RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

Big Smile.

I completely understand.  

If it's any consolation, please know that I only have use of this iPHone X for 
one more day, only, as it is a loaner unit.  (smile)

You're right about one thing, though, sometimes it really is best to go to an 
Apple Store and try your luck.

I have a friend who both orders his new devices on-line and goes to the store.  
If he gets the unit at the store, then he simply cancels his online order.  Now 
that's dedication to a mission, eh?  (big smile)

Hang in there.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 12:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
Users, Beware

Mark,

 I'll say this now,

 I no longer think you’re a nice guy!

I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
units to fill all preorder requests 

 I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, 
Beware

Hello All,

Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.

I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
exactly how to position the front-facing camera.

Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
and off, countless times during the day.  

On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
was located in the bottom center of the phone.  

However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
of the device.  

I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, really 
a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  

Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am having 
to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in a 
slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
finger on my left hand.  

I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.

In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am leaning 
towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the triple-click 
button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is currently the case 
on iPHone X.

If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
grateful.  

What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  

Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)

Mark


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Join Me in Reporting Twitter for iOS v7.11 VoiceOver Bug: Search and Explore Area Now Completely Inaccessible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

As of the latest Twitter for iOS app, v7.11, released today, the Search and
Explore area is now completely inaccessible via VoiceOver.

Please join me in reporting this issue.

The following is the review I posted in the App Store.  You are welcome to
use any or all of it in your feedback to Twitter:

[BEGIN REVIEW]
[SUBJECT]:
Search and Explore Area of App Now Completely Inaccessible to the Visually
Impaired via VoiceOver

[BODY]:
In the latest release of Twitter for iOS (v7.11), the Search and Explore
area of the app is now completely inaccessible to the visually impaired via
VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low
vision.

I am so very disappointed that this issue has not yet been resolved.  

I am posting this review as a means of requesting that the Twitter
developers address this problem as soon as possible.

Thank you,
[END REVIEW]

Here is my tweet on this issue:
[BEGIN TWEET]:
N #iOS @Twitter v7.11 app, SearchAndExplore area now completely inaccessible
to the #VisuallyImpaired, via #VoiceOver. Please fix. @Support
[END TWEET]:

The following is the text of the feedback I submitted via Twitter's feedback
tool, which has a 500-character limit:
[BEGIN FEEDBACK]
In the latest release of Twitter for iOS (v7.11), the Search and Explore
area is now completely inaccessible to the visually impaired, via VoiceOver.
Please fix as soon as possible.
[END FEEDBACK]

Post your request in the App Store, as a review, send a tweet to both
@support and @Twitter, and Submit feedback to Twitter via the feedback form
located at:
https://support.twitter.com/forms/feature_report?feature=tweets.

Thank you and I'll see you on Twitter, @MarkMarcus.

Mark


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Re: You Tube downloader?

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
I just ran youtube-dl from the terminal to extract mp3.
You don’t need homebrew to install it.  The terminal command looks something 
like:
youtube-dl —extract-audio —audio-format mp3 url

You can get the url by  going into youtube in safari,
locating the desired song,
use the copy link in the shortcut menu
and paste it into the terminal command with cmd+v

HTH
Chris
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> You can find info at:
> https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ 
> You can install it with Homebrew.
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
> Services for the Blind
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Where can I find info about youtube dl?
>> Peace,   
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>>  
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, that’s good. I looked at Downy, and I think I’ll just stick with 
>>> Youtube-dl. Far less expensive.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
>>> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
>>> Services for the Blind
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:31 PM, E.T. > wrote:
 
   Downie will do this. I have not installed the app yet but the site 
 states that you can do this.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . ..
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it" --Carl Sagan
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 
 On 11/5/2017 12:09 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> Do any of these allow one to download only the audio of the video?
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
> Services for the Blind
>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Jürgen Fleger > > >> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert, Chuck and Andrew,
>> thanks for your great ideas. Really helpful.
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 26.10.2017 um 17:31 schrieb Robert Cole >> >> >>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Lately, I have been pressing command R To reload the page when a add 
>>> starts to play, then my video will start.
>>> I haven’t had any trouble so far.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Jürgen Fleger >> wrote:
 
