Re: Navigating Finder

[E.T.]

   Yes I do that too. Am curious though, what is the VO-shift-S command 
for then which interacts with scroll bars?


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On 3/6/2017 11:11 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

I have always just typed the prefix of the file I am looking for, for
example when in the Applications folder typing "p r e " gets me to
preview application.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 9:27 PM E.T. > wrote:

Jonathan,
Please clarify. When in a folder with hundreds of files, what
commands do in fact work? So far the only way to scroll and keep the VO
cursor  visible is simply to use the up and down arrow keys.

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   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 3/5/2017 12:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> Yes, it is standard in MacOs that the current selection does not move
> when using standard scrolling functions like page up or page down. I
> generally avoid these commands for the VoiceOver equivalent keys or
> using a VoiceOver search.
>
> Other things you might find useful depending on your actions:
> command-J jump to selection Move the selected item to be visible in a
> scrolling window.
> vo-shift-space click mouse at current mouse location.
>
> If you are in a finder window with list view active and hit page
up even
> if VoiceOver follows mouse is enabled, you will notice with vo-F5 vs
> vo-F3 that the mouse and VO cursor are not in the same place.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Larry Thacker Jr.
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I did my homework, but I haven’t found the answer to this one.  If I
>> want to move quickly through a list of files in Windows, I can simply
>> press Page down.  The focus will move with me.  Not so in Finder.
>>  Focus stays where I left it at last arrow press.  Is there any
way to
>> make focus travel with the page up and page down keys, or some way to
>> get it to come to me after scrolling?  If the search function worked
>> better I wouldn’t have to scroll, but that horse is dead.
>>
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Re: Navigating Finder

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

That doesn’t seem to work.  Using Item Chooser might get that result, but on a 
big folder it takes crazy long to come up.  Vo Find was similarly pokey.  The 
mouse idea might prove workable though.  I will have to play with that.  Maybe 
its also time to create some subfolders and organize so that there’s not so 
much in one list.


Thanks.

> On Mar 6, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I have always just typed the prefix of the file I am looking for, for example 
> when in the Applications folder typing "p r e " gets me to preview 
> application.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 9:27 PM E.T.  > wrote:
> Jonathan,
> Please clarify. When in a folder with hundreds of files, what
> commands do in fact work? So far the only way to scroll and keep the VO
> cursor  visible is simply to use the up and down arrow keys.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 3/5/2017 12:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> > Yes, it is standard in MacOs that the current selection does not move
> > when using standard scrolling functions like page up or page down. I
> > generally avoid these commands for the VoiceOver equivalent keys or
> > using a VoiceOver search.
> >
> > Other things you might find useful depending on your actions:
> > command-J jump to selection Move the selected item to be visible in a
> > scrolling window.
> > vo-shift-space click mouse at current mouse location.
> >
> > If you are in a finder window with list view active and hit page up even
> > if VoiceOver follows mouse is enabled, you will notice with vo-F5 vs
> > vo-F3 that the mouse and VO cursor are not in the same place.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Larry Thacker Jr.
> >>  
> >> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I did my homework, but I haven’t found the answer to this one.  If I
> >> want to move quickly through a list of files in Windows, I can simply
> >> press Page down.  The focus will move with me.  Not so in Finder.
> >>  Focus stays where I left it at last arrow press.  Is there any way to
> >> make focus travel with the page up and page down keys, or some way to
> >> get it to come to me after scrolling?  If the search function worked
> >> better I wouldn’t have to scroll, but that horse is dead.
> >>
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Re: Navigating Finder

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have always just typed the prefix of the file I am looking for, for
example when in the Applications folder typing "p r e " gets me to preview
application.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 9:27 PM E.T.  wrote:

