Re: Online Diagnostics

[E.T.]

   Issues with Bluetooth. Just did a clean install of El Capitan and 
still unreliable BT though it simply could be El Cap.


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On 4/9/2016 9:26 PM, syc20...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess so, why do you wish to run a diagnostic  Gnostic though? If you don't 
mind me asking

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On Apr 9, 2016, at 8:17 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   Right. I think MBP models after mine can do a local diagnostic.

   Guess I will need to find a pair of eyes for this.

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On 4/9/2016 6:04 PM, Seyoon Choi wrote:
I believe you can run hardware diagnostics either by holding down D or
something like that. This is not accessible though, which is odd but it
probably make since as this is not booting up; an operating system entirely.

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On Apr 9, 2016, at 6:24 PM, E.T. > wrote:

  According to information I found on Apple's site, I can only run
diagnostics on my MBP online. Has anyone had success doing this? If
so, how? Thanks.

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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Michelle's Home Emails]

Hi Sadam, 

Michelle Stevens here, 

I have had my Mac Air for close on 12 months. I love it. 'Because I am 
traveling to uni it is not too heavy to put in your briefcase or backpack. 

I am still learning about Mac and need to continuing my learning which at times 
have been challenging. 

Good luck in your venture 

Michelle Stevens. 

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> On 10 Apr 2016, at 2:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
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> Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
> family if possible.
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> Any suggestions?
> 
> I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.
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> Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?
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Re: Online Diagnostics

[syc20099]

I guess so, why do you wish to run a diagnostic  Gnostic though? If you don't 
mind me asking

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> On Apr 9, 2016, at 8:17 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Right. I think MBP models after mine can do a local diagnostic.
> 
>   Guess I will need to find a pair of eyes for this.
> 
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>> On 4/9/2016 6:04 PM, Seyoon Choi wrote:
>> I believe you can run hardware diagnostics either by holding down D or
>> something like that. This is not accessible though, which is odd but it
>> probably make since as this is not booting up; an operating system entirely.
>> 
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>>> On Apr 9, 2016, at 6:24 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  According to information I found on Apple's site, I can only run
>>> diagnostics on my MBP online. Has anyone had success doing this? If
>>> so, how? Thanks.
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Re: Reading PDF image files

[Kevin Chao]

   1. Go to drive.google.com
   2. Arrow to PDF that is scanned image
   3. A for actions Menu
   4. Arrow to Open With > ENTER on GOogle Docs
   5. Read text


On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 3:39 PM Anders Holmberg 
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> Hi!
> And can you be a bit more specific on how to do this?
> /A
>
> On 09 Apr 2016, at 18:55, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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> drive.google.com can take an image PDF and OCR it to just about any
> format.
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> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:58 AM Helga Schreiber <
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>> Hi Roland. This is Helga! How are you? YOU said that the app is call PdF
>> Sandwich? I'm just wondering! If so, how do I use that app in ordr to
>> convert image files? On my iPhone 6S I have PDF to word ap but
>> unfortunately it does not convert images! I look forward in hearing form yu
>> soon. Thanks and God bless!
>>
>>
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RE: IOS update

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah that's what I thought also, but as of yesterday there is now a IOS 9.3.2 
public beta.

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iOS 9.3.1 is the latest official build.

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Re: Online Diagnostics

[E.T.]

   Right. I think MBP models after mine can do a local diagnostic.

   Guess I will need to find a pair of eyes for this.

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On 4/9/2016 6:04 PM, Seyoon Choi wrote:

I believe you can run hardware diagnostics either by holding down D or
something like that. This is not accessible though, which is odd but it
probably make since as this is not booting up; an operating system entirely.

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On Apr 9, 2016, at 6:24 PM, E.T. > wrote:

  According to information I found on Apple's site, I can only run
diagnostics on my MBP online. Has anyone had success doing this? If
so, how? Thanks.

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Re: Online Diagnostics

[Seyoon Choi]

I believe you can run hardware diagnostics either by holding down D or 
something like that. This is not accessible though, which is odd but it 
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> On Apr 9, 2016, at 6:24 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   According to information I found on Apple's site, I can only run 
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> Thanks.
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Re: IOS update

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Simon. I'm currently beta testing iOS 9.3.2 but who knows when that'll come 
out. All I gotta say is stay tuned to your iOS device.

