Re: mac and firefox?

2016-01-15 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Hmmm, kind of gets you thinking really,
> And I'm both a windows and mac user.


I've used almost everything at this point (though some of them only a little):
OS X, Microsoft Windows (only version 7 so far), Linux, Chrome OS, iOS and
Android.

They all have bugs and limitations. In what ways you're affected by those
issues depends on what your needs are and which applications you use.

The more intensively you use a system, the more problems you're likely to
notice - at least in my experience.

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Re: mac and firefox?

2016-01-15 Thread E.T.
   Smiles. Perfect read coming right after fixing Windows on the laptop 
yet again so it will install updates. No wonder Microsoft is trying to 
force users to install Windows 10 for free, a sure sign of desperation.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/15/2016 1:08 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

I reckon it’s personal.  Read this:
https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/08/25/the-switch-back-to-windows-has-been-reverted-quite-some-time-ago-actually/

Poor creature.  Let that be a lesson to all potential Windows-using turncoats. 
:)

OS X is just the least worst.  You’ll just have to use Windows to get Mozilla 
stuff.



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RE: mac and firefox?

2016-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hmmm, kind of gets you thinking really,
And I'm both a windows and mac user.



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 10:08 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: mac and firefox?

I reckon it’s personal.  Read this:
https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/08/25/the-switch-back-to-windows-has-been-reverted-quite-some-time-ago-actually/

Poor creature.  Let that be a lesson to all potential Windows-using turncoats. 
:)

OS X is just the least worst.  You’ll just have to use Windows to get Mozilla 
stuff.

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Re: mac and firefox?

2016-01-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I reckon it’s personal.  Read this:
https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/08/25/the-switch-back-to-windows-has-been-reverted-quite-some-time-ago-actually/

Poor creature.  Let that be a lesson to all potential Windows-using turncoats. 
:)

OS X is just the least worst.  You’ll just have to use Windows to get Mozilla 
stuff.

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RE: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

2016-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
yeah had an article on news here in NZ a couple of days ago talking about a 
Chinese company that is producing a flying drone that carries the person,
all computer controlled,
crazy fly by wire I guess, not sure I'll be trusting it.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 2:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

Actually, a flying drone capable of carrying a person was debuted at CES this 
year.  There’s also at least 3 companies in the US right now researching flying 
cars and NASA has a sky highways program for consumer autonomous flight.

The shoes have been around for a while now and from what I hear they 
work quite well.

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Mark this is a great article, I do however have an issue with shoes that tell 
> you which way to walk, tha'ts just getting real crazy, next we'll have flying 
> cars!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Friday, 15 January 2016 4:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired
> 
> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,
> 
> As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both the 
> V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
> 
> The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired By Robert 
> Siciliano April 27, 2015 
> 
> In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having 
> vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll 
> get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen in 
> order to stay on the cutting edge.
> 
> The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help 
> some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it 
> easier for them to go about their daily lives.
> 
> From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your 
> iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are 
> helping the blind and visually impaired.
> 
> 1.
> Shoes that guide you in the right direction if you're walking somewhere new, 
> you no longer need to focus on the audible directions from your smartphone. 
> Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide instead. The insoles of the shoes 
> connect with the corresponding app (available for iOS, Android and Windows) 
> via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a vibration will alert you when you need to 
> turn. A buzz in your left shoe will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing 
> gets stronger as the turn nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means 
> to turn in that direction.
> If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.
> 
> While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this 
> feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people 
> around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
> "Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian Lawrence, 
> the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most tech today 
> that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio feedback, but if 
> you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense of hearing, so the 
> feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus on what's around 
> you."
> 
> The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected to 
> start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for navigating 
> hiking trails.
> 
> 2.
> Glasses that help the color blind see color Although they look like typical 
> sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind people see all different hues. 
> Color blindness results from spectral overlap, which is when the 
> photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in retinal cone cells) absorb 
> more light than they should. Usually, of the three types of cones in the 
> retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs blue light and a third absorbs 
> red light. If a green cone absorbs too much red light, for example, that 
> spectral overlap means that the person will have a difficult time 
> distinguishing those colors.
> 
> The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green 
> colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete, 
> making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact 
> technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and linear 
> programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's Notes are 
> that they help to separate the crossing signals between cones, creating more 
> 

RE: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
And besides, I have enough trouble with my current apple watch staying paired 
to my iPhone 6s+
It for some reason just keeps dropping the pair even though playing music or 
video still workis fine with the watch controlling the playback on the phone,

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 2:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
Importance: High

No guts, no glory.:)

I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s a 
pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  From 
what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to pair 
more than one watch to a phone.