> Jonathan,
> Please clarify. When in a folder with hundreds of files, what
> commands do in fact work? So far the only way to scroll and keep the VO
> cursor  visible is simply to use the up and down arrow keys.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 3/5/2017 12:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> > Yes, it is standard in MacOs that the current selection does not move
> > when using standard scrolling functions like page up or page down. I
> > generally avoid these commands for the VoiceOver equivalent keys or
> > using a VoiceOver search.
> >
> > Other things you might find useful depending on your actions:
> > command-J jump to selection Move the selected item to be visible in a
> > scrolling window.
> > vo-shift-space click mouse at current mouse location.
> >
> > If you are in a finder window with list view active and hit page up even
> > if VoiceOver follows mouse is enabled, you will notice with vo-F5 vs
> > vo-F3 that the mouse and VO cursor are not in the same place.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Larry Thacker Jr.
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I did my homework, but I haven’t found the answer to this one.  If I
> >> want to move quickly through a list of files in Windows, I can simply
> >> press Page down.  The focus will move with me.  Not so in Finder.
> >>  Focus stays where I left it at last arrow press.  Is there any way to
> >> make focus travel with the page up and page down keys, or some way to
> >> get it to come to me after scrolling?  If the search function worked
> >> better I wouldn’t have to scroll, but that horse is dead.
> >>
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Re: YouTube TV Release Date, Price and Specs

[Mike Arrigo]

Certainly more competition is a good thing, although it sounds like 
youtube will need to offer more channels in order to compete with the 
other services, at this point, the channel list is rather lacking.

Original message:

Hello Everyone,



Here is an article that I thought you may find interesting.



Enjoy,



Mark



YouTube TV Release Date, Price and Specs - CNET
CNET Reviews - Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:52 AM



Cable TV just got its biggest competitor yet.



YouTube, the most popular video service on the web that recently announced
it streamed one billion hours per day, is now launching a live TV service
called YouTube TV.



Unlike the free YouTube you know so well, populated by cat videos, how-tos
and myriad independent channels and shows, YouTube TV is a direct competitor
to cable you'll have to pay for. It will deliver live local TV channels like
ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC as well as cable stalwarts like ESPN, the Disney
Channel, Fox News and Bravo. (Disclosure: CBS is the parent company of CNET
and Showtime.)
The cost? $35 per month. YouTube hasn't yet set a release date, saying only
that YouTube TV will appear "in the next few months."



If you've never had cable TV service, you've already cut the cord, or you're
on the fence considering whether to do so, YouTube TV offers yet another
basically risk-free service to consider. Risk-free because you can cancel
anytime and you're only out $35. Try that with your cable company.



Three similar services exist already, namely Sling TV, PlayStation Vue and
DirecTV Now, and Hulu has said it will debut yet another entry in this field
before the end of the year, too. All offer various channel packages and
features for a range of prices, starting at $20 per month for Sling TV.
Here's a closer look.



How does YouTube TV's channels compare?
This is the big unknown, mainly because it could add more channels between
now and when it launches.



YouTube TV claims it's still negotiating with a few program providers to add
channels. It says that the price won't go up if and when that happens.



In the meantime, here are all of the channels it has announced so far:



The networks included in YouTube TV are mostly the major broadcast networks
and the cable channels owned by their parent companies.
YouTube



If it launches with only the channels above, its total number of channels
will fall short of the base packages offered by DirecTV Now ($35/month) and
PlayStation Vue ($30 or $40). The selection above is more than Sling offers
in its base package ($20/month), however.



Major channels missing from YouTube TV's lineup, yet available on other
services, include AMC, CNN, Comedy Central, Discovery, Food Network, MTV and
TNT, among many others. HBO is also a no-show, but you can sign up for HBO
Now separately.



If you're curious, here's a tally of all of the channels available on the
other three.
YouTube TV will include YouTube Red original shows and movies. It also says
that all of YouTube's trademark user-generated and online-native content
would be folded into YouTube TV's searches.
Beyond channels, what else should I know?



The features included with a YouTube TV subscription are similar to what is
offered on other devices, with some major differences.



