefully will land you on VMWare Fusion.app.  If not then 
please navigate to it yourself, but don't hit command+O.


4.  Now, to add it to your dock, simply press command+Shift+T, if you're 
running anything Lion or earlier.  If you're on Mountain Lion or later all 
the way up to El Capitan, then the command will be command+ctrl+shift+T.  In 
other words, Mountain Lion or later, add the control key.  So, most likely, 
in your case, you'll hit command+control+Shift+T.  A good mnumonic for this 
to remember the letter T is, think, "To... the dock."


Now, to access your dock from anywhere at all, you have a few options.

1.  The most common way:  Press VO+D.  You probably know that already, but 
want to be sure I don't leave something out.


2.  You also can press ctrl+F3.  The only thing worth noting about this 
method is, remember that if your function keys are set to hardware right 
now, then you'll have to add the FN key to that, making the command actually 
be fn+Ctrl+F3.


3.  Another way is if you have trackpad commander enabled, at which point, 
you can two finger double tap at the bottom of the trackpad.


4.  There is a way with numpad commander.  I think it was numpad 3, but I 
can't test this over here effectively, as I've remapped a few of the keys on 
my numpad, that I believe, being one of them.  As my numpad 3 isn't doing 
anything.


The final tip, Keith, that I'd like to give you is for moving things on your 
dock.


If you navigate to your dock, then find the item you want to move, Voiceover 
won't say anything when you do this, but if you press ctrl+left arrow, 
you'll move the item one position to the left in the dock, and ctrl+right 
arrow will do the same, moving it one position to the right.  Again, 
Voiceover won't say anything when you do this, but after you do so, if you 
then vo+left and right arrow and check what you did, you'll see that it 
worked.


These commands obviously will change to ctrl+up arrow, and ctrl+down arrow 
if you have your docked positioned either on the left or the right, instead 
of the default which is on the bottom.


Also, don't forget that if you VO+M, go into the Apple Menu, then go to the 
dock sub menu, you can set the dock to auto hide unless the mouse either 
hovers into it's area, at which point, it'll pop up, or unless you use one 
of the above methods to access it.


If you want to remove an item from your dock, find it in the dock, then hit 
vo+Shift+M.  Go to the options sub menu, and in there, you'll find remove 
from dock.


I hope this helps.

Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Hinton" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:21 AM
Subject: Adding items not running to the dock?



Hi folks,
I'm curious, but how does somebody go about adding an application that
might not currently be running to the dock?

The dock is a feature of OS Ten despite having used OS Ten for over
two years now that I've never really used.
Usually, I've always gone in to the applications area and launched an
application with command-O.
I'd like to start adding other applications other than Mail, Safari,
etc to the Dock though for faster access.

VMware Fusion is an application that I tend to do serious Windows work
in for quite a lot of things.
So, how might I go about adding Fusion to the dock for example for
faster productivity?

Thanks,
Keith

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Re: issue from a friend

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, I presume that he was simply using things like shift+down arrow, and the 
like to select the text.  Correct?

I've personally hardly ever used it, but If memory serves correctly, I think he 
can also move to the beginning of what he wants selected, hit vo+return to 
start selecting, navigate to the end of his block selection, then hit vo+return 
again to stop selecting.  Then, have him hit vo+F6 to see what, if anything is 
selected.

Tell us if that method works for him.  Also you didn't tell us what browser 
he's using.  I'd presume probably Safari, but being that Chrome is totally 
accessible as well, I just want to make sure.

Chris.

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  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:32 AM
  Subject: issue from a friend


  Hello all,
  I recently was talking to a friend of mine who claims to be having issues 
when trying to copy and paste text from the Internet fromhis Mac onto a 
different location. I heard him try and mess with the command, but Voiceover 
kept repeating the first thing he was selecting all the time, and we made sure 
that things like quick nav were off and the like. I believe he's using a 
Macbook Pro 2013 but he is also using the latest version of Yosemeti. He's 
tried to restart the machine and VO, but to no avail. If any suggestions could 
be offered, that would greatly be appreciated.
  Blessings to oyou all.

  from Denise Barajas's Macintosh computer



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Re: mac and firefox?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Totally agree with E.T here.  Why in God's world! would they think it's not 
worth improving Voiceover support on the mac side of things?  To me, that 
seems totally absurd!


Chris.

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Subject: Re: mac and firefox?


   Mozilla is the developer of Firefox and Thunderbird, two of their 
projects. A shame if they do not think Apple is a major player worth 
developing for.


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On 1/13/2016 7:57 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

hey,
i spoke to the blind developer that works for firefox and he told me
around a year ago that firefox were not as interested in mac
accessibility because there Focus is predominately windows and smart 
phones.