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> On Apr 9, 2016, at 2:42 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Can someone confirm for me what the official latest release for IOS 9.x is?
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Online Diagnostics

[E.T.]

   According to information I found on Apple's site, I can only run 
diagnostics on my MBP online. Has anyone had success doing this? If so, 
how? Thanks.


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Re: Reading PDF image files

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
And can you be a bit more specific on how to do this?
/A
> On 09 Apr 2016, at 18:55, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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> drive.google.com  can take an image PDF and OCR it 
> to just about any format.
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> Sandwich? I'm just wondering! If so, how do I use that app in ordr to convert 
> image files? On my iPhone 6S I have PDF to word ap but unfortunately it does 
> not convert images! I look forward in hearing form yu soon. Thanks and God 
> bless!
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
If you mean the new macbook i think it has less process power than the macbook 
air.
SO i would go with the air.
I have one myself and love it.
/A
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> Hi Sadam,
> 
> my advice would be to think about what your needs are. How much battery life 
> do you need? What do you plan to do on the computer? Personally, I switched 
> from a MacBook to a MacBook air about four years ago, and haven't regretted 
> it for a minute. I love the smaller size and the lighter weight, and it does 
> everything I need. However, you do get slightly less battery life, if that's 
> an issue. Another drawback to the MacBook air is that you can't replace or 
> upgrade individual components. So if something happens to it, your whole 
> computer is trashed. You cannot upgrade the memory. Or the processor. So if 
> you get a MacBook air, think about what your needs are now and what they are 
> likely to be in the future, and buy accordingly. Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
>> 
>> Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
>> family if possible.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.
>> 
>> Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?
>> 
>> Feedback is appreciated.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
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Re: Ibooks on Ipad mini and braille.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I can try that out.
SO thanks very very much for your help.
/A
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> Hi Anders, 
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> Michelle Stevens here, 
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> Not sure if my advise is any good for answering your question?  
> 
> On the IPhone I use Braille display with iBooks all the time.  
> 
> To change pages I use the right rocker button on my focus 14.  To go top of 
> page 
> I use space bar and dots 123 and arrow until I get to the text. If you are a 
> quick Braille reader I sometimes use second and third fingers swipe down 
> screen to read pages continuously without stoping.  It is easy to loose your 
> spot because VO is reading quickly. 
> 
> Good luck 
> 
> Michelle 
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>> 
>> Hi!
>> Is it possible to skip the pages chocer in Ibooks and read continuously with 
>> a braille display?
>> Its very frustrating to have to choke around and select next page and then 
>> go back and start reading again.
>> /A
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I’d wait until June for the new Macs to come out. If you need one right now, 
I’d go for the Macbook pro, or Macbook air over the regular Macbook. I’d choose 
the Macbook Pro if it were up to me.
> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
> 
> Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
> family if possible.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.
> 
> Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi  Sadam,

If I were you, and my choice was limited to just the latest MBA11 and the 
latest MacBook, then there would be no contest: MBA11.

Why?  Connectivity.  Like the first MacBook Air way back when it was 
introduced, the connectivity of the MacBook is horribly compromised: just one 
USB type C port.  Even if I weren’t sold on the MBA’s slightly smaller size and 
its superior specifications, that one port would kill me.  You’ve got to faff 
about with adaptors if you want peripherals of pretty much any variety that you 
already have, or if you also need power.  You can’t benefit from Thunderbolt, 
which means you’re not getting Ethernet at no cost either.  The machine is 
undoubtedly cute, of course, but in my opinion its real distinction is as a Mac 
for the iPad generation.  If that is not you, I’d seriously consider staying 
with the tried and true and get a MacBook Air.  It’ll be a good investment as 
long as Apple strive to keep OS X running lean on lower-end dual-core hardware. 
 It’s either that, or wait for the next-generation MacBook, when Apple will 
probably do a Google and put in a second, much-needed USB type C connector, 
just like Google Pixel.

Just my opinion, of course.  What you need is entirely dependent on your 
tolerances, needs and desires.

Oh, and BTW, you can downgrade to Yosemite on either, because that’s what both 
shipped with.  You don’t have to use El Cap if you don’t want to.