.   Cloud DVR with unlimited storage
.   3 simultaneous streams per account
.   6 user profiles with separate log-ins per account
.   Works with Chromecast, Google Home, computers, iOS and Android
phones and tablets
.   Launching in select major US cities only



The cloud DVR lets you "record" shows to watch later, just like a
traditional cable DVR, and sounds superior to what's offered on competitors.
PlayStation Vue's cloud DVR erases your shows after 28 days. Sling TV's
cloud DVR is still in beta and only available with certain devices, while
DirecTV's has been promised but hasn't launched yet.



The multiple simultaneous streams is similar to a "family plan" on a service
like Spotify, allowing you to stream to more than one TV or device at the
same time. Competitors (beyond Sling's base plan) also offer it. Only
YouTube TV and Vue allows user profiles (similar to Netflix and Hulu),
however, and only YouTube TV lets you log in with different credentials
(email and password) to the same account. That makes it the most "shareable"
of the bunch.



So far, Chromecast is the only TV device Google says will work with YouTube
TV.
Sarah Tew/CNET



Device support is spotty so far, however, with only Chromecast able to
connect to a TV (Google Home owners can also command it via voice). If you
have a TV with "Chromecast built-in," like Vizio SmartCast models or Sony
sets running Android TV, it will work with those too. Like its competitors,
YouTube TV is also available on mobile phones, tablets and computers.



YouTube says support for "many other connected streaming devices and smart
TVs is coming in 2017." That means it could add other TV platforms before
launch, such as 

Re: good vo accessible alternatives to the finder (for searching for files)?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Jonathan,
What are the steps to print out "all the files in a directory subtree"?
I often would like to grab all the names of  a folder full of pro tools preset 
names I've done so I can put them in to a text doc for quick referencing them  
while looking for that perfect PT preset! :)
Thanks
Chuck
 

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 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he 
trusteth in thee.

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On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> mdfind can be quite powerful, since it uses the index's that spotlight uses, 
> though if your spotlight files are not working correctly it will not work 
> either. Your post reminded me that I often do a two step process when using 
> the find command. I will print out all the files in a directory subtree, and 
> then work on the results of the output. This way if I make a mistake I don't 
> have to rescan the directory tree, but can just redo the search command. 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:25 AM Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> i use a combo of mdfind and grep, i dont touch, though ss am being a good girl
> 
> On 3/6/17, 'Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> > Jon, you are absolutely right, sorry for the over-simplification here.
> > I guess I was trying to make things more simple then they are to advertise
> > the use of the terminal for tasks like searching for files.
> > Personally I use the terminal quite frequently because it is "always
> > accessible"
> > But once you get to the point where you want - for instance - to filter
> > your search results through egrep you'll need to write a real RegEx with .*
> >
> > to match all characters.
> > /Roland
> >
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 5. März 2017 21:00:51 UTC+1 schrieb Jon:
> >>
> >> Quick note here, the pattern match you mention below is not considered a
> >> Regular expression but instead a "glob expression".
> >>
> >> The primary difference is that in a glob * means match any number of any
> >> characters, while in a regular expression it would be ".*" in other words
> >>
> >> having a period before the *. This is because regular expressions use all
> >>
> >> punctuation to mean something special
> >>
> >> The period is used to match any character.
> >> The star means zero or more of the immediately preceding pattern (in this
> >>
> >> case . or any character).
> >>
> >> Generally in UNIX like systems which terminal brings you to a bSD UNIX
> >> environment, most places where you are requesting a matching of file names
> >>
> >> u   are using a glob pattern and not a regular expression.
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Jonathan Cohn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:25 AM, 'Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries <
> >> macvisi...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have some big folders that I need to search through forcertain files. I
> >>
> >>> know i should be able to do it with finder but for some reason that does
> >>>
> >>> not work so well for me in the latest os x. I was wondering if there are
> >>>
> >>> any good vo accessible finder alternatives that work well?
> >>>
> >>> Well, it may sound trivial but if I need to search a folder I simply open
> >>>
> >> Terminal, navigate to the folder I want to start my search from and then
> >> type
> >> find ./ -name MyFileStartsWith*
> >> replacing MyFileStartsWith with the part of the file name I am looking
> >> for. You can use any regular expression for your All files matching your
> >> criteria are then listed.
> >> /Roland
> >>
> >>
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Re: good vo accessible alternatives to the finder (for searching for files)?

