Re: Opinion: Are subscription-based apps the future, or will they implode?

[E.T.]

   Its a mixed bag. Some types of apps may be better suited for a 
subscription plan. Media for example.


   But there are many that should remain one-time purchases. For every 
100 developers that jump on board, we probably see more than half drop out.


   In preparation for a new iPhone and iOS 11, I purged many apps. Over 
2 dozen were no longer in the app store and quite a few of those were 
paid apps.


   I reckon we will see how things shake down.

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On 8/16/2017 6:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 6:41 AM
Opinion: Are subscription-based apps the future, or will they implode?

The decision of the popular writing app Ulysses to switch from a one-off
purchase to a monthly or annual subscription has attracted a great deal of
criticism. Here's a sprinkling of views from the comments.
Subscribe to a text editor? I'm out.
I bought this on iOS last week. As far as I'm concerned, that was a total
waste of money now they're moving to this subscription model.
This "rent your software" crap needs to stop, and people need to stop
defending it.
Ulysses is a great app and I wish the developers all the best, but I'm out,
looking for alternatives.
Read: "Popular iOS and Mac writing app Ulysses Digs Its Own Grave and Gets
In"
The company, of course, has its own rationale .

We want to make sure the app will be around for years and years to come. We
want to heavily invest in its development, and this requires the right
setting for our team, our families and our users. Writers want to rely on a
professional tool that is constantly evolving, and we want to keep
delivering just that.
The company says that anyone who bought the app when it first launched has
now received nine major updates at no cost, and that this isn't sustainable.
And, of course, Ullysses isn't the only app to have switched to a
subscription model - nor the only company to come under fire for doing so.
The highest-profile example is Adobe. The company first started offering its
subscription-based Creative Cloud service back in 2012. At that point, users
could choose between buying individual apps, buying packages - or signing-up
to a monthly or annual subscription.
But just a year later, the company announced that it would no longer sell
its Creative Suite software outright, and that the only way to get the
latest versions would be via subscription. Even for apps you could still buy
outright, you didn't get the same functionality as the subscription version.
We're seeing the same trend everywhere. Right now, you can still buy
individual TV shows and movies, but iTunes popularized the idea of renting
them instead, and companies like Netflix take things further with a fixed
monthly subscription for all-you-can-eat streaming access.
And, of course, Apple Music now gives us the option of renting, rather than
owning, our music.

The idea of renting rather than owning isn't without its benefits, of
course. Developers get a steady stream of income, which enables them to keep
updating apps and adding new features, while users get access at a more
affordable up-front cost.
And for some apps and services, it makes sound financial sense. Take music
as an example. Back in the days when the only option was to buy albums, many
of us spent thousands - sometimes tens of thousands - of dollars over the
years. A young person today can lay out ten bucks a month and get instant
access to more music than any of us will ever own in our lifetimes. Having a
$10 cost of entry to almost all the music commercially available is quite an
incredible thing. If I were starting out today, I honestly don't know
whether I'd choose to own any music.
In software, Adobe was able to get away with it for much the same reason.
Outright purchase of a suite of its apps could again cost thousands, and you
knew it was only a matter of time before you'd need to pay to upgrade to the
latest version. Indeed, many photographers found themselves forced to
upgrade when they bought a new camera as the RAW converter for it would only
be available for the latest version of Lightroom. An affordable monthly fee
was a decent alternative.
In TV and movies, renting rather than owning can again save you money. Many
have dispensed with traditional TV packages, and buying movies outright, and
instead pay just $8-12 per month for a Netflix subscription. Provided the
shows you want are available, that's a great deal.
Some people even effectively choose to rent their iPhone. In the old days,
you did this as a hidden cost in your carrier's plan, now you can do it
through Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program. That's again a way of turning a
large lump-sum payment into a more manageable monthly one.
But there are, I think, four reasons why many of us feel 

Re: Apple to spend $1bn on original content and produce up to 10 new shows over the next year, according to report

[Karen Lewellen]

now, this is an arena where Apple can start filtering positive images 
into popular culture.
For allot of those who do not understand adaptive technology,, its because 
they have not seen the technology in use.
have a restaurant scene? put a couple at a table, one with  a service 
animal or  a cane.
shot of a street with people passing? let one of them use a visible 
navigational device.
Certainly you can up the image  into characters but at least start by placing people 
living differently where the general public can notice and go...oh okay, I 
saw that  on  Apple tv or something.

Thoughts?
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Barack Obama.

