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Re: Locked out

2016-06-07 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu

Yes, Tracey, that is basically what it means.

Essentially your login password is protecting your Keychain database.  That 
database holds sensitive passwords and keys and other things stored there, but 
not much else.  If you want real security for your data, use FileVault, which 
encrypts *everything*, and requires the key even before the system begins to 
boot from the file system.  Moreover, it means anybody with physical access to 
your machine can’t simply steal your data by either removing the disk 
containing it, or connecting the disk (or the computer, in Target Disk Mode) to 
some other computer.

Something I didn’t see mentioned but it’s quite important: when you reset your 
password using this method, you also throw away any data in your keychain, 
which will be reset.  So, make sure you know (or have otherwise backed up) any 
form data, keys, passwords, certificates, etc., that you have stored in there.  
My experience tells me that there are many surprises to be felt, for instance 
you lose your iCloud session keys, as well as many other application login 
session keys that are stored in the keychain for your convenience.  Perhaps 
this is one strong argument for allowing your login password to match your 
iCloud password; it means you can fall back on iCloud to perform your reset, 
and this is supported by modern OS X releases.

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Re: Moderators

2016-06-07 Thread Scott Granados

No it just felt like that thread had devolved in to a shmeckle measuring 
contest so I thought I’d chime in.

Sorry to revive the thread.;)


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>Sorry Scott, your what is bigger than what?  Totally confused.
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>Mine’s bigger!
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>On 6/4/16, 10:27 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
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>>Mark is only a co-mod.  That's why it's probably not listed.  Cara's 
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>>Subject: Re: Moderators
>>
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>>Of course, it would also help a lot more to read the footer if the 
>>moderator
>>address were actually listed there.  It isn’t, and that’s what was asked
>>for. :)
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>>Mark’s email address is mk...@ucla.edu .
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Re: Locked out

2016-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I was thinking the exact same thing.  As anyone could just boot the system and 
then hit command+R.  I mean, surely there has to be some way to prevent just 
anyone getting ahold of your mac and trying this little trick.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Traci Duncan 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: Locked out


  I hope this isn’t a silly question, but does this mean anyone could just 
overwrite the Mac’s log in password?  That doesn’t sound very secure.


  Thank you,
  Traci


On Jun 7, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,


You can usually use the Application Chooser to navigate these panels.  
VO-f1-f1, down to the app then right and down to the specific window.  
Occasionally, you may need to click the physical mouse to get focus into 
non-responding areas.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


On Jun 7, 2016, at 03:33, Simon Fogarty  wrote:


If the user is an admin on the machine then you can reset the password 
using the terminal from within the recovery console

I’ve done this a number of times but the problem I did have is when the 
reset password screan goes to the back of the open windows and then I required 
sighted assistance to bring it forward in to focus.

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Subject: Re: Locked out

Hello ET, and sounds like a complete reinstall is in order for his Mac I'm 
not for sure about another way to reset the password or username for that 
matter and less he gets added assistance once he's booted into terminal.
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  On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:56 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Have a friend new to the Macbook Pro (El Capitan) and is locked out. He 
cannot remember his login password. How can he recover from this? Thanks.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: need recommendation for Macbook pro case

2016-06-07 Thread Scott Granados

I’ll make a note of this one.  I have a pretty good bag on the class side now, 
I have a Waterfield which are hand made bags made from Italian leather.  They 
manufacture them in San Francisco and I’ve had one for years.  Very expensive 
but can take a beating and still look good.

I’m looking for more of a hard shell arrangement to harden the laptop itself.  
David seems to have a good suggestion. 

Thanks all for the responses


On 6/2/16, 6:59 PM, "jeff `greene"  wrote:

>Hi Scott, If you want something with a little class, Sena Cases makes a case 
>called the leather folio case. It covers the wrist rest, the bottom of the 
>macbook pro and the back of the screen. I think they’re around a hundred 
>dollars at senacases.com.
>
>I got one for my wife’s MBP and she loves it.
>Jeff
>
>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 6:07 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> My fiancé uses a clearskin hard plastic shell case she purchased at the 
>> Apple Store. She says it works great.
>> 
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 08:55, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, looking for a recommendation for a shell type case for the Macbook Pro 
>>> 13 inch 2015 model with Retina Display.  Something like a life proof would 
>>> be great although life proof does not make such a case unfortunately.  I 
>>> presently have a Waterfield leather bag which is great but I’d like 
>>> something to protect the metal case and screen just like I do my phone.  
>>> Googling yields a lot of options but if anyone has any first hand 
>>> experience and wouldn’t mind passing on some pointers I’d greatly 
>>> appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
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Re: Moderators

2016-06-07 Thread Scott Granados

Mine’s bigger!


On 6/4/16, 10:27 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
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>Mark is only a co-mod.  That's why it's probably not listed.  Cara's address 
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>Of course, it would also help a lot more to read the footer if the moderator 
>address were actually listed there.  It isn’t, and that’s what was asked 
>for. :)
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Re: Moderators

2016-06-07 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland


Sorry Scott, your what is bigger than what?  Totally confused.
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From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Moderators


Mine’s bigger!


On 6/4/16, 10:27 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


Mark is only a co-mod.  That's why it's probably not listed.  Cara's 
address

is there however.
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To: 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Moderators


Of course, it would also help a lot more to read the footer if the 
moderator

address were actually listed there.  It isn’t, and that’s what was asked
for. :)

Mark’s email address is mk...@ucla.edu .

HTH

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Re: I thought Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was suppose to be accessible

2016-06-07 Thread Scott Granados

Office is running well here on a brand new Mac running El Capitan 


On 6/4/16, 11:59 AM, "Cheree Heppe"  wrote:

>Cheree Heppe here:
>I purchased MS Office 2013, a purchase I continue to regret.
>It's my guess that totally blind testers are scarce in Microsoft cosmology, 
>while partially sighted testers who meet the legal definition of blindness and 
>make directors and managers comfortable around blindness, work for what looks 
>modern, without letting the function paradigm trouble the waters overly much.
>Universal accessibility for them becomes a floating, situational impediment 
>instead of a standard.
>Of course, such dodging and compromising significantly impacts consumer 
>productivity, giving blind users who pay full price for such programs as 
>Microsoft's offerings, three-fifths of the access.
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 18:26, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Glad it works for you. :)
>> Just FYI, if you go to the Help menu in any of the Office Apps and type 
>> “Accessibility” in the search box, you will get a page telling about all the 
>> Accessibility features in each Office app, and what works and what doesn’t 
>> currently work, if anything, with assistive technology, including VoiceOver, 
>> in this case.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My bad as for some reason it took awhile for th first excel doc to open. 
>>> Strange as it was an image for five minutes then the doc appeared. 
>>> Definitely weird, but seems to be working now.
 On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Curious as I thought I had read that Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was 
 accessible? I am running the latest build of El Cap, and I got everything 
 installed, and just tried opening a excel document and all VoiceOVer keeps 
 reading is image image image. Nothing will get me out of it not return, VO 
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Re: Locked out

2016-06-07 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

At a basic level, I guess it's possible.  If you use File Vault protection 
though, this reset becomes very secure.

Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 7, 2016, at 09:48, Traci Duncan  wrote:

I hope this isn’t a silly question, but does this mean anyone could just 
overwrite the Mac’s log in password?  That doesn’t sound very secure.

Thank you,
Traci

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can usually use the Application Chooser to navigate these panels.  
> VO-f1-f1, down to the app then right and down to the specific window.  
> Occasionally, you may need to click the physical mouse to get focus into 
> non-responding areas.
> 
> Later...
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> 
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 03:33, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> If the user is an admin on the machine then you can reset the password using 
> the terminal from within the recovery console
>  
> I’ve done this a number of times but the problem I did have is when the reset 
> password screan goes to the back of the open windows and then I required 
> sighted assistance to bring it forward in to focus.
>  
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> matter and less he gets added assistance once he's booted into terminal.
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Re: Locked out

2016-06-07 Thread Traci Duncan

I hope this isn’t a silly question, but does this mean anyone could just 
overwrite the Mac’s log in password?  That doesn’t sound very secure.

Thank you,
Traci

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can usually use the Application Chooser to navigate these panels.  
> VO-f1-f1, down to the app then right and down to the specific window.  
> Occasionally, you may need to click the physical mouse to get focus into 
> non-responding areas.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 03:33, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> If the user is an admin on the machine then you can reset the password using 
> the terminal from within the recovery console
>  
> I’ve done this a number of times but the problem I did have is when the reset 
> password screan goes to the back of the open windows and then I required 
> sighted assistance to bring it forward in to focus.
>  
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>  
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> matter and less he gets added assistance once he's booted into terminal.
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Re: Locked out

2016-06-07 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

You can usually use the Application Chooser to navigate these panels.  
VO-f1-f1, down to the app then right and down to the specific window.  
Occasionally, you may need to click the physical mouse to get focus into 
non-responding areas.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 7, 2016, at 03:33, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

If the user is an admin on the machine then you can reset the password using 
the terminal from within the recovery console
 
I’ve done this a number of times but the problem I did have is when the reset 
password screan goes to the back of the open windows and then I required 
sighted assistance to bring it forward in to focus.
 
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] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Locked out
 
Hello ET, and sounds like a complete reinstall is in order for his Mac I'm not 
for sure about another way to reset the password or username for that matter 
and less he gets added assistance once he's booted into terminal.
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cannot remember his login password. How can he recover from this? Thanks.

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Re: Locked out

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In recovery mode he can go to terminal and reset his password.

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   Have a friend new to the Macbook Pro (El Capitan) and is locked out.
He cannot remember his login password. How can he recover from this?
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RE: Locked out

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Fogarty

If the user is an admin on the machine then you can reset the password using 
the terminal from within the recovery console

I’ve done this a number of times but the problem I did have is when the reset 
password screan goes to the back of the open windows and then I required 
sighted assistance to bring it forward in to focus.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Subject: Re: Locked out

Hello ET, and sounds like a complete reinstall is in order for his Mac I'm not 
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and less he gets added assistance once he's booted into terminal.
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  Have a friend new to the Macbook Pro (El Capitan) and is locked out. He 
cannot remember his login password. How can he recover from this? Thanks.

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RE: Locked out

2016-06-07 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi ET,

 He could log in and reset his password,

 This will really require eyesite though unless someone else can tell me how to 
switch screans from the recovery mode.

 ET to do this,
Shut the machine down and restart in to the recovery console, so that's hold 
down the command key and the letter R,
 Once it starts up bring up the menus using option ctrl and m,
 Scrole across to the utilities menu and then down to the terminal,
 Open terminal and then I've gotta remember this,
It's either resetpassword,or  passwordreset,
 Enter after the command and you'll get a table of users in the reset password 
screan, select the user you require and then do a password reset your password 
only has to be 1 character long but best to choose a good password.

Also note that after the password change you will get prompted for a update of 
the keychaine I choose he to setup a new keychaine.
But that's just me

Hope that helps.


Simon f
  

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