 OK, thanks for the responds.
 What I don’t like about the You Tube site are the ads at the 
 beginning. I know I somehow could skip them but acutally I’m not sure 
 which would be the best way to find the skip button quickly. Do you 
 have a good strategy for this?
 Jürgen
 
> Am 26.10.2017 um 13:56 schrieb jeff `greene   >>:
> 
> Hi, No I don't think so. I always just find a video I want to keep on
> youtube and then copy its url. Then I paste the url into softorino
> youtube converter and it starts downloading. You can also download the
> video as an mp3 file too.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 10/26/17, Jürgen Fleger   >> wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>> are you able to search and preview the video before downloading it 
>> using
>> Softorino?
>> Thanks Jürgen
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 25.10.2017 um 20:35 schrieb jeff `greene >> >> >>:
>>> 
>>> Hi E.T.
>>> I use an app called softorino youtube converter. You bring it up and
>>> have a blank edit field. You paste the web address of a youtube 
>>> video
>>> in the field then tab to 1080p 720p etc. At the bottom of the 

RE: Carbon Copy Cloner

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

awesome. Can make a bootable backup.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

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On Behalf Of Lee Jones
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 5:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Carbon Copy Cloner

Dear List, I have been having issues with time machine.  It just wiped my 
capsule for no apparent reason.  I have heard good things about carbon copy 
cloner in the past.  Is it still accessible?  How does the functionality differ 
from time machine?

Many Thanks, Lee

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Fwd: Bug in iOS 11.1: unable to drag apps into a folder that is located in the iPhone dock; Follow-up: 677131812

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
I got this from Apple accessibility today. I thought it could be of interest to 
folks.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Apple Accessibility 
> Date: November 6, 2017 at 2:13:24 PM PST
> To: motte...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Bug in iOS 11.1: unable to drag apps into a folder that is 
> located in the iPhone dock; Follow-up: 677131812
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> Thank you for writing to Apple Accessibility. In our testing, we were able to 
> drop an app in a folder on the dock by using the following steps:
> After starting Edit Mode, select the app to be dragged and select the Drag 
> option
> Navigate to the folder on the dock and select the Activate action to open the 
> folder
> If the folder opens to a blank page, swipe right with three fingers to 
> navigate back to the first page of apps within the folder
> Select the location for the app and choose the Drop option.
> 
> We recognize that this behavior is different from how items are dropped in 
> folders that are not on the dock. We will report this issue to the 
> appropriate team.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Apple Accessibility 
> 
>> On November 02, 2017 at 13:15:34 PM GMT, motte...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Using voiceover on and I OS 11.1 iPhone 7 Plus, I am not able to drag 
>> applications into a folder if that folder is in the dock. If I move the 
>> folder from the dock onto the screen, that is whatever page I’m on, I can 
>> then move apps into that folder and then move the folder back into the dock. 
>> But while the folder is in the dock, I cannot move apps to it. This is true 
>> for all folders, not just one strange one.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 

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Re: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

[Phil Halton]

I don’t know why you need a hardware button for turning invert colors on and 
off. I do this quite regularly using Siri. I simply say invert colors on, or 
invert colors off, and Siri executes the setting change. Sent from my IPhone


> On Nov 6, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I hope to have my I phone X on the 24th.  I normally hold an I phone in my 
> left hand and control the I phone with my right.  I don't know when that will 
> be the same when I get my I phone.
> 
> I am really looking forward to no Touch ID as I use to use windows mobile HTC 
> and that didn't have a home button.  I had to get use to a home button and 
> thought it was a waste of space.  So I am unusual.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 08:13, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> I'll say this now,
>> 
>> I no longer think you’re a nice guy!
>> 
>> I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
>> units to fill all preorder requests 
>> 
>> I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
>> Users, Beware
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.
>> 
>> I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
>> gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a 
>> breeze to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to 
>> see exactly how to position the front-facing camera.
>> 
>> Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature 
>> on and off, countless times during the day.  
>> 
>> On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
>> was located in the bottom center of the phone.  
>> 
>> However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right 
>> side of the device.  
>> 
>> I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, 
>> really a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  
>> 
>> Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am 
>> having to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in 
>> a slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
>> finger on my left hand.  
>> 
>> I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach 
>> the button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.
>> 
>> In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need 
>> more time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am 
>> leaning towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the 
>> triple-click button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is 
>> currently the case on iPHone X.
>> 
>> If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
>> learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
>> grateful.  
>> 
>> What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
>> manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
>> example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the 
>> user could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  
>> 
>> Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[E.T.]