Cheers,
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Re: Apple Watch Specific Apps

[Scott]

I really like the stuff with screen pops like the  CNBC app and the AP news.  
Quartz news is kind of cool and has a lot of headlines that incorporate snarky 
headlines and cool symbols.  Buzz Feed is another.


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> I like the app Due for all manner of reminders. The native Reminders app 
> often doesn’t trigger on the Watch for me.
> 
> If you use Tiles, the Tile app is awesome on the Watch. I also have the Red 
> Cross emergency app which can be set up to give you alerts for weather and 
> other types of emergencies for you and people in other places. I have them 
> set for my family’s various locations and my workplace, all of which are in 
> different states or part of the state.
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>> Hi guys:
>> So, what are the apps everyone likes for the watch? I didn’t see any 
>> directory in Applevis site.
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Scott]

The current battery life across the Macbook Pro line is excellent.  I can go a 
full day with a 13 or 15 inch device running the high end configurations.  Note 
I’m using al SSD drives which are less power consuming.  Also El Capitan has 
some decent power saving features that seem to really make a difference and if 
you run virtual machines Fusion 8 does well on the battery side.

Depends on what you want to do over all.  If you just want internet access, web 
browsing, document creation and that sort of thing the Air will treat you well. 
 If you want many virtual machines or other more intensive applications then go 
with a larger Macbook pro.  Just depends on your use case.

Good luck.



> On Apr 9, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sadam,
> 
> I did switch in 2011, but not from a white Macbook.
> 
> As for battery life, I do get a full day out of my MBA.  I think the official 
> spec for this model is 12 hours, and that seems about right to me.  My 
> current MBA is a 2013.  I have never had a problem with running out of juice 
> during the day, and that was a problem on the 2011 model.  I don't know what 
> the current specs for battery life are on either the 2016 Macbook or MBA, 
> that's something you might want to research.
> 
> Good luck with your decision.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Donna,
>> 
>> I will be doing a lot of traveling between home and school so good battery 
>> life is a must have.
>> 
>> Did you switch from the old white 13-inch MacBook that Apple stopped 
>> producing in 2011?
>> 
>> Will go to the Apple Store later this morning and have a play with the 
>> different laptops.
>> 
>> Really appreciate your contribution on this topic.
>> 
>> Stay well,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> On 4/10/2016 2:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi Sadam,
>>> 
>>> my advice would be to think about what your needs are. How much battery 
>>> life do you need? What do you plan to do on the computer? Personally, I 
>>> switched from a MacBook to a MacBook air about four years ago, and haven't 
>>> regretted it for a minute. I love the smaller size and the lighter weight, 
>>> and it does everything I need. However, you do get slightly less battery 
>>> life, if that's an issue. Another drawback to the MacBook air is that you 
>>> can't replace or upgrade individual components. So if something happens to 
>>> it, your whole computer is trashed. You cannot upgrade the memory. Or the 
>>> processor. So if you get a MacBook air, think about what your needs are now 
>>> and what they are likely to be in the future, and buy accordingly. Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
 
 Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
 family if possible.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Alex Hall]

One thing to remember is that in June or September, Apple will likely be 
releasing updates to its Macbook lineup. I'd wait for those, to either get the 
newest or grab the next-newest on sale. This is particularly true of the Retina 
Macbook, which doesn't have wonderful power right now (Core M processor? 
Really?) and is likely due for at least a minor upgrade this year.
> On Apr 9, 2016, at 14:16, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sadam,
> 
> I did switch in 2011, but not from a white Macbook.
> 
> As for battery life, I do get a full day out of my MBA.  I think the official 
> spec for this model is 12 hours, and that seems about right to me.  My 
> current MBA is a 2013.  I have never had a problem with running out of juice 
> during the day, and that was a problem on the 2011 model.  I don't know what 
> the current specs for battery life are on either the 2016 Macbook or MBA, 
> that's something you might want to research.
> 
> Good luck with your decision.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Donna,
>> 
>> I will be doing a lot of traveling between home and school so good battery 
>> life is a must have.
>> 
>> Did you switch from the old white 13-inch MacBook that Apple stopped 
>> producing in 2011?
>> 
>> Will go to the Apple Store later this morning and have a play with the 
>> different laptops.
>> 
>> Really appreciate your contribution on this topic.
>> 
>> Stay well,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> On 4/10/2016 2:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi Sadam,
>>> 
>>> my advice would be to think about what your needs are. How much battery 
>>> life do you need? What do you plan to do on the computer? Personally, I 
>>> switched from a MacBook to a MacBook air about four years ago, and haven't 
>>> regretted it for a minute. I love the smaller size and the lighter weight, 
>>> and it does everything I need. However, you do get slightly less battery 
>>> life, if that's an issue. Another drawback to the MacBook air is that you 
>>> can't replace or upgrade individual components. So if something happens to 
>>> it, your whole computer is trashed. You cannot upgrade the memory. Or the 
>>> processor. So if you get a MacBook air, think about what your needs are now 
>>> and what they are likely to be in the future, and buy accordingly. Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
 
 Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
 family if possible.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.
 
 Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?
 
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Sadam,

I did switch in 2011, but not from a white Macbook.

As for battery life, I do get a full day out of my MBA.  I think the official 
spec for this model is 12 hours, and that seems about right to me.  My current 
MBA is a 2013.  I have never had a problem with running out of juice during the 
day, and that was a problem on the 2011 model.  I don't know what the current 
specs for battery life are on either the 2016 Macbook or MBA, that's something 
you might want to research.

Good luck with your decision.
Cheers,
Donna



 
> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Donna,
> 
> I will be doing a lot of traveling between home and school so good battery 
> life is a must have.
> 
> Did you switch from the old white 13-inch MacBook that Apple stopped 
> producing in 2011?
> 
> Will go to the Apple Store later this morning and have a play with the 
> different laptops.
> 
> Really appreciate your contribution on this topic.
> 
> Stay well,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 4/10/2016 2:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi Sadam,
>> 
>> my advice would be to think about what your needs are. How much battery life 
>> do you need? What do you plan to do on the computer? Personally, I switched 
>> from a MacBook to a MacBook air about four years ago, and haven't regretted 
>> it for a minute. I love the smaller size and the lighter weight, and it does 
>> everything I need. However, you do get slightly less battery life, if that's 
>> an issue. Another drawback to the MacBook air is that you can't replace or 
>> upgrade individual components. So if something happens to it, your whole 
>> computer is trashed. You cannot upgrade the memory. Or the processor. So if 
>> you get a MacBook air, think about what your needs are now and what they are 
>> likely to be in the future, and buy accordingly. Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
>>> 
>>> Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
>>> family if possible.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.
>>> 
>>> Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?
>>> 
>>> Feedback is appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: Reading PDF image files

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi Kevin and all! Kevin, thanks so much for the suggestion! Just to le tyou 
know guys, I discover that I can vconvert my file using conv...@robobraille.org 
guys! So conv...@robobraille.org works great with the iPhone and the Mac guys! 
And I will try drive.google.com soon! I be tit works the same as robobo braille 
right? Hope this helps someone guys! I look forward in hearing form you soon. 
Thanks and God bless! :) 

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> On Apr 9, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> drive.google.com can take an image PDF and OCR it to just about any format.
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:58 AM Helga Schreiber  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Roland. This is Helga! How are you? YOU said that the app is call PdF 
>> Sandwich? I'm just wondering! If so, how do I use that app in ordr to 
>> convert image files? On my iPhone 6S I have PDF to word ap but unfortunately 
>> it does not convert images! I look forward in hearing form yu soon. Thanks 
>> and God bless!
>> 
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber 
>> 
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>> Students.
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>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
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>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1
>> 
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>>> /
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi Sadam This is helga! How are you? I have a Macbook Air 11 inches laptop 
computer. It works great so far with me! I'm still lerning it hwo to use it! 
But El Capitan works great! Everything works great in regards of email, 
documents and so on. Safari I thik it works great although sometiemes i 
experience some issues. But I thik it depends what I'm doing wrong on it! but 
so far works great! I'm currently running OS10 10.11.4 on my Mac. But all this 
depends what yu exactly want to do with you rMac ok? If you want to do videso 
edditing and so on, I think I herd that it is better to hve a Macbook Pro. What 
od you guys think? Hope this helps some! I look forward in hearing form you 
soon. Thanks and God bless! 