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017, M. Taylor wrote:


9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 2:45 AM
Apple to spend $1bn on original content and produce up to 10 new shows over
the next year, according to report

Apple appears to be taking original content production very seriously.
Building on significant talent hires, the Wall Street Journal writes Apple
has readied a $1 billion budget to 'procure and produce' content over the
next year.
The report says the sum is about half what HBO spent on production last
year. Apple could launch up to ten new shows, with Apple SVP Eddy Cue said
to have ambitions to offer shows that rival Game of Thrones.

Apple's initial rounds of content have not been runaway successes, with
Planet of the Apps and Carpool Karaoke receiving bad-to-mild reviews from
critics. Reach of the shows has also been limited to users with Apple Music
subscriptions.
However, until recently, it didn't really feel like Apple was giving much
priority to original content efforts. With a large wallet and premiere
talent leading the video programming division, it is likely that the quality
of Apple's in-development programming will also be higher.
The report notes that Jamie Erlicht and Zack Van Amburg, the Sony veterans
Apple hired in June, started work in early August and have taken over video
production responsibilities from the Apple Music team. The execs have
already held meetings with Hollywood to find shows to acquire.
It isn't clear yet how the new shows will be released to customers. Apple
currently hosts Planet of the Apps and Carpool Karaoke on Apple Music, but
it seems likely that the company will double-down on a true, dedicated,
internet TV service with the new initiatives.
In terms of hardware, a new Apple TV set-top box is expected to launch later
this year with support for 4K output. The product could be announced as soon
as September, alongside the new iPhone and Apple Watch models.

Original Article at:
http://9to5mac.com/2017/08/16/apple-original-content-1-billion-ten-shows/



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Re: Opinion: Are subscription-based apps the future, or will they implode?

[lenron brown]

I agree with what the person said in this article. I wouldn't mind
paying every so often for a major update, but having everything as a
monthly fee would get to be a  bit much after a while.

On 8/16/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 6:41 AM
> Opinion: Are subscription-based apps the future, or will they implode?
>
> The decision of the popular writing app Ulysses to switch from a one-off
> purchase to a monthly or annual subscription has attracted a great deal of
> criticism. Here's a sprinkling of views from the comments.
> Subscribe to a text editor? I'm out.
> I bought this on iOS last week. As far as I'm concerned, that was a total
> waste of money now they're moving to this subscription model.
> This "rent your software" crap needs to stop, and people need to stop
> defending it.
> Ulysses is a great app and I wish the developers all the best, but I'm out,
> looking for alternatives.
> Read: "Popular iOS and Mac writing app Ulysses Digs Its Own Grave and Gets
> In"
> The company, of course, has its own rationale .
>
> We want to make sure the app will be around for years and years to come. We
> want to heavily invest in its development, and this requires the right
> setting for our team, our families and our users. Writers want to rely on a
> professional tool that is constantly evolving, and we want to keep
> delivering just that.
> The company says that anyone who bought the app when it first launched has
> now received nine major updates at no cost, and that this isn't
> sustainable.
> And, of course, Ullysses isn't the only app to have switched to a
> subscription model - nor the only company to come under fire for doing so.
> The highest-profile example is Adobe. The company first started offering
> its
> subscription-based Creative Cloud service back in 2012. At that point,
> users
> could choose between buying individual apps, buying packages - or
> signing-up
> to a monthly or annual subscription.
> But just a year later, the company announced that it would no longer sell
> its Creative Suite software outright, and that the only way to get the
> latest versions would be via subscription. Even for apps you could still
> buy
> outright, you didn't get the same functionality as the subscription
> version.
> We're seeing the same trend everywhere. Right now, you can still buy
> individual TV shows and movies, but iTunes popularized the idea of renting
> them instead, and companies like Netflix take things further with a fixed
> monthly subscription for all-you-can-eat streaming access.
> And, of course, Apple Music now gives us the option of renting, rather than
> owning, our music.
>
> The idea of renting rather than owning isn't without its benefits, of
> course. Developers get a steady stream of income, which enables them to
> keep
> updating apps and adding new features, while users get access at a more
> affordable up-front cost.
> And for some apps and services, it makes sound financial sense. Take music
> as an example. Back in the days when the only option was to buy albums,
> many
> of us spent thousands - sometimes tens of thousands - of dollars over the
> years. A young person today can lay out ten bucks a month and get instant
> access to more music than any of us will ever own in our lifetimes. Having
> a
> $10 cost of entry to almost all the music commercially available is quite
> an
> incredible thing. If I were starting out today, I honestly don't know
> whether I'd choose to own any music.
> In software, Adobe was able to get away with it for much the same reason.
> Outright purchase of a suite of its apps could again cost thousands, and
> you
> knew it was only a matter of time before you'd need to pay to upgrade to
> the
> latest version. Indeed, many photographers found themselves forced to
> upgrade when they bought a new camera as the RAW converter for it would
> only
> be available for the latest version of Lightroom. An affordable monthly fee
> was a decent alternative.
> In TV and movies, renting rather than owning can again save you money. Many
> have dispensed with traditional TV packages, and buying movies outright,
> and
> instead pay just $8-12 per month for a Netflix subscription. Provided the
> shows you want are available, that's a great deal.
> Some people even effectively choose to rent their iPhone. In the old days,
> you did this as a hidden cost in your carrier's plan, now you can do it
> through Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program. That's again a way of turning a
> large lump-sum payment into a more manageable monthly one.
> But there are, I think, four reasons why many of us feel reluctant to
> switch
> from outright purchase of apps to a subscription model.
>
> The first is purely psychological. We're used to paying a one-off fee, with
> maybe an occasional and optional major update fee some years down the road,
> and that being it. The idea of instead being forced to lay out cash every
> month for continued access 