On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Guys,

I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without really 
doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.

Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.

This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go online 
and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  I 
figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully know 
what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I fully 
understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official Watch 
OS2.1.

Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still think 
it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy am I 
glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the beta 
to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!

http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx

I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.

God bless.

Chris.

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RE: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

2016-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Ok I agree with all this except for the braille street signage,

 If your close enough to a street sign to read it with your hands then chances 
are you've been hit in the head / body with that street sign, or your looking 
crazy fondling everything to find it!

 Which could be a great idea for a funiest home videos show.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 12:58 AM
To: AppleVis List 
Subject: Re: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

Hello,

Tongue in cheek, I think this is more in line with Apple’s policy:

5 Structures that are missing in a society with a disability:

A fully accessible system whereby blind people can independently engage and 
vote in political elections. Visually impaired people define accessibility and 
good practice via frequent consultation.

A complete network of clear walk-ways that contain braille as well as print 
street names with accessible crossing points at all junctions that are 
frequently maintained.

Transit services such as buses, trains and aeroplane providers provide 
accessible information on all aspects of their service, carriages with suitable 
seating and space for guide dogs and other mobility aids, clear audible 
announcements of every stopping point.

Every individual with a visual impairment to be given at the point of request, 
magnification and lighting  equipment, braille lessons, braille equipment such 
as writers and refreshable displays and their ongoing maintenance. All emerging 
technologies that provide solutions to be included as with magnification and 
braille above.

Free at the point of request legal advocacy to enforce equality legislation 
such as the UK’s equality Act 2010. As with US’s 508 no authority should by 
products or services from websites or showrooms that fail to meet accessibility 
requirements.


> On 15 Jan 2016, at 03:09, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,
> 
> As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to 
> both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
> 
> The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired By Robert 
> Siciliano April 27, 2015
> 
> In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of 
> having vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go 
> and how you'll get there. You need to know the trends in your industry 
> before they happen in order to stay on the cutting edge.
> 
> The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to 
> help some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, 
> making it easier for them to go about their daily lives.
> 
> From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes 
> your iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations 
> that are helping the blind and visually impaired.
> 
> 1.
> Shoes that guide you in the right direction if you're walking 
> somewhere new, you no longer need to focus on the audible directions 
> from your smartphone. Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide 
> instead. The insoles of the shoes connect with the corresponding app 
> (available for iOS, Android and Windows) via bluetooth. Then, as you 
> walk, a vibration will alert you when you need to turn. A buzz in your 
> left shoe will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing gets stronger 
> as the turn nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means to turn in that 
> direction.
> If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.
> 
> While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path 
> (this feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 
> million people around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your 
> environment.
> "Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian 
> Lawrence, the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. 
> "Most tech today that's available for the visually impaired gives them 
> audio feedback, but if you're visually impaired, your primary sense is 
> your sense of hearing, so the feedback is more of a distraction from 
> letting you focus on what's around you."
> 
> The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are 
> expected to start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also 
> great for navigating hiking trails.
> 
> 2.
> Glasses that help the color blind see color Although they look like 
> typical sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind people see all 
> different hues. Color blindness results from spectral overlap, which 
> is when the photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in retinal 
> cone cells) absorb more light than they should. Usually, of the three 
> types of cones in the retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs 
> blue light and a third

Support for the Braille Pen Slim on the Mac?

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Davert
Does anyone know if the Braille Pen Slim is compatible with the Mac? I
know the pen itself is supposedly supported, but someone was asking me
about the keyboard itself that doesn't include the display.