   Turns out not to be the Apple TV. iTunes 12.7 is not seeing my 
content, none of it. Its all there but its not associating the content 
with my library. I tested buy moving some home videos then copying back 
to the Automatically Add folder. That works.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/6/2017 2:47 PM, David Griffith wrote:
I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time 
to time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across 
devices. For example my Windows machine and my Mac.


Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the 
machines to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow 
response may be a symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.


Maybe 24 hours will sort it.

David Griffitgh

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

*From: *E.T. 
*Sent: *06 November 2017 16:12
*To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


*Subject: *Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

     Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also

went into preferences to select the new location. The library is

available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,

still not working.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .

    "God for you is where you sweep away all the

    mysteries of the world, all the challenges to

    our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off

    and say God did it." --Carl Sagan

E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

 > My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing 
iTunes to the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when 
launching iTunes.  This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  
I pointed the location path to my external USB drive and I made sure it 
took which it did.  One important note to bear in mind.  When setting up 
your location you want to work it so that the path is exactly like what 
you see below.


 >

 >   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub 
folder path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To 
give you the path example I myself am using:


 >

 > External Data/External Music/iTunes

 >

 > HTh.

 >

 >

 > Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for 
the blind:


 >

 > Sincerely,

 >

 > The constantly barefooted Ray

 >

 >> On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

 >>

 >> Hello E.T.,

 >>

 >> I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my 
iTunes media I:


 >>

 >> 1.

 >> Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by 
selecting a few items and playing them back on my computer.


 >>

 >> 2.

 >> Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.

 >>

 >> 3.

 >> Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then 
rebooting Apple TV.


 >>

 >> After that, all worked as expected.

 >>

 >> Mark

 >>

 >> -Original Message-

 >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.


 >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM

 >> To: MacVisionaries

 >> Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library

 >>

 >> Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external 
drive. I pointed iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I 
get "no content in this library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing 
is on. I can see the content on the Mac. What am I missing?


 >>

 >>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .

 >>    "God for you is where you sweep away all the

 >>    mysteries of the world, all the challenges to

 >>    our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off

 >>    and say God did it." --Carl Sagan

 >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

[E.T.]

   Carbon Copy Cloner 5 is accessible. You can try it for 30 days free. 
Its not the easiest but its worth the time and effort.


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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/6/2017 3:29 PM, Lee Jones wrote:

Dear List, I have been having issues with time machine.  It just wiped my 
capsule for no apparent reason.  I have heard good things about carbon copy 
cloner in the past.  Is it still accessible?  How does the functionality differ 
from time machine?

Many Thanks, Lee



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Carbon Copy Cloner

[Lee Jones]

Dear List, I have been having issues with time machine.  It just wiped my 
capsule for no apparent reason.  I have heard good things about carbon copy 
cloner in the past.  Is it still accessible?  How does the functionality differ 
from time machine?

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Re: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I hope to have my I phone X on the 24th.  I normally hold an I phone in my left 
hand and control the I phone with my right.  I don't know when that will be the 
same when I get my I phone.

I am really looking forward to no Touch ID as I use to use windows mobile HTC 
and that didn't have a home button.  I had to get use to a home button and 
thought it was a waste of space.  So I am unusual.

Kawal.