How to Stop News Alerts on iPad and iPhone Showing on Lock Screen

[M. Taylor]

OS X Daily - Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 11:49 AM
How to Stop News Alerts on iPad and iPhone Showing on Lock Screen
 
iOS Apple News defaults to pushing 'news' alerts and notifications to your
devices lock screen, this is why sometimes you may pick up an iPad or iPhone
and have various "News" notifications on the display, even if you never
signed up to receive any headlines or news alerts.
These breaking News alerts on the iOS lock screen are often a mishmash of
curious headlines on various topics, and while some users may find those
type of stories to be vitally important and love having them pushed to their
iPhone or iPad lock screens, other users may prefer to not have their device
screens scattered with miscellaneous headlines of stories they might be
disinterested in.
Fortunately it's easy to stop the News app from pushing those alerts and
notifications to your iOS device, thereby stopping all 'news' from appearing
on the lock screen of an iPad or iPhone completely.
How to Remove News Notifications from iPad and iPhone Lock Screen
We'll show you how to remove the News notification alerts from the lock
screen (or "cover sheet" as later iOS calls it), and also how to turn them
off completely device-wide, if you don't want to see the news alerts
anywhere ever again.
1.
Open the "Settings" app on the iPad or iPhone and go to "Notifications"

2.
Find and tap on "News" within the Notifications app list, then adjust
settings depending on the desired effect of hiding news from the lock
screen, or hiding news alerts entirely: 
To hide News from the iOS Lock Screen only (or "Cover Sheet" as the lock
screen is called in iOS 11), flip the toggle next to "Show on Cover Sheet"
or "Show on Lock Screen" to the OFF position
To hide all News notifications and alerts from everywhere in iOS, toggle the
switch next to "Allow Notifications" to the OFF position

3.
Exit out of Settings app as usual
With the News notifications now turned off (either for the cover sheet /
lock screen, or entirely disabled so the News app won't alert you
whatsoever) you are now free to lock your iPhone or iPad, then pick it up
again, and not have the display scattered with headlines.
As long as the Notifications are disabled for News app, these type of
notifications and headlines will no longer show up on your devices screen:
 
(I wonder, is there an intentional emphasis on tabloid style topics and
buzzy headlines to show up on iOS screens? Are the news headlines chosen at
random? What's the point?)
Another possible approach is to go about blocking and hiding news channels
and news sources in the News app that you don't want to see. But while
blocking news channels is a good solution to clean up the News app feed
itself, it's not as helpful if your aim is for stopping some of the
nonsensical alerts from showing up at the lock screen. That's because many
respectable and high quality publications also push out tabloid headlines
intermixed with their other news, and any of that may show up on the lock
screen of an iPad or iPhone.
Going further, if you're not thrilled with these sort of headlines and
"News" material dotting various places throughout iOS, you might also want
to remove News headlines from Spotlight search in iOS too so that the "News"
headlines will no longer appear in your iOS Spotlight search results as
well.
As usual, you can always reverse these changes simply by going back to the
appropriate Settings and toggling the switches again. So if you decide to
hide the "News" headlines but later determine you really miss seeing those
latest headlines on the iOS screen, you will be relieved to know those
alerts are just a few settings taps away again.

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Apple to spend $1bn on original content and produce up to 10 new shows over the next year, according to report

[M. Taylor]

9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 2:45 AM
Apple to spend $1bn on original content and produce up to 10 new shows over
the next year, according to report
 
Apple appears to be taking original content production very seriously.
Building on significant talent hires, the Wall Street Journal writes Apple
has readied a $1 billion budget to 'procure and produce' content over the
next year.
The report says the sum is about half what HBO spent on production last
year. Apple could launch up to ten new shows, with Apple SVP Eddy Cue said
to have ambitions to offer shows that rival Game of Thrones.
 