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> On Apr 9, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
> 
> Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
> family if possible.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.
> 
> Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?
> 
> Feedback is appreciated.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Thanks Donna,

I will be doing a lot of traveling between home and school so good 
battery life is a must have.


Did you switch from the old white 13-inch MacBook that Apple stopped 
producing in 2011?


Will go to the Apple Store later this morning and have a play with the 
different laptops.


Really appreciate your contribution on this topic.

Stay well,

Sadam Ahmed

On 4/10/2016 2:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi Sadam,

my advice would be to think about what your needs are. How much battery life do 
you need? What do you plan to do on the computer? Personally, I switched from a 
MacBook to a MacBook air about four years ago, and haven't regretted it for a 
minute. I love the smaller size and the lighter weight, and it does everything 
I need. However, you do get slightly less battery life, if that's an issue. 
Another drawback to the MacBook air is that you can't replace or upgrade 
individual components. So if something happens to it, your whole computer is 
trashed. You cannot upgrade the memory. Or the processor. So if you get a 
MacBook air, think about what your needs are now and what they are likely to be 
in the future, and buy accordingly. Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Hi all,

I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.

Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac family 
if possible.

Any suggestions?

I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.

Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?

Feedback is appreciated.

Best wishes,

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: Reading PDF image files

[Kevin Chao]

drive.google.com can take an image PDF and OCR it to just about any format.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:58 AM Helga Schreiber 
wrote:

> Hi Roland. This is Helga! How are you? YOU said that the app is call PdF
> Sandwich? I'm just wondering! If so, how do I use that app in ordr to
> convert image files? On my iPhone 6S I have PDF to word ap but
> unfortunately it does not convert images! I look forward in hearing form yu
> soon. Thanks and God bless!
>
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as
> px
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1
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Re: MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Sadam,

my advice would be to think about what your needs are. How much battery life do 
you need? What do you plan to do on the computer? Personally, I switched from a 
MacBook to a MacBook air about four years ago, and haven't regretted it for a 
minute. I love the smaller size and the lighter weight, and it does everything 
I need. However, you do get slightly less battery life, if that's an issue. 
Another drawback to the MacBook air is that you can't replace or upgrade 
individual components. So if something happens to it, your whole computer is 
trashed. You cannot upgrade the memory. Or the processor. So if you get a 
MacBook air, think about what your needs are now and what they are likely to be 
in the future, and buy accordingly. Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.
> 
> Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
> family if possible.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.
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> Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?
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MacBook or MacBook Air?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,

I'm in the market for a thin yet portable laptop.

Despite the travesty that is El Capitan I would like to stay in the Mac 
family if possible.


Any suggestions?

I've been eyeing the sleek MacBook but the Airs also look good.

Have people tried the new keyboard on the MacBook?

Feedback is appreciated.

Best wishes,

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Re: Voiceover number of character repeats

[Anne Robertson]

Where did you find this setting? I can only find a repeat setting for 
punctuation in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Text.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 9 Apr 2016, at 16:37, -  wrote:
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> 
> Hello all,
> 
> When one has a number of characters in a row vo can be set to speak them or 
> not depending on their number.  For example, 3 "x's" in a row will be spoken 
> or not depending on the voiceover utility verbosity - text repeat setting.
> 
> I cann't get this to work.  Given 3 characters in a row, regardless of the 
> number chosen vo continues to speak them.
> 
> I have tried 2 3 and 4 as the repeat number to no avail.  What am I missing 
> and what needs to be done to make it work as desired?
> 
> Thanks.
> XB
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Re: Reading PDF image files

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi Roland. This is Helga! How are you? YOU said that the app is call PdF 
Sandwich? I'm just wondering! If so, how do I use that app in ordr to convert 
image files? On my iPhone 6S I have PDF to word ap but unfortunately it does 
not convert images! I look forward in hearing form yu soon. Thanks and God 
bless!

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adding tracks together

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

In the new Garage Band I am having trouble getting two tracks to play together. 
 Is there a setting I need to change?


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Microsoft accessibility.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

On a different list that I am on, I heard that Microsoft   is looking for 
feedback on the accessibility of Outlook for Macintosh.