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 08:13, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I'll say this now,
> 
> I no longer think you’re a nice guy!
> 
> I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
> units to fill all preorder requests 
> 
> I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
> Users, Beware
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.
> 
> I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
> gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
> to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
> exactly how to position the front-facing camera.
> 
> Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
> and off, countless times during the day.  
> 
> On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
> was located in the bottom center of the phone.  
> 
> However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
> of the device.  
> 
> I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, 
> really a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  
> 
> Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am 
> having to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in 
> a slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
> finger on my left hand.  
> 
> I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
> button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.
> 
> In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
> time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am 
> leaning towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the 
> triple-click button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is 
> currently the case on iPHone X.
> 
> If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
> learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
> grateful.  
> 
> What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
> manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
> example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
> could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  
> 
> Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)
> 
> Mark
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RE: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[David Griffith]

I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time to 
time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across devices. For 
example my Windows machine and my Mac.
Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the machines 
to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow response may be a 
symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.
Maybe 24 hours will sort it.
David Griffitgh

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From: E.T.
Sent: 06 November 2017 16:12
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also 
went into preferences to select the new location. The library is 
available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box, 
still not working.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
> My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes 
> to the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching 
> iTunes.  This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed the 
> location path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it did.  
> One important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location you want 
> to work it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.
> 
>   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
> path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the 
> path example I myself am using:
> 
> External Data/External Music/iTunes
> 
> HTh.
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello E.T.,
>>
>> I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
>> media I:
>>
>> 1.
>> Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a few 
>> items and playing them back on my computer.
>>
>> 2.
>> Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.
>>
>> 3.
>> Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting 
>> Apple TV.
>>
>> After that, all worked as expected.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library
>>
>> Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external drive. I 
>> pointed iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I get "no content 
>> in this library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing is on. I can see the 
>> content on the Mac. What am I missing?
>>
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Counting my Money

[E.T.]

Ramy,
   Have you tried the Numbers app from Apple? Its got several budget 
templates which are available to start a budget.


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On 11/6/2017 2:04 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

can not u Recommend one?


On 11/6/17, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Check the app store for budgeting or budget apps. The app would allow you
to enter your incomes, add your bank accounts, track receipts and calculate

your spending. It would also show you where you can save money, what your
total regular monthly bills are, and lots of other information about your
finances. Hope this helps,


On November 6, 2017 2:58:50 AM Ramy Moustafa 
wrote:


Hi Dear:
Thanks so much
but this is not my question.
am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the
month.

Do you know any app that can do this?

Thanks so much for your interest



On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.

I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money Reader,
in
the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it almost
everyday.


If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Counting my Money

Hello all:

I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing
money.
I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to
write
if I did anything without my laptop with me.

THanks in advance.


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Re: Counting my Money

[Ramy Moustafa]

can not u Recommend one?


On 11/6/17, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> Check the app store for budgeting or budget apps. The app would allow you
> to enter your incomes, add your bank accounts, track receipts and calculate
>
> your spending. It would also show you where you can save money, what your
> total regular monthly bills are, and lots of other information about your
> finances. Hope this helps,
>
>
> On November 6, 2017 2:58:50 AM Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dear:
>> Thanks so much
>> but this is not my question.
>> am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the
>> month.
>>
>> Do you know any app that can do this?
>>
>> Thanks so much for your interest
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> Hello Ramy,
>>>
>>> Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.
>>>
>>> I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money Reader,
>>> in
>>> the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it almost
>>> everyday.
>>>
>>>
>>> If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:09 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Counting my Money
>>>
>>> Hello all:
>>>
>>> I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing
>>> money.
>>> I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
>>> so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
>>> also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to
>>> write
>>> if I did anything without my laptop with me.
>>>
>>> THanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ramy MoustafaSaber
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>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>>> Harmony Recording Studio
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Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[E.T.]

   Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also 
went into preferences to select the new location. The library is 
available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box, 
still not working.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes to 
the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching iTunes.  
This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed the location 
path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it did.  One 
important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location you want to work 
it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.

  External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the path 
example I myself am using:

External Data/External Music/iTunes

HTh.


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray


On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello E.T.,

I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
media I:

1.
Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a few 
items and playing them back on my computer.

2.
Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.

3.
Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting Apple 
TV.

After that, all worked as expected.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library

Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external drive. I pointed 
iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I get "no content in this 
library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing is on. I can see the content on the 
Mac. What am I missing?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an 
iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumours has the story. 