Thanks for any help!
Scott

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Re: mac compatible accessible digital recorder

2016-01-15 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. I have a mint condition Olympus ls100 professional recorder for
sale which works very well with the mac. It comes up as an external
hard drive so you can simply drag and drop things, rename etc.

If you'd be interested in it, feel free to drop me an e mail at
came...@cameronstrife.com

It has a speech feature too which is a bit like a screen reader or
rockbox so the recorder is very user friendly for the blind. It has
tons of other features including built in stereo microphones, two
external mic/line jacks, mini microphone jack, phantom power, limiter,
etc. The controls are very tactile friendly as well... It can record
24 bit pcm/wav and the recording quality is fantastic for both speech
and music/ambient sounds etc. It has four gb of internal flash storage
and you can also use an sd card to add sixty four gb or more to that
so you'd never have to worry about running out of space!

It includes carrying case, shoulder strap, battery, USB cable,
charger, documentation, and original box.

Thanks,

Cameron.






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On 1/15/16, Christina C.  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly and
> mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things since I
> can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. I find
> using my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around with me all
> day long in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to record a
> quick memo and then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to do
> more tricks and tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record
> button. Plus I cannot record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just
> need to record a phone number or a couple of little things while on the
> phone.
>
> I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found
> to require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind
> compatible digital recorder may suit me best though.
>
> Thanks,
> Christina
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iOS 9.3 welcomes all-new 3D Touch shortcuts

2016-01-15 Thread Mary Otten
And for 3D touch lovers:

http://www.cultofmac.com/406446/ios-9-3-welcomes-all-new-3d-touch-shortcuts/


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The great features tvOS 9.2 will bring to Apple TV | Cult of Mac

2016-01-15 Thread Mary Otten
Bluetooth keyboard support is coming.
.

http://www.cultofmac.com/406342/the-great-features-tvos-9-2-will-bring-to-apple-tv/


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mac compatible accessible digital recorder

2016-01-15 Thread Christina C.
Hello,

Can I get some suggestions for digital recorders that are blind friendly and 
mac compatible with voice Over. I find that I need to record things since I 
can’t write them down. I want to be able to quickly record a note. I find using 
my iPhone inconvenient cuz I don’t tend to carry it around with me all day long 
in my pocket. I also find it takes so very many taps to record a quick memo and 
then voiceOver gets in the recording or I then have to do more tricks and 
tapping to turn speech off after focus is on the record button. Plus I cannot 
record notes to myself when on a phone call and I just need to record a phone 
number or a couple of little things while on the phone.

I’d appreciate any information even if it’s an iOS app that you have found to 
require minimal tapping and such. I do think a mac compatible and blind 
compatible digital recorder may suit me best though. 

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Good point, and very well taken.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Not only do you have to be a developer to get watchOS betas, you have to 
register your UD ID of the watch with the developer center, which can only be 
found if you connect the paired phone to Xcode. No UDID registered? Bricked  
watch.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Yikes!  I'm now even more! glad I didn't do it!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles 
like the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could 
cause catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:


Are you by chance set up as a developer? 


That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the 
public beta this morning, after going to:

  http://beta.apple.com/profile

  and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my 
phone, or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch 
of some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Miller
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to 
developers only.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  
wrote:


  No guts, no glory.:) 


  I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off 
either, that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out 
for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless 
you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys, 


I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things 
without really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch 
OS2 on to my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided 
to go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I 
fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that 
I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, 
I still think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say 
is, boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m 
not going to either!


http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I 
did so.


God bless.


Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yikes!  I'm now even more! glad I didn't do it!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles 
like the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could 
cause catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:


Are you by chance set up as a developer?


That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public 
beta this morning, after going to:

  http://beta.apple.com/profile

  and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my 
phone, or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch 
of some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Miller
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to 
developers only.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:


  No guts, no glory.:)


  I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off 
either, that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out 
for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless 
you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  
wrote:


Guys,


I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things 
without really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 
on to my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to 
go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I 
fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that 
I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I 
still think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed 
the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going 
to either!


http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did 
so.


