RE: Apple updates OS X El Capitan with final non-security fixes

[Simon Fogarty]

So does this mean it's the last update to el capitan and that it's cosmetic 
with no security udpates?

 So I can only assume from this that mac os x Siera  will come out with no 
security issues  or am I hoping for to much.
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http://www.computerworld.com/article/3096924/mac-os-x/apple-updates-os-x-el-capitan-with-final-non-security-fixes.html#tk.rss_news

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RE: I Need a Little Help in Safari

[Simon Fogarty]

Nothing wrong with escaping reality!

 Look dancing purple monkeys, and I'm flying in my own head.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2016 10:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I Need a Little Help in Safari

If anyone has gone over the edge, its someone who is in Ohio right now.

And perhaps Mark escapes reality in his game playing. Could be worse! 
(smiles)

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On 7/18/2016 2:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> OK Simon, I understand.  Please note you spelt my name wrong.  I know 
> you were not giving Mark a hard time but I thought I may have missed 
> something.  I’m sure Mark will tell us in his own way if he’s going 
> over the edge, may be that will happen if he loses his game too many times!
>
> Kawal.
>> On 18 Jul 2016, at 09:05, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>>
>> Karl,
>>
>> As stated here, I was giving Mark a hard time about looking at this 
>> product.
>>
>> I didn’t think his question was crazy, although using flash is crazy 
>> that wasn’t Marks issue.
>>
>>
>> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@google
>> groups.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig Werner
>> *Sent:* Monday, 18 July 2016 9:18 AM
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: I Need a Little Help in Safari
>>
>> Kawal, the poster was just engaging in a little harmless friendly 
>> humor by pretending to worry that Mark was going to turn into an 
>> obsessive game player.
>>
>> Craig"
>>
>> On Sunday, July 17, 2016, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>>
>> Please can you tell me why you think Mark’s question was a little
>> crazy for you as I thought it a perfectly simple question.  Mark
>> is always particular and methodical in what he writes and could
>> follow what he said.  Perhaps I’m missing the point?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Kawal.
>>
>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 10:33, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>>
>> Mark, Till now I had respect for you. Now I'm just really
>> concerned!
>>
>> Tell me your not getting into this psycho craze! LOL>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2016 5:41 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Subject: I Need a Little Help in Safari
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Earlier today, I received an email in my Inbox with a link to
>> a cNet article that I wanted to read.
>>
>> When I click on the link, Safari opens and, in addition to the
>> text, a Flash video begins to play.  Try as I may, I cannot
>> seem to stop the video.  This is to say, I cannot find the
>> pause/stop button.
>>
>> I realize that my Safari skills are not as advanced as they
>> should be so I'm hoping one of you Safarians can inform me as
>> to how to stop the playback.
>>
>> I grew so frustrated with this endeavor that I finally gave up
>> and opened the article in Windows Explorer where I could read
>> the text without being bothered with the video playback, via
>> Jaws.
>>
>> Article:
>> Pokemon Go could crash and burn this way
>> 
>> http://enews.cnet.com/ct/36465781:WmNb4zYgN:m:1:643954770:AB022623DBB6DD9EE0
>> 0AF25C9314BD07:r:22694667381686839172315209628767
>>
>> All replies, greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah but Tim,

 You guys have bears?!

We've got Beer, lots and lots of Beer, but no Bears!


Oh and down here in the far south we don’t' tend to warry about warm clothing 
in winter, and in the summer we've  got both men and women who don't ware much 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2016 3:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

I suggest the Great White North.  No spiders of any consequence, only a few 
snow snakes in the mountains, although they're actually just stories we tell to 
freak out tourists, lots of empty space, mostly free medical care and lots of 
us tough guys who don't even bother wearing a jacket when it's below freezing.  
Then again, it's bloody hot in the summer, -45 C in the winter, not much of a 
Fall or Spring, wildfires that send us out of our city for months, lots of 
taxes and millions of mosquitos that could gang up and haul you away for 
dinner.  And, we tend to welcome anyone who'd like to brave our vast country.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 18, 2016, at 02:31, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Give it a go, but he lives in wellington, it's windy as a wind farm, 
But it is far enough away from the south island for us to not care, oh and 
you'd have to learn to speak English correctly, and be able to handle running 
naked in the snow.

Even better would be being able to play rugby in the snow, oh and if you don't 
know what rugby is, then your really in trouble, it is the biggest religion in 
NZ 
LOL.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 3:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

Aww come on, I’m going to need a Hillary / Trump escape plan!

Peter Jackson could hire me to make sure his render farms are networked 
properly.  I’d be happy to cut you in.:)  I was good enough for Dream Works so 
should be able to slide that.

> On Jul 16, 2016, at 4:02 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott, I'm not sure we want your kind down here in the southern hemisphere.
> 
> Specially around new Zealand we're a very clean country 
> 
> You might dirty the water!
> 
> Lol.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 
> 22
> 
> David, when that business grows large enough you need an IT department, you 
> let me know.  Would be nice to have a post hillary escape strategy.:)
> 
> haha
> 
> Good luck, sounds like interesting and rewarding work.
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 12:34 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> It is an expansion of my current business. I am now contracted to do some 
>> government work with those who are disabled. However, it lines me up for 
>> something which will be coming up in a couple years around technology and 
>> accessibility.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2016, at 00:59, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's exciting, David.  What is your new business?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 14, 2016, at 5:34 AM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 Well, I just signed a new contracting agreement, so I am about to start a 
 new business. If I am correct, I will preceed an upcoming trend and be 
 ready to capitalise on where things appear to be headed. Here we go with 
 the next business.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 14 Jul 2016, at 16:59, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> David, I like your history, not to point out a bad thing but I like your 
> comments on failed businesses.  I’m right there with you.
> I always hid my blindness when possible while doing business.  I had for 
> a while, especially during my first attempt, sited folks that I put out 
> front and I mainly dealt with people through telephones or email etc.  
> This worked for several years although there were reporters and other 
> people very interested in my business (an internet provider) at the time 
> who made it challenging to hide.  I would actually only allow these 
> people close if I was able to maintain control and final approval whether 
> something would be released and I had a marketing person for a while who 
> I made review everything to make sure no hints leaked out.  I remember 
> meeting a fellow business owner later in the history of that 

RE: Slack on iOS and Watch OS

[Juan Hernandez]

The iOS app is working pretty well.  I have been using it for a year, and have 
seen it improve.  The same goes for the Mac OS X version as well.  That works 
pretty good aswell, and has improved over the last year.

 

The web version of slack is always my goto when in windows, because it is very 
accessible via internet explorer/firefox/chrome.  The windows Slack so far is 
like 100% not accessible.  Hopefully that’ll change soon.

 

Best,

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slack on iOS and Watch OS

 

Slack has made VO/a11y improvements in latest iOS app and are responding to 
feedback in this channel. 
https://web-a11y.slack.com/archives/slack-a11y-feedback/p146876676102

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 4:25 PM Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The mobile apps are more accessible and Web is mostly inaccessible. 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:42 PM Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I head heard it was entirely inaccessible and that the vendor did not have 
plans to make SLAC usable by the blind. Are there any on-line guides for the 
blind on using slap with any environment?

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan



 

On 5 May 2016, at 20:14, Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I've used Slack on Watch and iOS?
Watch is allows reading mentions and messages with VoiceOver

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:48 AM Jenine Stanley mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Is anyone successfully using Slack on iOS or Watch OS? I’m particularly 
interested in Watch OS as I’ve seen the VO focus issues on iOS. Would love to 
understand the app more and propose it for some work projects.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com  



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Apple updates OS X El Capitan with final non-security fixes

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Re: Audio Game Hub

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. I like the Archery game but don’t really play the others because for some 
reason I’m not grasping them. I love the sound effects and this is quite 
refreshing as we don’t always experience good background sounds with most of 
the blind games. 
> On 18 Jul 2016, at 20:41, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Audio Game Hub.
> 
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> 
> On 7/18/2016 11:59 AM, Shannon Dyer wrote:
>> Audio Game Hub
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Re: I Need a Little Help in Safari

[E.T.]

   If anyone has gone over the edge, its someone who is in Ohio right now.

   And perhaps Mark escapes reality in his game playing. Could be 
worse! (smiles)


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On 7/18/2016 2:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

OK Simon, I understand.  Please note you spelt my name wrong.  I know
you were not giving Mark a hard time but I thought I may have missed
something.  I’m sure Mark will tell us in his own way if he’s going over
the edge, may be that will happen if he loses his game too many times!

Kawal.

On 18 Jul 2016, at 09:05, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Karl,

As stated here, I was giving Mark a hard time about looking at this
product.

I didn’t think his question was crazy, although using flash is crazy
that wasn’t Marks issue.


*From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 *On
Behalf Of *Craig Werner
*Sent:* Monday, 18 July 2016 9:18 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* Re: I Need a Little Help in Safari

Kawal, the poster was just engaging in a little harmless friendly
humor by pretending to worry that Mark was going to turn into an
obsessive game player.

Craig"

On Sunday, July 17, 2016, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Please can you tell me why you think Mark’s question was a little
crazy for you as I thought it a perfectly simple question.  Mark
is always particular and methodical in what he writes and could
follow what he said.  Perhaps I’m missing the point?

Thank you.

Kawal.

On 17 Jul 2016, at 10:33, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Mark, Till now I had respect for you. Now I'm just really
concerned!

Tell me your not getting into this psycho craze! LOL>

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: I Need a Little Help in Safari

Hello Everyone,

Earlier today, I received an email in my Inbox with a link to
a cNet article that I wanted to read.

When I click on the link, Safari opens and, in addition to the
text, a Flash video begins to play.  Try as I may, I cannot
seem to stop the video.  This is to say, I cannot find the
pause/stop button.

I realize that my Safari skills are not as advanced as they
should be so I'm hoping one of you Safarians can inform me as
to how to stop the playback.

I grew so frustrated with this endeavor that I finally gave up
and opened the article in Windows Explorer where I could read
the text without being bothered with the video playback, via
Jaws.

Article:
Pokemon Go could crash and burn this way

http://enews.cnet.com/ct/36465781:WmNb4zYgN:m:1:643954770:AB022623DBB6DD9EE0
0AF25C9314BD07:r:22694667381686839172315209628767

All replies, greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: I Need a Little Help in Safari

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

OK Simon, I understand.  Please note you spelt my name wrong.  I know you were 
not giving Mark a hard time but I thought I may have missed something.  I’m 
sure Mark will tell us in his own way if he’s going over the edge, may be that 
will happen if he loses his game too many times!

Kawal.
> On 18 Jul 2016, at 09:05, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Karl,
>  
> As stated here, I was giving Mark a hard time about looking at this product.
>  
> I didn’t think his question was crazy, although using flash is crazy that 
> wasn’t Marks issue.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Craig Werner
> Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 9:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I Need a Little Help in Safari
>  
> Kawal, the poster was just engaging in a little harmless friendly humor by 
> pretending to worry that Mark was going to turn into an obsessive game player.
>  
> Craig"
> 
> On Sunday, July 17, 2016, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
> Please can you tell me why you think Mark’s question was a little crazy for 
> you as I thought it a perfectly simple question.  Mark is always particular 
> and methodical in what he writes and could follow what he said.  Perhaps I’m 
> missing the point?
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Kawal.
> On 17 Jul 2016, at 10:33, Simon Fogarty < <>si...@blinky-net.com 
> > wrote:
>  
> Mark, Till now I had respect for you. Now I'm just really concerned!
> 
> Tell me your not getting into this psycho craze! LOL>
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:  <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [ 
> <>mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2016 5:41 AM
> To:  <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: I Need a Little Help in Safari
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Earlier today, I received an email in my Inbox with a link to a cNet article 
> that I wanted to read.  
> 
> When I click on the link, Safari opens and, in addition to the text, a Flash 
> video begins to play.  Try as I may, I cannot seem to stop the video.  This 
> is to say, I cannot find the pause/stop button.  
> 
> I realize that my Safari skills are not as advanced as they should be so I'm 
> hoping one of you Safarians can inform me as to how to stop the playback.  
> 
> I grew so frustrated with this endeavor that I finally gave up and opened the 
> article in Windows Explorer where I could read the text without being 
> bothered with the video playback, via Jaws.  
> 
> Article:
> Pokemon Go could crash and burn this way
> http://enews.cnet.com/ct/36465781:WmNb4zYgN:m:1:643954770:AB022623DBB6DD9EE0 
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> 0AF25C9314BD07:r:22694667381686839172315209628767
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Re: Audio Game Hub

[E.T.]

   Audio Game Hub.

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On 7/18/2016 11:59 AM, Shannon Dyer wrote:

Audio Game Hub


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Re: Audio Game Hub

[Shannon Dyer]

Is the app just called Hub?

Shannon
> On Jul 18, 2016, at 2:56 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I cannot recall if this app was posted on this list but, just in case it was
> not, I strongly suggest that you give it a try as I find it the best (iOS)
> game I've played in over 5 years.  It's a free app that should be in all of
> the app stores.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Audio Game Hub
> 
> By Grabbit
> 
> Description 
> 
> Audio Game Hub is a set of eight experimental arcade video games that use
> audio as their primary interface - making them accessible for both sighted
> and non-sighted users.
> 
> Dive into a rich world of sounds and experience the unique collection of
> mini audio games. Close your eyes and let your imagination flow.
> 
> Play in the casino, attend the medieval archery contest, escape the dark
> labyrinth, fight the finest samurai warriors and improve your memory at the
> animal farm. Play it on your smartphone, tablet or computer.
> 
> Audiogames:
> - Slot Machines (Casino)
> - Archery
> - Hunt
> - Samurai Tournament (up to 4 player)
> - Samuari Dojo (up to 4 player)
> - Labyrinth
> - Memory (Animal Farm)
> - Blocks (Bejeweld)
> 
> Download From:
> https://appsto.re/us/mtSRbb.i
> 
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Audio Game Hub

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I cannot recall if this app was posted on this list but, just in case it was
not, I strongly suggest that you give it a try as I find it the best (iOS)
game I've played in over 5 years.  It's a free app that should be in all of
the app stores.

Enjoy,

Mark

Audio Game Hub
 
By Grabbit

Description 

Audio Game Hub is a set of eight experimental arcade video games that use
audio as their primary interface - making them accessible for both sighted
and non-sighted users.

Dive into a rich world of sounds and experience the unique collection of
mini audio games. Close your eyes and let your imagination flow.

Play in the casino, attend the medieval archery contest, escape the dark
labyrinth, fight the finest samurai warriors and improve your memory at the
animal farm. Play it on your smartphone, tablet or computer.

Audiogames:
- Slot Machines (Casino)
- Archery
- Hunt
- Samurai Tournament (up to 4 player)
- Samuari Dojo (up to 4 player)
- Labyrinth
- Memory (Animal Farm)
- Blocks (Bejeweld)

Download From:
https://appsto.re/us/mtSRbb.i



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RE: I Need a Little Help in Safari

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

(Big Smile)

No, I haven't gone over the edge, just yet (smile); so don't give up on me.

However, I must admit that I am really enjoying the Audio Game Hub app, on my 
iPhone.  I'm going to post the info for the app in a separate thread but will 
paste the information below my signature in this reply, also.

Mark

Audio Game Hub
 
By Grabbit

Description 

Audio Game Hub is a set of eight experimental arcade video games that use audio 
as their primary interface – making them accessible for both sighted and 
non-sighted users.

Dive into a rich world of sounds and experience the unique collection of mini 
audio games. Close your eyes and let your imagination flow.

Play in the casino, attend the medieval archery contest, escape the dark 
labyrinth, fight the finest samurai warriors and improve your memory at the 
animal farm. Play it on your smartphone, tablet or computer.

Audiogames:
- Slot Machines (Casino)
- Archery
- Hunt
- Samurai Tournament (up to 4 player)
- Samuari Dojo (up to 4 player)
- Labyrinth
- Memory (Animal Farm)
- Blocks (Bejeweld)

Download From:
https://appsto.re/us/mtSRbb.i

-Original Message-From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:33 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Need a Little Help in Safari

Mark, Till now I had respect for you. Now I'm just really concerned!

 Tell me your not getting into this psycho craze! LOL>

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2016 5:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Need a Little Help in Safari

Hello Everyone,

Earlier today, I received an email in my Inbox with a link to a cNet article 
that I wanted to read.  

When I click on the link, Safari opens and, in addition to the text, a Flash 
video begins to play.  Try as I may, I cannot seem to stop the video.  This is 
to say, I cannot find the pause/stop button.  

I realize that my Safari skills are not as advanced as they should be so I'm 
hoping one of you Safarians can inform me as to how to stop the playback.  

I grew so frustrated with this endeavor that I finally gave up and opened the 
article in Windows Explorer where I could read the text without being bothered 
with the video playback, via Jaws.  

Article:
Pokemon Go could crash and burn this way
http://enews.cnet.com/ct/36465781:WmNb4zYgN:m:1:643954770:AB022623DBB6DD9EE0
0AF25C9314BD07:r:22694667381686839172315209628767

All replies, greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: Accepting a slack invitation

[Michael Babcock]

You need to create a new slack account for that team, and then you can add that 
team to the team switcher in IOS; haven’t worked with more then one team on OSX.
***
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> On Jul 18, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  
> wrote:
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> I’ve received an email inviting me to join the accessibility slack team 
> previously mentioned on this list.
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> When I click the link to except the team invitation I am taken to a page to 
> sign up for slack. There is not an option to sign into my existing account on 
> that page.
> 
> How else can I accept the invitation?
> 
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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Tim Kilburn]

I suggest the Great White North.  No spiders of any consequence, only a few 
snow snakes in the mountains, although they're actually just stories we tell to 
freak out tourists, lots of empty space, mostly free medical care and lots of 
us tough guys who don't even bother wearing a jacket when it's below freezing.  
Then again, it's bloody hot in the summer, -45 C in the winter, not much of a 
Fall or Spring, wildfires that send us out of our city for months, lots of 
taxes and millions of mosquitos that could gang up and haul you away for 
dinner.  And, we tend to welcome anyone who'd like to brave our vast country.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 18, 2016, at 02:31, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Give it a go, but he lives in wellington, it's windy as a wind farm, 
But it is far enough away from the south island for us to not care, oh and 
you'd have to learn to speak English correctly, and be able to handle running 
naked in the snow.

Even better would be being able to play rugby in the snow, oh and if you don't 
know what rugby is, then your really in trouble, it is the biggest religion in 
NZ 
LOL.

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Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 3:09 PM
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Aww come on, I’m going to need a Hillary / Trump escape plan!

Peter Jackson could hire me to make sure his render farms are networked 
properly.  I’d be happy to cut you in.:)  I was good enough for Dream Works so 
should be able to slide that.

> On Jul 16, 2016, at 4:02 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott, I'm not sure we want your kind down here in the southern hemisphere.
> 
> Specially around new Zealand we're a very clean country 
> 
> You might dirty the water!
> 
> Lol.
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 
> 22
> 
> David, when that business grows large enough you need an IT department, you 
> let me know.  Would be nice to have a post hillary escape strategy.:)
> 
> haha
> 
> Good luck, sounds like interesting and rewarding work.
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 12:34 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> It is an expansion of my current business. I am now contracted to do some 
>> government work with those who are disabled. However, it lines me up for 
>> something which will be coming up in a couple years around technology and 
>> accessibility.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2016, at 00:59, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's exciting, David.  What is your new business?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 14, 2016, at 5:34 AM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 Well, I just signed a new contracting agreement, so I am about to start a 
 new business. If I am correct, I will preceed an upcoming trend and be 
 ready to capitalise on where things appear to be headed. Here we go with 
 the next business.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 14 Jul 2016, at 16:59, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> David, I like your history, not to point out a bad thing but I like your 
> comments on failed businesses.  I’m right there with you.
> I always hid my blindness when possible while doing business.  I had for 
> a while, especially during my first attempt, sited folks that I put out 
> front and I mainly dealt with people through telephones or email etc.  
> This worked for several years although there were reporters and other 
> people very interested in my business (an internet provider) at the time 
> who made it challenging to hide.  I would actually only allow these 
> people close if I was able to maintain control and final approval whether 
> something would be released and I had a marketing person for a while who 
> I made review everything to make sure no hints leaked out.  I remember 
> meeting a fellow business owner later in the history of that company who 
> convinced me to completely drop that policy and had his marketing droid 
> try to convince me to use my image in marketing campaigns which I never 
> went that far but I definitely loosened things up.  I’m glad though that 
> person got through to me.
> Oh and I still have a PDP 11.:) Complete with the 8 dip switches and 
> submit button so you can enter in the first few bytes by hand to boot the 
> box and start loading from tape.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2016, at 12:58 AM, David Chit

Accepting a slack invitation

[Antonio Guimaraes]

I’ve received an email inviting me to join the accessibility slack team 
previously mentioned on this list.

When I click the link to except the team invitation I am taken to a page to 
sign up for slack. There is not an option to sign into my existing account on 
that page.

How else can I accept the invitation?

Antonio












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Re: HP's radical new computing design or Singularity here we come!

[E.T.]

   And someday humans can port their memories to this technology for 
infinite posterity before their physical bodies go poof. Is this called 
immortality?


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  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 7/17/2016 7:55 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

We’re in for very interesting times.  I was reading about some
applications today designed to run on “the machine”.  One was a linux
instance that has no distinction between memory or hard disk, everything
is just running in addressable memory.  Each instance is built with a
minimum of a petabyte of assigned storage.

Each module in HP’s machine consists of a fabric memory module, a
processing module and a fabric switch.  These modules all link together
in to one big addressable compute space.  Their idea is everything will
plug in to this eventually, security is implemented from the hardware up
instead of added on top like the machines do today.  There will be huge
blocks of free space for open source use, paid space for company data,
shared space for global access, and since it’s built in light instead of
electrons it’s just as fast no matter how large and complex the design
gets so there’s no theoretical maximum.  Like I said, Sky Net.:)

You don’t think of HP as being that cutting edge any more but this is a
huge deal.

It makes you wonder how much longer we’ll be dealing with laptops or
phones or tablets or anything recognizable.  Sabahattin may be right,
the Mac might be going away but to be replaced with something a whole
bunch more interesting.


On Jul 16, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Donna Goodin mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Wow, Scot, I probably only understand half of that, but it's crazy.
 Thanks for sharing.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 15, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Scott Granados mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:

Absolutely startling developments at HP that may impact us all.  It
dwarfs what Apple is doing in the cloud or even the idea of the
cloud.  It’s also probably one of your m ore frightening advertising
videos.  It’s tied in with Star Trek believe it or not but basically
they’re using the idea of the Singularity (AKA Ray Kurzweil and the
Singularity).

The idea is that instead of processors and nodes in the cloud like we
have now there will be a massive pile of addressable memory.  They
have built this system, memory is stored on fabric made of photons
meaning memory is stored on particles of light instead of electrons.
 This means a base increase of performance over conventional circuits
of 1000 times but it gets crazier than that.  Once data is stored in
photons you can start applying principles of quantum mechanics using
ideas like entanglement to instantly transfer data over any distance.
 Think of a radio wave taking 8 minutes to get from our Sun to our
planet in perfect conditions, now imagine modulating one out of two
photons in a pair and seeing it’s results over that same distance
instantly because information can exceed the speed of light.
Imagine HP releasing this to open source developers so unix instances
automatically boot with hooks in to this memory fabric, the internet
of things starts dumping data in to this system.  By 2020 there will
be over 30 billion connected devices, that level of connectivity will
crush the network as it stands today but ideas like this allow us to
progress past Moore’s law right down to the photon level rather than
primitive atoms.:)

Read a lot more here
http://www.labs.hpe.com/research/themachine/

I used to laugh at the idea of computing becoming self aware and
intelligent especially by 2029 on the near end or 2045 on the far
end.  IF possible I used to think it would take hundreds of years
especially considering where we started.  I’m not laughing any more.
 I’m wondering if 2029 isn’t to far out?  I’m not sure if I’m ready
for my computing infrastructure to be alive rather than a thing.
 Wait until the human machine interfaces become so good that you hard
wire your brain right to the network and we’ve got 9 billion brains
available for parallel processing.  I’m in!  For anyone who doubts
it, go outside, look at the billion people staring at their phones
wandering around the country side staring like zombies in their
phones finding Pokemon.  This enhanced reality thing, it’s just the
primitive start, the model A ford equivalent of it’s time, it’s about
to get really really interesting!


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Re: HP's radical new computing design or Singularity here we come!

[Scott Granados]

Sign me up!

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 10:49 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   And someday humans can port their memories to this technology for infinite 
> posterity before their physical bodies go poof. Is this called immortality?
> 
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> 
> On 7/17/2016 7:55 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> We’re in for very interesting times.  I was reading about some
>> applications today designed to run on “the machine”.  One was a linux
>> instance that has no distinction between memory or hard disk, everything
>> is just running in addressable memory.  Each instance is built with a
>> minimum of a petabyte of assigned storage.
>> 
>> Each module in HP’s machine consists of a fabric memory module, a
>> processing module and a fabric switch.  These modules all link together
>> in to one big addressable compute space.  Their idea is everything will
>> plug in to this eventually, security is implemented from the hardware up
>> instead of added on top like the machines do today.  There will be huge
>> blocks of free space for open source use, paid space for company data,
>> shared space for global access, and since it’s built in light instead of
>> electrons it’s just as fast no matter how large and complex the design
>> gets so there’s no theoretical maximum.  Like I said, Sky Net.:)
>> 
>> You don’t think of HP as being that cutting edge any more but this is a
>> huge deal.
>> 
>> It makes you wonder how much longer we’ll be dealing with laptops or
>> phones or tablets or anything recognizable.  Sabahattin may be right,
>> the Mac might be going away but to be replaced with something a whole
>> bunch more interesting.
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, Scot, I probably only understand half of that, but it's crazy.
>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 15, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Scott Granados >>> > wrote:
 
 Absolutely startling developments at HP that may impact us all.  It
 dwarfs what Apple is doing in the cloud or even the idea of the
 cloud.  It’s also probably one of your m ore frightening advertising
 videos.  It’s tied in with Star Trek believe it or not but basically
 they’re using the idea of the Singularity (AKA Ray Kurzweil and the
 Singularity).
 
 The idea is that instead of processors and nodes in the cloud like we
 have now there will be a massive pile of addressable memory.  They
 have built this system, memory is stored on fabric made of photons
 meaning memory is stored on particles of light instead of electrons.
 This means a base increase of performance over conventional circuits
 of 1000 times but it gets crazier than that.  Once data is stored in
 photons you can start applying principles of quantum mechanics using
 ideas like entanglement to instantly transfer data over any distance.
 Think of a radio wave taking 8 minutes to get from our Sun to our
 planet in perfect conditions, now imagine modulating one out of two
 photons in a pair and seeing it’s results over that same distance
 instantly because information can exceed the speed of light.
 Imagine HP releasing this to open source developers so unix instances
 automatically boot with hooks in to this memory fabric, the internet
 of things starts dumping data in to this system.  By 2020 there will
 be over 30 billion connected devices, that level of connectivity will
 crush the network as it stands today but ideas like this allow us to
 progress past Moore’s law right down to the photon level rather than
 primitive atoms.:)
 
 Read a lot more here
 http://www.labs.hpe.com/research/themachine/
 
 I used to laugh at the idea of computing becoming self aware and
 intelligent especially by 2029 on the near end or 2045 on the far
 end.  IF possible I used to think it would take hundreds of years
 especially considering where we started.  I’m not laughing any more.
 I’m wondering if 2029 isn’t to far out?  I’m not sure if I’m ready
 for my computing infrastructure to be alive rather than a thing.
 Wait until the human machine interfaces become so good that you hard
 wire your brain right to the network and we’ve got 9 billion brains
 available for parallel processing.  I’m in!  For anyone who doubts
 it, go outside, look at the billion people staring at their phones
 wandering around the country side staring like zombies in their
 phones finding Pokemon.  This enhanced reality thing, it’s just the
 primitive start, the model A ford equivalent of it’s time, it’s about
 to get really really interesting!
 
 
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Re: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions

[-]

While the trackpad will power down after a time of inactivity, the battery 
is still being used monitoring the resumption of activity.


Longest battery life comes with turning it off completely.  Hold the end 
button in for a time, as I recall there is an indication of total power 
off.


On Sun, 17 Jul 2016, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

If the MacMini was purchased with the Trackpad straight from Apple, it is 
usually already paired for you.  If not, upon startup, it should ask to pair.  
Yes, the button is a power button.  Usually, I hold it in for about two seconds 
to power it up.  There's no real need to power it down as it simply goes to 
sleep to conserve battery power when not in use.  Mine lasts for months without 
shutting it off.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 17, 2016, at 13:22, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

When I set up my newly arrived Mac Mini, how do I pair my first generation 
track pad with it, being that it doesn't have a way to connect it via cable to 
pair it?  Also, is the button on the opposite  side from where the batteries 
insert an on off button, or does it just lock the track pad?  If the latter, is 
there no way to turn it off so it won't continue to consume battery?  Thanks in 
advance for any information.

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Nicest with voiceover

[Scott Berry]

It’s not overly usable.  We need to let the company know this though.


> On Jul 18, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I was just wondering how accessible Nicecast is with voiceover.
> I am interested in the following:
> Using VLC along with my external microphone, possibly adding compression to 
> both voice and music, and the ability to talk over beds if possible.
> I have also discovered that there is not a way to edit the information on the 
> current broadcast details.
> Thanks for the answers.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
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Re: iOS 10 is a total mess

[Stacey Robinson]

Thanks Simon.
I’ve looked at it once and will probably do so again.
Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 1:28 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stacey,
> 
> No cost, and if you go to 
> Beta.apple.com 
> In your ios browser safari etc and then follow the links 
> 
> It's a public beta so it's open to anyone so long as  you have an itunes 
> account 
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson
> Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 1:13 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Re: iOS 10 is a total mess
> 
> How can I find out more about the public beta and can anyone download it?
> Does it cost anything?
> If this is offtopic please write me offlist.
> Peace,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:46 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't really go into any specifics, but I'll just say in my opinion, the 
>> iOS 10 beta even from the first day I got it with WWDC paid devs, was 
>> probably the most rock solid most stable beta I think that I've ever seen!
>> 
>> If anyone is saying iOS is a mess, they really need to look at things more 
>> objectively.
>> ---
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>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
>> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: iOS 10 is a total mess
>> 
>> 
>> Hi. I haven't read the whole article mainly because I can't open a reader 
>> window, but from what I've read, it seems like it's a total whine fest. I 
>> mean, has the guy used beta software before? It's called "beta" for a 
>> reason. There will be bugs, but who's to say that these bugs will remain in 
>> the next beta or even this fall? If you can't stand the bugs, don't install 
>> the beta. Plain and simple.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 11:33 AM, -  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-10-is-a-total-mess/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
>>> 
>>> XB
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Nicest with voiceover

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi all,
I was just wondering how accessible Nicecast is with voiceover.
I am interested in the following:
Using VLC along with my external microphone, possibly adding compression to 
both voice and music, and the ability to talk over beds if possible.
I have also discovered that there is not a way to edit the information on the 
current broadcast details.
Thanks for the answers.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
U.S. phone: 573-401-1018
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Re: Slack on iOS and Watch OS

[Antonio Guimaraes]

Hi,

I have slack installed on my phone, but I don’t know how to join the said 
channel. 

Antonio




> On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> Slack has made VO/a11y improvements in latest iOS app and are responding to 
> feedback in this channel. 
> https://web-a11y.slack.com/archives/slack-a11y-feedback/p146876676102 
> 
> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 4:25 PM Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> The mobile apps are more accessible and Web is mostly inaccessible. 
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:42 PM Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> I head heard it was entirely inaccessible and that the vendor did not have 
> plans to make SLAC usable by the blind. Are there any on-line guides for the 
> blind on using slap with any environment?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 May 2016, at 20:14, Kevin Chao > > wrote:
>> 
>> I've used Slack on Watch and iOS?
>> Watch is allows reading mentions and messages with VoiceOver
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:48 AM Jenine Stanley > > wrote:
>> Is anyone successfully using Slack on iOS or Watch OS? I’m particularly 
>> interested in Watch OS as I’ve seen the VO focus issues on iOS. Would love 
>> to understand the app more and propose it for some work projects.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
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RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Simon Fogarty]

Give it a go, but he lives in wellington, it's windy as a wind farm, 
But it is far enough away from the south island for us to not care, oh and 
you'd have to learn to speak English correctly, and be able to handle running 
naked in the snow.

 Even better would be being able to play rugby in the snow, oh and if you don't 
know what rugby is, then your really in trouble, it is the biggest religion in 
NZ 
 LOL.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 3:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

Aww come on, I’m going to need a Hillary / Trump escape plan!

Peter Jackson could hire me to make sure his render farms are networked 
properly.  I’d be happy to cut you in.:)  I was good enough for Dream Works so 
should be able to slide that.

> On Jul 16, 2016, at 4:02 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott, I'm not sure we want your kind down here in the southern hemisphere.
> 
> Specially around new Zealand we're a very clean country 
> 
> You might dirty the water!
> 
> Lol.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 
> 22
> 
> David, when that business grows large enough you need an IT department, you 
> let me know.  Would be nice to have a post hillary escape strategy.:)
> 
> haha
> 
> Good luck, sounds like interesting and rewarding work.
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 12:34 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> It is an expansion of my current business. I am now contracted to do some 
>> government work with those who are disabled. However, it lines me up for 
>> something which will be coming up in a couple years around technology and 
>> accessibility.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2016, at 00:59, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's exciting, David.  What is your new business?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 14, 2016, at 5:34 AM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 Well, I just signed a new contracting agreement, so I am about to start a 
 new business. If I am correct, I will preceed an upcoming trend and be 
 ready to capitalise on where things appear to be headed. Here we go with 
 the next business.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 14 Jul 2016, at 16:59, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> David, I like your history, not to point out a bad thing but I like your 
> comments on failed businesses.  I’m right there with you.
> I always hid my blindness when possible while doing business.  I had for 
> a while, especially during my first attempt, sited folks that I put out 
> front and I mainly dealt with people through telephones or email etc.  
> This worked for several years although there were reporters and other 
> people very interested in my business (an internet provider) at the time 
> who made it challenging to hide.  I would actually only allow these 
> people close if I was able to maintain control and final approval whether 
> something would be released and I had a marketing person for a while who 
> I made review everything to make sure no hints leaked out.  I remember 
> meeting a fellow business owner later in the history of that company who 
> convinced me to completely drop that policy and had his marketing droid 
> try to convince me to use my image in marketing campaigns which I never 
> went that far but I definitely loosened things up.  I’m glad though that 
> person got through to me.
> Oh and I still have a PDP 11.:) Complete with the 8 dip switches and 
> submit button so you can enter in the first few bytes by hand to boot the 
> box and start loading from tape.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2016, at 12:58 AM, David Chittenden  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I guess I will chime in here. I was congenitally (born) blind. My 
>> brother, who is two years older, is also blind.
>> 
>> We started school at a blindness school, and then attended a bording 
>> school for the blind. My parents decided to mainstream us when I entered 
>> 6th grade. The schools for the blind taught me certain skills such as 
>> braille, quite well. Fortunately, I was mainstreamed early enough to get 
>> a healthy dose of normal (sighted) culture.
>> 
>> I attended a private highschool (the best school in the state) which I 
>> was able to enter because I scored well enough on the entrance exam. 
>> Resource teache

RE: HP's radical new computing design or Singularity here we come!

[Simon Fogarty]

Tim,

Kind of scarey really,



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 2:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HP's radical new computing design or Singularity here we come!

We’re in for very interesting times.  I was reading about some applications 
today designed to run on “the machine”.  One was a linux instance that has no 
distinction between memory or hard disk, everything is just running in 
addressable memory.  Each instance is built with a minimum of a petabyte of 
assigned storage.

Each module in HP’s machine consists of a fabric memory module, a processing 
module and a fabric switch.  These modules all link together in to one big 
addressable compute space.  Their idea is everything will plug in to this 
eventually, security is implemented from the hardware up instead of added on 
top like the machines do today.  There will be huge blocks of free space for 
open source use, paid space for company data, shared space for global access, 
and since it’s built in light instead of electrons it’s just as fast no matter 
how large and complex the design gets so there’s no theoretical maximum.  Like 
I said, Sky Net.:)

You don’t think of HP as being that cutting edge any more but this is a huge 
deal.

It makes you wonder how much longer we’ll be dealing with laptops or phones or 
tablets or anything recognizable.  Sabahattin may be right, the Mac might be 
going away but to be replaced with something a whole bunch more interesting.

On Jul 16, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Wow, Scot, I probably only understand half of that, but it's crazy.  Thanks for 
sharing.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 15, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Scott Granados 
mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:

Absolutely startling developments at HP that may impact us all.  It dwarfs what 
Apple is doing in the cloud or even the idea of the cloud.  It’s also probably 
one of your m ore frightening advertising videos.  It’s tied in with Star Trek 
believe it or not but basically they’re using the idea of the Singularity (AKA 
Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity).

The idea is that instead of processors and nodes in the cloud like we have now 
there will be a massive pile of addressable memory.  They have built this 
system, memory is stored on fabric made of photons meaning memory is stored on 
particles of light instead of electrons.  This means a base increase of 
performance over conventional circuits of 1000 times but it gets crazier than 
that.  Once data is stored in photons you can start applying principles of 
quantum mechanics using ideas like entanglement to instantly transfer data over 
any distance.  Think of a radio wave taking 8 minutes to get from our Sun to 
our planet in perfect conditions, now imagine modulating one out of two photons 
in a pair and seeing it’s results over that same distance instantly because 
information can exceed the speed of light.
Imagine HP releasing this to open source developers so unix 
instances automatically boot with hooks in to this memory fabric, the internet 
of things starts dumping data in to this system.  By 2020 there will be over 30 
billion connected devices, that level of connectivity will crush the network as 
it stands today but ideas like this allow us to progress past Moore’s law right 
down to the photon level rather than primitive atoms.:)

Read a lot more here
http://www.labs.hpe.com/research/themachine/

I used to laugh at the idea of computing becoming self aware and intelligent 
especially by 2029 on the near end or 2045 on the far end.  IF possible I used 
to think it would take hundreds of years especially considering where we 
started.  I’m not laughing any more.  I’m wondering if 2029 isn’t to far out?  
I’m not sure if I’m ready for my computing infrastructure to be alive rather 
than a thing.  Wait until the human machine interfaces become so good that you 
hard wire your brain right to the network and we’ve got 9 billion brains 
available for parallel processing.  I’m in!  For anyone who doubts it, go 
outside, look at the billion people staring at their phones wandering around 
the country side staring like zombies in their phones finding Pokemon.  This 
enhanced reality thing, it’s just the primitive start, the model A ford 
equivalent of it’s time, it’s about to get really really interesting!


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RE: To Devon, (was This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Simon Fogarty]

You know something, I've only ever lived in NZ apart from a few holidays in 
austrailia   never really been anywhere else.

 But what I can say is 
We have no snakes except the ones we call polititians
We have a few spiders but nothing deadly just a couple that will make you sick 
for a while, although we do have one called the Avindale spider which was used 
in a movie called aracnophobia, looks mean but not a problem.
Redback spiders in central Otago but they sleep for the winter and do not much 
for summer.

We've got people with guns, but they are called farmers, or hunters or police  
sometimes a crim will get one and try something but they normally end up really 
unhappy or dead.
 This country is clean green and pretty bloody friendly to everyone except for 
aucklanders but that’s their fault no one likes them.

We're a great safe little world away from everyone.Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 
2:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Devon, (was This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech 
world at only 22

You know, it’s interesting, all kidding aside I can’t imagine myself being a 
citizen of another country.  It’s funny how we attach to the places we’re born. 
I’ve also had America / Apple pie / Baseball / tea parties and liberty bells 
drilled in to my head since I can remember so it’s hard for me to imagine.  I 
could definitely see living somewhere else and working in another part of the 
world but I’m not sure about citizen.  Maybe my ideas are to outdated.


> On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:27 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Bloody government.
> 
> Oh well yor here now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016 9:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Devon, (was This blind Apple engineer is transforming the 
> tech world at only 22
> 
> Yes, Simon, I could not immigrate here. I immigrated independently. Most 
> blind people who immigrate do so as the partner of a Kiwi. I did not just 
> want to come here to work. I wished to become a citizen. To do so, I needed 
> to match the immigration skills list and have enough points. Also, I needed 
> to prove I could live independently. It would have been been much easier had 
> I married a Kiwi.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16 Jul 2016, at 20:04, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> David, do you mean you couldn't move over here until you got a masters 
>> degree?
>> 
>> I can't believe that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016 1:02 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: To Devon, (was This blind Apple engineer is transforming the 
>> tech world at only 22
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> You always have time to go back and attend university.
>> 
>> I went to a university directly after high school and flunked out. I never 
>> reported that year to any other education institution. This way, I escaped 
>> the C- GPA drag.
>> 
>> I then attended community college for a few years part-time, only taking 
>> classes that interested me. I then went to massage school (a 9 month program 
>> which I graduated from when I was 27).
>> 
>> When I was 38, I decided I wanted to x-patriate myself from the US. I looked 
>> into it and discovered that I would need a masters degree because I am 
>> blind. So, I looked at my skills and realised I have excellent understanding 
>> of business. So, I located a fully accredited (highest accreditation in US 
>> is regional which is the only one accepted overseas), and applied to and 
>> entered an online university which met the criteria. A year later, I 
>> graduated at the top of my class with a bachelors. Thanks to the appropriate 
>> accreditation, and my grades, I easily entered a masters program when I was 
>> 40.
>> 
>> The truth is, university was much easier for me when I returned at 38. I had 
>> developed the drive and focus which I lacked when I was 18. Put another way, 
>> now is as good a time as any to go back to university.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 16 Jul 2016, at 12:04, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, I wish I was smart, I could never get the whole education school thing 
>>> down.  I tried college, dropped out and started a business, tried again, 
>>> lost focus, started another business and moved on.  I’ve always felt guilty 
>>> about it.  My poor mother wanted to see me graduate college with a degree 
>>> so badly.  Always felt like I let her down.
>>> 
>>> Oh well I went the long way but my positions more recently and career have 
>>> made up for a lot but I always wished I had the focu

RE: Looking for Slack feedback from voiceover users on OSX and IOS

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks Kevin,

I haven’t yet contacted them but I’m more interested in what they are doing on  
 the OSX or windows platforms as I have to use those for work which is more 
mportnt than IOS.

Cheers though for the update.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 9:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for Slack feedback from voiceover users on OSX and IOS

Slack has made VO/a11y improvements in latest iOS app and are responding to 
feedback in this channel. 
https://web-a11y.slack.com/archives/slack-a11y-feedback/p146876676102
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM michael babcock 
mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just sent a message to:
/feedback your feedback message here
In any of the chat edit boxes and this will open a new support ticket.
I just do find for “esc” and VO left from there, reads the messages backwards 
but works for me for now.
Thanks for the tip about setting the modifier key to padlock, can I set an 
activity to switch to this when I’m in slack or should I maybe just make it a 
normal practice of using caps lock?
If you press “option” first and hold it, then press “control” without letting 
option up, the VO keys work, but not the best solution.

On Jul 16, 2016, at 10:06 PM, Chris Meredith 
mailto:talli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

One thing that I’ve found helps with Slack is to set the VO modifiers to allow 
caps lock as an option.  My guess is that some sort of keyDown event gets fired 
whenever any key that would register does so (I.e. Option, particularly since 
it can be used to type extended characters), and pops focus into the input 
field.  Caps lock is handled entirely by the OS (illustrated nicely by how many 
hoops we have to jump through to pass that key to VMware Fusion), and is thus 
not intercepted by Slack.
Find is your friend.  Search for “new messages since” to find the date of the 
last message, then search backward for that date to read what went on in your 
absence.  One thing I can’t seem to do is close the pop-up windows such as, for 
instance, the search box, short of closing and reopening the app.  If Slack are 
engaging in public discourse with their blind users, I’d love to chime in, 
since Slack seems to be part of my complete breakfast set of 
tools I need at my employer.
On Jul 13, 2016, at 9:19 AM, michael babcock 
mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So hears how I’m using the desktop app:
#1, try not to tap “Option” (that jumps focus back to edit box). I know kinda 
hard when using voiceover…
#2, use find for the text “esc” and that will take you to the end of the 
conversation (channel) your in.
#3, use command+option+left or right to jump between conversations you’ve 
opened since that instance of the app has been running.
Let me know if I can help any more :( and I hope they make it more accessible. 
Love the concept of it, and am actively using it with a VA out of India, so 
would love to have it working.
VOIP quality IMO is fairly good.

On Jul 13, 2016, at 2:29 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Thanks Michael,

I’ll go check this out , it might be worthwhile.

If only the desktop apps were more accessible, I’ll probanly have to use my 
iPhone.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of michael babcock
Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2016 5:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for Slack feedback from voiceover users on OSX and IOS

Simon:
Thanks for your message.
Slack has created a #a11y organization, and they seem to be making things 
better. I’ll post one of the messages I got from the team a few hours ago:
"Hi Michael,
Thanks for coming back to me. Yes, there is an existing team that the 
accessibility community has created. This is a broad, public team on Slack with 
the goal of collaborating on accessibility solutions, technologies, etc. The 
current membership is already substantial and includes some of our engineers 
and folks from our accessibility team. Please feel free to share this with 
anyone who is interested.
Here's the link to request an invite: 
http://web-a11y.herokuapp.com.
“
And this was a follow-up to this message:
"Bel (Slack)
Jul 9, 9:32 PM PDT
Hey there Michael,
Thanks for getting in touch! We would love to hear all your suggestions on how 
we might improve the user experience for blind users.
Accessibility is something we are working very hard to improve and our 
dedicated accessibility team are currently working on more features for our 
vision-impaired users. Please do let us know what your initial thoughts are on 
your experience and I will get our team involved from this side too.
Thanks for taking the time to offer your help and feedback on this Michael, 
your insights are really valuable to o

RE: iOS 10 is a total mess

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes there is.

It's all available on the beta website for you to read 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 9:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 10 is a total mess

Is there a way to revert back to the current production release if one tried 
the beta and found it too buggy? I know if I stick it on my watch, for all 
intents and purposes, it's a beta device forever forward that would no longer 
be able to be legally sold to someone else if I should decide to get the watch 
2 or whatever they have up their sleaves next down the road. I wanted to dabble 
around with it to see if the Airplay bugs with VO will end up fixed where VO 
has an affinity to default to airplay if it is on at the time you tripple tap 
home. That causes other goofy issues with my stream programs flipping back to 
the phone internal speaker if I skip a song or flip channels at times, and then 
the not so good ducking bug to keep the device receiving airplay at low volume 
until you restart VO. I would almost use VO through Airplay if Apple could 
figure out reduction of the delay to a tolerable level. I'm not entirely sure 
why they need about a second or two of delay on a home wifi network that has 
little other activity going while I listen to stuff through it. We probably 
have a ways to go in technology evolution before we could have unnoticeable 
delay to speakers on a network.
- Original Message -
From: "christopher hallsworth" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: iOS 10 is a total mess


No we can’t, but the question looks ok.

The public beta is for anyone with an Apple ID. It costs nothing unlike the 
developer betas which are at no additional charge once you pay the $99 annual 
fee to gain access to them.
> On 17 Jul 2016, at 14:47, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> 
> wrote:
>
> We can't really discuss anything about the beta, may on this list will 
> tell you otherwise, but the terms say you can't, and I intend to abide 
> by them.
>
> That said, you can learn more about how to get the public beta from
>
> http://beta.apple.com
>
> if I'm not mistaking.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Stacey Robinson" 
> 
> To: "Macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: iOS 10 is a total mess
>
>
> How can I find out more about the public beta and can anyone download it?
> Does it cost anything?
> If this is offtopic please write me offlist.
> Peace,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:46 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I can't really go into any specifics, but I'll just say in my 
>> opinion, the iOS 10 beta even from the first day I got it with WWDC 
>> paid devs, was probably the most rock solid most stable beta I think 
>> that I've ever seen!
>>
>> If anyone is saying iOS is a mess, they really need to look at things 
>> more objectively.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
>> 
>> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: iOS 10 is a total mess
>>
>>
>> Hi. I haven't read the whole article mainly because I can't open a 
>> reader window, but from what I've read, it seems like it's a total 
>> whine fest. I mean, has the guy used beta software before? It's 
>> called "beta" for a reason. There will be bugs, but who's to say that 
>> these bugs will remain in the next beta or even this fall? If you 
>> can't stand the bugs, don't install the beta. Plain and simple.
>>
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 11:33 AM, -  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-10-is-a-total-mess/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
>>>
>>> XB
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RE: I Need a Little Help in Safari

[Simon Fogarty]

Karl,

As stated here, I was giving Mark a hard time about looking at this product.

I didn’t think his question was crazy, although using flash is crazy that 
wasn’t Marks issue.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Craig Werner
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 9:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I Need a Little Help in Safari

Kawal, the poster was just engaging in a little harmless friendly humor by 
pretending to worry that Mark was going to turn into an obsessive game player.

Craig"

On Sunday, July 17, 2016, Kawal Gucukoglu 
mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
Please can you tell me why you think Mark’s question was a little crazy for you 
as I thought it a perfectly simple question.  Mark is always particular and 
methodical in what he writes and could follow what he said.  Perhaps I’m 
missing the point?

Thank you.

Kawal.
On 17 Jul 2016, at 10:33, Simon Fogarty 
> 
wrote:

Mark, Till now I had respect for you. Now I'm just really concerned!

Tell me your not getting into this psycho craze! LOL>

-Original Message-
From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2016 5:41 AM
To: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Need a Little Help in Safari

Hello Everyone,

Earlier today, I received an email in my Inbox with a link to a cNet article 
that I wanted to read.

When I click on the link, Safari opens and, in addition to the text, a Flash 
video begins to play.  Try as I may, I cannot seem to stop the video.  This is 
to say, I cannot find the pause/stop button.

I realize that my Safari skills are not as advanced as they should be so I'm 
hoping one of you Safarians can inform me as to how to stop the playback.

I grew so frustrated with this endeavor that I finally gave up and opened the 
article in Windows Explorer where I could read the text without being bothered 
with the video playback, via Jaws.

Article:
Pokemon Go could crash and burn this way
http://enews.cnet.com/ct/36465781:WmNb4zYgN:m:1:643954770:AB022623DBB6DD9EE0
0AF25C9314BD07:r:22694667381686839172315209628767

All replies, greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Arnold,

Yeah the batteriescan last for months,
I think I only changed mine twice but I don’t use it all the time.

As for the touchpad 2 from apple, I’ve only charged it once since it came on 
the market and I purchased it.

  So that’s over 6 months.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 8:36 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions

It will be interesting to see which one of the following my track pad ends up 
being.  You say that a set of batteries lasts for months.  I also have read 
that probably the most negative thing about the first generation track pad was, 
they can go through a set in less than a week.  I hope mine is the former.

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message -
From: Tim Kilburn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions

Hi,

If the MacMini was purchased with the Trackpad straight from Apple, it is 
usually already paired for you.  If not, upon startup, it should ask to pair.  
Yes, the button is a power button.  Usually, I hold it in for about two seconds 
to power it up.  There's no real need to power it down as it simply goes to 
sleep to conserve battery power when not in use.  Mine lasts for months without 
shutting it off.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 17, 2016, at 13:22, Arnold Schmidt 
mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> wrote:

When I set up my newly arrived Mac Mini, how do I pair my first generation 
track pad with it, being that it doesn't have a way to connect it via cable to 
pair it?  Also, is the button on the opposite  side from where the batteries 
insert an on off button, or does it just lock the track pad?  If the latter, is 
there no way to turn it off so it won't continue to consume battery?  Thanks in 
advance for any information.

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi,

When you start up and setup or configure your new mac when it start up it 
should prompt you for any Bluetooth devices,
This will allow you to pair your track pad.

  Yes the button on the right hand end of the battery compartment is the on / 
off button, hold it for a second should turn it on

If the Bluetooth keyboard / mouse setup after start up doesn’t work then  use 
your keyboard to go in to system preferences and under Bluetooth  pair the 
trackpad there, it’s not diffifuclt.

Good luck.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 7:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two First Generation Track Pad Questions

When I set up my newly arrived Mac Mini, how do I pair my first generation 
track pad with it, being that it doesn't have a way to connect it via cable to 
pair it?  Also, is the button on the opposite  side from where the batteries 
insert an on off button, or does it just lock the track pad?  If the latter, is 
there no way to turn it off so it won't continue to consume battery?  Thanks in 
advance for any information.

Arnold Schmidt
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