I need hardly ad that i think this is a load of rubbish.

On 14 Jan 2016, at 11:18 AM, Devin Prater mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:

Yeah. Firefox is okay, but for such a great blind developer on the
team, it can't even display page-loading progress bars on Windows. So
don't expect the great Firefox to become accessible any time soon.
Yes, you can use Webvisum still, but with the added security risks
associated with enabling unsigned addons all across the board. Why
Firefox, of all companies, are taking this Apple-like lockdown is
beyond me, but ah well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:


I'm backing Chris entirely.
1.  Firefox on the Mac is still not accessible;  disreputable claims
to the contrary not withstanding.

2.  Webvisum is dead for both Mac and windows versions of Firefox.
 Not even windows users can use it now.  For captchas, Rumola:
www.skipinput.com 
is where you can get that.  So far, it seems to work okay: and,for
Mac users, it's the only solution out there:  all others having ggone
by the wayside quite some time ago.



!

Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


On Jan 13, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

1.  Webvisum is dead.  It's not even certified anymore for Firefox.
 I think they did that at the beginning of this month.  Don't even
get me started on that rant!

2.  It never worked on the IPhone as far as I know.

3.  Apparently Singing Sparrow clames to have gotten Firefox to work
successfully on the mac with Yosemite, but when asked for an audio
demo, as no one else at all is having that luck, he's not responded.

So, I'm still not sure.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Maria Chapman"
mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com>>
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:28 PM
Subject: mac and firefox?


HI.  Just downloaded the latest version of firefox.  Anyone have any
accessibility tips? or is it still not that accessible? Is anyone
able to use web Visum successfully? If so can someone explain how to
install it? I can get to the install page but when I click install
nothing happens.
ps:
does web Visum work on the iPhone?
thanks
Maria

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RE: Adding items not running to the dock?

[Anatoliy Popko]

Ups,

Right your are -- Shift included! Bag your pardon.


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On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:20
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Subject: Re: Adding items not running to the dock?

Actually, it's command+control+shift+t.

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> On Jan 14, 2016, at 1:50 AM, Anatoliy Popko  wrote:
> 
> Keith,
> 
> Control+Command+t is the shortcut (press when the focus is in Finder on the 
> application you need).
> 
> Sidenote: I also haven't really figured out a place for the Doc in my user 
> experience. Seems like not much key combinations to save: Command+Shift+a + 
> first letter navigation or VO+d + first letter navigation.
> 
> If anyone has a practical use (not just a habitual user pattern) for the Doc, 
> please, share. Actually, the same holds true for the Launchpad.
> 
> -- 
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> Anatoliy D. Popko
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:21
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: Adding items not running to the dock?
> 
> Hi folks,
> I'm curious, but how does somebody go about adding an application that might 
> not currently be running to the dock?
> 
> The dock is a feature of OS Ten despite having used OS Ten for over two years 
> now that I've never really used.
> Usually, I've always gone in to the applications area and launched an 
> application with command-O.
> I'd like to start adding other applications other than Mail, Safari, etc to 
> the Dock though for faster access.
> 
> VMware Fusion is an application that I tend to do serious Windows work in for 
> quite a lot of things.
> So, how might I go about adding Fusion to the dock for example for faster 
> productivity?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith
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Re: Adding items not running to the dock?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Actually, it's command+control+shift+t.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2016, at 1:50 AM, Anatoliy Popko  wrote:
> 
> Keith,
> 
> Control+Command+t is the shortcut (press when the focus is in Finder on the 
> application you need).
> 
> Sidenote: I also haven't really figured out a place for the Doc in my user 
> experience. Seems like not much key combinations to save: Command+Shift+a + 
> first letter navigation or VO+d + first letter navigation.
> 
> If anyone has a practical use (not just a habitual user pattern) for the Doc, 
> please, share. Actually, the same holds true for the Launchpad.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Anatoliy D. Popko
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:21
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: Adding items not running to the dock?
> 
> Hi folks,
> I'm curious, but how does somebody go about adding an application that might 
> not currently be running to the dock?
> 
> The dock is a feature of OS Ten despite having used OS Ten for over two years 
> now that I've never really used.
> Usually, I've always gone in to the applications area and launched an 
> application with command-O.
> I'd like to start adding other applications other than Mail, Safari, etc to 
> the Dock though for faster access.
> 
> VMware Fusion is an application that I tend to do serious Windows work in for 
> quite a lot of things.
> So, how might I go about adding Fusion to the dock for example for faster 
> productivity?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith
> 
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