God bless.


Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Miller
Not only do you have to be a developer to get watchOS betas, you have to 
register your UD ID of the watch with the developer center, which can only be 
found if you connect the paired phone to Xcode. No UDID registered? Bricked  
watch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Yikes!  I'm now even more! glad I didn't do it!
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel Miller
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
> 
> Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles 
> like the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could 
> cause catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you by chance set up as a developer?
>> 
>> That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public 
>>> beta this morning, after going to:
>>>  
>>> http://beta.apple.com/profile
>>>  
>>> and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
>>> or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of 
>>> some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Daniel Miller
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
 
 Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
 only.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> No guts, no glory.:)
> 
> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge 
> deal unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
>> around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>> 
>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>> 
>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to 
>> my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to 
>> go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public 
>> beta works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this 
>> task, that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I 
>> don’t like things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, 
>> and downgrade to the official Watch OS2.1.
>> 
>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
>> think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say 
>> is, boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
>> installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
>> this, I’m not going to either!
>> 
>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx
>> 
>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>> 
>> God bless.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I am, but that wouldn't matter as I didn't go through the dev methods to get 
that profile.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Granados 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Are you by chance set up as a developer?


  That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public 
beta this morning, after going to:

http://beta.apple.com/profile

and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of some 
sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to 
developers only.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:


No guts, no glory.:)


I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, 
this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  
From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to 
pair more than one watch to a phone.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  
wrote:


  Guys,


  I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things 
without really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


  Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


  This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on 
to my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  
I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully 
know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I 
fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


  Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I 
still think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed 
the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going 
to either!


  http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


  I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.


  God bless.


  Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Miller
Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles like 
the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could cause 
catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Are you by chance set up as a developer?
> 
> That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public beta 
>> this morning, after going to:
>>  
>> http://beta.apple.com/profile
>>  
>> and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
>> or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of 
>> some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
>>> 
>>> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
>>> only.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 No guts, no glory.:)
 
 I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
 that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
 though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
 out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
 unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
 
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
> around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
> 
> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
> 
> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to 
> my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to 
> go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public 
> beta works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this 
> task, that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t 
> like things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and 
> downgrade to the official Watch OS2.1.
> 
> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
> think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
> boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
> installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
> this, I’m not going to either!
> 
> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx
> 
> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
> 
> God bless.
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados
Are you by chance set up as a developer?

That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public beta 
> this morning, after going to:
>  
> http://beta.apple.com/profile 
>  
> and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
> or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of 
> some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Daniel Miller 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
>> 
>> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
>> only.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>>> No guts, no glory.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
>>> unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>> 
 On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland >>> > wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
 really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
 with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
 
 Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
 
 This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
 watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
 online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
 works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, 
 that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like 
 things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade 
 to the official Watch OS2.1.
 
 Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
 think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
 boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
 installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
 this, I’m not going to either!
 
 http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 
 
 I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
 
 God bless.
 
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public beta 
this morning, after going to:

http://beta.apple.com/profile

and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, or 
to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of some 
sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
only.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:


No guts, no glory.:)


I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, 
this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  
From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to 
pair more than one watch to a phone.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:


  Guys,


  I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


  Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


  This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to 
my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  
I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully 
know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I 
fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


  Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy 
am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the 
beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!


  http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


  I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.


  God bless.


  Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.  It's honestly probably not worth it, 
after I did my research.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Granados 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  No guts, no glory.:)


  I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s 
a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  From 
what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to pair 
more than one watch to a phone.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:


Guys,


I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go online 
and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  I 
figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully know 
what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I fully 
understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official Watch 
OS2.1.


Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy 
am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the 
beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!


http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.


God bless.


Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I’ll wait for a new watch, Generation 2 and let’s hope the watch becomes a bit 
more mature!
> On 15 Jan 2016, at 14:03, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> That’s a very good call.  Reading here it appears the IOS and OS X are the 
> public betas.  Ok well that illuminates me either way but still I wouldn’t do 
> it.  Doesn’t look like enough gain for the risk, I’ll wait for the real deal 
> version.
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
>> only.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>>> No guts, no glory.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
>>> unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>>  
 On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland >>> > wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
 really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
 with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
 
 Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
 
 This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
 watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
 online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
 works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, 
 that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like 
 things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade 
 to the official Watch OS2.1.
 
 Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
 think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
 boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
 installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
 this, I’m not going to either!
 
 http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 
 
 I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
 
 God bless.
 
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados
That’s a very good call.  Reading here it appears the IOS and OS X are the 
public betas.  Ok well that illuminates me either way but still I wouldn’t do 
it.  Doesn’t look like enough gain for the risk, I’ll wait for the real deal 
version.

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
> only.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> No guts, no glory.:)
>> 
>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
>> unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>  
>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
>>> with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>>> 
>>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>>> 
>>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
>>> watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
>>> online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
>>> works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, 
>>> that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like 
>>> things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade 
>>> to the official Watch OS2.1.
>>> 
>>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
>>> think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
>>> boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
>>> installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, 
>>> I’m not going to either!
>>> 
>>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 
>>> 
>>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers only.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> No guts, no glory.:)
> 
> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s 
> a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
> stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  
> From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want 
> to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>  
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
>> with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>> 
>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>> 
>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
>> watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
>> online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
>> works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that 
>> I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, 
>> that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the 
>> official Watch OS2.1.
>> 
>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still think 
>> it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy am I 
>> glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the 
>> beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going 
>> to either!
>> 
>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx
>> 
>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>> 
>> God bless.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados
No Ray, I’m pretty sure you’re one of the very few blind people with an 
unhealthy foot fetish that would even mention such a thing.

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 5:09 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, and, another point.  What if the blind person goes barefooted?  They 
> didn't consider that did they?  And, I'm sure I'm not the only blind person 
> who loves going barefooted.
> 
> 
> !
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 2:05 AM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Mark this is a great article, I do however have an issue with shoes that 
>> tell you which way to walk, tha'ts just getting real crazy, next we'll have 
>> flying cars!
>> 
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>> ] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
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>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired
>> 
>> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,
>> 
>> As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both 
>> the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
>> 
>> The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired By Robert 
>> Siciliano April 27, 2015 
>> 
>> In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having 
>> vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll 
>> get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen 
>> in order to stay on the cutting edge.
>> 
>> The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help 
>> some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it 
>> easier for them to go about their daily lives.
>> 
>> From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your 
>> iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are 
>> helping the blind and visually impaired.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Shoes that guide you in the right direction if you're walking somewhere new, 
>> you no longer need to focus on the audible directions from your smartphone. 
>> Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide instead. The insoles of the shoes 
>> connect with the corresponding app (available for iOS, Android and Windows) 
>> via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a vibration will alert you when you need 
>> to turn. A buzz in your left shoe will signal you to take a left -- the 
>> buzzing gets stronger as the turn nears -- and a vibration in your right 
>> shoe means to turn in that direction.
>> If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.
>> 
>> While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this 
>> feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people 
>> around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
>> "Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian 
>> Lawrence, the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most 
>> tech today that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio 
>> feedback, but if you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense 
>> of hearing, so the feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus 
>> on what's around you."
>> 
>> The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected 
>> to start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for 
>> navigating hiking trails.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Glasses that help the color blind see color Although they look like typical 
>> sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind people see all different hues. 
>> Color blindness results from spectral overlap, which is when the 
>> photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in retinal cone cells) absorb 
>> more light than they should. Usually, of the three types of cones in the 
>> retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs blue light and a third absorbs 
>> red light. If a green cone absorbs too much red light, for example, that 
>> spectral overlap means that the person will have a difficult time 
>> distinguishing those colors.
>> 
>> The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green 
>> colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete, 
>> making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact 
>> technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and 
>> linear programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's 
>> Notes are that they help to separate the crossing signals 

Re: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, a flying drone capable of carrying a person was debuted at CES this 
year.  There’s also at least 3 companies in the US right now researching flying 
cars and NASA has a sky highways program for consumer autonomous flight.