Apple's initial rounds of content have not been runaway successes, with
Planet of the Apps and Carpool Karaoke receiving bad-to-mild reviews from
critics. Reach of the shows has also been limited to users with Apple Music
subscriptions.
However, until recently, it didn't really feel like Apple was giving much
priority to original content efforts. With a large wallet and premiere
talent leading the video programming division, it is likely that the quality
of Apple's in-development programming will also be higher.
The report notes that Jamie Erlicht and Zack Van Amburg, the Sony veterans
Apple hired in June, started work in early August and have taken over video
production responsibilities from the Apple Music team. The execs have
already held meetings with Hollywood to find shows to acquire.
It isn't clear yet how the new shows will be released to customers. Apple
currently hosts Planet of the Apps and Carpool Karaoke on Apple Music, but
it seems likely that the company will double-down on a true, dedicated,
internet TV service with the new initiatives.
In terms of hardware, a new Apple TV set-top box is expected to launch later
this year with support for 4K output. The product could be announced as soon
as September, alongside the new iPhone and Apple Watch models.
 
Original Article at: 
http://9to5mac.com/2017/08/16/apple-original-content-1-billion-ten-shows/



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Opinion: Are subscription-based apps the future, or will they implode?

[M. Taylor]

9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 6:41 AM
Opinion: Are subscription-based apps the future, or will they implode?
 
The decision of the popular writing app Ulysses to switch from a one-off
purchase to a monthly or annual subscription has attracted a great deal of
criticism. Here's a sprinkling of views from the comments.
Subscribe to a text editor? I'm out.
I bought this on iOS last week. As far as I'm concerned, that was a total
waste of money now they're moving to this subscription model.
This "rent your software" crap needs to stop, and people need to stop
defending it.
Ulysses is a great app and I wish the developers all the best, but I'm out,
looking for alternatives.
Read: "Popular iOS and Mac writing app Ulysses Digs Its Own Grave and Gets
In"
The company, of course, has its own rationale .
 
We want to make sure the app will be around for years and years to come. We
want to heavily invest in its development, and this requires the right
setting for our team, our families and our users. Writers want to rely on a
professional tool that is constantly evolving, and we want to keep
delivering just that.
The company says that anyone who bought the app when it first launched has
now received nine major updates at no cost, and that this isn't sustainable.
And, of course, Ullysses isn't the only app to have switched to a
subscription model - nor the only company to come under fire for doing so.
The highest-profile example is Adobe. The company first started offering its
subscription-based Creative Cloud service back in 2012. At that point, users
could choose between buying individual apps, buying packages - or signing-up
to a monthly or annual subscription.
But just a year later, the company announced that it would no longer sell
its Creative Suite software outright, and that the only way to get the
latest versions would be via subscription. Even for apps you could still buy
outright, you didn't get the same functionality as the subscription version.
We're seeing the same trend everywhere. Right now, you can still buy
individual TV shows and movies, but iTunes popularized the idea of renting
them instead, and companies like Netflix take things further with a fixed
monthly subscription for all-you-can-eat streaming access.
And, of course, Apple Music now gives us the option of renting, rather than
owning, our music.
 
The idea of renting rather than owning isn't without its benefits, of
course. Developers get a steady stream of income, which enables them to keep
updating apps and adding new features, while users get access at a more
affordable up-front cost.
And for some apps and services, it makes sound financial sense. Take music
as an example. Back in the days when the only option was to buy albums, many
of us spent thousands - sometimes tens of thousands - of dollars over the
years. A young person today can lay out ten bucks a month and get instant
access to more music than any of us will ever own in our lifetimes. Having a
$10 cost of entry to almost all the music commercially available is quite an
incredible thing. If I were starting out today, I honestly don't know
whether I'd choose to own any music.
In software, Adobe was able to get away with it for much the same reason.
Outright purchase of a suite of its apps could again cost thousands, and you
knew it was only a matter of time before you'd need to pay to upgrade to the
latest version. Indeed, many photographers found themselves forced to
upgrade when they bought a new camera as the RAW converter for it would only
be available for the latest version of Lightroom. An affordable monthly fee
was a decent alternative.
In TV and movies, renting rather than owning can again save you money. Many
have dispensed with traditional TV packages, and buying movies outright, and
instead pay just $8-12 per month for a Netflix subscription. Provided the
shows you want are available, that's a great deal.
Some people even effectively choose to rent their iPhone. In the old days,
you did this as a hidden cost in your carrier's plan, now you can do it
through Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program. That's again a way of turning a
large lump-sum payment into a more manageable monthly one.
But there are, I think, four reasons why many of us feel reluctant to switch
from outright purchase of apps to a subscription model.
 