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, you are correct with respect to the identical twins aspect of this 
> feature, although photos, masks and such have no bearing in this process as 
> the identification process is a 3D process, therefore, 2D photos are 
> immaterial.  This can be affirmed in the same article you partially posted.  
> My main point is that we need to be careful when posting opinions of 
> potential, unproven deficiencies.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36, Robin  wrote:
> 
> No, I,Robin do NOT have any Proof that Apple's TouchID is More or Less Secure 
> than its NEW FaceID
> Although
> I have Heard News that Identical Twins Privacy & Security is More Secure with 
> TouchID as Opposed to its FaceID based on Early Reports  of Apple's FaceID on 
> its ForthComing Anniversary Eidition of the iPhone, the iPhoneX (Pronounced 
> iPhone10)
> 
> People  don't have the Same FingerPrints, but Photos  or Faces can be 
> Identical as IN Identical Twins
> 
> I,Robin Learned through MyStudy of Forensics (Forensic Science) that 
> FringerPrints  Vary from 1 Individual TO Another (Individual)
> At 08:30 AM 11/1/2017, you wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> do you have some credible source to support your belief about the level of 
>> security of a Face ID vs a finger-print sensor?  I'm not sure if one is 
>> actually more secure than the other, just another method to do things.  As 
>> I've mentioned a few times before, when the finger-print sensor was first 
>> introduced on the iPhone, there was tons of noise made about it's probable 
>> lack of security compared to the good old pass-code.  Now that we've had it 
>> for a while, many people are making it sound like it's the best thing yet 
>> and anything new won't do.  We are all welcome to our opinions, but I 
>> believe that it is beneficial to base these opinions on sound research, 
>> rather than hear-say.  You may be right in the end, I'm really not sure, but 
>> I haven't seen anything but arm-chair opinions so far.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 00:05, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Why do you Beleive Apple's Face ID is SO Secure because Apple Says So?
>> Personally, I Beleive
>> Touch ID is More Secure & Gives Users More Security & Privacy than Apple's 
>> Face ID
>> 
>> Would Apple  go Away from The Norm & Keep its iPhoneX special by  Having it 
>> be the ONLY iPhone to come Equipped With Face ID  for a Couple of Years to 
>> Justify the Price?
>> Probably Not
>> At 10:59 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Facial recog is more secure than finger prints in this products case.
>>> 
>>> But yes an identical twin would be required and then I believe may still 
>>> struggle.
>>> 
>>> I'll be surprised if someone doesn't crack the facial recognition some time 
>>> soonn as they did pretty quickly with samsungs galaxy s8 version of it.
>>> Which I believe is only retinal scan. Or was it iris scanning.
>>> 
>>> But either way,
>>> If the looking directly at the phone / screen feature is auto disabled if 
>>> vo is active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen there may 
>>> be an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone camera.
>>> To me this is a forward thought.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:56 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 
>>> hours - CNET
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the 
>>> eye contact feature is still very secure.  You basically need to be a twin 
>>> to be able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read.  When 
>>> the finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there was quite 
>>> a bit of noise made about possible security flaws, and now we're touting it 
>>> as more secure than Face ID.  I'm just not confident in many of these 
>>> opinions out there.  Joe Public just doesn't have the in-depth data 
>>> required to do a proper assessment of its true security risks.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 17:32, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The thing that makes me sad is that Apple, by all accounts, including 
>>> theirs, is abandoning touch ID completely on the phone. The security issue 
>>> is specifically if you disable that part of face id that requires you to 
>>> actually look at the phone. I think I read that this will be off by default 

Re: Installing High Sierra in a language other than English

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
When hi sierra updates it comes in swedish and it uses my default voice.
I haven’t done a clean install so i might try that to see if this is something 
that may happen with the swedish version too.
/A

> 6 nov. 2017 kl. 08:45 skrev Anne Robertson :
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Recently, I did a clean install of High Sierra on our MacBook that we use for 
> teaching macOS. The installation was done entirely in French on a machine 
> that has always run in French.
> Throughout the installation process, the only voice available was Fred.
> For prrevious versions of Mac OS X, as soon as the language was selected, the 
> voice switched to French.
> Is this happening for other languages too, or is this just another case of 
> Apple France simply not caring about VoiceOver users?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: Counting my Money

[Erik Burggraaf]

Check the app store for budgeting or budget apps. The app would allow you 
to enter your incomes, add your bank accounts, track receipts and calculate 
your spending. It would also show you where you can save money, what your 
total regular monthly bills are, and lots of other information about your 
finances. Hope this helps,



On November 6, 2017 2:58:50 AM Ramy Moustafa  wrote:


Hi Dear:
Thanks so much
but this is not my question.
am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the month.