Here is the information:
Hello friends & colleagues,

As you know, together we were able to improve the accessibility/usability of 
many products in the past 10-12 years. We collaborate successfully with many 
vendors for higher education including Blackboard, Desire2Learn, Moodle, 
Instructure, Elsevier, Ebsco Publishing, Elluminate, Qualtrics, Trumba, 
ServiceNow, and many more.

In 2013 a couple of colleagues of mine from UIUC and I tested & evaluated 
Microsoft Lync and Outlook. We shared the results with them and wanted to 
engage them in similar collaboration efforts as we have with all other vendors 
but we were unable to do it as their NDA terms and conditions were not 
acceptable to the UIUC legal team. As the result, we never had the chance to 
discuss our findings with the respective product development teams.

The good news is that they have used our findings about Outlook and Lync to 
improve their accessibility in their latest versions. I don't know at this time 
how much of our recommendations have been utilized in the latest version but I 
am glad that they have at least considered them.

Last week a couple of my UW-IT colleagues and I had a productive meeting with 
JJ Cadiz, the head of program management for Desktop Outlook and principal 
owner of accessibility for all the Outlook clients and a few colleagues of his 
team. We discussed how we could collaborate and contribute to the accessibility 
of Microsoft products.

To be honest with you, I have never seen Microsoft so motivated to work with 
the accessibility community toward improving the accessibility of their 
products, and I would like to use this opportunity to establish a constructive 
and productive collaboration with them.

We are working to establish two parallel groups that will be working with 
Microsoft on accessibility of their products. This is a rare opportunity for us 
to get involved and shape the accessibility of the products that we all have 
been using in hopes of changing the culture of accessibility at Microsoft.
1. Microsoft Collaboration Group
Microsoft Collaboration Group is a long-term project to extensively improve 
Microsoft Office family products. Some of the products in question are Outlook 
client, OWA, SharePoint, Office 365, etc.


* Purpose:

o   Establish a long-lasting, sleek, and energetic collaboration group with 
Microsoft.

o   Select one product at a time, identify accessibility/usability issues, and 
discuss the findings with the respective Microsoft development team.

* Commitment:

o   Have knowledge and experience in accessibility and accessible design.

o   Are interested in collaborating on accessibility of MS products.

o   Can dedicate minimum of 5 hours in a month.

This collaboration involves accessibility/usability testing and evaluation and 
reporting on the products that we choose. We will finalize the logistics once 
we have the 10 members.

2. Mac Outlook Project
Mac Outlook Project is a project focusing specifically on Mac Outlook. We want 
five folks use it as their everyday, primary mail client. We expect to have Mac 
Outlook insider builds available for a long time.

* Purpose:

o   Provide direct feedback to Mac Outlook Engineering Team about the 
accessibility and design of the product.

* Commitment:

o   Be an everyday user of Mac Outlook who's living on the insider builds.

o   Provide ten to fifteen minute feedback on rare (maybe one per month) design 
changes.

o   Available for the occasional (once every 3 months) 1-hour call.

Time commitment would be for as long as folks are willing to participate.

If you are interested to join either of these collaboration groups, please let 
me know.

Thanks,
Hadi



Hadi Rangin
IT Accessibility Specialist
Mary Gates Hall 064C
University of Washington
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Voiceover number of character repeats

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Hello all,

When one has a number of characters in a row vo can be set to speak them 
or not depending on their number.  For example, 3 "x's" in a row will be 
spoken or not depending on the voiceover utility verbosity - text repeat 
setting.


I cann't get this to work.  Given 3 characters in a row, regardless of 
the number chosen vo continues to speak them.


I have tried 2 3 and 4 as the repeat number to no avail.  What am I 
missing and what needs to be done to make it work as desired?


Thanks.
XB

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Re: Apple ID And Apple Watch

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

a! I got it now! Thanks! I used my icloud id. I appreciate it.
> On Apr 9, 2016, at 3:56 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> But you don’t need your Apple ID to reach the stores on your watch.  You want 
> the iCloud ID, because that’s the one that handles Handoff and whatnot.  It 
> would work (less well, but it would work) without the Apple ID, if you didn’t 
> need any Apple ID exclusives such as Apple Pay.
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> IIRC, anyway.
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Re: Apple ID And Apple Watch