The first is purely psychological. We're used to paying a one-off fee, with
maybe an occasional and optional major update fee some years down the road,
and that being it. The idea of instead being forced to lay out cash every
month for continued access to an app feels somehow wrong. Many feel they are
being taken advantage of, especially if it's an app they've used for years
and come to rely on.
The second is the lifetime cost. I can't even remember now what I paid for
my three versions of Lightroom, but from memory the last one I bought -
Lightroom 3 - cost me about $150 back in 2011. I'm still using it today. If
I'd instead been paying $9.99/month, 

Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[lenron brown]

Same here well I will keep it on my wish list for now. The fact that I
will be able to get it directly from T-Mobile is a major plus.

On 8/16/17, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Lenron, you still should be able to.  Remember you can still connect back to
> the phone over bluetooth and with a 60 foot range or more that’s pretty
> useful.  Outside that you should be able to use the data channel for Skype
> or FaceTime.
>
> Most things on the watch are data driven anyway.  I like the idea in a way
> of just wearing the watch, no phone.
>
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 4:50 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>>
>> I was all excited about the damn watch because I figured I would be
>> able to make calls from it. I was for sure going to get one, hell even
>> if I am able to use it for facetime it still might be a go. I have
>> been hoping apple would make a watch where I didn't need the phone
>> around all the time.
>>
>> On 8/16/17, E.T.  wrote:
>>>Ask him.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 8/16/2017 11:05 AM, gary-melconian wrote:
 Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I
 really wonder wht in the hell tim cook is thinking.

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Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[Scott Granados]

Lenron, you still should be able to.  Remember you can still connect back to 
the phone over bluetooth and with a 60 foot range or more that’s pretty useful. 
 Outside that you should be able to use the data channel for Skype or FaceTime. 
 

Most things on the watch are data driven anyway.  I like the idea in a way of 
just wearing the watch, no phone.
 
> On Aug 16, 2017, at 4:50 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I was all excited about the damn watch because I figured I would be
> able to make calls from it. I was for sure going to get one, hell even
> if I am able to use it for facetime it still might be a go. I have
> been hoping apple would make a watch where I didn't need the phone
> around all the time.
> 
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>>Ask him.
>> 
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>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 8/16/2017 11:05 AM, gary-melconian wrote:
>>> Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I
>>> really wonder wht in the hell tim cook is thinking.
>>> 
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Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[Scott Granados]

Well actually Gary the features they leave out usually make sense including in 
this case.  Let’s review.

First, the HSPA. /3G wasn’t supported because the initial chipsets were awful.  
Also very little was deployed across the network.
Then LTE was with held until the 5, do you remember how bad the other 
LTE phones who were early were?  The HTC phones barely worked and had a 2 hour 
battery life, Sprint was using that really bad WIMAX standard, T-Mobile was all 
in on 3G and pushing HSPA+ heavily and there was a shortage of LTE chips.
Now in the case of the watch, there’s no good full featured LTE 
chip yet that includes VOLTE.  There’s also no mixed 3 and 4G chips that will 
fit in a watch.  In combination with this, where are you going to put the sim?  
By the time you have the tray and sim itself plus the slot you use up to much 
space not to mention increase the complexity of water proofing.  The E-SIM 
saves a lot of space for the actual LTE radio and modem hardware and you still 
have the full bluetooth channel back to your phone for placing calls. FaceTime 
or Skype would also likely be options over this high speed data channel but 
VOLTE isn’t included.O. (Qualcomm doesn’t have that included yet). So you have 
to build for the parts you can get access to and this year data only is the 
option.  Remember the phones all started out LTE data only at first as well, 
not just Apple but everyone.

Apple doesn’t put something in a phone or product until it really works, every 
time.  You might get more bleeding edge options in other brands but you get the 
instability to go with it.  Samsung is a good example of this with their 
restarts and history of cellular problems.  Samsung has good ability to field 
upgrade with software to correct these problems though but Apple is shooting 
for a stable error free but conservative experience.


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Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[lenron brown]

I was all excited about the damn watch because I figured I would be
able to make calls from it. I was for sure going to get one, hell even
if I am able to use it for facetime it still might be a go. I have
been hoping apple would make a watch where I didn't need the phone
around all the time.

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>> Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I
>> really wonder wht in the hell tim cook is thinking.
>>
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards

[Harry Bell]

Thanks! Practical advice!

