Re: UEB and other commands using the Focus new Gen on the I phone.

[David Chittenden]

In UEB, for at sign, it is dot 4 followed by dot 1.

Kind regards,

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> On 17 Feb 2018, at 09:07, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hello All. 
> 
> I have been using my new generation Focus 40 for just over a week now.
> 
> I have a few questions to ask regarding UEB as I normally write in UEB these 
> days as I can't remember the Standard English Braille Code although that is 
> what I grew up with!
> 
> Anyway, I have noticed that some of the operations have changed with this new 
> Focus, as before I could do Chord e for new line. Now this doesn't seem to 
> work and instead I am pressing dot 8 for a new line.
> 
> However, this is not the case when you want to send a message, as new line 
> sends the message. So how can I do new line which doesn't send the message?
> 
> Also if I want to put the at sign in, how would one do this,  as I use to do 
> dot four a for the at sign but that is not the case and so I am just pressing 
> dot 4. Each time I press dots 2 5 6 it says DD rather than the full stop. 
> 
> i hope that you David will reply although I am happy for anyone to reply to 
> me.
> 
> thank you.
> 
> Kawal.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Lol Simon. That was good. In all seriousness though, has anyone tried turning 
off and on both Siri and dictation? I hear that supposedly any issue you've had 
with those two things should clear up after toggling them on and off.

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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> That's it,
> Siri is sexest!
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 4:50 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?
> 
> Ha!  You sound like my husband. He swears that Siri hates him.
> 
> This is interesting. I always got very good results from Siri until switching 
> to the iPhone X. Given that this phone supposedly has better hardware and a 
> faster processor, it makes no sense that dictation results would worsen. But 
> that has certainly been my experience.
> Eileen, I’m somewhat relieved to hear that you are having a similar 
> experience. At least that makes it sound like it’s the phone rather than 
> something that I am doing.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 9:41 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because, 
>> I keep having to repeat messages at times.
>> 
>>> On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while 
>>> there is a real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using an 
>>> iPhone X.
>>> I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is 
>>> incredibly slow.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the 
 recognition is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time 
 correcting dictation than I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone 
 else--either using a X or not--has noticed the same thing?
 Cheers,
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Okay, I have to Admit It, HomePod Is The Best

[M. Taylor]

I promise I won't flood the list with these kinds of posts but I have to
admit that I found myself doing something this evening that I haven't done
in over 10 years.  I actually sat in my living room, with a hardcopy Braille
novel and enjoyed listening to my music on my HomePod, in front of my
fireplace.  The sound was so pleasant that I can actually see myself doing
this on a regular basis.  

During the past 10 years I've purchased over 10 Bluetooth speakers and none
have compelled me to just sit and listen and read.  In fact, I ended up
giving all of them away but not this time.  

Regardless of the lack of AI skills, the sound alone is definitely worth the
400+ dollars I paid for the device.  

Okay, no more unsolicited testimonials' from me.   

My only regret is that I cannot have all of you, my brothers and sisters,
here, so we can experience these beautiful moments, together.

Sincerely,

Mark


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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Eric Oyen]

you aren't the only one. even simple sentences have been bolloxed badly. I have 
seen changes in pronouns, had entire words appear that I didn't speak and even 
had one sentence get badly mangled.
It's gotten so that I have to use a bluetooth keyboard to compose messages, 
Facebook posts and even tweets.

-eric
On Feb 16, 2018, at 5:25 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition is 
> absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than I ever 
> used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or not--has noticed 
> the same thing?
> Cheers,
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RE: Getting HomePod to See iCloud Account After Rebooting Phone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

Yes, I have an iPhone 8 Plus.

I do not need to reboot my phone, I choose to reboot it based on my activity 
throughout the day.  

Strangely enough, today, HomePod detects the device without using the Wi-Fi 
on/off method, described in my previous post.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting HomePod to See iCloud Account After Rebooting Phone

Hi Mark,

Haven't you got an iPhone 8 or +

That to me sounds extremely odd have you had to reboot your phone prior to the 
home pod being added in to the network?

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Subject: Getting HomePod to See iCloud Account After Rebooting Phone

Hello Everyone,

For various reasons, I reboot my iPhone throughout the day, when at home.
After doing this, I find that HomePod cannot access the Personal Request 
feature saying that the HomePod needs to be on the same WiFi network at my 
iPhone.  

The only solution that consistently works to resolve this is to tell Siri, on 
my iPhone, is to turn off, then turn on Wifi.  This takes less than 2-seconds.  

Interesting.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Mark

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   Would someone happen to have a DBT Win 11.x installation file from 
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Here is The Link to the HomePod User Guide

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Here is the link to the HomePod user guide:

http://help.apple.com/homepod/

Mark

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Re: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

[Daniel Miller]

What you guys need to realize is, Apple intended the speaker to be smart in 
terms of the spatial awareness capabilities. Meaning it sounds great no matter 
where you place it. Yes, I think we all would like Siri to be smarter, but 
that’s not their vision for the speaker.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 6:48 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I would rather buy some nice equipment than spend my money on a home
> pod. Seriously come on I want a smart speaker not a speaker that
> pretends to be smart, and only gives me really good audio.
> 
>> On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> It seems like entirely too many people are falling for the nonsense in the
>> tech press which is basically saying that the HomePod is meant to compete
>> with cheap devices like the echo. It isn’t. It is marketed to people who are
>> in the apple ecosystem want really good sound and don’t want to screw around
>> with extra devices etc. I don’t own one. I might get a stereo pair at some
>> point, but not now. I like the fact that you can get it and try it and if
>> you don’t like it, take it back. Depending on what Apple eventually does as
>> far as opening it up to other apps like Spotify, and how the whole airplay
>> thing works out, it could be a really good set up. I have aging big stereo
>> equipment. So this is an attractive looking deal for me in the hopefully not
>> too distant future. I would never consider replacing my good equipment with
>> anything like an Amazon echo. Just not.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not really laughing here but
>>> 
>>> Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards
>>> rather than forwards
>>> 
>>> If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going
>>> amazon echo if anything
>>> 
>>> Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:12 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge
>>> 
>>> HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg
>>> 
>>> Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and
>>> it turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside
>>> from its lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the
>>> HomePod can damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including
>>> Wirecutter and Pocket Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of
>>> wooden surfaces can cause a white ring to form.
>>> 
>>> Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can
>>> improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood
>>> surface," with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the
>>> surface with the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white
>>> rings don't fade.
>>> 
>>> Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters
>>> fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the
>>> sound), it's not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a
>>> cloth underneath it, either.
>>> 
>>> Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it
>>> secretes a deadly acid that destroys your furniture
>>> https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medi
>>> um=social&utm_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
>>> pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .
>>> 
>>> Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod,
>>> explaining that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a
>>> vibration-dampening silicone base to leave mild marks when placed on some
>>> wooden surfaces." According to the support page, the marks are apparently
>>> caused by "oils diffusing between the silicone base and the table
>>> surface." In addition to the previous stated advice about hoping the marks
>>> go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also said for customers who are
>>> concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod on a
>>> different surface."
>>> 
>>> Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing
>>> the HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from
>>> Apple's official support page for the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> Original Article at:
>>> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
>>> te-ring-wooden-table-staining-issue-problem
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Re: HomePod question

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

It's a little more complicated than that.  I can have two speakers, each 
playing the same channel, thus it is not stereo sound.  In true stereo sound, 
the left and right speakers play different audio and are synchronized to make 
things sound like they come out of one, the other or both.

Later...
]
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 16, 2018, at 14:17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

I thought stereo sound would be a hardware thing rather  than a software thing.

2 speakers give you stereo 

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True stereo sound is coming in a software update soon.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> If memory serves, something I read said that the HomePod can't do stereo 
> sound the way the Sonos speakers can.  Does anyone know if that is a hardware 
> or software limitation?  I was thinking about picking up a HomePod this 
> weekend, but eventually having the ability to have stereo sound would be 
> important to me, so if it's a hardware issue, I'd probably be better off 
> waiting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

[lenron brown]

I would rather buy some nice equipment than spend my money on a home
pod. Seriously come on I want a smart speaker not a speaker that
pretends to be smart, and only gives me really good audio.

On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> It seems like entirely too many people are falling for the nonsense in the
> tech press which is basically saying that the HomePod is meant to compete
> with cheap devices like the echo. It isn’t. It is marketed to people who are
> in the apple ecosystem want really good sound and don’t want to screw around
> with extra devices etc. I don’t own one. I might get a stereo pair at some
> point, but not now. I like the fact that you can get it and try it and if
> you don’t like it, take it back. Depending on what Apple eventually does as
> far as opening it up to other apps like Spotify, and how the whole airplay
> thing works out, it could be a really good set up. I have aging big stereo
> equipment. So this is an attractive looking deal for me in the hopefully not
> too distant future. I would never consider replacing my good equipment with
> anything like an Amazon echo. Just not.
> Mary
>
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> I'm not really laughing here but
>>
>> Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards
>> rather than forwards
>>
>> If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going
>> amazon echo if anything
>>
>> Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:12 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge
>>
>> HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg
>>
>> Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and
>> it turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside
>> from its lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the
>> HomePod can damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including
>> Wirecutter and Pocket Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of
>> wooden surfaces can cause a white ring to form.
>>
>> Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can
>> improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood
>> surface," with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the
>> surface with the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white
>> rings don't fade.
>>
>> Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters
>> fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the
>> sound), it's not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a
>> cloth underneath it, either.
>>
>> Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it
>> secretes a deadly acid that destroys your furniture
>> https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medi
>> um=social&utm_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
>> pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .
>>
>> Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod,
>> explaining that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a
>> vibration-dampening silicone base to leave mild marks when placed on some
>> wooden surfaces." According to the support page, the marks are apparently
>> caused by "oils diffusing between the silicone base and the table
>> surface." In addition to the previous stated advice about hoping the marks
>> go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also said for customers who are
>> concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod on a
>> different surface."
>>
>> Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing
>> the HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from
>> Apple's official support page for the HomePod.
>>
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
>> te-ring-wooden-table-staining-issue-problem
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Re: Mark on HomePod

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I don't understand why you would want a mouse pad. I am waiting for the next 
generation of Home Pod. I don't want an echo speaker as I like my Apple stuff 
although one of these days I might get an ;El Braille although this is just a 
aought rather than I want!

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Feb 2018, at 9:06 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> A mouse pad, good thought however what about vibration?
> 
> What ever happened to inch long spikes off the bottom of the speaker to stand 
> them on the floor?
> 
> I remember years ago bying speakers that I had to put inch long spikes into 
> the base of that then stopped them moving and kept them off the carpet 
> 
> 
> And they'd only leave little dint like akes in the table top also.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Friday, 16 February 2018 3:11 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mark on HomePod
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, first let me thank you for your replies.  I really do enjoy a good 
> technology discussion.
> 
> Second, today I went to my local Apple Store and purchased the space gray 
> HomePod.  
> 
> What I found interesting is that, at this location, anyway, they were really 
> pushing the device.  In fact, the sale rep stated several times, "Well, buy 
> it and if you don't like it, just bring it back."  I was a bit surprised at 
> this.  
> 
> It wasn't just him for as I browsed through the store, many of the sales reps 
> were talking to people and expressing the same sentiment.  In fact, their 
> somewhat pushy demeanor almost turned me off my purchase but, as I did not 
> have a digital assistant, I decided to add HomePod to my Apple family of 
> products.  
> 
> As for the ring residue problem?  I purchased a 3-dollar mouse pad to place 
> under the unit.  
> 
> I'm looking forward to unboxing HomePod and taking it for a spin, this 
> weekend.
> 
> Mark
> 
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UEB and other commands using the Focus new Gen on the I phone.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

 Hello All. 

I have been using my new generation Focus 40 for just over a week now.

I have a few questions to ask regarding UEB as I normally write in UEB these 
days as I can't remember the Standard English Braille Code although that is 
what I grew up with!

Anyway, I have noticed that some of the operations have changed with this new 
Focus, as before I could do Chord e for new line. Now this doesn't seem to work 
and instead I am pressing dot 8 for a new line.

However, this is not the case when you want to send a message, as new line 
sends the message. So how can I do new line which doesn't send the message?

Also if I want to put the at sign in, how would one do this,  as I use to do 
dot four a for the at sign but that is not the case and so I am just pressing 
dot 4. Each time I press dots 2 5 6 it says DD rather than the full stop. 

i hope that you David will reply although I am happy for anyone to reply to me.

thank you.

Kawal.  

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Re: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Simon,

Yep, that's what i thought.  Thanks.
Best,
Donna

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> From memory illustrator is a vector graphics based application,
> In most cases adobe aren't blind friendly but I wondered about OCR over 
> illustrator?
> 
> A pain in the A but worth having a look at.
> I also wondered what other formats illustrator can save to as that would give 
> another option but as it's graphical it's probably not going to be friendly.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Yes. I don’t know why they want to use illustrator. The document is largely 
> text. But that is the preferred software in this case.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> Do you mean adobe illustrator?
>> 
>> I thought it was mainly images based / drawing related  
>> 
>> Donna have you got a document I can have a look at?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 6:52 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the accessibility of documents 
>> that are composed in illustrator? If they are not inherently accessible, is 
>> there a way to render them accessible?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Tim,

That's pretty much what I was afraid of.  Adobe doesn't concern itself much 
with accessibility.  Well, thanks for letting me know.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Most apps within the Adobe Creative Suite are not very accessible at all.  
> Adobe uses a ton of custom elements that do not allow VO to hook on to.  I 
> have been on their case about some things, but I don't have a big enough 
> impact on them.  There may have been some improvements lately that I haven't 
> learned of, but I fairly sure that you'll find them mostly inaccessible.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:52, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the accessibility of documents 
> that are composed in illustrator? If they are not inherently accessible, is 
> there a way to render them accessible?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Switching Between Mac and Windows

[E.T.]

   I think that may be what I will need to do, turn VO off when I want 
to work in the VM. I agree, its not easy.


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On 2/16/2018 12:52 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

I know when I last really used vm fusion and mac os I found it easier to work 
in the vm with vo off and then vo on command tab to the mac os side to work 
there.

They don't make it easy for us is what I've found.

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Subject: Switching Between Mac and Windows

 Windows 7 VM under Fusion. I need to switch between applications on both 
platforms to compare data. I cannot navigate in the Windows app in either 
single or unity view. I had to stop for now but wonder if this will work in 
full screen mode. I have been having trouble with getting dumped out of the VM, 
perhaps hitting a wrong key. What is the secret for this? Thanks.

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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[Donna Goodin]

Well, he’s obviously your best source of information. That’s too bad.
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
> 
> I am in New York.  I sent my Vario Connect in and traded emails with
> David Bradburn.  He offered to sell me an old used display with only
> USB support.  Otherwise he suggested I look into a display from HIMS,
> Humanware, or VFO.
> 
>> On 2/16/18, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> Eric,
>> 
>> You might hold off on that braille edge. I have used both, and the quality
>> of the barrio is far superior!!! My understanding is that they are making
>> arrangements for devices to be supported. They said nothing about what that
>> would look like, other than it is not expected that people will have to sit
>> send their devices out of the country. Were are you, I would hold off and
>> see what support options you might have. Just my two cents.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Eric Brinkman 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I own a VarioConnect with a dead USB port.  It cannot be fixed because
>>> of this, so I am having to buy a Braille Edge.  This is very
>>> disappointing as the build quality of the display was topnotch.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
 On 2/16/18, E.T.  wrote:
   That is why its on my wish list. My Braille Edge is developing some
 bad cells but still usable.
 
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> On 2/16/2018 11:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned.
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be
>>> permanently closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent
>>> company
>>> in Germany declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple
>>> related, but wanted to post it to the list in case there are users of
>>> the Vario ultra with their max or iPhones who are not on the bomb
>>> user
>>> list. I believe that there will be instructions forthcoming on how to
>>> have bomb products serviced in the future, but they have not been
>>> released yet. I will share with the list when it is available.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi Donna.
Yes, I got the same news on the VarioUltra list that Baum USA would be closing 
this afternoon. Very sad news for sure. 😞 The VarioUltra has been one of the 
best and most reliable braille displays I have ever used. I use it all the time 
at work and it's great with my iPhone too. Now I'm wondering what will happen 
if this display will still be supported in the future? Guess we'll have to wait 
and find out.
Thanks for posting this.
Katie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
> 
> I own a VarioConnect with a dead USB port.  It cannot be fixed because
> of this, so I am having to buy a Braille Edge.  This is very
> disappointing as the build quality of the display was topnotch.
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On 2/16/18, E.T.  wrote:
>>That is why its on my wish list. My Braille Edge is developing some
>> bad cells but still usable.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 2/16/2018 11:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
   Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
> On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be
> permanently closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company
> in Germany declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple
> related, but wanted to post it to the list in case there are users of
> the Vario ultra with their max or iPhones who are not on the bomb user
> list. I believe that there will be instructions forthcoming on how to
> have bomb products serviced in the future, but they have not been
> released yet. I will share with the list when it is available.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[Eric Brinkman]

I am in New York.  I sent my Vario Connect in and traded emails with
David Bradburn.  He offered to sell me an old used display with only
USB support.  Otherwise he suggested I look into a display from HIMS,
Humanware, or VFO.

On 2/16/18, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> Eric,
>
> You might hold off on that braille edge. I have used both, and the quality
> of the barrio is far superior!!! My understanding is that they are making
> arrangements for devices to be supported. They said nothing about what that
> would look like, other than it is not expected that people will have to sit
> send their devices out of the country. Were are you, I would hold off and
> see what support options you might have. Just my two cents.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Eric Brinkman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I own a VarioConnect with a dead USB port.  It cannot be fixed because
>> of this, so I am having to buy a Braille Edge.  This is very
>> disappointing as the build quality of the display was topnotch.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>> On 2/16/18, E.T.  wrote:
>>>That is why its on my wish list. My Braille Edge is developing some
>>> bad cells but still usable.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>
 On 2/16/2018 11:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned.
 Donna

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>
>   Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
>> On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be
>> permanently closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent
>> company
>> in Germany declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple
>> related, but wanted to post it to the list in case there are users of
>> the Vario ultra with their max or iPhones who are not on the bomb
>> user
>> list. I believe that there will be instructions forthcoming on how to
>> have bomb products serviced in the future, but they have not been
>> released yet. I will share with the list when it is available.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

[Mary Otten]

It seems like entirely too many people are falling for the nonsense in the tech 
press which is basically saying that the HomePod is meant to compete with cheap 
devices like the echo. It isn’t. It is marketed to people who are in the apple 
ecosystem want really good sound and don’t want to screw around with extra 
devices etc. I don’t own one. I might get a stereo pair at some point, but not 
now. I like the fact that you can get it and try it and if you don’t like it, 
take it back. Depending on what Apple eventually does as far as opening it up 
to other apps like Spotify, and how the whole airplay thing works out, it could 
be a really good set up. I have aging big stereo equipment. So this is an 
attractive looking deal for me in the hopefully not too distant future. I would 
never consider replacing my good equipment with anything like an Amazon echo. 
Just not.
Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I'm not really laughing here but 
> 
> Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards rather 
> than forwards 
> 
> If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going amazon 
> echo if anything 
> 
> Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:12 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge
> 
> HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg
> 
> Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and it 
> turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside from its 
> lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the HomePod can 
> damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including Wirecutter and 
> Pocket Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of wooden surfaces can 
> cause a white ring to form. 
> 
> Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can 
> improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood 
> surface," with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the 
> surface with the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white rings 
> don't fade. 
> 
> Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters 
> fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the sound), 
> it's not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a cloth 
> underneath it, either. 
> 
> Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it secretes 
> a deadly acid that destroys your furniture 
> https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medi
> um=social&utm_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
> pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .
> 
> Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod, explaining 
> that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a vibration-dampening silicone 
> base to leave mild marks when placed on some wooden surfaces." According to 
> the support page, the marks are apparently caused by "oils diffusing between 
> the silicone base and the table surface." In addition to the previous stated 
> advice about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also 
> said for customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing 
> your HomePod on a different surface."
> 
> Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing the 
> HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from 
> Apple's official support page for the HomePod. 
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
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RE: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

>From memory illustrator is a vector graphics based application,
 In most cases adobe aren't blind friendly but I wondered about OCR over 
illustrator?

A pain in the A but worth having a look at.
I also wondered what other formats illustrator can save to as that would give 
another option but as it's graphical it's probably not going to be friendly.

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On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

Hi Simon,

Yes. I don’t know why they want to use illustrator. The document is largely 
text. But that is the preferred software in this case.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Do you mean adobe illustrator?
> 
> I thought it was mainly images based / drawing related  
> 
> Donna have you got a document I can have a look at?
> 
> 
> 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the accessibility of documents 
> that are composed in illustrator? If they are not inherently accessible, is 
> there a way to render them accessible?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Simon,

Yes. I don’t know why they want to use illustrator. The document is largely 
text. But that is the preferred software in this case.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Do you mean adobe illustrator?
> 
> I thought it was mainly images based / drawing related  
> 
> Donna have you got a document I can have a look at?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 6:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the accessibility of documents 
> that are composed in illustrator? If they are not inherently accessible, is 
> there a way to render them accessible?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Getting HomePod to See iCloud Account After Rebooting Phone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

Haven't you got an iPhone 8 or +

That to me sounds extremely odd have you had to reboot your phone prior to the 
home pod being added in to the network?

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Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 8:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting HomePod to See iCloud Account After Rebooting Phone

Hello Everyone,

For various reasons, I reboot my iPhone throughout the day, when at home.
After doing this, I find that HomePod cannot access the Personal Request 
feature saying that the HomePod needs to be on the same WiFi network at my 
iPhone.  

The only solution that consistently works to resolve this is to tell Siri, on 
my iPhone, is to turn off, then turn on Wifi.  This takes less than 2-seconds.  

Interesting.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Mark

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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[Donna Goodin]

Eric,

You might hold off on that braille edge. I have used both, and the quality of 
the barrio is far superior!!! My understanding is that they are making 
arrangements for devices to be supported. They said nothing about what that 
would look like, other than it is not expected that people will have to sit 
send their devices out of the country. Were are you, I would hold off and see 
what support options you might have. Just my two cents.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
> 
> I own a VarioConnect with a dead USB port.  It cannot be fixed because
> of this, so I am having to buy a Braille Edge.  This is very
> disappointing as the build quality of the display was topnotch.
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On 2/16/18, E.T.  wrote:
>>That is why its on my wish list. My Braille Edge is developing some
>> bad cells but still usable.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 2/16/2018 11:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
   Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
> On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be
> permanently closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company
> in Germany declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple
> related, but wanted to post it to the list in case there are users of
> the Vario ultra with their max or iPhones who are not on the bomb user
> list. I believe that there will be instructions forthcoming on how to
> have bomb products serviced in the future, but they have not been
> released yet. I will share with the list when it is available.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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RE: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

Do you mean adobe illustrator?

I thought it was mainly images based / drawing related  

Donna have you got a document I can have a look at?



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Subject: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the accessibility of documents 
that are composed in illustrator? If they are not inherently accessible, is 
there a way to render them accessible?
Thanks,
Donna

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RE: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Simon Fogarty]

That's it,
Siri is sexest!



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Ha!  You sound like my husband. He swears that Siri hates him.

This is interesting. I always got very good results from Siri until switching 
to the iPhone X. Given that this phone supposedly has better hardware and a 
faster processor, it makes no sense that dictation results would worsen. But 
that has certainly been my experience.
Eileen, I’m somewhat relieved to hear that you are having a similar experience. 
At least that makes it sound like it’s the phone rather than something that I 
am doing.
Cheers,
Donna

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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 9:41 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because, 
> I keep having to repeat messages at times.
> 
>> On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while 
>> there is a real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using an 
>> iPhone X.
>> I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is 
>> incredibly slow.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the 
>>> recognition is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time 
>>> correcting dictation than I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone 
>>> else--either using a X or not--has noticed the same thing?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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RE: HomePod question

[Simon Fogarty]

I thought stereo sound would be a hardware thing rather  than a software thing.

2 speakers give you stereo 

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True stereo sound is coming in a software update soon.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> If memory serves, something I read said that the HomePod can't do stereo 
> sound the way the Sonos speakers can.  Does anyone know if that is a hardware 
> or software limitation?  I was thinking about picking up a HomePod this 
> weekend, but eventually having the ability to have stereo sound would be 
> important to me, so if it's a hardware issue, I'd probably be better off 
> waiting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[Eric Brinkman]

I own a VarioConnect with a dead USB port.  It cannot be fixed because
of this, so I am having to buy a Braille Edge.  This is very
disappointing as the build quality of the display was topnotch.

Eric

On 2/16/18, E.T.  wrote:
> That is why its on my wish list. My Braille Edge is developing some
> bad cells but still usable.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
> On 2/16/2018 11:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned.
>> Donna
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>>Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.
>>>
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>
 On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hi all,
 I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be
 permanently closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company
 in Germany declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple
 related, but wanted to post it to the list in case there are users of
 the Vario ultra with their max or iPhones who are not on the bomb user
 list. I believe that there will be instructions forthcoming on how to
 have bomb products serviced in the future, but they have not been
 released yet. I will share with the list when it is available.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Mark on HomePod

[Simon Fogarty]

A mouse pad, good thought however what about vibration?

What ever happened to inch long spikes off the bottom of the speaker to stand 
them on the floor?

I remember years ago bying speakers that I had to put inch long spikes into the 
base of that then stopped them moving and kept them off the carpet 


And they'd only leave little dint like akes in the table top also.

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Subject: Mark on HomePod

Hello Everyone,

Well, first let me thank you for your replies.  I really do enjoy a good 
technology discussion.

Second, today I went to my local Apple Store and purchased the space gray 
HomePod.  

What I found interesting is that, at this location, anyway, they were really 
pushing the device.  In fact, the sale rep stated several times, "Well, buy it 
and if you don't like it, just bring it back."  I was a bit surprised at this.  

It wasn't just him for as I browsed through the store, many of the sales reps 
were talking to people and expressing the same sentiment.  In fact, their 
somewhat pushy demeanor almost turned me off my purchase but, as I did not have 
a digital assistant, I decided to add HomePod to my Apple family of products.  

As for the ring residue problem?  I purchased a 3-dollar mouse pad to place 
under the unit.  

I'm looking forward to unboxing HomePod and taking it for a spin, this weekend.

Mark


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RE: Location of data on a hard drive

[Simon Fogarty]

And then how does the fusion drive work then?

 Is the data closer to the middle or the edge of a fusion drive?

Trick question by the way.

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Sent: Friday, 16 February 2018 8:49 AM
To: Tim Kilburn 
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Location of data on a hard drive


I think it is the oppisite.  THe read/wright speed at the rim is fastest.  It 
has to be faster at the rim to cover for example 90 degrees of rotation then a 
point at the center for the same 90 degrees.

My thinking was that if there are some things for which I want fastestt 
read/write speeds it would be from the 2nd partition if it is created closer to 
the edge of a platter, assuming a single one in a hard drive.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't have specs to confirm, but my understanding is that the OS is stored 
> the inner most and data beyond that.  This is to give the drive the quickest 
> access to the system files when needed.  Since the first partition contains 
> your MacOS, then this behaviour should be maintained.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 20:23, dan d.  wrote:
>
> Hello listers,
>
>
> I have a 1t mac hardrive which I split into two partitions.
>
> With the first partition containing the os and other data is the data stored 
> nearer the center or the edge of a platter?.
>
> How is this os location affected if there are multiple platters?
>
> Thanks.
>

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RE: Switching Between Mac and Windows

[Simon Fogarty]

I know when I last really used vm fusion and mac os I found it easier to work 
in the vm with vo off and then vo on command tab to the mac os side to work 
there.

They don't make it easy for us is what I've found.

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Subject: Switching Between Mac and Windows

Windows 7 VM under Fusion. I need to switch between applications on both 
platforms to compare data. I cannot navigate in the Windows app in either 
single or unity view. I had to stop for now but wonder if this will work in 
full screen mode. I have been having trouble with getting dumped out of the VM, 
perhaps hitting a wrong key. What is the secret for this? Thanks.

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RE: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

[Simon Fogarty]

I'm not really laughing here but 

Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards rather 
than forwards 

If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going amazon 
echo if anything 

Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead 

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Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg

Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and it 
turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside from its 
lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the HomePod can 
damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including Wirecutter and Pocket 
Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of wooden surfaces can cause a 
white ring to form. 

Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can 
improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood surface," 
with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the surface with 
the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white rings don't fade. 

Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters fire 
down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the sound), it's 
not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a cloth underneath 
it, either. 

Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it secretes a 
deadly acid that destroys your furniture 
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medi
um=social&utm_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .

Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod, explaining 
that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a vibration-dampening silicone 
base to leave mild marks when placed on some wooden surfaces." According to the 
support page, the marks are apparently caused by "oils diffusing between the 
silicone base and the table surface." In addition to the previous stated advice 
about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also said for 
customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod 
on a different surface."

Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing the 
HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from Apple's 
official support page for the HomePod. 

Original Article at:
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
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RE: PDFReaderPro Free - How Do You ...

[Simon Fogarty]

What about the KNFB reader for the IOS devices?

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Hi,

According to the product info page in the App Store, it does not include OCR.  
It appears to be a good pdf reader app, but in my experience, if you wish to 
have OCR functionality, it will cost more than $10 to $20.  PDFPen does include 
this, but is around the $100 mark and there are likely others, but I know that 
PDFPen is accessible and does the trick.  The Mac version is very accessible, 
although the iOS version is not as accessible from a VO prospective.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 13, 2018, at 21:21, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Can anybody tell me, does the full version of PDF Reader Pro include an OCR 
component.  What about FinePDFReader?

I’m not in the mood to have to purchase multiple software packages to achieve 
one task.


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)



On Feb 13, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Tim Kilburn 
mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,

There needs to be an OCR option.  If there isn't one in this app, then you 
either need to use a different app with OCR built-in or use something like 
ABBYY Fine Reader to do the OCR part.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 13, 2018, at 14:08, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Can anyone using PDFReaderPro please offer some information as to how a person 
can, using the free version, convert a PDF Image document into a format that 
can be read via an app and VoiceOver.  I opened one of the documents I need to 
read and — using the menu procedure — attempted to export the file.  The only 
formatting choices I had were PDF and PDF Bundled.  I would have thought there 
would have been a text, Word and HTML options at the minimum.

Or, is this the feature that costs the $119.98?



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Thoughts on my new Homepod

[christopher hallsworth]

Good evening to the list.
Here are my thoughts on the new Homepod I received today after ordering it 
directly from the Apple online store yesterday.
I just cannot get over the sound quality. It's amazing! It actually sounds 
bigger than what the Homepod really is, a small, cylindrical but heavyweight 
speaker, weighing in at 2.5 KG (5.5 pounds). For a music speaker, the features 
are great. From what I have seen of Siri, it has done what I asked it too. But 
the feature I absolutely love is the ability to remotely control media playback 
from not only the iOS device that was used to set up Homepod, but also other 
iOS devices connected to the same wi-fi network as the Homepod,and even iTunes 
on your Mac and I assume PC, providing all devices are running the latest 
update, 11.2.5 or later on iOS, iTunes 12.7.3 or later for Mac and again I 
assume PC. I also tried Airplay, and that works like a charm. For me who wanted 
it as more of a music speaker rather than something equivalent of an Amazon 
Echo, it was worth every penny. Before I sign off, setup was a breeze on my 
iPhone 6s running iOS 11.2.5.
I would say if you are on the fence, do it! i don't think you will regret it.

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Re: Getting HomePod to See iCloud Account After Rebooting Phone

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi Mark,
Thanks for letting us know of this. I have enabled personal requests for now, 
but I only turn off my iPhone when I go to bed. I will therefore bear this in 
mind, but it is unlikely I will use the personal requests feature frequently. 
Again, thanks for letting us know.

> On 16 Feb 2018, at 19:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> For various reasons, I reboot my iPhone throughout the day, when at home.
> After doing this, I find that HomePod cannot access the Personal Request
> feature saying that the HomePod needs to be on the same WiFi network at my
> iPhone.  
> 
> The only solution that consistently works to resolve this is to tell Siri,
> on my iPhone, is to turn off, then turn on Wifi.  This takes less than
> 2-seconds.  
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?
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> Mark
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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[E.T.]

   That is why its on my wish list. My Braille Edge is developing some 
bad cells but still usable.


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On 2/16/2018 11:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned.
Donna

Sent from my iPhone


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   Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.

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Hi all,
I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be permanently 
closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company in Germany 
declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple related, but wanted to 
post it to the list in case there are users of the Vario ultra with their max 
or iPhones who are not on the bomb user list. I believe that there will be 
instructions forthcoming on how to have bomb products serviced in the future, 
but they have not been released yet. I will share with the list when it is 
available.
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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[lenron brown]

I have wanted one of those for a while now. sad news.

On 2/16/18, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned.
> Donna
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>>   Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.
>>
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>>> On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be
>>> permanently closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company
>>> in Germany declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple
>>> related, but wanted to post it to the list in case there are users of the
>>> Vario ultra with their max or iPhones who are not on the bomb user list.
>>> I believe that there will be instructions forthcoming on how to have bomb
>>> products serviced in the future, but they have not been released yet. I
>>> will share with the list when it is available.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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iOS Twitter VoiceOver Bug, Resolved: Cannot Activate Links via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

I am happy to report that as of the latest iOS Twitter app release, today,
the imbedded link-activation bug appears to have been resolved.

Mark

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Subject: Join Me in Reporting Twitter for iOS v7.14 VoiceOver Bug: Cannot
Activate Links via VoiceOver

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

As of the latest Twitter for iOS app, v7.14, released Saturday, December 16,
2017, VoiceOver users cannot activate URL, @, or # links located inside
tweets.

Please join me in reporting this issue.

The following is the review I posted in the App Store.  You are welcome to
use any or all of it in your feedback to Twitter:

[BEGIN REVIEW]
[SUBJECT]:
As of Latest App Update, The Visually Impaired Cannot Activate Links Inside
Tweets

[BODY]:
Hello,

As of the latest Twitter for iOS app, v7.14, released Saturday, December 16,
2017, the visually impaired, using VoiceOver, Apple's software screen
reading solution for the blind and low vision, cannot activate URL, @, or #
links located inside tweets.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
1.
Make certain that VoiceOver is enabled.

2.
Open a tweet containing a URL, @, or # link.

3.
Attempt to activate the link using standard VoiceOver gestures.

I am posting this review as a means of requesting that the Twitter
developers address this problem as soon as possible.

Thank you,
 [END REVIEW]

Here is my tweet on this issue:
[BEGIN TWEET]:
In #iOS @Twitter v7.14 app, links located inside tweets are no longer
accessible via #VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the
blind and #LowVision. Please fix. @Support.
[END TWEET]:

The following is the text of the feedback I submitted via Twitter's feedback
tool, which has a 500-character limit:
[BEGIN FEEDBACK]
In the latest release of Twitter for iOS (v7.14), VoiceOver users cannot
activate URL, @, or # links located inside tweets. Please fix as soon as
possible.
[END FEEDBACK]

Post your request in the App Store, as a review, send a tweet to both
@support and @Twitter, and Submit feedback to Twitter via the feedback form
located at:
https://support.twitter.com/forms/feature_report?feature=tweets.

Thank you and I'll see you on Twitter, @MarkMarcus.

Mark



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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[Donna Goodin]

Honestly, it’s the best display I abe ever owned. 
Donna 

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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be permanently 
>> closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company in Germany 
>> declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple related, but wanted 
>> to post it to the list in case there are users of the Vario ultra with their 
>> max or iPhones who are not on the bomb user list. I believe that there will 
>> be instructions forthcoming on how to have bomb products serviced in the 
>> future, but they have not been released yet. I will share with the list when 
>> it is available.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: BaumUSA closing today

[E.T.]

   Sad indeed for I have had the Vario Ultra on my wish list.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/16/2018 10:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be permanently 
closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company in Germany 
declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple related, but wanted to 
post it to the list in case there are users of the Vario ultra with their max 
or iPhones who are not on the bomb user list. I believe that there will be 
instructions forthcoming on how to have bomb products serviced in the future, 
but they have not been released yet. I will share with the list when it is 
available.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Most apps within the Adobe Creative Suite are not very accessible at all.  
Adobe uses a ton of custom elements that do not allow VO to hook on to.  I have 
been on their case about some things, but I don't have a big enough impact on 
them.  There may have been some improvements lately that I haven't learned of, 
but I fairly sure that you'll find them mostly inaccessible.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:52, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the accessibility of documents 
that are composed in illustrator? If they are not inherently accessible, is 
there a way to render them accessible?
Thanks,
Donna

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Getting HomePod to See iCloud Account After Rebooting Phone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

For various reasons, I reboot my iPhone throughout the day, when at home.
After doing this, I find that HomePod cannot access the Personal Request
feature saying that the HomePod needs to be on the same WiFi network at my
iPhone.  

The only solution that consistently works to resolve this is to tell Siri,
on my iPhone, is to turn off, then turn on Wifi.  This takes less than
2-seconds.  

Interesting.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Mark

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BaumUSA closing today

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I am writing with what I think is very sad news.Baum USA Will be permanently 
closing it’s doors this afternoon, due to the parent company in Germany 
declaring bankruptcy. I know this is not strictly Apple related, but wanted to 
post it to the list in case there are users of the Vario ultra with their max 
or iPhones who are not on the bomb user list. I believe that there will be 
instructions forthcoming on how to have bomb products serviced in the future, 
but they have not been released yet. I will share with the list when it is 
available.
Cheers,
Donna

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Accessibility of documents composed in illustrator?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the accessibility of documents 
that are composed in illustrator? If they are not inherently accessible, is 
there a way to render them accessible?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. The HomePod doesn’t support multiple timers. You cannot pair it to your 
phone either. You can do this with the Amazon Echo. This HomePod has been 
rushed into the market and it’s cost Apple around £250 to assemble and they 
can’t price it less than what it is right now. I’m happy with my Echos as they 
do all the things that the HomePod can’t. I admit Sound is excelent on the 
HomePod but that’s about it. Even Siri is dummer than the Siri you have on your 
phone and neither can compete with Alexa or Google voice assistant offerings. 

> On 16 Feb 2018, at 01:50, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the response. Just to clarify, I meant I want to be able to add 
> calendar events, or move them around. As to timers, I'd want named timers, 
> and to have multiple ones. For instance, I'd want HomePod to tell me the 
> cookies are done after 12 minutes, and that the laundry is done after 25.
> 
> Still, multiple accounts is the big one. I want HomePod to know who's 
> speaking, just as Siri already does on phones and iPads. It should then use 
> that person's account to respond to the request. Better still, use Apple 
> Watch authentication to make sure the person speaking is nearby, similar to 
> automatic login on macOS. After all, I could be on the wifi network, but 
> nowhere near the speaker, and HomePod will consider me present right now. 
> That seems like a poor design choice if one has roommates, ornery siblings, 
> and so on.
> 
> I'm sure HomePod sounds incredible, but as someone who likes music but wants 
> the smarts and audio books more than tunes, I can't get behind it as it is 
> right now.
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 22:27, David Chittenden > > wrote:
>> 
>> We decided to return our Home Pod for now. We are waiting for it to, 
>> hopefully, interface with our Sonos home theatre setup. That said, Home Pod 
>> definitely sets timers and alarms. It will say what the upcoming 
>> appointments on the calendar are. Unfortunately, this is currently only for 
>> one user.
>> 
>> Apple Music is not necessary. One can either place music in one's iCloud 
>> account, or purchase Apple Music Match and Home Pod will play said music. No 
>> matter how loud the volume is set, the mic is excellent. I never needed to 
>> raise my voice. And, the unit was able to understand me when I was in rooms 
>> near the lounge where we had the speaker.
>> 
>> The rumour is that Home Pod should interface with Sonos systems when AirPlay 
>> II comes out. As Apple will most likely not raise the price of Home Pod, we 
>> decided to wait until it meets our use case before purchasing.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 15 Feb 2018, at 12:33, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm waiting for, at the very least, the software to improve. I want more 
>>> smarts and less audio perfection, so I need Siri to at least handle 
>>> multiple users' accounts and do things like calendars and named timers.
>>> 
>>> As to the audio jack, I very much doubt it will ever happen. This speaker 
>>> is meant to blend into the background, and interact with wireless streaming 
>>> and speech input/output. In my mind, it will never include an audio jack. 
>>> But Apple could do anything, so don't take my word for it. 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 14, 2018, at 20:51, M. Taylor >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
 to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
 the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
 and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that 
 it
 does not have such a port.
 
 Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
 permit legacy-device attachments.  
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Donna Goodin]

Ha!  You sound like my husband. He swears that Siri hates him.

This is interesting. I always got very good results from Siri until switching 
to the iPhone X. Given that this phone supposedly has better hardware and a 
faster processor, it makes no sense that dictation results would worsen. But 
that has certainly been my experience.
Eileen, I’m somewhat relieved to hear that you are having a similar experience. 
At least that makes it sound like it’s the phone rather than something that I 
am doing.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 9:41 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because,
> I keep having to repeat messages at times.
> 
>> On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while there is a
>> real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using an iPhone X.
>> I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is incredibly
>> slow.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition
>>> is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than
>>> I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or
>>> not--has noticed the same thing?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[lenron brown]

I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because,
I keep having to repeat messages at times.

On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while there is a
> real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using an iPhone X.
> I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is incredibly
> slow.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>
>> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition
>> is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than
>> I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or
>> not--has noticed the same thing?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Mary Otten]

There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while there is a 
real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using an iPhone X. I’m 
using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is incredibly slow.
Mary


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> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition is 
> absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than I ever 
> used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or not--has noticed 
> the same thing?
> Cheers,
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
When i use dictation on my Ipad mini 4 i found the same behaviour.
I also find that siri has problems understanding what i want to be played on 
apple music.
/A

> 16 feb. 2018 kl. 13:25 skrev Donna Goodin :
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> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition is 
> absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than I ever 
> used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or not--has noticed 
> the same thing?
> Cheers,
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Donna,

Yes, I have found dictation greatly lacking lately. That is on my IPhone 10. 
Yesterday, I was dictating a message and after completing it (several 
attempts), Siri would not even come back with asking me if I wanted to send it. 
I had to find the send button on the screen and tap it.

In the past I have noticed when my phone starts acting quirky there’s a pending 
update I have needed to install. I checked that yesterday, but the phone is up 
to date.

Eileen


From: Donna Goodin 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition is 
absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than I ever 
used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or not--has noticed 
the same thing?
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[John JD Denning]

Are use dictation quite a bit. Every day. On my iPhone as I’m doing now, and 
out on my HomePod. And I have very, very little problem with it. Sometimes when 
Siri fumbles, I know it’s because I did.
I’ve not done any, editing on this message. It’s all straight dictation.


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> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: HomePod question

[Donna Goodin]

Excellent!  Thanks!
Cheers, 
Donna

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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> True stereo sound is coming in a software update soon.
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> Sent from my iPhone  
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> If memory serves, something I read said that the HomePod can't do stereo 
>> sound the way the Sonos speakers can.  Does anyone know if that is a 
>> hardware or software limitation?  I was thinking about picking up a HomePod 
>> this weekend, but eventually having the ability to have stereo sound would 
>> be important to me, so if it's a hardware issue, I'd probably be better off 
>> waiting.
>> Cheers,
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Re: HomePod question

[Daniel Miller]

True stereo sound is coming in a software update soon.

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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> If memory serves, something I read said that the HomePod can't do stereo 
> sound the way the Sonos speakers can.  Does anyone know if that is a hardware 
> or software limitation?  I was thinking about picking up a HomePod this 
> weekend, but eventually having the ability to have stereo sound would be 
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> waiting.
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HomePod question

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

If memory serves, something I read said that the HomePod can't do stereo sound 
the way the Sonos speakers can.  Does anyone know if that is a hardware or 
software limitation?  I was thinking about picking up a HomePod this weekend, 
but eventually having the ability to have stereo sound would be important to 
me, so if it's a hardware issue, I'd probably be better off waiting.
Cheers,
Donna

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Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Donna Goodin]

I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition is 
absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than I ever 
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Re: Mark on HomePod

[John JD Denning]

Well, congrats on the HomePod. If you’re in the Apple ecosystem as I am, I 
think you’ll really like it. In fact that’s probably why they’re urging people 
to take it home and give it a try, many more are liking it then not. Are used 
to use my AirPods for listening to podcasts while I was working, it was easier 
to pause and resume them then it was from my iPhone. But now I’ve been using 
the HomePod I love it. I don’t regret my purchase at all. I hope you enjoy.

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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, first let me thank you for your replies.  I really do enjoy a good
> technology discussion.
> 
> Second, today I went to my local Apple Store and purchased the space gray
> HomePod.  
> 
> What I found interesting is that, at this location, anyway, they were really
> pushing the device.  In fact, the sale rep stated several times, "Well, buy
> it and if you don't like it, just bring it back."  I was a bit surprised at
> this.  
> 
> It wasn't just him for as I browsed through the store, many of the sales
> reps were talking to people and expressing the same sentiment.  In fact,
> their somewhat pushy demeanor almost turned me off my purchase but, as I did
> not have a digital assistant, I decided to add HomePod to my Apple family of
> products.  
> 
> As for the ring residue problem?  I purchased a 3-dollar mouse pad to place
> under the unit.  
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> weekend.
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