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I did. Ended up signing in with icloud and I think it is fine. Haven’t found 
any apps to install yet.
> On Apr 8, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Did you use the watch app on your phone to connect to the watch and set it up 
> that way? It lets you do all the real work from the phones watch app
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
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> My phone is logged in to both. iCloud uses one, and app store and itunes 
> store use another.
>> On Apr 8, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> The watch uses the ID that the phone is logged in to so log the phone in to 
>> the ID you want to use.  I believe that’s your only option but perhaps 
>> someone else has a better idea.
>> 
>>> On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys:
>>> I am trying to put in my Apple ID in my new watch. The problem is my 
>>> mobleme id is the id that is automatically populating the apple watch 
>>> field. I do not use this id for apps, I use another one. How can I edit the 
>>> user apple id field?
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Re: For Alex Installing the Milonese loop band

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thanks! Got it! Love the band.
> On Apr 8, 2016, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I'm assuming it's similar to the one I got. I hope it is.
> 
> The band is a single piece, unlike the rubber Sport band the Watch comes 
> with. Once installed, the side with the metal opening through which the band 
> slides will be closer to the Friends button, while the side that can't move 
> is nearer the crown. Simply remove the old band, and slide the new one into 
> place in the orientation just discussed. The lugs (the bits that slide into 
> the slots on the actual Watch) must be very straight or they won't go in all 
> the way. Don't force it; with gentle pressure, they should slide in. If you 
> have to really push, you're likely not aligned right or have the band 
> backwards.
> 
> once installed, the band closes by the magnet on the loose end. Simple free 
> the magnet from the band and pull on the attached part of the band until the 
> whole thing is large enough for your hand to fit through. Settle the Watch in 
> place, pull the loose end until it's as tight as you want it, and let the 
> magnet grab the band. Done!
>> On Apr 8, 2016, at 15:44, Sarai Bucciarelli > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys, especially Alex, how do you install the milonese loop band we 
>> bought off Amazon? What is that little piece that slides up and down the 
>> band?
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Re: Apple Watch Specific Apps

[Jenine Stanley]

I like the app Due for all manner of reminders. The native Reminders app often 
doesn’t trigger on the Watch for me. 

If you use Tiles, the Tile app is awesome on the Watch. I also have the Red 
Cross emergency app which can be set up to give you alerts for weather and 
other types of emergencies for you and people in other places. I have them set 
for my family’s various locations and my workplace, all of which are in 
different states or part of the state.
Jenine Stanley
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> Hi guys:
> So, what are the apps everyone likes for the watch? I didn’t see any 
> directory in Applevis site.
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Re: Reading PDF image files

['Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Helga,

paid solutions for your problem would be Abbyy Fine Reader or Prizmo.

Abbyy used to be available as a 30 days trial, don’t know if this is still 
the case.

If you need a free solution, PDF Sandwich is the (terminal) app go install.

/Roland

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After latest Garageband update: Shifting pitch of regions?

['Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,

the latest update of Garageband is supposed to introduce some accessibility 
improvements.

However, I am having a couple of rather strange problems, may be someone 
can confirm them or even has a solution.

When working with an audio track I can enable the editor. By doing so I get 
a group of controls letting me chose between the whole track or region. 
Selecting the whole track gives me the option of transposing which is shown 
as percentage instead of steps as I would expect it.

However, choosing a region will only display the option of playing it back 
reversed.

I used to overcome this by moving some splitters but they appear to be gone 
now.

Instead, VO+F2+F2 shows two windows where one unnamed window just contains 
a horizontal zoom bar.

Am I missing something?

TIA, Roland

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Reading PDF image files

[Helga Schreiber]

   Hi guys! How are yu all? Is there a way to convert aan image PDF file to 
text format adn read it with the mac? I'm jsut wondering. My family member help 
me scan a story tht is seven pages long and it came out as an images each 
page,butI want to convert those images to text. Will Robo Braille work on the 
Mac guys? I heard it works for windows guys. Or do you have any other 
usggestion I can use in ordr to convert this PdFiles into text format guys! All 
of them are images! I really need to read this files in ordr to wite an essay 
this weekend. I look forward any suggestions or help you can give me!  Hope to 
hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless! :)

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
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INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

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Reading Image PDF files

[Helga Schreiber]