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 19:51, Tom Frank  wrote:
> 
> I’m not certain about your keyboard, but try normal VO commands such as VO 
> spacebar two times for a double click. When I forget some of the commands, I 
> just keep my phone next to the keyboard and I can always reach over and do a 
> two finger double tap.  WWW; what Works Works.
> 
> Tom Frank
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been using my Rii mini Bluetooth keyboard (the one about the size of 
>> an iPhone 5s) for a few days now and it is certainly a cheap and handy way 
>> to navigate my iPhone on the hoof! I had never seen it till this week, so 
>> I'm unsure whether they've changed it or not. Below is a copy of their Quick 
>> Start Guide. The only keyboard shortcut I haven't worked out is the 
>> equivalent of a two finger double tap (for interacting with Facebook 
>> stories), so if anyone can tell me, I'd be grateful! 
>> Anyhow, here is the quick user guide (my sighted wife has stuck cut down 
>> orange locator dots on certain vital keys to help me find where I am on the 
>> keyboard!) :
>> Rll Mini Bluetooth Quick Start Guide Go Back to the Online Store Keyboard 
>> Description Place the keyboard in front of you on a flat surface, with the 
>> keys facing up, and the spacebar closest to you. In this position, a Mini 
>> USB port and a two-position power switch can be found on the left edge of 
>> the keyboard. Keys are slightly rounded for easy typing, and contain tactile 
>> markings on the letters F and J. When connected to the port on the left 
>> side, the included USB cable is used to charge the keyboard's internal 
>> battery. Charging takes approximately three hours via computer, or a 
>> standard USB AC wall adapter.. A complete charge lasts up to 50 hours, and 
>> the power switch on the left side can be used to turn the keyboard off when 
>> not in use to preserve battery life. The power switch is located behind the 
>> USB port on the left edge of the keyboard. Sliding it away from you, toward 
>> the back of the keyboard turns the power on, while sliding it toward you 
>> turns power off. Key descriptions http://www.speeddots.com/RiiManual.php 
>> Page 1 of 4
>> 
>> 
>> The top row of the keyboard contains a row of function keys which are also 
>> used to perform simultaneous media functions on many devices. They are 
>> listed as follows, from left to right: Backlight Home Command Mute Volume 
>> down Volume up Previous track Play/pause Next track Backspace/Delete The 
>> second row contains an Escape key on the far left, followed by numbers 1 
>> through 0. Many symbols and some punctuation marks can be written by using 
>> the shift key along with the numeric keys found in this row. The third row 
>> contains a Tab key, followed by letters Q through P Row four begins with a 
>> capslock key, the letters A through L, followed by semi-colon, and 
>> apostrophe, (which can also produce different symbols when pressed in 
>> conjunction with the shift or function key). Row five contains the Shift key 
>> to the left of the letter Z, and a Slash key to the right of the letter M, 
>> followed by Up-Arrow, and Enter. The bottom row begins with a long Function 
>> key, followed by Control, Option, equals, dash. Space, Down-Arrow, 
>> Left-Arrow, http://www.speeddots.com/RiiManual.php Page 2 of 4
>> 
>> 
>> and Right-arrow The Function key can be used to type some additional 
>> punctuation when pressed in conjunction with some letters and symbols on the 
>> keyboard. A few, frequently-used keyboard shortcuts are: Function plus Slash 
>> = Period Function plus M = Comma Shift plus Slash = Question Shift plus 
>> Semi-Colon = Colon Shift plus Apostrophe = Quote Notes on keyboard usage 
>> with iOS It is recommended that users become familiar with the keyboard in 
>> the Voiceover Practice Area, found on all iOS devices under settings, 
>> General, Accessibility, Voiceover. Pairing Instructions To pair the 
>> keyboard, make sure Bluetooth is turned on and that your device is ready to 
>> pair. (On the iPhone, navigate to settings general, Bluetooth, turn it on 
>> and wait for the keyboard to be detected as "Macro Keyboard". Slide the 
>> keyboard's power switch to on, then press the large, round pairing button 
>> located on the under-side of the keyboard and hold it for one second. When 
>> the keyboard is detected, navigate to "Macro Keyboard" and double-tap. You 
>> will be prompted to enter a provided, four digit pin code, and press enter. 
>> Because the command and option keys are so far apart, and because the 
>> keyboard at times has problems when holding down 
>> http://www.speeddots.com/RiiManual.php Page 3 of 4
>> 
>> 
>> three or more keys at once, it is strongly recommended that you use QuickNav 
>> mode. To turn QuickNav on, press the left and right arrows simultaneously, 
>> until you hear IOS speak "Quicknav on". 

Re: Bluetooth Keyboards

[Tom Frank]

I’m not certain about your keyboard, but try normal VO commands such as VO 
spacebar two times for a double click. When I forget some of the commands, I 
just keep my phone next to the keyboard and I can always reach over and do a 
two finger double tap.  WWW; what Works Works.

Tom Frank

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> I have been using my Rii mini Bluetooth keyboard (the one about the size of 
> an iPhone 5s) for a few days now and it is certainly a cheap and handy way to 
> navigate my iPhone on the hoof! I had never seen it till this week, so I'm 
> unsure whether they've changed it or not. Below is a copy of their Quick 
> Start Guide. The only keyboard shortcut I haven't worked out is the 
> equivalent of a two finger double tap (for interacting with Facebook 
> stories), so if anyone can tell me, I'd be grateful! 
> Anyhow, here is the quick user guide (my sighted wife has stuck cut down 
> orange locator dots on certain vital keys to help me find where I am on the 
> keyboard!) :
> Rll Mini Bluetooth Quick Start Guide Go Back to the Online Store Keyboard 
> Description Place the keyboard in front of you on a flat surface, with the 
> keys facing up, and the spacebar closest to you. In this position, a Mini USB 
> port and a two-position power switch can be found on the left edge of the 
> keyboard. Keys are slightly rounded for easy typing, and contain tactile 
> markings on the letters F and J. When connected to the port on the left side, 
> the included USB cable is used to charge the keyboard's internal battery. 
> Charging takes approximately three hours via computer, or a standard USB AC 
> wall adapter.. A complete charge lasts up to 50 hours, and the power switch 
> on the left side can be used to turn the keyboard off when not in use to 
> preserve battery life. The power switch is located behind the USB port on the 
> left edge of the keyboard. Sliding it away from you, toward the back of the 
> keyboard turns the power on, while sliding it toward you turns power off. Key 
> descriptions http://www.speeddots.com/RiiManual.php 
>  Page 1 of 4
> 
> 
> The top row of the keyboard contains a row of function keys which are also 
> used to perform simultaneous media functions on many devices. They are listed 
> as follows, from left to right: Backlight Home Command Mute Volume down 
> Volume up Previous track Play/pause Next track Backspace/Delete The second 
> row contains an Escape key on the far left, followed by numbers 1 through 0. 
> Many symbols and some punctuation marks can be written by using the shift key 
> along with the numeric keys found in this row. The third row contains a Tab 
> key, followed by letters Q through P Row four begins with a capslock key, the 
> letters A through L, followed by semi-colon, and apostrophe, (which can also 
> produce different symbols when pressed in conjunction with the shift or 
> function key). Row five contains the Shift key to the left of the letter Z, 
> and a Slash key to the right of the letter M, followed by Up-Arrow, and 
> Enter. The bottom row begins with a long Function key, followed by Control, 
> Option, equals, dash. Space, Down-Arrow, Left-Arrow, 
> http://www.speeddots.com/RiiManual.php 
>  Page 2 of 4
> 
> 
> and Right-arrow The Function key can be used to type some additional 
> punctuation when pressed in conjunction with some letters and symbols on the 
> keyboard. A few, frequently-used keyboard shortcuts are: Function plus Slash 
> = Period Function plus M = Comma Shift plus Slash = Question Shift plus 
> Semi-Colon = Colon Shift plus Apostrophe = Quote Notes on keyboard usage with 
> iOS It is recommended that users become familiar with the keyboard in the 
> Voiceover Practice Area, found on all iOS devices under settings, General, 
> Accessibility, Voiceover. Pairing Instructions To pair the keyboard, make 
> sure Bluetooth is turned on and that your device is ready to pair. (On the 
> iPhone, navigate to settings general, Bluetooth, turn it on and wait for the 
> keyboard to be detected as "Macro Keyboard". Slide the keyboard's power 
> switch to on, then press the large, round pairing button located on the 
> under-side of the keyboard and hold it for one second. When the keyboard is 
> detected, navigate to "Macro Keyboard" and double-tap. You will be prompted 
> to enter a provided, four digit pin code, and press enter. Because the 
> command and option keys are so far apart, and because the keyboard at times 
> has problems when holding down http://www.speeddots.com/RiiManual.php 
>  Page 3 of 4
> 
> 
> three or more keys at once, it is strongly recommended that you use QuickNav 
> mode. To turn QuickNav on, press the left and right arrows simultaneously, 
> until you hear IOS speak "Quicknav on". Press these keys again to toggle the 
> setting to off. 

Re: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[E.T.]

   Ask him.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/16/2017 11:05 AM, gary-melconian wrote:

Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I really 
wonder wht in the hell tim cook is thinking.



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RE: Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

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Tersting that aple is always taking out  features from the devices. I really 
wonder wht in the hell tim cook is thinking. 

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Apple Watch 3 to use E-SIm for LTE, phone calling not supported

[Scott Granados]

Interesting article about the cellular connection that will be added to the 
Apple Watch 3.   Looks like an LTE and non LTE version will be available.  No 
direct phone calling support but no reason SIP or other IP based calling 
solutions (FaceTime) won’t work.  Read more here.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/16/kgi-apple-watch-lte-esim-phone/?pushup=1

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards

[Harry Bell]

I have been using my Rii mini Bluetooth keyboard (the one about the size of an 
iPhone 5s) for a few days now and it is certainly a cheap and handy way to 
navigate my iPhone on the hoof! I had never seen it till this week, so I'm 
unsure whether they've changed it or not. Below is a copy of their Quick Start 
Guide. The only keyboard shortcut I haven't worked out is the equivalent of a 
two finger double tap (for interacting with Facebook stories), so if anyone can 
tell me, I'd be grateful! 
Anyhow, here is the quick user guide (my sighted wife has stuck cut down orange 
locator dots on certain vital keys to help me find where I am on the keyboard!) 
:
Rll Mini Bluetooth Quick Start Guide Go Back to the Online Store Keyboard 
Description Place the keyboard in front of you on a flat surface, with the keys 
facing up, and the spacebar closest to you. In this position, a Mini USB port 
and a two-position power switch can be found on the left edge of the keyboard. 
Keys are slightly rounded for easy typing, and contain tactile markings on the 
letters F and J. When connected to the port on the left side, the included USB 
cable is used to charge the keyboard's internal battery. Charging takes 
approximately three hours via computer, or a standard USB AC wall adapter.. A 
complete charge lasts up to 50 hours, and the power switch on the left side can 
be used to turn the keyboard off when not in use to preserve battery life. The 
power switch is located behind the USB port on the left edge of the keyboard. 
Sliding it away from you, toward the back of the keyboard turns the power on, 
while sliding it toward you turns power off. Key descriptions 
http://www.speeddots.com/RiiManual.php Page 1 of 4


The top row of the keyboard contains a row of function keys which are also used 
to perform simultaneous media functions on many devices. They are listed as 
follows, from left to right: Backlight Home Command Mute Volume down Volume up 
Previous track Play/pause Next track Backspace/Delete The second row contains 
an Escape key on the far left, followed by numbers 1 through 0. Many symbols 
and some punctuation marks can be written by using the shift key along with the 
numeric keys found in this row. The third row contains a Tab key, followed by 
letters Q through P Row four begins with a capslock key, the letters A through 
L, followed by semi-colon, and apostrophe, (which can also produce different 
symbols when pressed in conjunction with the shift or function key). Row five 
contains the Shift key to the left of the letter Z, and a Slash key to the 
right of the letter M, followed by Up-Arrow, and Enter. The bottom row begins 
with a long Function key, followed by Control, Option, equals, dash. Space, 
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and Right-arrow The Function key can be used to type some additional 
punctuation when pressed in conjunction with some letters and symbols on the 
keyboard. A few, frequently-used keyboard shortcuts are: Function plus Slash = 
Period Function plus M = Comma Shift plus Slash = Question Shift plus 
Semi-Colon = Colon Shift plus Apostrophe = Quote Notes on keyboard usage with 
iOS It is recommended that users become familiar with the keyboard in the 
Voiceover Practice Area, found on all iOS devices under settings, General, 
Accessibility, Voiceover. Pairing Instructions To pair the keyboard, make sure 
Bluetooth is turned on and that your device is ready to pair. (On the iPhone, 
navigate to settings general, Bluetooth, turn it on and wait for the keyboard 
to be detected as "Macro Keyboard". Slide the keyboard's power switch to on, 
then press the large, round pairing button located on the under-side of the 
keyboard and hold it for one second. When the keyboard is detected, navigate to 
"Macro Keyboard" and double-tap. You will be prompted to enter a provided, four 
digit pin code, and press enter. Because the command and option keys are so far 
apart, and because the keyboard at times has problems when holding down 
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three or more keys at once, it is strongly recommended that you use QuickNav 
mode. To turn QuickNav on, press the left and right arrows simultaneously, 
until you hear IOS speak "Quicknav on". Press these keys again to toggle the 
setting to off. To select items in QuickNav mode, press the up and down arrows 
at the same time; this is comparable to double tapping on an item to select it. 
Additional Resources Voiceover Keyboard Commands A CD containing drivers for 
Windows Mobile, Symbian, and Android is also included for those wishing to use 
the keyboard on other devices. To listen to an in-depth review of this 
keyboard, check out the Blind Geek Zone Podcast: 
http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio.htm Go Back to the Online Store 
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> On 9 Aug 2017, at 10:37, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Great,