The shoes have been around for a while now and from what I hear they 
work quite well.

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Mark this is a great article, I do however have an issue with shoes that tell 
> you which way to walk, tha'ts just getting real crazy, next we'll have flying 
> cars!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Friday, 15 January 2016 4:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired
> 
> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,
> 
> As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both the 
> V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
> 
> The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired By Robert 
> Siciliano April 27, 2015 
> 
> In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having 
> vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll 
> get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen in 
> order to stay on the cutting edge.
> 
> The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help 
> some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it 
> easier for them to go about their daily lives.
> 
> From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your 
> iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are 
> helping the blind and visually impaired.
> 
> 1.
> Shoes that guide you in the right direction if you're walking somewhere new, 
> you no longer need to focus on the audible directions from your smartphone. 
> Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide instead. The insoles of the shoes 
> connect with the corresponding app (available for iOS, Android and Windows) 
> via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a vibration will alert you when you need to 
> turn. A buzz in your left shoe will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing 
> gets stronger as the turn nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means 
> to turn in that direction.
> If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.
> 
> While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this 
> feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people 
> around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
> "Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian Lawrence, 
> the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most tech today 
> that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio feedback, but if 
> you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense of hearing, so the 
> feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus on what's around 
> you."
> 
> The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected to 
> start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for navigating 
> hiking trails.
> 
> 2.
> Glasses that help the color blind see color Although they look like typical 
> sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind people see all different hues. 
> Color blindness results from spectral overlap, which is when the 
> photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in retinal cone cells) absorb 
> more light than they should. Usually, of the three types of cones in the 
> retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs blue light and a third absorbs 
> red light. If a green cone absorbs too much red light, for example, that 
> spectral overlap means that the person will have a difficult time 
> distinguishing those colors.
> 
> The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green 
> colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete, 
> making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact 
> technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and linear 
> programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's Notes are 
> that they help to separate the crossing signals between cones, creating more 
> color variation. This article talks more about it.
> 
> 3.
> A bionic eye
> You may have seen the video of a man who sees his wife for the first time in 
> years through the use of the Argus II, a so-called bionic eye. Dr. Robert 
> Greenberg, CEO of Second Sight, worked for 25 years to make that one recorded 
> moment possible.
> 
> Greenberg is the man behind the Argus II, which is designed to help patients 
> with retinal pigmentosa -- a degenerative disease that leads to blindness -- 
> to have some form of vi

Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados
No guts, no glory.:)

I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s a 
pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  From 
what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to pair 
more than one watch to a phone.
 
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
> with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
> 
> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
> 
> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
> watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
> online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
> works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that 
> I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, 
> that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the 
> official Watch OS2.1.
> 
> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still think 
> it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy am I 
> glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the beta 
> to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
> either!
> 
> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 
> 
> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
> 
> God bless.
> 
> Chris.
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Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Chris Gilland
Guys,

I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without really 
doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.

Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.

This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go online 
and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  I 
figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully know 
what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I fully 
understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official Watch 
OS2.1.

Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still think 
it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy am I 
glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the beta 
to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!

http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 

I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.

God bless.

Chris.

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Re: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

2016-01-15 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

Tongue in cheek, I think this is more in line with Apple’s policy:

5 Structures that are missing in a society with a disability:

A fully accessible system whereby blind people can independently engage and 
vote in political elections. Visually impaired people define accessibility and 
good practice via frequent consultation.

A complete network of clear walk-ways that contain braille as well as print 
street names with accessible crossing points at all junctions that are 
frequently maintained.

Transit services such as buses, trains and aeroplane providers provide 
accessible information on all aspects of their service, carriages with suitable 
seating and space for guide dogs and other mobility aids, clear audible 
announcements of every stopping point.

Every individual with a visual impairment to be given at the point of request, 
magnification and lighting  equipment, braille lessons, braille equipment such 
as writers and refreshable displays and their ongoing maintenance. All emerging 
technologies that provide solutions to be included as with magnification and 
braille above.

Free at the point of request legal advocacy to enforce equality legislation 
such as the UK’s equality Act 2010. As with US’s 508 no authority should by 
products or services from websites or showrooms that fail to meet accessibility 
requirements.


> On 15 Jan 2016, at 03:09, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,
> 
> As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both
> the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
> 
> The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired 
> By Robert Siciliano
> April 27, 2015 
> 
> In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having
> vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll
> get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen
> in order to stay on the cutting edge.
> 
> The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help
> some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it
> easier for them to go about their daily lives.
> 
> From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your
> iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are
> helping the blind and visually impaired.
> 
> 1.
> Shoes that guide you in the right direction
> if you're walking somewhere new, you no longer need to focus on the audible
> directions from your smartphone. Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide
> instead. The insoles of the shoes connect with the corresponding app
> (available for iOS, Android and Windows) via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a
> vibration will alert you when you need to turn. A buzz in your left shoe
> will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing gets stronger as the turn
> nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means to turn in that direction.
> If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.
> 
> While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this
> feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people
> around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
> "Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian
> Lawrence, the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most
> tech today that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio
> feedback, but if you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense
> of hearing, so the feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus
> on what's around you."
> 
> The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected
> to start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for
> navigating hiking trails.
> 
> 2.
> Glasses that help the color blind see color
> Although they look like typical sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind
> people see all different hues. Color blindness results from spectral
> overlap, which is when the photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in
> retinal cone cells) absorb more light than they should. Usually, of the
> three types of cones in the retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs
> blue light and a third absorbs red light. If a green cone absorbs too much
> red light, for example, that spectral overlap means that the person will
> have a difficult time distinguishing those colors.
> 
> The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green
> colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete,
> making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact
> technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and
> linear programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's
> Notes are that they help to separate the crossing signals between cones,
> crea

Re: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

2016-01-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Yeah, and, another point.  What if the blind person goes barefooted?  They 
didn't consider that did they?  And, I'm sure I'm not the only blind person who 
loves going barefooted.


!

Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 2:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Mark this is a great article, I do however have an issue with shoes that tell 
> you which way to walk, tha'ts just getting real crazy, next we'll have flying 
> cars!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Friday, 15 January 2016 4:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired
> 
> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,
> 
> As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both the 
> V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
> 
> The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired By Robert 
> Siciliano April 27, 2015 
> 
> In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having 
> vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll 
> get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen in 
> order to stay on the cutting edge.
> 
> The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help 
> some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it 
> easier for them to go about their daily lives.
> 
> From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your 
> iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are 
> helping the blind and visually impaired.
> 
> 1.
> Shoes that guide you in the right direction if you're walking somewhere new, 
> you no longer need to focus on the audible directions from your smartphone. 
> Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide instead. The insoles of the shoes 
> connect with the corresponding app (available for iOS, Android and Windows) 
> via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a vibration will alert you when you need to 
> turn. A buzz in your left shoe will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing 
> gets stronger as the turn nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means 
> to turn in that direction.
> If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.
> 
> While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this 
> feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people 
> around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
> "Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian Lawrence, 
> the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most tech today 
> that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio feedback, but if 
> you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense of hearing, so the 
> feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus on what's around 
> you."
> 
> The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected to 
> start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for navigating 
> hiking trails.
> 
> 2.
> Glasses that help the color blind see color Although they look like typical 
> sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind people see all different hues. 
> Color blindness results from spectral overlap, which is when the 
> photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in retinal cone cells) absorb 
> more light than they should. Usually, of the three types of cones in the 
> retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs blue light and a third absorbs 
> red light. If a green cone absorbs too much red light, for example, that 
> spectral overlap means that the person will have a difficult time 
> distinguishing those colors.
> 
> The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green 
> colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete, 
> making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact 
> technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and linear 
> programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's Notes are 
> that they help to separate the crossing signals between cones, creating more 
> color variation. This article talks more about it.
> 
> 3.
> A bionic eye
> You may have seen the video of a man who sees his wife for the first time in 
> years through the use of the Argus II, a so-called bionic eye. Dr. Robert 
> Greenberg, CEO of Second Sight, worked for 25 years to make that one recorded 
> moment possible.
> 
> Greenberg is the man behind the Argus II, which is designed to help patients 
> with retinal pig

Re: problems with shared folders between mac and linux sold

2016-01-15 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
i just mounted the VM installer, did not worry about extraction of the archives 
or the tons of other crap you find.
all i had to do was run these commands.
tar -xvf /media/$USER/"VMware Tools"/VMwareTools*.gz -C /tmp
and the last command.
sudo /tmp/vmware-tools-distrib/vmware-install.pl -d
this last command is very interesting because the d means default settings will 
be implemented, it will ask you to put yes or no but you don't need to type 
anything, it took me a wile to figure that out.

Michael
> On 15 Jan 2016, at 11:18 AM, mohammad suliman  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> this was also my experience when I installed VMware on windows with Ubuntu.
> the documentation is terrible, so spent several hours trying to configure 
> shared folders.
> 
> On 1/14/2016 5:55 AM, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> hey all,
>> just wanting to let the list know that i have at last got my folders between 
>> mac and ubuntu working on VM Fusion.
>> even the instructions from VM were wrong on this.
>> i had to remove open VM tools because it would not mount the HGFS directory 
>> and install the VM tools that came with Fusion.
>> i moved the installer files to a temp folder in linux and ran a command to 
>> install from there.
>> if anyone wants the commands i will send them your way.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
> 
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RE: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

2016-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Mark this is a great article, I do however have an issue with shoes that tell 
you which way to walk, tha'ts just getting real crazy, next we'll have flying 
cars!

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2016 4:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: 5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,

As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both the V 
iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.

The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.

Enjoy,

Mark

5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired By Robert Siciliano 
April 27, 2015 

In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having 
vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll 
get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen in 
order to stay on the cutting edge.

The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help some 
of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it easier for 
them to go about their daily lives.

>From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your 
>iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are 
>helping the blind and visually impaired.
  
1.
Shoes that guide you in the right direction if you're walking somewhere new, 
you no longer need to focus on the audible directions from your smartphone. Let 
Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide instead. The insoles of the shoes connect 
with the corresponding app (available for iOS, Android and Windows) via 
bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a vibration will alert you when you need to turn. 
A buzz in your left shoe will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing gets 
stronger as the turn nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means to turn 
in that direction.
If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.

While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this 
feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people around 
the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
"Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian Lawrence, 
the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most tech today 
that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio feedback, but if 
you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense of hearing, so the 
feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus on what's around you."

The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected to 
start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for navigating 
hiking trails.

2.
Glasses that help the color blind see color Although they look like typical 
sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind people see all different hues. 
Color blindness results from spectral overlap, which is when the photopigments 
(aka: light-absorbing molecules in retinal cone cells) absorb more light than 
they should. Usually, of the three types of cones in the retina, one absorbs 
green light, one absorbs blue light and a third absorbs red light. If a green 
cone absorbs too much red light, for example, that spectral overlap means that 
the person will have a difficult time distinguishing those colors.

The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green 
colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete, making 
it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact technological 
process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and linear programing 
before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's Notes are that they help 
to separate the crossing signals between cones, creating more color variation. 
This article talks more about it.
 
3.
A bionic eye
You may have seen the video of a man who sees his wife for the first time in 
years through the use of the Argus II, a so-called bionic eye. Dr. Robert 
Greenberg, CEO of Second Sight, worked for 25 years to make that one recorded 
moment possible.

Greenberg is the man behind the Argus II, which is designed to help patients 
with retinal pigmentosa -- a degenerative disease that leads to blindness -- to 
have some form of vision. The system received FDA approval in 2013; Greenberg 
received 300 issue patents of technology in the process.

First, in an outpatient procedure, patients are implanted with a small device 
that sits on their retinas. The passive device is only activated when the 
patients wear the corresponding glasses, which has a camera. Then, when the 
glasses are on, the signal from the camera gets turned into electrical impulses 
on a patient's eye. These impulses allow the patient sees a spot of light 
corresponding to what's in front of them.

Dr. Greenberg says