Do you know any app that can do this?

Thanks so much for your interest



On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.

I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money Reader, in
the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it almost everyday.


If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.

Mark

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Subject: Counting my Money

Hello all:

I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing money.
I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to write
if I did anything without my laptop with me.

THanks in advance.


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Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[Raymond Foret Jr]

My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes to 
the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching iTunes.  
This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed the location 
path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it did.  One 
important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location you want to work 
it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.

 External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder path 
if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the path 
example I myself am using:

External Data/External Music/iTunes

HTh.


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello E.T.,
> 
> I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
> media I:
> 
> 1.
> Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a few 
> items and playing them back on my computer.
> 
> 2.
> Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.
> 
> 3.
> Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting 
> Apple TV.
> 
> After that, all worked as expected.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library
> 
>Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external drive. I 
> pointed iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I get "no content 
> in this library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing is on. I can see the 
> content on the Mac. What am I missing?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

[Simon Fogarty]

Mark,

 I'll say this now,

 I no longer think you’re a nice guy!

I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
units to fill all preorder requests 

 I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.

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Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, 
Beware

Hello All,

Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.

I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
exactly how to position the front-facing camera.

Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
and off, countless times during the day.  

On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
was located in the bottom center of the phone.  

However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
of the device.  

I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, really 
a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  

Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am having 
to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in a 
slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
finger on my left hand.  

I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.

In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am leaning 
towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the triple-click 
button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is currently the case 
on iPHone X.

If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
grateful.  

What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  

Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)

Mark


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RE: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

[Simon Fogarty]

Bummer,

 Oh well, worth a try.

Although a pain in the ass,
Have you thought about reinstalling from scratch.

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Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 6:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks 
and interrupt continuous reading

Simon,
Finally got to this and it did not work.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/3/2017 8:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> HI ET,
> 
> Just a crazy thought,
> But would like to know what happens.
>   Kind of reverse psychology for Mac OS.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 2:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden 
> but talks and interrupt continuous reading
> 
>  Ok I can try that and see. Be a while before I can do it but will report 
> back shortly.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/2/2017 5:28 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> ET,
>>
>> Crazy thought but what if you enable the require password restart 
>> your machine a couple of times and then disable it again, Fooling the 
>> machine in to the situation tim has now.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Friday, 3 November 2017 6:01 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden 
>> but talks and interrupt continuous reading
>>
>> Tim,
>>   I do not have the require password enabled. I have tried other 
>> settings to no avail.
>>
>>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 11/2/2017 7:53 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In my testing, my MBP is set to require a password after screen-lock or 
>>> screen saver.  I'm not sure if those of you where it's not working have it 
>>> set the same.  I will turn that feature off and see what happens to me.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2017, at 08:30, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Shawn,
>>>
>>> We'll have to compare even more notes.  There's got to be some settings, or 
>>> combination of settings that will work for others like it seems to have for 
>>> me.  I've tested it in a few different scenarios and I've eliminated it on 
>>> my MBP.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 22:34, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tim. After having Voiceover read the Applevis Newsletter, I found out 
>>> that trick doesn't work on my computer.
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>
 On Nov 1, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

 Hi All,

 I may have a fix for now.  It has worked for me in two different 
 scenarios.  In the VO Utility, under the Web category, make sure that the 
 "Enable Live Regions" checkbox is not checked.  This seems to allow VO to 
 remain speaking for an extended length of time.  During this testing, I 
 had my MBP set that the computer never goes to sleep, and that the display 
 would go to sleep after one minute.  I had it read a long, boring legal 
 document on school fees and VO read the entire document, then after one 
 minute of silence, the Login Panel spoke.  I also tested it with a rather 
 long explanation of security, authentication and authorization within the 
 base level of the MacOS.  After about 10 minutes, the Login Panel had not 
 reared its ugly head.  Of course, if you use the Live Regions in web-pages 
 often, this isn't a good fix, but for now, it has worked for me.