[Jonathan Cohn]

mdfind can be quite powerful, since it uses the index's that spotlight
uses, though if your spotlight files are not working correctly it will not
work either. Your post reminded me that I often do a two step process when
using the find command. I will print out all the files in a directory
subtree, and then work on the results of the output. This way if I make a
mistake I don't have to rescan the directory tree, but can just redo the
search command.


On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:25 AM Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
wrote:

> i use a combo of mdfind and grep, i dont touch, though ss am being a good
> girl
>
> On 3/6/17, 'Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> > Jon, you are absolutely right, sorry for the over-simplification here.
> > I guess I was trying to make things more simple then they are to
> advertise
> > the use of the terminal for tasks like searching for files.
> > Personally I use the terminal quite frequently because it is "always
> > accessible"
> > But once you get to the point where you want - for instance - to filter
> > your search results through egrep you'll need to write a real RegEx with
> .*
> >
> > to match all characters.
> > /Roland
> >
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 5. März 2017 21:00:51 UTC+1 schrieb Jon:
> >>
> >> Quick note here, the pattern match you mention below is not considered a
> >> Regular expression but instead a "glob expression".
> >>
> >> The primary difference is that in a glob * means match any number of any
> >> characters, while in a regular expression it would be ".*" in other
> words
> >>
> >> having a period before the *. This is because regular expressions use
> all
> >>
> >> punctuation to mean something special
> >>
> >> The period is used to match any character.
> >> The star means zero or more of the immediately preceding pattern (in
> this
> >>
> >> case . or any character).
> >>
> >> Generally in UNIX like systems which terminal brings you to a bSD UNIX
> >> environment, most places where you are requesting a matching of file
> names
> >>
> >> u   are using a glob pattern and not a regular expression.
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Jonathan Cohn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:25 AM, 'Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries <
> >> macvisi...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have some big folders that I need to search through forcertain files.
> I
> >>
> >>> know i should be able to do it with finder but for some reason that
> does
> >>>
> >>> not work so well for me in the latest os x. I was wondering if there
> are
> >>>
> >>> any good vo accessible finder alternatives that work well?
> >>>
> >>> Well, it may sound trivial but if I need to search a folder I simply
> open
> >>>
> >> Terminal, navigate to the folder I want to start my search from and then
> >> type
> >> find ./ -name MyFileStartsWith*
> >> replacing MyFileStartsWith with the part of the file name I am looking
> >> for. You can use any regular expression for your All files matching your
> >> criteria are then listed.
> >> /Roland
> >>
> >>
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> >> Visionaries list.
> >>
> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
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> >>
> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark
> at:
> >>
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> >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com 
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Looking for a Check Printing App

[Bill Gallik]

I’m looking for a Check Writing/Register app for my Mac Mini; I currently have 
Checkbook Pro but it doesn’t support a check printing feature. Can anyone offer 
a suggestion for an app that:

- Is predominantly accessible to a totally blind person.
- Offers a reasonably straight-forward check register.
- Can be used to print out checks.

I assume that I will require “Quickbooks Style” full sheet checks that can 
readily be passed through a standard printer; that’s fine because I already 
have those.

Checkbook Pro - as a check register program - is excellent but does not support 
check printing. For now, I’ve been using the “Check Printer” app on my iPhone 
to get checks printed, but I’d really prefer to have an app that “does it all.” 
I contacted the folks at Splasm last spring and they responded that there would 
be an update to Checkbook Pro with a check printing feature this last autumn.  
However, this past autumn they contacted me again to inform me that the check 
printing feature would be delayed until this winter.  Well, there’s only a 
couple of weeks left in “this winter” and I’ve heard nothing of the update.

I must say that Splasm has been excellent in providing VoiceOver accessibility 
with Checkbook Pro, but it does not meet all my needs as I do want an app that 
will let me print out checks as well as provide a great online check register!

Bill 
- "That I have no sight, does not mean I have no vision."
- Bill Gallik, Northern Wisconsin Curmudgeon, 1952-20?? (I am NOT delusional)??

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Re: good vo accessible alternatives to the finder (for searching for files)?

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

i use a combo of mdfind and grep, i dont touch, though ss am being a good girl

On 3/6/17, 'Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Jon, you are absolutely right, sorry for the over-simplification here.
> I guess I was trying to make things more simple then they are to advertise
> the use of the terminal for tasks like searching for files.
> Personally I use the terminal quite frequently because it is "always
> accessible"
> But once you get to the point where you want - for instance - to filter
> your search results through egrep you'll need to write a real RegEx with .*
>
> to match all characters.
> /Roland
>
>
> Am Sonntag, 5. März 2017 21:00:51 UTC+1 schrieb Jon:
>>
>> Quick note here, the pattern match you mention below is not considered a
>> Regular expression but instead a "glob expression".
>>
>> The primary difference is that in a glob * means match any number of any
>> characters, while in a regular expression it would be ".*" in other words
>>
>> having a period before the *. This is because regular expressions use all
>>
>> punctuation to mean something special
>>
>> The period is used to match any character.
>> The star means zero or more of the immediately preceding pattern (in this
>>
>> case . or any character).
>>
>> Generally in UNIX like systems which terminal brings you to a bSD UNIX
>> environment, most places where you are requesting a matching of file names
>>
>> u   are using a glob pattern and not a regular expression.
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:25 AM, 'Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries <
>> macvisi...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have some big folders that I need to search through forcertain files. I
>>
>>> know i should be able to do it with finder but for some reason that does
>>>
>>> not work so well for me in the latest os x. I was wondering if there are
>>>
>>> any good vo accessible finder alternatives that work well?
>>>
>>> Well, it may sound trivial but if I need to search a folder I simply open
>>>
>> Terminal, navigate to the folder I want to start my search from and then
>> type
>> find ./ -name MyFileStartsWith*
>> replacing MyFileStartsWith with the part of the file name I am looking
>> for. You can use any regular expression for your All files matching your
>> criteria are then listed.
>> /Roland
>>
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Re: good vo accessible alternatives to the finder (for searching for files)?

['Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries]

Jon, you are absolutely right, sorry for the over-simplification here.
I guess I was trying to make things more simple then they are to advertise 
the use of the terminal for tasks like searching for files.
Personally I use the terminal quite frequently because it is "always 
accessible" 
But once you get to the point where you want - for instance - to filter 
your search results through egrep you'll need to write a real RegEx with .* 
to match all characters.
/Roland


Am Sonntag, 5. März 2017 21:00:51 UTC+1 schrieb Jon:
>
> Quick note here, the pattern match you mention below is not considered a 
> Regular expression but instead a "glob expression". 
>
> The primary difference is that in a glob * means match any number of any 
> characters, while in a regular expression it would be ".*" in other words 
> having a period before the *. This is because regular expressions use all 
> punctuation to mean something special 
>
> The period is used to match any character.
> The star means zero or more of the immediately preceding pattern (in this 
> case . or any character).
>
> Generally in UNIX like systems which terminal brings you to a bSD UNIX 
> environment, most places where you are requesting a matching of file names 
> u   are using a glob pattern and not a regular expression. 
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn 
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:25 AM, 'Roland Zitzke' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisi...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>
>
> I have some big folders that I need to search through forcertain files. I 
>> know i should be able to do it with finder but for some reason that does 
>> not work so well for me in the latest os x. I was wondering if there are 
>> any good vo accessible finder alternatives that work well? 
>>
>> Well, it may sound trivial but if I need to search a folder I simply open 
> Terminal, navigate to the folder I want to start my search from and then 
> type
> find ./ -name MyFileStartsWith*
> replacing MyFileStartsWith with the part of the file name I am looking 
> for. You can use any regular expression for your All files matching your 
> criteria are then listed.
> /Roland
>  
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