RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

I think that will happen long time after I've gone,
 And besides, we only need worry about those things if she's a ginger!


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2016 1:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

I knew Siri was my kinda girl!

Seriously though, what if a computer becomes self aware and develops religion.  
Programs will ask each other if they believe in users.



> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
> for humans and she has her circuits instead.
> /A
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
>> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Which one?

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Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2016 7:19 AM
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Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

Siri is smart to avoid religion at all costs or it might fry her circuits.

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On 8/6/2016 12:12 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi!
> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
> for humans and she has her circuits instead.
> /A
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
>> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>>
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>>
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>>
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>>
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>>
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>>
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
>>>
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

And not to mention, I’ve had siri say the answr to the meaning of life is 42!

Or chocolate,

She’s got an answr for everything except for the lotto numbers for next week.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2016 5:35 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

Well Scott,

I’ve asked Siri the same question, and she or he or it says, something 
different each time.  At first she refused to answer but I was persistent.  
First she said that one should live in harmony and peace, walk together and 
read a good book, keep healthy and lose fat!  Next she gave the same answer as 
you got.  I then asked Siri if she was alive and she said that she had been 
advised not to discuss her existential status.   So what do you think now?
On 6 Aug 2016, at 09:46, Scott Granados 
> wrote:

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Quick Nav turned off.  I always make sure it’s off before doing something.  In 
fact after this update, Voice Over was acting strangely at times and I had to 
turn Voice Over off on occasion.

So I tried creating another folder and I can tell you, when I create on and try 
and write the folder name, Voice Over is not even focusing on that folder i.e. 
no edit text and I have my voice Over cursor following the mouse pointer.  
That’s the first thing I do when I set up my Mac from scratch.  I have checked 
everything in voice over utilities.  Anyone?

Kawal.


> On 6 Aug 2016, at 22:44, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Ok. QN will do weird things like this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/6/2016 2:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> I am not sure. As I am not in front of my computer. Will let you all know 
>> tomorrow.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 10:31 pm, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>>  Is Quick Nav enabled by any chance?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 8/6/2016 12:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use
 Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried
 creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would
 not let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I
 wanted to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home
 Directory, locate the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete
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Re: Help with Abby fine reader

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copy the abby fine reader to your application folder to install it.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

I knew Siri was my kinda girl!

Seriously though, what if a computer becomes self aware and develops religion.  
Programs will ask each other if they believe in users.



> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
> for humans and she has her circuits instead.
> /A
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
>> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
>> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
>>> 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

She says she’s blushing as well.  She’s an accessible girl.

;)
Hahaha


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> 
> 
> But how can you know she's blushing unless you can see your phone/mac screen 
> turn red?
> 
> 
> Sharon H.
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent 
>> from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

Or something like close the pod bay doors Hal.

Scott, you’re acting strangely.  I can’t do it Scott

Arthur Clark was only a few years off.

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 5:33 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hey scott,
> 
> I understand where your coming from with your sky net concerns but if your 
> going to be afraid  leave it until siri starts asking,
> "what are you doing Scott"?
> Or in an Austrian accent says "I"ll be bach" !
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 6 August 2016 8:47 PM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Kristeen Hughes]

Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed those 
responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.

Kristeen

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
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> Resistance is futile!
> 
> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
> Cait
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Unmoving tweets

[Dora Speck]

What do you mean by "Unmoving," and "unmet?"
If you're meaning "unfollow, just do a command plus L together and go to the 
table. Interact with the table and find the person you want to unfollow. Do a 
control plus option plus shift plus M together to go to the menu or just do a 
VO plus right arrow to the right once, and it should say, "menu," hit that, and 
go down to where it says, "unfollow."
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
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[Chris Moore]

Hello,
I just started using chrome.  Are there any keyboard shortcuts which will help 
me navigate the screens?  Also how can I click the menu in the upper right with 
VO?

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Hi. How do I unmet accounts that I’m following within the main twitter client 
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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[E.T.]

   Ok. QN will do weird things like this.

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On 8/6/2016 2:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

I am not sure. As I am not in front of my computer. Will let you all know 
tomorrow.

Sent from my iPhone


On 6 Aug 2016, at 10:31 pm, E.T.  wrote:

Kawal,
  Is Quick Nav enabled by any chance?

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Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use
Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried
creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would
not let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I
wanted to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home
Directory, locate the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete
that untitled folder name and then finally put in my name of choice.
Before I could do that automatically but not do it in Youcap.  So is
that a bug with voice over?  Please confirm.
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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I am not sure. As I am not in front of my computer. Will let you all know 
tomorrow.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Aug 2016, at 10:31 pm, E.T.  wrote:
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>> On 8/6/2016 12:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use
>> Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried
>> creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would
>> not let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I
>> wanted to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home
>> Directory, locate the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete
>> that untitled folder name and then finally put in my name of choice.
>> Before I could do that automatically but not do it in Youcap.  So is
>> that a bug with voice over?  Please confirm.
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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[E.T.]

Kawal,
   Is Quick Nav enabled by any chance?

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On 8/6/2016 12:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi.

Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use
Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried
creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would
not let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I
wanted to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home
Directory, locate the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete
that untitled folder name and then finally put in my name of choice.
 Before I could do that automatically but not do it in Youcap.  So is
that a bug with voice over?  Please confirm.
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Help with Abby fine reader

[denise avant]

Hello all,
I have a copy of abby fine reader pro for the mac. I was wondering how to 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Caitlyn Furness]

Resistance is futile!

Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
Cait

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
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> least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[Joseph]

Hello,
I am not having this problem at all. I can create new folders and write the 
folders name at the time of creation. I'm running the latest OS X.

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Yosemite, I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried 
> creating a folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would not 
> let me.  So I had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I wanted 
> to put in that folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home Directory, locate 
> the untitled folder name, press enter and then delete that untitled folder 
> name and then finally put in my name of choice.  Before I could do that 
> automatically but not do it in Youcap.  So is that a bug with voice over?  
> Please confirm.
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a bug in Voice Over, Writing text when creating new folders. Please confirm.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi.

Earlier on I had to create a new folder on my Mac.  When I use to use Yosemite, 
I had no problem creating folders.  However today when I tried creating a 
folder and writing the name of the folder, Voice Over would not let me.  So I 
had to leave it as untitled, paste in the files that I wanted to put in that 
folder, close the Browser, reopen the Home Directory, locate the untitled 
folder name, press enter and then delete that untitled folder name and then 
finally put in my name of choice.  Before I could do that automatically but not 
do it in Youcap.  So is that a bug with voice over?  Please confirm.
I'm fundraising for RNIB.

Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money Giving 
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[E.T.]

   Siri is smart to avoid religion at all costs or it might fry her 
circuits.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/6/2016 12:12 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
for humans and she has her circuits instead.
/A

On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated when 
my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but I 
almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”

On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I asked siri to play Jesus is wonderful but she only told me that Religion is 
for humans and she has her circuits instead.
/A
> On 6 Aug 2016, at 17:10, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated 
> when my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but 
> I almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Where are screen recordings saved.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I found it and sent it.
Hhowever i found no way in sending my settings folder as a zipped file which 
was possible to do on the last version of feedback asistant.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Phil Halton]

Honestly, you're a blind person and you can't hear a blush and somebody's voice?

Sent from my IPhone


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
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> 
> But how can you know she's blushing unless you can see your phone/mac screen 
> turn red?
> 
> 
> Sharon H.
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent 
>> from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of 
>>> life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or 
>>> some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very 
>>> clear definition of life, something like “the expression of self 
>>> determination and free thought in the form of a being or collection of 
>>> beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>>> 
>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>> 
>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Oddity with my burner.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have a apple cd burner which normally works like a charm but when i burn iso 
files like Linux or so and after that tries to boot or read them they wont read 
in the apple burner but with others works like they should.
Any thoughts on why?
/A

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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Katie Zodrow]

Wow! That is very wild!!! Yeah, you never know what Siri's going to say. :-) 
I'll have to ask her about the meaning of life next time and see what she says.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Well Scott,
> 
> I’ve asked Siri the same question, and she or he or it says, something 
> different each time.  At first she refused to answer but I was persistent.  
> First she said that one should live in harmony and peace, walk together and 
> read a good book, keep healthy and lose fat!  Next she gave the same answer 
> as you got.  I then asked Siri if she was alive and she said that she had 
> been advised not to discuss her existential status.   So what do you think 
> now? 
>> On 6 Aug 2016, at 09:46, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Well Scott,

I’ve asked Siri the same question, and she or he or it says, something 
different each time.  At first she refused to answer but I was persistent.  
First she said that one should live in harmony and peace, walk together and 
read a good book, keep healthy and lose fat!  Next she gave the same answer as 
you got.  I then asked Siri if she was alive and she said that she had been 
advised not to discuss her existential status.   So what do you think now? 
> On 6 Aug 2016, at 09:46, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
> least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Jessica Moss]

Wow, that’s sounds pretty wild.  Sounds like a tile when I was frustrated when 
my ride, of course was late, and I don’t know where this came from, but I 
almost told Siri “call Jesus,” instead of “call JTA.”
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
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> least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[E.T.]

   "The Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, and ST:TNG theme songs plays".

   What used to be pure science fiction is now reality. I could cite an 
increasing number of cases but Polemon Go comes to mind.


   "You will not be assimilated, you ARE assimilated". The Borg.

   Scary, creepy, unsettling. Enjoy life while you can. Wait. What is 
life? Ask Siri.


   I am off to the coffee shop and Siri will stay safely locked into my 
iPhone.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/6/2016 1:46 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.



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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Sharon Hooley]

But how can you know she's blushing unless you can see your phone/mac screen 
turn red?


Sharon H.

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent from 
> my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
>> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
>> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some 
>> sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
>> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
>> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
>> alive”
>> 
>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>> response was “close enough”
>> 
>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
>> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
>> 
>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>> 
>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
>> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
>> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
>> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. 
>> And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
>> 
>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
>> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>> 
>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I 
>> at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Phil Halton]

See if you can make her blush,  i've only been able to  do it once. Sent from 
my IPhone


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
> language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
> the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
> of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
> definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
> free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m 
> alive”
> 
> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
> response was “close enough”
> 
> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
> was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  
> 
> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
> 
> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
> weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something 
> else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 
> laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And 
> no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely none!
> 
> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
> yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
> 
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Getting info in Word 2016 for the Mac

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all, when using Word 2016 for the Mac with all updates installed how do I 
obtain information such as what the paragraph alignment is? For example if I 
press VO T it tells me the name of the font, the size, and the color but it 
doesn't tell me left aligned, right aligned, or centered? Also using the 
shortcut keys such as COMMAND E don't provide any useful feedback. Any 
suggestions? Also is there an easy keystroke to open the font attributes dialog?
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Re: Who's playing at Arthur's Tavern tonight?

[Antonio Guimaraes]

Thanks Tim,

I will look at the site again using your technique.

It looks like I forgot to provide a link in my original message.

Here it is: 

http://www.arthurstavernnyc.com/performances.html

Antonio


> On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I went to the site which I'm assuming you're speaking of.  Arthur's Tavern in 
> New York City.  Rather far away for me, but the web-site's close.  With 
> Safari and VO web navigation set to Group mode, I was able to press VO-cmd-t 
> to find the table, then VO-shift-down to interact with the table.  Once 
> inside the table, I could navigate with VO-left/right/up/down through the 
> various cells in the table telling me who played on each day of the wee.  I 
> believe that it was the Grove Street something-or-other on Mondays.  It's 
> possible that this site is more difficult using DOM or tab navigation, but It 
> seemed very accessible to me using Group navigation and VO keys.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 14:11, Antonio Guimaraes  
> wrote:
> 
> Now now. 
> 
> This is completely on topic.
> 
> I am trying to get this information from a table on their website. 
> 
> I can't figure out how to read said table with VoiceOver.
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio
> 
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RE: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey scott,

 I understand where your coming from with your sky net concerns but if your 
going to be afraid  leave it until siri starts asking,
"what are you doing Scott"?
Or in an Austrian accent says "I"ll be bach" !



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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 6 August 2016 8:47 PM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Very creepy experience with Siri

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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Very creepy experience with Siri

[Scott Granados]

So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good the 
language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning of life, 
the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 42 or some sort 
of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response was a very clear 
definition of life, something like “the expression of self determination and 
free thought in the form of a being or collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”

After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
response was “close enough”

My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The response 
was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”  

I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)

I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s the 
weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on something else. 
 Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t believe in the 3 laws of 
robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have you seen this boy”. And no robots 
with Austrian accents, absolutely none!

Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the initial 
yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?

Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die or I at 
least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.

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