 Any others who wish to try this workaround/fix are welcome to do so and 
 post results here.  I realize that just because it worked for me, it does 
 not always mean that it will work for others in all 

Re: Removing items from facebook on the mac.

[Andrew Lamanche]

Yes, it is possible.  You have to find the button or link which says something 
about recent activities. This should be somewhere in your personal home page 
area.  Then by navigating using vo+arrow keys, you should find the recent posts 
with a button that says collapseed after each post.  Activate it and you should 
be able to vo+up and down arrow keys find the delete option.

I have no time to check this now as I have to go out but if you fail, give us a 
shout and I will try to be more specific.

Andrew

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I wrote a very stupid thing on facebook today and i really want to get rid of 
> that message.
> Is this possible with voiceover on the mac or with the Iphone or Ipad?
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RE: Very Urgent help, Can not update my phone when he asked for Itunes

[Simon Fogarty]

Yesyou can download through your computer,
But as for then being able to access the IOS installer No I don't believe you 
can off your harddrive.

Yes Plug your computer in to your phone or vise virsa  and you can do an update 
of the IOS system via itunes 

It can be quicker because itunes on the computer can download it faster.

I would still look at doing the update through the phones wifi connection so 
long as your wifi is stabe.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Sunday, 5 November 2017 8:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very Urgent help, Can not update my phone when he asked for Itunes

Hi Simon:

As I told you, I am not thei one who wake my Iphone6, I went to Apple and they 
did this.
but I think  that they were having the system on there HD or something ,  
Because eit took less than 20 minutes.
and my phone was updated.
So, is it possible that we can download the IOS system on our hard drives to 
install it if needed, without getting it from the App store each time, if 
somehitn ghappened?



On 11/3/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Ramy,
>
> That's interesting that the apple store didn't run the 11.1 update for you.
>
> Personally I'd run the update but will it happen again only the phone 
> will know,
>
>  Don't do it through itunes just do it on your phone
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
> Sent: Friday, 3 November 2017 12:16 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very Urgent help, Can not update my phone when he asked 
> for Itunes
>
> Hi Tim and Simon:
>
> THank sso much for your help.
> all my attempts did not do anything.
> so I went to the Apple store, and they made the update in  20 minutes, 
> and my Phone came to live.
> do not know the difference, because I tried making the update.
> but they did  and now, it tern back to 11.03,.
> don't know if I will update to ios11.1, will it happen again or what?
>
> But Thanks so much for your help
>
>
>
> On 11/2/17, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> Hi Simon:
>> frankly , I didn't try this, but the Update issue did not solve the 
>> situation, don not know if this is a way, after that, to make my 
>> ITunes know my Pass code,  so, it I will never happen again?
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> Hi Ramy,
>>>
>>> No it's not possible to make itunes speak for your iPhone interface.
>>>
>>>  Question.
>>>  Have you anything on the iPhone that you can't replace or should I 
>>> say don't wish to lose?
>>>
>>>  If not then what I would suggest is a full restore of the IOS 
>>> version of the device.
>>>
>>>  To do this unplug your phone from itunes on your computer.
>>>
>>>  I assume the phone is an iPhone 6s or earlier may be you need to 
>>> correct me if that is not correct.
>>>
>>>  With the phone you need to completely shut the device down.
>>>
>>> Then as you plug the cable back in to your computer with it 
>>> connected to your phone you have to be holding down the home button 
>>> and power button at the same time,
>>>
>>>  Keep holding the power and home buttons  until you get the alert on 
>>> your computer that you need to restore yor phone
>>>
>>> Then follow the prompts on the itunes screen,
>>>
>>>  This shouldn't ask you for your pin code but once you have the 
>>> phone reimaged you can set it up from scratch And once you enter a 
>>> wifi network connection it will tell you it is connected to an 
>>> itunes account and to please enter the account email address and 
>>> password to unlock it.
>>>
>>> That is a worst case situation but is an option.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>>> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2017 4:38 AM
>>> To: mac mailing list 
>>> Subject: Re: Very Urgent help, Can not update my phone when he asked 
>>> for Itunes
>>>
>>> Hi tim:
>>> Thanks so much for this, but  can not i force my Iphone to speak 
>>> through iTunes? i mean, any option or something to do this/
>>>
 On Nov 1, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

 Hi,

 Try turning up the volume to see if VO is actually starting but 
 just not being heard.  It should have VO abilities at this point.  
 The other thing to do is to ask your sighted friend to enter your 
 pass-code for now.
 This
 should get you past that barrier, then you can change your 
 pass-code later after you get things up and running.

