RE: Could AirPods be the new iPhone?
Firstly I'd like to say I'm jellous, But that's only because my pods don't turn up till feb 3rd. But yeah why couldn't the pods be the full phone, The technology is there and very possible, It will be a case of shrinking things further so that everything fits in to the small ear pod size, Don't think this year will be the one though, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2017 4:20 AM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Could AirPods be the new iPhone? Hi everyone, I’ve been reading a lot of articles the last few days on the 10th anniversary of iPhone, what a success its been, and how its future is doomed. lol. Everyone seams to be looking for the new killer feature, be it hardware or software that will trumpet in the savior of the iPhone. So, I was one of the lucky ones who preordered the AirPods early, and got them the day of release, December 19th. And using them the last 2 plus weeks got me thinking. Imagine if Siri got better. I mean, Alexa amazon echo better. Google home better. Is that out of the realm of possibility? I don’t think so. It will be difficult because of Apples stance on privacy, and refusing to collect and harvest our data to the extent of Google and Amazon, but not impossible. I have to Echo. The Amazon Echo, and the amazon tap. I love them both. I think this is the future of computer interaction. Its the next thing that will take us away from multi touch displays. Technology is almost to the point where we can have basic conversation with our tech. Let me give an example of what I’m getting at. You have in your airPods, and you would like to check twitter. You double tap an AirPod or say, “Siri” read my home timeline. It proceeds to do just that. You get to a tweet you like. You say Stop. Then Like this tweet. Siri then does so. Then, continue reading. Get to a tweet you want to reply to. You say stop, reply to tweet. It says ready for your reply. You dictate, it reads back your text and asks if you want to send edit or cancel. All this happening while your on your elliptical, or treadmill. All this without being distracted by your phone. Let me give a bit of background to those who will say, sighted people don’t want this though. They are all about 8K displays, and graphics. Well, yes and no. I’m a big car guy. 10 years ago, you bought a brand new car, luxury or top trim regular automobile. for example, a 3 series BMW, or a top trim Honda Accord. You get a nav unit. You know what you had? Buttons and a generic display. Voice command? not a chance. You were hunting and pecking, typing in your destination address, and hoping you didn’t make any mistakes. fast forward 5 years, and those are replaced by touch screen nav units, or much more forgivable UI’s. In the case of BMW, you can write in the air with their new gesture based systems. But what do they all have? Voice input. Press a button and say, take me to 123 5th avenue, and you are on your way. Voice will be king in the car. This will translate to out of the car too I think. I know, I know. What if you want to view movies, pictures, IG, FB, Snapchat? What if iPhones ended up being glorified iPod touches or iPads? Just extremely hi res displays. Flexible, folding displays like what Samsung and LG has already developed. So for example. your at lunch with friends, and you want to show them video of your new born. you reach into your shirt pocket, this 3inch square unfolds into a 9 inch display. You have in your AirPods and just say, show recent baby vids. It starts to play. You just say, next video, or, zoom in. or, freeze, Isolate center image. Darkening and blurring the background, so only your baby is in focus. *Shrug*. I think This is where tech will be heading in the next 10 years. I know most have not been labeling as such but, AirPods are wearables. Just like the Apple watch. Only think thats really missing from either is a powerful enough virtual assistant. I was wondering what you guys thought? Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group
Re: Could AirPods be the new iPhone?
Personally, I think it's a cool concept, and I agree with all of you. Certainly they could be. I haven't yet purchased them, as I'm saving pennies for one of the new Macs, but will be very interested to own a pair one of these days. Donna > On Jan 12, 2017, at 3:54 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Firstly I'd like to say I'm jellous, > But that's only because my pods don't turn up till feb 3rd. > > But yeah why couldn't the pods be the full phone, > The technology is there and very possible, > It will be a case of shrinking things further so that everything fits in to > the small ear pod size, > Don't think this year will be the one though, > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2017 4:20 AM > To: Macvisionaries > Subject: Could AirPods be the new iPhone? > > Hi everyone, > > I’ve been reading a lot of articles the last few days on the 10th anniversary > of iPhone, what a success its been, and how its future is doomed. lol. > Everyone seams to be looking for the new killer feature, be it hardware or > software that will trumpet in the savior of the iPhone. > > So, I was one of the lucky ones who preordered the AirPods early, and got > them the day of release, December 19th. And using them the last 2 plus weeks > got me thinking. Imagine if Siri got better. I mean, Alexa amazon echo > better. Google home better. Is that out of the realm of possibility? I don’t > think so. It will be difficult because of Apples stance on privacy, and > refusing to collect and harvest our data to the extent of Google and Amazon, > but not impossible. I have to Echo. The Amazon Echo, and the amazon tap. I > love them both. I think this is the future of computer interaction. Its the > next thing that will take us away from multi touch displays. Technology is > almost to the point where we can have basic conversation with our tech. Let > me give an example of what I’m getting at. You have in your airPods, and you > would like to check twitter. You double tap an AirPod or say, “Siri” read my > home timeline. It proceeds to do just that. You get to a tweet you like. You > say Stop. Then Like this tweet. Siri then does so. Then, continue reading. > Get to a tweet you want to reply to. You say stop, reply to tweet. It says > ready for your reply. You dictate, it reads back your text and asks if you > want to send edit or cancel. All this happening while your on your > elliptical, or treadmill. All this without being distracted by your phone. > Let me give a bit of background to those who will say, sighted people don’t > want this though. They are all about 8K displays, and graphics. Well, yes and > no. I’m a big car guy. 10 years ago, you bought a brand new car, luxury or > top trim regular automobile. for example, a 3 series BMW, or a top trim Honda > Accord. You get a nav unit. You know what you had? Buttons and a generic > display. Voice command? not a chance. You were hunting and pecking, typing in > your destination address, and hoping you didn’t make any mistakes. fast > forward 5 years, and those are replaced by touch screen nav units, or much > more forgivable UI’s. In the case of BMW, you can write in the air with their > new gesture based systems. But what do they all have? Voice input. Press a > button and say, take me to 123 5th avenue, and you are on your way. Voice > will be king in the car. This will translate to out of the car too I think. > > I know, I know. What if you want to view movies, pictures, IG, FB, Snapchat? > What if iPhones ended up being glorified iPod touches or iPads? Just > extremely hi res displays. Flexible, folding displays like what Samsung and > LG has already developed. So for example. your at lunch with friends, and you > want to show them video of your new born. you reach into your shirt pocket, > this 3inch square unfolds into a 9 inch display. You have in your AirPods and > just say, show recent baby vids. It starts to play. You just say, next video, > or, zoom in. or, freeze, Isolate center image. Darkening and blurring the > background, so only your baby is in focus. *Shrug*. I think This is where > tech will be heading in the next 10 years. I know most have not been labeling > as such but, AirPods are wearables. Just like the Apple watch. Only think > thats really missing from either is a powerful enough virtual assistant. > > I was wondering what you guys thought? > > Thanks. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera.
Re: Re Ordering items
hi, The keyboard commands are cmd-ctrl-up and cmd-ctrl-down. These are also found under the AudioBook menu item. This usually happens when CD's are inputted in the incorrect order. AudioBook Builder doesn't alphabetize or order anything on its own, it relies on you inserting the CD's in the correct order yourself. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 11, 2017, at 19:30, E.T. wrote: In Audiobook Builder, when I attempt to join some tracks to make chapters, they are listed backwards. Instead if 1 2 3 for example I get 3 2 1. Not sure why this happens. I have tried to figure out how to drag them back in order. What keystrokes will do this? Thanks. >From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Could AirPods be the new iPhone?
The big deal here is to get Siri to a usable point. I think this will be difficult until Apple gets some real top AI talent in house. I know they are making moves in this direction. Siri though is a couple years behind Google though it seems to me. I don’t think the concerns are privacy as much as just a lack of in house skill on Apple’s part in this area. Remember Google has bet more heavily on AI for a while now. > On Jan 11, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I’ve been reading a lot of articles the last few days on the 10th anniversary > of iPhone, what a success its been, and how its future is doomed. lol. > Everyone seams to be looking for the new killer feature, be it hardware or > software that will trumpet in the savior of the iPhone. > > So, I was one of the lucky ones who preordered the AirPods early, and got > them the day of release, December 19th. And using them the last 2 plus weeks > got me thinking. Imagine if Siri got better. I mean, Alexa amazon echo > better. Google home better. Is that out of the realm of possibility? I don’t > think so. It will be difficult because of Apples stance on privacy, and > refusing to collect and harvest our data to the extent of Google and Amazon, > but not impossible. I have to Echo. The Amazon Echo, and the amazon tap. I > love them both. I think this is the future of computer interaction. Its the > next thing that will take us away from multi touch displays. Technology is > almost to the point where we can have basic conversation with our tech. Let > me give an example of what I’m getting at. You have in your airPods, and you > would like to check twitter. You double tap an AirPod or say, “Siri” read my > home timeline. It proceeds to do just that. You get to a tweet you like. You > say Stop. Then Like this tweet. Siri then does so. Then, continue reading. > Get to a tweet you want to reply to. You say stop, reply to tweet. It says > ready for your reply. You dictate, it reads back your text and asks if you > want to send edit or cancel. All this happening while your on your > elliptical, or treadmill. All this without being distracted by your phone. > Let me give a bit of background to those who will say, sighted people don’t > want this though. They are all about 8K displays, and graphics. Well, yes and > no. I’m a big car guy. 10 years ago, you bought a brand new car, luxury or > top trim regular automobile. for example, a 3 series BMW, or a top trim Honda > Accord. You get a nav unit. You know what you had? Buttons and a generic > display. Voice command? not a chance. You were hunting and pecking, typing in > your destination address, and hoping you didn’t make any mistakes. fast > forward 5 years, and those are replaced by touch screen nav units, or much > more forgivable UI’s. In the case of BMW, you can write in the air with their > new gesture based systems. But what do they all have? Voice input. Press a > button and say, take me to 123 5th avenue, and you are on your way. Voice > will be king in the car. This will translate to out of the car too I think. > > I know, I know. What if you want to view movies, pictures, IG, FB, Snapchat? > What if iPhones ended up being glorified iPod touches or iPads? Just > extremely hi res displays. Flexible, folding displays like what Samsung and > LG has already developed. So for example. your at lunch with friends, and you > want to show them video of your new born. you reach into your shirt pocket, > this 3inch square unfolds into a 9 inch display. You have in your AirPods and > just say, show recent baby vids. It starts to play. You just say, next video, > or, zoom in. or, freeze, Isolate center image. Darkening and blurring the > background, so only your baby is in focus. *Shrug*. I think This is where > tech will be heading in the next 10 years. I know most have not been labeling > as such but, AirPods are wearables. Just like the Apple watch. Only think > thats really missing from either is a powerful enough virtual assistant. > > I was wondering what you guys thought? > > Thanks. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisiona
Re: Re Ordering items
Oh thanks Tim. I should have looked at the menus more closely. I will send the developer the suggestion to add sorting. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 1/12/2017 7:04 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: hi, The keyboard commands are cmd-ctrl-up and cmd-ctrl-down. These are also found under the AudioBook menu item. This usually happens when CD's are inputted in the incorrect order. AudioBook Builder doesn't alphabetize or order anything on its own, it relies on you inserting the CD's in the correct order yourself. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 11, 2017, at 19:30, E.T. wrote: In Audiobook Builder, when I attempt to join some tracks to make chapters, they are listed backwards. Instead if 1 2 3 for example I get 3 2 1. Not sure why this happens. I have tried to figure out how to drag them back in order. What keystrokes will do this? Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Any 2017 Apple-Related New Year Resolutions?
Hello Everyone, I was just wondering if any of you have made any Apple related 2017 new year resolutions? As for me, my 2017 resolution is to (1), thank/acknowledge at least 1 app developer per month for continuing to include VoiceOver accessibility in its updates and (2), to lobby at least 1 currently non-VoiceOver accessible app developer to either add or improve VoiceOver accessibility to its offerings. I look forward to your replies, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Any 2017 Apple-Related New Year Resolutions?
Mark, For once, I like your resolution. As for myself, although I don't believe in resolutions, like last year if any new apple product comes out, I am going to get an honest opinion first and not just rely on the company who will market their product as I will go for a proper considered approach. Last year, I waited for a friend to buy his Apple I watch, second Generation and after a week, I asked him for his view. Based on what he said, I did not buy the watch. I was very glad as I heard that he sold it after being disappointed. Just a shame he lost a bit of money, but I saved myself from an unwise purchase. However, based on the companies description of stereo speakers on the I phone, I went for it. With the Brexit negotiations, you don't know if inflation is going to go up (as they say it will), therefore, products will become expensive in the short term. However, if Apple are moving here to the UK, then I hope we have more Apple stores as you can only go to the Apple store here if you live in a handful of cities. I don't even know how they are chosen. If anyone knows, please enlighten me. Bad luck to Ireland who will lose their big store thanks to the EU's greed re taxes. Kawal. > On 12 Jan 2017, at 19:55, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I was just wondering if any of you have made any Apple related 2017 new year > resolutions? > > As for me, my 2017 resolution is to (1), thank/acknowledge at least 1 app > developer per month for continuing to include VoiceOver accessibility in its > updates and (2), to lobby at least 1 currently non-VoiceOver accessible app > developer to either add or improve VoiceOver accessibility to its offerings. > > I look forward to your replies, > > Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
TP-Link routers
Hi all, does anybody know if TP-Link routers are accessible from a Mac with VO? I have an urgent need for a new router. I have been using a DLink for the past couple of years. Thanks for any help. Max. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: TP-Link routers
Hi, My parents have this archer C2. https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=inclusivean03-20&keywords=Tp link archer c2&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=4c14ec45f6601082ee5ffa5a6bd6a41b The interface of this was fully accessible on safari on my mac, and the feature set is really solid. It's got a medeoker rating on amazon, but I'm not really sure why. Hope this helps, Erik Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On January 12, 2017 6:42:36 PM Agent086b wrote: Hi all, does anybody know if TP-Link routers are accessible from a Mac with VO? I have an urgent need for a new router. I have been using a DLink for the past couple of years. Thanks for any help. Max. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