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1Hi guys! How are yu all? Is there a 
way to convert aan image PDF file to text format adn read it with the mac? I'm 
jsut wondering. My family member help me scan a story tht is seven pages long 
and it came out as an images each page,butI want to convert those images to 
text. Will Robo Braille work on the Mac guys? I heard it works for windows 
guys. Or do you have any other usggestion I can use in ordr to convert this 
PdFiles into text format guys! All of them are images! I really need to read 
this files in ordr to wite an essay this weekend. I look forward any 
suggestions or help you can give me!  Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and 
God bless! :) 

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Re: Apple ID And Apple Watch

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

But you don’t need your Apple ID to reach the stores on your watch.  You want 
the iCloud ID, because that’s the one that handles Handoff and whatnot.  It 
would work (less well, but it would work) without the Apple ID, if you didn’t 
need any Apple ID exclusives such as Apple Pay.

IIRC, anyway.

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Re: How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Nah, they’re hopeless for me as well.  It’s the chief reason I downgraded to 
Yosemite.  I notice that they are particularly problematic when web areas 
(“HTML content”) is involved; maybe that’s the triggering factor, but if so, 
then it’s particularly unfortunate for someone like me who uses activities to 
discriminate between normal use and web browsers.

Anyway, nice tip, Mark.  Glad it works more-or-less as intended for you.

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Re: IOS update

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iOS 9.3.1 is the latest official build.

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IOS update

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi List,

Can someone confirm for me what the official latest release for IOS 9.x is?

Cheers,


Simon F

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RE: Ibooks on Ipad mini and braille.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Michelle, et al, 

You can set iOS 9.x to automatically turn pages as you pan the Braille display. 
 To do this:

1.
>From the Settings menu, select General.

2.
Select Accessibility.

3.
Select VoiceOver.

4.
Select Braille.

5.
Set the "Turn Pages When Panning" option to "ON".

Now, as you pan, the page will turn, automatically.

I have not explored OS X to see if such an option exist.  For the most part, I 
only read iBooks, via Braille, in iOS.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Michelle's Home Emails
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ibooks on Ipad mini and braille.

Hi Anders, 

Michelle Stevens here, 

Not sure if my advise is any good for answering your question?  

On the IPhone I use Braille display with iBooks all the time.  

To change pages I use the right rocker button on my focus 14.  To go top of 
page I use space bar and dots 123 and arrow until I get to the text. If you are 
a quick Braille reader I sometimes use second and third fingers swipe down 
screen to read pages continuously without stoping.  It is easy to loose your 
spot because VO is reading quickly. 

Good luck 

Michelle 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Apr 2016, at 1:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Is it possible to skip the pages chocer in Ibooks and read continuously with 
> a braille display?
> Its very frustrating to have to choke around and select next page and then go 
> back and start reading again.
> /A
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RE: How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

[M. Taylor]

Sadam,

That, of course, is your opinion.

Conversely,  I find VoiceOver Activities absolutely stable in El Capitan, and 
rely on them daily..

Mark


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Never mind  that Activities are temperamental at best in El Capitan. 

Stay well, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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Hello All,

I just posted the following information in an existing thread, a few moments
ago.  I believe I posted this information to the list a couple of years ago,
also.  However, because I think it important, I am posting it again, in this
thread for those who may not be aware of the feature.

How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

NOTE:
This document assumes that you know how to create and configure VoiceOver
Activities.

Generally speaking, I prefer my default system VO Voice to be Alex.
However, I want any and all of my system notifications to use my beloved
Samantha voice.  

The short answer:

To set a VoiceOver Activity for the Mac OSX Notification Center, when
selecting a finder app in the Activity configuration process, simply locate
the Notification Center app and select it.  The notification app is located
in the Core Services Folder of the Library folder which is located on the
hard drive's system folder.

The long answer is that when you Click on the Find App option during the
Activity creation process, you will be placed in the Applications folder.
The Notification Center app is located in a different place.  You must find
the correct folder and then simply select the Notifications.app file.

A.
First, open the computer's hard drive.
Second, open the System folder.
Third, open the Library folder.
Fourth, open the CoreServices folder.
Fifth, select the Notification.app file.

or 

B.
Use the Command + Shift + G key-combo and type in 
/System/Library/CoreServices/ 
to get to the correct folder, super fast.

Good Luck and Enjoy.

Mark

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