 Later...

 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Nov 1, 2017, at 07:39, Ramy Moustafa 
 wrote:

 Hi all:
 please please, i need a very very urgent help.

Re: Very Urgent help, Can not update my phone when he asked for Itunes

[Ramy Moustafa]

Aha, I see, Thanks so much for this


On 11/6/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi Ramy,
>
> the basic answer is n"No".   There are ways using Caching content and such
> that will allow for very fast downloads locally.  When using Caching content
> features, the update is downloaded to the Caching computer, then when the
> subsequent requests are made for that update/download, it is downloaded from
> the content computer within your network.  This process makes the download
> extremely quick since it is coming from something on the local network as
> opposed to somewhere off on the Web.  I suspect that's what was going on in
> your case.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 01:23, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>
> Hi Simon:
>
> As I told you, I am not thei one who wake my Iphone6, I went to Apple
> and they did this.
> but I think  that they were having the system on there HD or something
> ,  Because eit took less than 20 minutes.
> and my phone was updated.
> So, is it possible that we can download the IOS system on our hard
> drives to install it if needed, without getting it from the App store
> each time, if somehitn ghappened?
>
>
>
> On 11/3/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> Hi Ramy,
>>
>> That's interesting that the apple store didn't run the 11.1 update for
>> you.
>>
>> Personally I'd run the update but will it happen again only the phone
>> will
>> know,
>>
>> Don't do it through itunes just do it on your phone
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>> Sent: Friday, 3 November 2017 12:16 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Very Urgent help, Can not update my phone when he asked for
>> Itunes
>>
>> Hi Tim and Simon:
>>
>> THank sso much for your help.
>> all my attempts did not do anything.
>> so I went to the Apple store, and they made the update in  20 minutes,
>> and
>> my Phone came to live.
>> do not know the difference, because I tried making the update.
>> but they did  and now, it tern back to 11.03,.
>> don't know if I will update to ios11.1, will it happen again or what?
>>
>> But Thanks so much for your help
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/17, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> Hi Simon:
>>> frankly , I didn't try this, but the Update issue did not solve the
>>> situation, don not know if this is a way, after that, to make my
>>> ITunes know my Pass code,  so, it I will never happen again?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/2/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 Hi Ramy,

 No it's not possible to make itunes speak for your iPhone interface.

 Question.
 Have you anything on the iPhone that you can't replace or should I
 say don't wish to lose?

 If not then what I would suggest is a full restore of the IOS
 version of the device.

 To do this unplug your phone from itunes on your computer.

 I assume the phone is an iPhone 6s or earlier may be you need to
 correct me if that is not correct.

 With the phone you need to completely shut the device down.

 Then as you plug the cable back in to your computer with it connected
 to your phone you have to be holding down the home button and power
 button at the same time,

 Keep holding the power and home buttons  until you get the alert on
 your computer that you need to restore yor phone

 Then follow the prompts on the itunes screen,

 This shouldn't ask you for your pin code but once you have the phone
 reimaged you can set it up from scratch And once you enter a wifi
 network connection it will tell you it is connected to an itunes
 account and to please enter the account email address and password to
 unlock it.

 That is a worst case situation but is an option.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
 Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2017 4:38 AM
 To: mac mailing list 
 Subject: Re: Very Urgent help, Can not update my phone when he asked
 for Itunes

 Hi tim:
 Thanks so much for this, but  can not i force my Iphone to speak
 through iTunes? i mean, any option or something to do this/

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Try turning up the volume to see if VO is actually starting but just
> not being heard.  It should have VO abilities at this point.  The
> other thing to do is to ask your sighted friend to enter your
> pass-code for now.
> This
> should get you past that barrier, then you can change your pass-code
> later after you get things up and running.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB